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DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 12:14 PM
McNutt makes sense for a team like Indy or Redskins.

I agree. He makes sense for Miami too.

DTLB58
04-28-2012, 12:15 PM
Looks to me like McCluster is entrenched at RB behind Charles.

Yep. One plays RB, the other WR. We just added more speed. I don't know why this picks means they need to get rid of Dex.

malachi47000
04-28-2012, 12:15 PM
Do you think taking Vontaze Burfict in the 5th would be a good choice? Yes he has off the field problems and failed drug test (like Houston) however as a 5th round pick, I think it is worth the gamble. I doubt he makes it to the 7th round and would be surprised if he makes it to the 6th honestly. He has to much potential to pass up and contracts can be written to protect the chiefs organization if he pulls the same off field shit as he did in college. We took a gamble with Houston and it paid off, might be the same with Burfict and if the gamble works, talk about an amazing LB core!

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 12:15 PM
With their first 4 picks, the Steelers have taken 3 players I had going to us, just not in the same order. I had us taking DeCastro, then Ta'amu, then Spence. There's a reason why the Steelers contend for championships almost every year while we haven't won a playoff game in almost 20 years. . .

Ben Roethlisberger?

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 12:15 PM
With their first 4 picks, the Steelers have taken 3 players I had going to us, just not in the same order. I had us taking DeCastro, then Ta'amu, then Spence. There's a reason why the Steelers contend for championships almost every year while we haven't won a playoff game in almost 20 years. . .

yeah, QB

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 12:15 PM
Do you think taking Vontaze Burfict in the 5th would be a good choice? Yes he has off the field problems and failed drug test (like Houston) however as a 5th round pick, I think it is worth the gamble. I doubt he makes it to the 7th round and would be surprised if he makes it to the 6th honestly. He has to much potential to pass up and contracts can be written to protect the chiefs organization if he pulls the same off field shit as he did in college. We took a gamble with Houston and it paid off, might be the same with Burfict and if the gamble works, talk about an amazing LB core!

No.

ChiefsNow
04-28-2012, 12:16 PM
Since 2007, Devon Wylie has touched the ball only 58 times. It resulted in almost 1,000 yards, 7 td's, and a lot of excitement. Wylie missed the 2010 season due to a surgically repaired navicular fracture in his left foot. In 2011, he will return to the field potentially faster than the 4.25 forty that he ran in 2009


<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/faqfXBtF50I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I like him.

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 12:16 PM
Nice pick by Cleveland in James-Michael Johnson. He would have fit here.

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 12:16 PM
Do you think taking Vontaze Burfict in the 5th would be a good choice? Yes he has off the field problems and failed drug test (like Houston) however as a 5th round pick, I think it is worth the gamble. I doubt he makes it to the 7th round and would be surprised if he makes it to the 6th honestly. He has to much potential to pass up and contracts can be written to protect the chiefs organization if he pulls the same off field shit as he did in college. We took a gamble with Houston and it paid off, might be the same with Burfict and if the gamble works, talk about an amazing LB core!

he's terrible and will be lucky to be drafted

i'd use a 7th on him

Count Alex's Losses
04-28-2012, 12:17 PM
Yep. One plays RB, the other WR. We just added more speed. I don't know why this picks means they need to get rid of Dex.

Because he is a shitty RB who now has no other value to the team.

Frosty
04-28-2012, 12:17 PM
Let me clarify.

A 5' nothing WR is not a legitimate deep threat with Matt Cassel as his QB.

I woke up in a good mood today because it occurred to me that this draft has RAC's fingerprints all over it, which leads me to believe that Pioli might be deferring to him more. Romeo had no problem yanking Charlie Frye after he sucked in the first game and putting DA in in Cleveland. It gives me hope that the best QB on the roster might actually play most of the season (I realize that better than bad doesn't equal good).

I may be totally off base here but I'm rolling with until proven otherwise. :D

ISUJeff
04-28-2012, 12:17 PM
No.

Agree, No.

Burfict's issues go much deeper than just some smoking.

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 12:18 PM
Agree, No.

Burfict's issues go much deeper than just some smoking.

His issues are mostly football (on-field & practice) related. Complete opposite to players who have off-field issues.

DTLB58
04-28-2012, 12:19 PM
http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center/videos/Wylie-sits-down-with-Bucky-Brooks-at-the-Combine/792bd0b7-8f9e-470f-bbe4-e6ef0775e338

Sit down interview with Wylie @ the combine.

Dylan
04-28-2012, 12:19 PM
Ben Roethlisberger?

that's a good point.

JohnnyHammersticks
04-28-2012, 12:20 PM
Ben Roethlisberger?

Yes. Steeler draft pick Ben Roethlisberger helps too.

ISUJeff
04-28-2012, 12:21 PM
His issues are mostly football (on-field & practice) related. Complete opposite to players who have off-field issues.

His lack of effort and blaming coaches for his drop in production would scare me, and hopefully KC coaches

Dylan
04-28-2012, 12:22 PM
great respect for B.Dawk -

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 12:22 PM
damn

boykin to eagles

Frosty
04-28-2012, 12:23 PM
I've liked the Eagles' draft

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 12:23 PM
Saints take Nick Toon. I like this pick. Now they have another big guy to pair with Colston and replacing Meachem to pair with Henderson and Sproles.

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 12:24 PM
FUCK FUCK YOU ANDY REID

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 12:24 PM
I like the Eagles draft a lot.

Dylan
04-28-2012, 12:24 PM
I've liked the Eagles' draft

so do I - but then again, everything looks good on paper

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 12:25 PM
so do I - but then again, everything looks good on paper

Not everything. Look at Seattle. ;)

RUSH
04-28-2012, 12:25 PM
I love the eagles draft. Boykin should play right away at nickel CB.

chiefzilla1501
04-28-2012, 12:26 PM
I woke up in a good mood today because it occurred to me that this draft has RAC's fingerprints all over it, which leads me to believe that Pioli might be deferring to him more. Romeo had no problem yanking Charlie Frye after he sucked in the first game and putting DA in in Cleveland. It gives me hope that the best QB on the roster might actually play most of the season (I realize that better than bad doesn't equal good).

