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Marty Mac Ver 2.0
04-26-2012, 02:42 PM
Word on the street is that Dallas and KC have worked out a trade for the #11 pick.

SNR
04-26-2012, 02:43 PM
Word has it the pick involves Q

Chief_For_Life58
04-26-2012, 02:44 PM
which street did u hear this on?

Micjones
04-26-2012, 02:45 PM
That would net us a mid-3rd?

mr. tegu
04-26-2012, 02:47 PM
link? Compensation?

Bewbies
04-26-2012, 02:47 PM
Jerry will let Clark ride in his private jet and will throw in $100 cash.

Dayze
04-26-2012, 02:48 PM
Word has it the pick involves Q

LMAO

chiefs2012
04-26-2012, 02:49 PM
we've politely asked for a link

Chiefaholic
04-26-2012, 02:49 PM
link? Compensation?

The words still on the street, so it takes longer to communicate. FYI... I want to stay exactly where were at until were on the board and we see who our options are. I sure as hell don't want to trade down with only one premier prospect left on the board.

KevB
04-26-2012, 02:50 PM
I'd think that's completely contingent on a certain player being available at 11. Barron or Gilmore I'd guess.

-King-
04-26-2012, 02:50 PM
Why would they do a trade now?

mr. tegu
04-26-2012, 02:51 PM
I am all for a trade down as long as it doesn't result in Poe.

qabbaan
04-26-2012, 02:52 PM
I think you might have this right because ESPN reported the same thing this morning.

mcaj22
04-26-2012, 02:52 PM
does it involve them giving us Brandon Carr back?

BryanBusby
04-26-2012, 02:53 PM
Why would they do a trade now?

They don't have all freakin' night to hammer out picks once they are on the board, so teams are going to make several trade agreements in advance if situations x and y and condition z are met. There's several agreements made every draft that never actually happens.

If you try to wing it, there's the chance of looking like a fucking