I may be totally off base here but I'm rolling with until proven otherwise. :D

I think we are seeing that Pioli is letting Romeo have some say in his team, whereas he was an arrogant prick with Haley. There are definitely hints that the Chiefs are placing a greater priority on the QB position and I hope that's true. Then again, they talked about going after Peyton, there were talks about going after Stanton, and they hinted at looking heavily into Cousins. They didn't do any of those things, so who the fuck knows.

It's a sad reality that barring some kind of miracle, Cassel is probably going to start every game this season. I can only hope for a wild card that somebody in KC is super-impressed with Stanzi or that Daboll's history with Brady Quinn puts him at starter. And even those options don't make me want to do cartwheels.

Dylan
04-28-2012, 12:26 PM
Not everything. Look at Seattle. ;)

:D

Reaper16
04-28-2012, 12:26 PM
Buffalo taking Brooks was a shrewd pick.

DTLB58
04-28-2012, 12:31 PM
Because he is a shitty RB who now has no other value to the team.

He is good enough for 3rd string behind Charles and Hillis (as long as they don't draft someone else today). He gives a different dimension, like Wylie at WR compared to what we already have there.

I wouldn't just cut him, he has value.

Dylan
04-28-2012, 12:31 PM
If the Giants don't select offensive linemen - I'll scream

I can't bear to watch another Giants / 49ers game this season - shoot me

Frosty
04-28-2012, 12:32 PM
I think we are seeing that Pioli is letting Romeo have some say in his team, whereas he was an arrogant prick with Haley.

I get the impression that Pioli looks up to Crennel. Crennel was a head coach before and has a bunch of rings as a coordinator. Pioli probably felt that he had to reign in Haley and protect Haley from himself where he doesn't have to do that with Romeo.

rico
04-28-2012, 12:33 PM
I'd love it if the Chiefs picked up Antonio Allen here. I think eventually, they will end up with either Cyrus Gray or Shaun Prater in one of the upcoming rounds..

Dylan
04-28-2012, 12:33 PM
oh please, Mike Pope can make a good TE out of any UDFA -- He's been doing that since Bavaro

Why a TE?

The Giants need to protect Eli

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 12:34 PM
If the Giants don't select offensive linemen - I'll scream

I can't bear to watch another Giants / 49ers game this season - shoot me

They should look at Zebrie Sanders.

chiefs1111
04-28-2012, 12:34 PM
wow there goes another FB

Longrun Chief
04-28-2012, 12:35 PM
The Raiders are on the clock. Another glimpse into Reggie McKenzie's draft strategy.

DTLB58
04-28-2012, 12:35 PM
I get the impression that Pioli looks up to Crennel. Crennel was a head coach before and has a bunch of rings as a coordinator. Pioli probably felt that he had to reign in Haley and protect Haley from himself where he doesn't have to do that with Romeo.

Romeo did say before the draft he wanted fast WR's.

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 12:35 PM
I'd love it if the Chiefs picked up Antonio Allen here. I think eventually, they will end up with either Cyrus Gray or Shaun Prater in one of the upcoming rounds..

I'm fine with Allen or Iloka.

DTLB58
04-28-2012, 12:35 PM
wow there goes another FB

Good, take them all, we don't need to blow another pick on one again this year!

rico
04-28-2012, 12:37 PM
I'm fine with Allen or Iloka.

God, I keep forgetting that Iloka is still on the board. I wouldn't mind having him either.

Dylan
04-28-2012, 12:38 PM
They should look at Zebrie Sanders.

offensive linemen is not in their head. same shit, different toilet

I'm sure they will select a defensive player next.

chop
04-28-2012, 12:40 PM
He doesn't add any dimension we don't already have, IMO. Breaston does better what Wright would do.

If he is a Welker type of WR, he will be doing a lot of shorter routes in hopes he breaks one. Quoted wrong comment.

Frosty
04-28-2012, 12:42 PM
NFLN ignoring the draft to cover the RG3 welcoming party in Washington. :spock:

Frosty
04-28-2012, 12:43 PM
Dylan gets her wish

Dylan
04-28-2012, 12:43 PM
NFLN ignoring the draft to cover the RG3 welcoming party in Washington. :spock:

On the Giants selection, no less! F word

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 12:43 PM
Giants take your OL. Mosley from Auburn.

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 12:43 PM
giants take mosley

good pick

Dylan
04-28-2012, 12:45 PM
OMG an offensive linemen?

Watch, they'll sit him for two years - and use all their broke dicks

thanks, guys

DTLB58
04-28-2012, 12:47 PM
Posted by Mike Florio on April 28, 2012, 1:28 PM EDT

Four years ago, the Dolphins opted for a left tackle over a franchise quarterback, taking Jake Long instead of Matt Ryan with the first pick in the draft. With the Dolphins using a first-round pick in 2012 on the player they hope will become the team’s next franchise quarterback, the Dolphins also may have acquired their next cornerstone left tackle.

Mike Berardino of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel believes that the arrival of Jonathan Martin via round two could eventually mean the end of the line for Long.

Martin played sparingly at right tackle during his college career, and if the Dolphins decide to move on from Long, Martin could take over on the left side.

As Berardino explains it, with the Dolphins admittedly transforming their approach, Long may not fit in the new-look offense. “We’re not going to be as much a power scheme as we’ve been in the past,” G.M. Jeff Ireland said when discussing the decision to take Martin. “So his athletic ability and . . . quickness and ability to play in space transfers to this scheme probably a lot better than any other scheme.”

Long is due to receive a base salary $11.2 million in 2012. Long recently proclaimed that he’s the healthiest he has been in a long time.

milkman
04-28-2012, 12:48 PM
I turned on to watch the draft, but what I get now is analysis of every east coast team drafts.

So excited.

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 12:49 PM
Posted by Mike Florio on April 28, 2012, 1:28 PM EDT

Four years ago, the Dolphins opted for a left tackle over a franchise quarterback, taking Jake Long instead of Matt Ryan with the first pick in the draft. With the Dolphins using a first-round pick in 2012 on the player they hope will become the team’s next franchise quarterback, the Dolphins also may have acquired their next cornerstone left tackle.

Mike Berardino of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel believes that the arrival of Jonathan Martin via round two could eventually mean the end of the line for Long.

Martin played sparingly at right tackle during his college career, and if the Dolphins decide to move on from Long, Martin could take over on the left side.

As Berardino explains it, with the Dolphins admittedly transforming their approach, Long may not fit in the new-look offense. “We’re not going to be as much a power scheme as we’ve been in the past,” G.M. Jeff Ireland said when discussing the decision to take Martin. “So his athletic ability and . . . quickness and ability to play in space transfers to this scheme probably a lot better than any other scheme.”

Long is due to receive a base salary $11.2 million in 2012. Long recently proclaimed that he’s the healthiest he has been in a long time.

Thanks. As I said at the time of the pick:

Wow. Didn't see the Fins taking Martin.

I don't really understand that pick unless they move him to OG. He's not RT.

So this at least rationalizes the selection.

Dicky McElephant
04-28-2012, 12:51 PM
I could see the Vikings or Cowboys taking Iloka.

milkman
04-28-2012, 12:51 PM
Posted by Mike Florio on April 28, 2012, 1:28 PM EDT

Four years ago, the Dolphins opted for a left tackle over a franchise quarterback, taking Jake Long instead of Matt Ryan with the first pick in the draft. With the Dolphins using a first-round pick in 2012 on the player they hope will become the team’s next franchise quarterback, the Dolphins also may have acquired their next cornerstone left tackle.

Mike Berardino of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel believes that the arrival of Jonathan Martin via round two could eventually mean the end of the line for Long.

Martin played sparingly at right tackle during his college career, and if the Dolphins decide to move on from Long, Martin could take over on the left side.

As Berardino explains it, with the Dolphins admittedly transforming their approach, Long may not fit in the new-look offense. “We’re not going to be as much a power scheme as we’ve been in the past,” G.M. Jeff Ireland said when discussing the decision to take Martin. “So his athletic ability and . . . quickness and ability to play in space transfers to this scheme probably a lot better than any other scheme.”

Long is due to receive a base salary $11.2 million in 2012. Long recently proclaimed that he’s the healthiest he has been in a long time.

This essentially says that they don't believe that Jake Long has the athletic abaility to be an outstanding pass blocker in a more pass oriented offense.

Imagine that.

Reaper16
04-28-2012, 12:52 PM
This essentially says that they don't believe that Jake Long has the athletic abaility to be an outstanding pass blocker in a more pass oriented offense.

Imagine that.

*sound of AustinChief weeping*

chop
04-28-2012, 12:52 PM
Lilja recently stated that Cassel is a good QB and that the Chiefs needed to get better players around him. Maybe he speaks for more people in the organization and that is why the Chiefs are drafting the way they are. Unfortunately for him, he is one of the guys getting replaced.

Bewbies
04-28-2012, 12:53 PM
This essentially says that they don't believe that Jake Long has the athletic abaility to be an outstanding pass blocker in a more pass oriented offense.

Imagine that.

I could be wrong, but isn't that exactly what we read around here before he was drafted? LMAO

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 12:54 PM
I could see the Vikings or Cowboys taking Iloka.

Vikes already took Harrison Smith.

ChiefsCountry
04-28-2012, 12:54 PM
I could be wrong, but isn't that exactly what we read around here before he was drafted? LMAO

Since you were around here in 2008?

milkman
04-28-2012, 12:55 PM
I could be wrong, but isn't that exactly what we read around here before he was drafted? LMAO

That is exactly what I, and many others, said, yes.

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 12:55 PM
Vikes loading up on Arky WRs!

chiefs1111
04-28-2012, 12:56 PM
Vikes take another wr from Arkansas

chop
04-28-2012, 12:57 PM
That Droid Razr commercial is really getting on my nerves.

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 12:58 PM
let's get to this 5th round pick so i can get out of here

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 12:58 PM
Dear ESPN,

I'd really like to see that manly woman named Suzy interview the Eagles fat walrus coach. Can you please arrange that?

Thanx,
DaKCMan AP

Frosty
04-28-2012, 12:59 PM
That is exactly what I, and many others, said, yes.

Can you imagine the shakeup that would have happened had the Mamee Doffins taken Ryan instead? Atlanta probably would have taken Dorsey. I wonder who the Chiefs would have gotten? Ellis? Long? Gholston?

chop
04-28-2012, 12:59 PM
let's get to this 5th round pick so i can get out of here

What player is it going to take to get you you leave happy?

Frosty
04-28-2012, 12:59 PM
That Droid Razr commercial is really getting on my nerves.

Thank God for the mute button.

Reaper16
04-28-2012, 12:59 PM
Colts made one Hell of a pick there in Josh Chapman. The Colts get their anchor NT for their new 3-4 in the first offseason of transition to that alignment. It took the Chiefs three seasons.

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 01:00 PM
Indy could use a RB.

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 01:00 PM
Chapman is a nice pick for them.

Bewbies
04-28-2012, 01:00 PM
Since you were around here in 2008?

I've said before I have been here long before I appeared as Bewbies.

Bewbies
04-28-2012, 01:01 PM
Indy takes the NT I wanted with our 3 or 4. They got him in the 5th. Sadface.

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 01:01 PM
colts take chapman....my sweetheart

Frosty
04-28-2012, 01:02 PM
Andy Reid on one network and RG3 press conference on the other.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzz

chiefs1111
04-28-2012, 01:02 PM
Malik Jackson to Denver

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 01:02 PM
What player is it going to take to get you you leave happy?

doesn't really matter at this point, this draft is a b movie

but a safety or running back would be my choice

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 01:03 PM
Lions trade up.

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 01:03 PM
i'll bet a dollar chapman has a longer career than poe

Frosty
04-28-2012, 01:04 PM
I wanted Polk but the thing about his knee scares me.

Dylan
04-28-2012, 01:04 PM
Reid says, "It all starts with me….." same excuse for 13 years

Can the Super Bowl end in a tie? / Eagles

Three runs - success. Two passes - fail / Eagles

Reaper16
04-28-2012, 01:04 PM
i'll bet a dollar chapman has a longer career than poe

Chapman is way, way better at football.

Coogs
04-28-2012, 01:05 PM
Chapman is way, way better at football.

Which is why he is a 5th rounder and Poe went at #11.

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 01:06 PM
Chapman is way, way better at football.

yup, and plays with more heart too

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 01:06 PM
Which is why he is a 5th rounder and Poe went at #11.

poe was drafted on what he did in college?

really?

Chocolate Hog
04-28-2012, 01:07 PM
What's everyone think of Malik Jackson? Guy looks like an athletic beast.

Frosty
04-28-2012, 01:07 PM
A lot of talent went in the fourth. A couple of trades down might have netted some really good players.

Chocolate Hog
04-28-2012, 01:07 PM
poe was drafted on what he did in college?

really?

He only did bad cuz he played 60 downs a game against spread offenses.

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 01:08 PM
What's everyone think of Malik Jackson? Guy looks like an athletic beast.

He's a typical 5th round pick. He'll either be a run-stop DE or maybe play inside. A rotational guy. He makes more sense at DE in a 3-4, though, so kind of strange for Denver. He'll need to add weight to play DT and he's not a speed rusher off the edge.

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 01:09 PM
He only did bad cuz he played 60 downs a game against spread offenses.

chapman was a stud in the SEC with a torn ACL

poe was a nobody in the beer league

Dicky McElephant
04-28-2012, 01:09 PM
The Minnesota Fighting Irish

DA_T_84
04-28-2012, 01:09 PM
Do we go Chris Polk here?

Is there a safety or ILB prospect better than that?

Coogs
04-28-2012, 01:09 PM
poe was drafted on what he did in college?

really?

I was on the Chapman bandwagon. One of the very first ones here at the Planet. But bottome line is Poe went at #11... Chapman in the 5th. 32 teams in the NFL passed on Chapman 4+ times.

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 01:09 PM
LMAO

i'm getting angry all over again...

Reaper16
04-28-2012, 01:10 PM
Which is why he is a 5th rounder and Poe went at #11.

Go watch Alabama games from last year. Chapman dominated at the nose... and he did it while playing with a torn ACL for nearly the entire season. He's a beast.

Coogs
04-28-2012, 01:11 PM
Go watch Alabama games from last year. Chapman dominated at the nose... and he did it while playing with a torn ACL for nearly the entire season. He's a beast.

I was one of the first on his bandwagon. You are not telling me anything I didn't know.

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 01:11 PM
Do we go Chris Polk here?


Hope not.

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 01:11 PM
I was on the Chapman bandwagon. One of the very first ones here at the Planet. But bottome line is Poe went at #11... Chapman in the 5th. 32 teams in the NFL passed on Chapman 4+ times.

which has nothing to do with poe being a better football player....

one team drafted him based solely on his physical dimensions

no one can make the argument poe is a better player...that was settled by their performance in college

poe might have a better nfl career...but that has nothing to do with who is a better player right now

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 01:12 PM
5 picks and i am free of this abortion

blazzin311
04-28-2012, 01:13 PM
which has nothing to do with poe being a better football player....

one team drafted him based solely on his physical dimensions

no one can make the argument poe is a better player...that was settled by their performance in college

poe might have a better nfl career...but that has nothing to do with who is a better player right now

This pretty much sums it up as far as I'm concerned. :thumb:

jd1020
04-28-2012, 01:14 PM
Do we go Chris Polk here?

Is there a safety or ILB prospect better than that?

Alfonzo Dennard or Iloka, please.

bandwagonjumper
04-28-2012, 01:15 PM
Honestly, the Vikings have really a hard on for Notre Dame. The fifth Notre Dame player. I might have to jump on the Viking bandwagon.

Frosty
04-28-2012, 01:15 PM
All Giants, all of the time

ChiefsNow
04-28-2012, 01:15 PM
I like all of our picks so far. So there

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 01:16 PM
All Giants, all of the time

All NFC East all the time. They've interviewed Andy Reid, covered RGIII's arrival in Wash, and now have Reese on. You know they're going to talk Cowboys sooner or later.

Coogs
04-28-2012, 01:16 PM
I like all of our picks so far. So there

Me too! All four of them.

tk13
04-28-2012, 01:17 PM
The Giants have people being interviewed on both ESPN and NFLN at the moment. You can't escape.

blazzin311
04-28-2012, 01:17 PM
For KCs next pick I think I'd prefer Jonathan Massaquoi or perhaps George Iloka. Either one could fill a need the way I see it.

keg in kc
04-28-2012, 01:17 PM
which has nothing to do with poe being a better football player....

one team drafted him based solely on his physical dimensions

no one can make the argument poe is a better player...that was settled by their performance in college

poe might have a better nfl career...but that has nothing to do with who is a better player right nowThat raises the question of what you draft for, now or for the career. I'd say both, leaning (maybe heavily) towards career.

The faster Poe develops, the better, though.

Dylan
04-28-2012, 01:17 PM
on NFLN: Jerry Reese gives us a lot of insight - not!

on the Jayron Hosley selection: Good thing there are no drugs, hookers, nightclubs, etc in this city to temp him.

blazzin311
04-28-2012, 01:19 PM
Wouldn't mind Chris Polk or Cyrus Gray either I suppose.

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 01:19 PM
Wouldn't mind Chris Polk or Cyrus Gray either I suppose.

No to both.

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 01:20 PM
Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter
Green Bay and New England ranked 32nd and 31st in NFL in D last season. So far, Packers and Pats have drafted nine players - all on defense.

Molitoth
04-28-2012, 01:21 PM
Alphonso Dennard or Antonio allen

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 01:21 PM
Cool, the NFL is now 3 picks behind.

cabletech94
04-28-2012, 01:22 PM
so, what qb are we gonna take now?

blazzin311
04-28-2012, 01:22 PM
No to both.

My preferred first choices for round 5 are Massaquoi or Iloka. I just wouldn't be upset with either Polk or Gray is what I'm saying.

Frosty
04-28-2012, 01:22 PM
Darn - I would have liked Norman

Direckshun
04-28-2012, 01:22 PM
Cool, the NFL is now 3 picks behind.

:facepalm:

ChiefsNow
04-28-2012, 01:23 PM
Ha Ha Mayock fucking with Eison about him getting manicured. LOL

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 01:23 PM
George Iloka
Antonio Allen
Vick Ballard
Ronnell Lewis
Cam Johnson

Dicky McElephant
04-28-2012, 01:23 PM
Nice pick by the Bills. All new tackles for them.

cabletech94
04-28-2012, 01:23 PM
George Iloka
Antonio Allen
Vick Ballard
Ronnell Lewis
Cam Johnson

NONE OF THESE ARE QUARTERBACKS!!!!!!!

blazzin311
04-28-2012, 01:24 PM
so, what qb are we gonna take now?

About the only QBs I'd look at the rest of the draft might be Lindley, Harnish or Moore.

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 01:24 PM
come on miami

Dicky McElephant
04-28-2012, 01:24 PM
Come on Iloka.

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 01:24 PM
Zebrie Sanders is a nice pick for Buffalo.

rico
04-28-2012, 01:24 PM
Please be Allen or Iloka (considering Miami doesn't take them).

tk13
04-28-2012, 01:24 PM
Somebody trades in front of us again.

Strongside
04-28-2012, 01:24 PM
haha! Someone trades in front of us again!

Urc Burry
04-28-2012, 01:24 PM
We fucking got jumped again

Frosty
04-28-2012, 01:24 PM
Of course - KC getting sniped again :facepalm:

cabletech94
04-28-2012, 01:24 PM
titans jump in front of us.

Chocolate Hog
04-28-2012, 01:24 PM
George Iloka
Antonio Allen
Vick Ballard
Ronnell Lewis
Cam Johnson

Funny these are the guys you were saying in the 3rd round.

milkman
04-28-2012, 01:24 PM
Somebody jumped us again.

Direckshun
04-28-2012, 01:24 PM
George Iloka
Antonio Allen
Vick Ballard
Ronnell Lewis
Cam Johnson

Ronnell Lewis has bee drafted.

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 01:24 PM
Chiefs get jumped for 3rd time in the draft.

ChiefsNow
04-28-2012, 01:24 PM
Eison said " I'm holding a phone on television, I can't look like a caveman" Mayock says , so you want to look like a woman? LOL

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 01:25 PM
WE GOT JUMPED AGAIN

WTF?????????

Coogs
04-28-2012, 01:25 PM
so, what qb are we gonna take now?

Free Agent from Washburn. Dane Simoneau

DA_T_84
04-28-2012, 01:25 PM
Got jumped again!

Molitoth
04-28-2012, 01:25 PM
Jumped by the titans eh

Bewbies
04-28-2012, 01:25 PM
Pioli must have sent a memo out of our picks for each round.

Frosty
04-28-2012, 01:25 PM
Bet Tenn picks a S

DTLB58
04-28-2012, 01:25 PM
Is that 3 times now someone has traded right in front of us?

Direckshun
04-28-2012, 01:25 PM
Somebody jumped us again.

Are you shitting me?

I'm away from a TV. Who jumped us?

Good Christ.

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 01:25 PM
Funny these are the guys you were saying in the 3rd round.

And?

jd1020
04-28-2012, 01:25 PM
Me thinks Crennel has a big mouth he needs to fucking shut.

cabletech94
04-28-2012, 01:25 PM
Bet Tenn picks a S

probably THIS

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 01:25 PM
seriously...people obviously know our board...this is nuts

rico
04-28-2012, 01:25 PM
JUMPED! UGH!!!

Direckshun
04-28-2012, 01:25 PM
Oh Jesus.

We have a leaky ship this year. So crazy.

Dicky McElephant
04-28-2012, 01:26 PM
They'll take Iloka.....watch.

blazzin311
04-28-2012, 01:26 PM
Ronnell Lewis has bee drafted.

Perhaps he meant Travis Lewis? :spock:

Direckshun
04-28-2012, 01:26 PM
I love how people are like "so great that we're actually saying things to the media now."

Jumped three times in five rounds. You can't make this shit up.

It's Herm/Carl 2.0.

Frosty
04-28-2012, 01:26 PM
Hmmm...

rico
04-28-2012, 01:26 PM
They will pick Antonio Allen.

Urc Burry
04-28-2012, 01:26 PM
Ok i'm not complaining

JohnnyHammersticks
04-28-2012, 01:26 PM
If we don't pick up Iloka or Allen with this next pick then I don't know what in the hell Pioli could possibly be thinking.

Strongside
04-28-2012, 01:26 PM
Hmmm...

jd1020
04-28-2012, 01:27 PM
If we don't pick up Iloka or Allen with this next pick then I don't know what in the hell Pioli could possibly be thinking.

I'd take Alfonzo Dennard over both of them.

1st round grade in the 5th... At CB.

cabletech94
04-28-2012, 01:27 PM
whew

Frosty
04-28-2012, 01:27 PM
Was Thompson someone the Chiefs were looking at?

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 01:27 PM
Taylor Thompson. No big.

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 01:27 PM
titans take....a TE


whew....LMAO

maybe they saved us

Strongside
04-28-2012, 01:27 PM
I swear since I can remember they base their commercial breaks for the drafts on where KC is picking.

rico
04-28-2012, 01:27 PM
Taylor Thompson......mmmmmkay.....

Papi
04-28-2012, 01:28 PM
I've seen Markelle Martin ranked higher than Iloka. Forgive my ignorance but why do people here seem to like Iloka more?

Frosty
04-28-2012, 01:28 PM
And the NFLN goes to commercial

Chocolate Hog
04-28-2012, 01:28 PM
I love how people are like "so great that we're actually saying things to the media now."

Jumped three times in five rounds. You can't make this shit up.

It's Herm/Carl 2.0.

What did they say that would tip other teams off? Some of our needs for depth are obvious ones.

cabletech94
04-28-2012, 01:28 PM
here we go.

Dicky McElephant
04-28-2012, 01:29 PM
Can we draft someone I've heard of now?

Molitoth
04-28-2012, 01:29 PM
Pick got in quick

KCUnited
04-28-2012, 01:29 PM
And the NFLN goes to commercial

Flip over to ESPN for Polian's gold grill.

Bewbies
04-28-2012, 01:29 PM
We wouldn't have taken that TE, we don't wait for TE's to fall to us.

cabletech94
04-28-2012, 01:29 PM
commercial

Urc Burry
04-28-2012, 01:29 PM
What did they say that would tip other teams off? Some of our needs for depth are obvious ones.

It's been going around for a while we loved Brandon Taylor.. Brought him in for a private workout. Then La Canfora says we love Michael Floyd and the Bowe rumors fly around and we get jumped in the second for the top receiver available

Frosty
04-28-2012, 01:29 PM
Flip over to ESPN for Polian's gold grill.

I'm there but they are going to commercial too

Papi
04-28-2012, 01:29 PM
Got a S

tk13
04-28-2012, 01:29 PM
There's your safety.

DA_T_84
04-28-2012, 01:29 PM
Safety!

cabletech94
04-28-2012, 01:29 PM
safety!

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 01:29 PM
chiefs take a safety!

menzie from bama

Tytanium
04-28-2012, 01:29 PM
Dequan Menzie S Bama

MIAdragon
04-28-2012, 01:29 PM
Menzie, De'Quan

rico
04-28-2012, 01:29 PM
WHAT?!?!?! OVER ALLEN AND ILOKA?! THIS IS MIND BOGGLING?!

jd1020
04-28-2012, 01:30 PM
Well.. We got a S but who the fuck...

Molitoth
04-28-2012, 01:30 PM
At least he came from a good school??????

Bewbies
04-28-2012, 01:30 PM
Ok, learn me about Menzie...

Dicky McElephant
04-28-2012, 01:30 PM
ESPN has him listed as a CB.

Direckshun
04-28-2012, 01:30 PM
I hate hate hate this pick.

I really do not like Menzie at all.

But I go waaay against the grain on that. He will be a fairly popular pick.

But I am not a fan.

HemiEd
04-28-2012, 01:30 PM
Theres the safety

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 01:30 PM
I can live with that.

DeQuan Menzie, Alabama

Looks like they're moving him to safety.

Hoover
04-28-2012, 01:30 PM
We probably watched a shit ton of tape on him since we looked at Barron

MIAdragon
04-28-2012, 01:30 PM
STRENGTHS Menzie is a very instinctual corner who relies on his ability to anticipate the throw and break on the ball to disrupt passes. He is a strong player when working in tight space and can use his agility and foot quickness to stay on a receiver's hip. He is a strong player in zone and understands when to take chances and jump routes. He scans the entire field and helps when needed in these schemes. He never shies away from contact and is a productive tackler working from the outside-in.

WEAKNESSES Menzie is a solid all-around prospect who has fluid hips and athletic ability, which he relies on too heavily at times. He takes chances in man coverage that could hurt him at the next level.

Molitoth
04-28-2012, 01:30 PM
Ok, learn me about Menzie...

Barron took the spotlight

chiefs1111
04-28-2012, 01:30 PM
well there ya go a safety

ChiefsNow
04-28-2012, 01:31 PM
There, a safety.

Direckshun
04-28-2012, 01:31 PM
He'll play safety here -- he is not fast enough to play corner. But he's the immediate front runner to challenge Daniels for dime back responsibilities.

He's not very fast, and I feel like he was one of the players feeding off the abilities of the others in that Bama defense.

MIAdragon
04-28-2012, 01:31 PM
Menzie has some hitches in his athletic ability that will make for a tough transition to the NFL. He is consistently around the ball, however, and making splash plays for the decorated Crimson Tide defense. He is the type of player whose whole is greater than the sum of its parts in terms of the type of player he will be on Sundays. He is a playmaker and savvy cover man who has second-round value.

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 01:32 PM
reports list him as a CB

Positives: A versatile and flexible athlete with good foot quickness. Started 20 games the last two years, lining up inside and outside. Tough and scrappy with the forceful nature to be physical at all levels of the field. Has good bulk on his frame to be aggressive in run support. Strong hands to make plays on the ball, effective blitzer who shows well-coached technique and awareness. Negatives: Has below-average measureables for the position and lacks ideal length. Has only average long speed and lacks the natural change-of-direction skills and vertical ability to play blanket man coverage. Lacks natural explosion to make up for false steps. Struggles to break down in space and can be a liability against the run at the ...

Dylan
04-28-2012, 01:32 PM
Can't believe the Saints put out a bounty on Cam -- How sad!

The Giants signed Saints DT Shaun Rogers for depth two days ago.

I'm hoping that Rogers wasn't involved in all that bounty mess.

chiefs1111
04-28-2012, 01:32 PM
Tank Carder to Bills

Von Dumbass
04-28-2012, 01:32 PM
#Chiefs grab my top Slot CB, DeQuan Menzie. Love his physical play on the inside. Good short-area foot quickness. Avg. speed.

https://twitter.com/#!/nfldraftscout/status/196305685330403328

Chocolate Hog
04-28-2012, 01:32 PM
Meh

Strongside
04-28-2012, 01:32 PM
If his biggest weakness is that he takes chances in man coverage...I like the pick.

Frosty
04-28-2012, 01:32 PM
STRENGTHS Menzie is a very instinctual corner who relies on his ability to anticipate the throw and break on the ball to disrupt passes. He is a strong player when working in tight space and can use his agility and foot quickness to stay on a receiver's hip. He is a strong player in zone and understands when to take chances and jump routes. He scans the entire field and helps when needed in these schemes. He never shies away from contact and is a productive tackler working from the outside-in.

WEAKNESSES Menzie is a solid all-around prospect who has fluid hips and athletic ability, which he relies on too heavily at times. He takes chances in man coverage that could hurt him at the next level.

Color me intrigued

Reaper16
04-28-2012, 01:32 PM
I guess the Chiefs are converting Menzie to saftey? Huh.

Count Alex's Losses
04-28-2012, 01:33 PM
Sabby, GTFO

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 01:33 PM
He'll play safety here -- he is not fast enough to play corner. But he's the immediate front runner to challenge Daniels for dime back responsibilities.

He's not very fast, and I feel like he was one of the players feeding off the abilities of the others in that Bama defense.

He improved his 40 time to the 4.5's at pro day.

He played CB at Bama but will play safety here. Actually a really good fit, IMO, since we utilize 3 safeties and he can play both man & zone and has good cover skills.

ChiefsCountry
04-28-2012, 01:33 PM
Damn good pick by the Chiefs. Menzie played corner but projects as a safety in the NFL. We play 3 safeties alot and one is normally a coverage guy. Here you go.

Worthless n00b
04-28-2012, 01:33 PM
My God, I miss one season and the whole thing goes tits-up. Shame on me.

-ROR :D

Lightrise
04-28-2012, 01:33 PM
Kellen Moore is sitting around with nothing to do....

I agree take Moore. This draft has been a disaster. I thought we should have taken Weeden #1, our pick @2 was perfect, #3 should have been that Ta'amu or whatever guy and in the 4th the kid that blocked 9 punts in college.

milkman
04-28-2012, 01:33 PM
He'll play safety here -- he is not fast enough to play corner. But he's the immediate front runner to challenge Daniels for dime back responsibilities.

He's not very fast, and I feel like he was one of the players feeding off the abilities of the others in that Bama defense.

As a safety, he sounds like he could be a poor man's Brandon Taylor.

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 01:34 PM
Menzie has some hitches in his athletic ability that will make for a tough transition to the NFL. He is consistently around the ball, however, and making splash plays for the decorated Crimson Tide defense. He is the type of player whose whole is greater than the sum of its parts in terms of the type of player he will be on Sundays. He is a playmaker and savvy cover man who has second-round value.

sounds a lot like lewis

Frosty
04-28-2012, 01:34 PM
McGraw, GTFO

FYP

:D

Rams Fan
04-28-2012, 01:34 PM
My God, I miss one season and the whole thing goes tits-up. Shame on me.

-ROR :D

Holy shit.

IT'S ROR!

SANCHIZE 2012

Bewbies
04-28-2012, 01:34 PM
I like taking defensive players from Bama. He will be very well coached coming in.

Frosty
04-28-2012, 01:34 PM
Chiefs passed on a chance to get another Greenwood on the team (Lions' pick)

DaKCMan AP
04-28-2012, 01:35 PM
He improved his 40 time to the 4.5's at pro day.

He played CB at Bama but will play safety here. Actually a really good fit, IMO, since we utilize 3 safeties and he can play both man & zone and has good cover skills.

Damn good pick by the Chiefs. Menzie played corner but projects as a safety in the NFL. We play 3 safeties alot and one is normally a coverage guy. Here you go.

:thumb:

I agree take Moore. This draft has been a disaster. I thought we should have taken Weeden #1, our pick @2 was perfect, #3 should have been that Ta'amu or whatever guy and in the 4th the kid that blocked 9 punts in college.


TrolLOLOLOLOLOLOOL

Direckshun
04-28-2012, 01:35 PM
QB
Matt Cassel
Brady Quinn
Ricky Stanzi

RB
Jamaal Charles
Peyton Hillis
Dexter McCluster
Shaun Draughn

FB
Shane Bannon

WR
Dwayne Bowe
Steve Breaston
Jonathan Baldwin
Devon Wylie
Terrance Copper
Jeremy Horne
Zeke Markshausen
Jamar Newsome

TE
Tony Moeaki
Kevin Boss
Steve Maneri
Kevin O'Connell

OT
Brandon Albert
Eric Winston
Donald Stephenson
David Mims

OG
Jon Asamoah
Ryan Lilja
Jeff Allen

C
Rodney Hudson
Darryl Harris
Rob Bruggeman

NT
Dontari Poe
Amon Gordon
Jerrell Powe
Anthony Toribio

DE
Glenn Dorsey
Tyson Jackson
Allen Bailey
Brandon Bair
Luke Patterson

OLB
Tamba Hali
Justin Houston
Cameron Sheffield
Andy Studebaker
Gabe Miller

ILB
Derrick Johnson
Jovan Belcher
Brandon Siler
Cory Greenwood
Caleb Campbell

CB
Brandon Flowers
Stanford Routt
Javier Arenas
Travis Daniels
Jalil Brown
Jacques Reeves

S
Eric Berry
Kendrick Lewis
DaQuan Menzie
Kyle McCarthy
Donald Washington
Mikail Baker

K
Ryan Succop

P
Dustin Colquitt

LS
Thomas Gafford

David.
04-28-2012, 01:35 PM
per walterfootball

A- Grade
DeQuan Menzie can play both cornerback and safety. Coincidentally, the Chiefs needed depth in both areas, especially the latter, since Romeo Crennel loves having three safeties on the field. Menzie was ranked No. 80 on Mike Mayock's big board, so he provides really good value in Round 5.

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 01:36 PM
well, we addressed needs down the line in this draft...


nothing sexy, don't know what to think about most picks...roll the dice

pray for poe

i'm out

JohnnyHammersticks
04-28-2012, 01:36 PM
Menzie #80 on Mayock's big board. Will be able to backup CB and S and play ST. Good value in the 5th round.

DTLB58
04-28-2012, 01:36 PM
Notes:

Was a prep standout in Georgia before attending Copiah-Lincoln Community College (Miss.) for two years, where he recorded 40 tackles and six interceptions in 2008 and 51 tackles and one interception in ’09 as a two-year starter. At Alabama, suffered a torn Achilles in April ’10 but returned to start the season opener against San Jose State. Played in 12 games (six starts), in ’10, recording 33 tackles, four pass breakups and zero interceptions with five tackles for loss and two sacks. Made two starts at RCB spot and four as a nickel back. Started all 13 games for the national champions in ’11 and totaled 41-11-1 with four tackles for loss, 1 1⁄2 sacks. Returned his lone interception 25 yards for a TD against Arkansas. Suffered a left shoulder injury at the Senior Bowl and did not run at the Combine because of a strained right hamstring.
Positives:

Good size. Reads and reacts quickly. Very physical — willing tackler who tries to square and wrap up ballcarriers. Aware in zone — plays with his eyes and passes off receivers. Good ball reactions. Is versatile and has experience playing the slot. Is well-respected and possesses terrific character. Dependable producer.
Negatives:

Has short arms and small hands. Marginal speed and twitch for the cornerback position. Limited in man coverage — loses ground at the break point and struggles to shadow more athletic receivers. Has a 33-inch vertical jump.
Summary:

Tough, competitive college cornerback who projects better to safety, where his physicality plays better. Might not have the juice to start, but could be a solid backup for a zone team and become a fourth safety and special-teams producer. Has make-it qualities and will find a way to contribute. Scouts have compared him to a poor man’s version of Houston Texans starting SS Glover Quin.

Worthless n00b
04-28-2012, 01:36 PM
Holy shit.

IT'S ROR!

SANCHIZE 2012

WE CAN DOOOO IT!

Seriously, the whole NFL has gone fucking loopy in my absense.

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 01:36 PM
I like taking defensive players from Bama. He will be very well coached coming in.

i agree, and familiar with our schemes

Pasta Giant Meatball
04-28-2012, 01:37 PM
FYP

:D

McGraw > Soggy Pistachio

Rams Fan
04-28-2012, 01:38 PM
WE CAN DOOOO IT!

Seriously, the whole NFL has gone ****ing loopy in my absense.

Where the fuck did you go?

Frosty
04-28-2012, 01:38 PM
Menzie highlights on ESPN looked good

BigMeatballDave
04-28-2012, 01:40 PM
I agree take Moore. This draft has been a disaster. I thought we should have taken Weeden #1, our pick @2 was perfect, #3 should have been that Ta'amu or whatever guy and in the 4th the kid that blocked 9 punts in college.

Weeden @ 11? LMAO

Worthless n00b
04-28-2012, 01:40 PM
Where the **** did you go?

Things got a little out there for ol' ROR, and I had to disappear for a few months. But, things are well now.

That's about all I want to say on the subject.

tk13
04-28-2012, 01:41 PM
That guy the Titans jumped over us to take is a DE who sounds like he might play TE in the NFL.

BigMeatballDave
04-28-2012, 01:41 PM
Where the fuck did you go?

Riding Mecca's coattails... :)

ChiefsCountry
04-28-2012, 01:41 PM
Finally Pioli goes SEC on a pick in this draft. We need about 2 more for him to be right on average.

Rams Fan
04-28-2012, 01:41 PM
Things got a little out there for ol' ROR, and I had to disappear for a few months. But, things are well now.

That's about all I want to say on the subject.

That sucks.

Hopefully you won't disappear again.:thumb:

Setsuna
04-28-2012, 01:41 PM
That is your best pick of the draft.

Chocolate Hog
04-28-2012, 01:41 PM
Things got a little out there for ol' ROR, and I had to disappear for a few months. But, things are well now.

That's about all I want to say on the subject.

You were blowing goats for a living?

Good to have you back.

Worthless n00b
04-28-2012, 01:42 PM
That sucks.

Hopefully you won't disappear again.:thumb:

Thank you Sir!

Count Alex's Losses
04-28-2012, 01:42 PM
I just exchanged some emails with ROR. He didn't even know Haley got canned.

Count Alex's Losses
04-28-2012, 01:42 PM
How was jail, ROR?

Frosty
04-28-2012, 01:43 PM
I wonder if NFLN knows that there are other divisions besides the NFC East?

jd1020
04-28-2012, 01:44 PM
So Audie Cole in the 6th?

Worthless n00b
04-28-2012, 01:44 PM
You were blowing goats for a living?

Good to have you back.

Thanks, Brah. I appearantly missed a lot in my time away.

Crennel? Really? Really?

I mean, fuck me...really?

Setsuna
04-28-2012, 01:45 PM
The NFC can go eat a dick.

saphojunkie
04-28-2012, 01:45 PM
Anybody else thinking Vontaze in the 6th FTW?

I don't care how crazy he is, that is legit first round talent in the 6th round. I'm actively hoping for it.

Oh, and everyone better be getting ready to root for Quinn. Cuz the QB dream of this year is fucking dead.

Count Alex's Losses
04-28-2012, 01:46 PM
Thanks, Brah. I appearantly missed a lot in my time away.

Crennel? Really? Really?

I mean, fuck me...really?

He's only 65 bro.

Direckshun
04-28-2012, 01:46 PM
Burfict is a UDFA talent.

Pass.

Worthless n00b
04-28-2012, 01:47 PM
How was jail, ROR?

So you're "Satanic Goat" now? LMAO

Jail was short and sweet. The path leading to it was long and full of misadventures.

Frosty
04-28-2012, 01:47 PM
Burfict's problem isn't that he's crazy; it's that he's stupid.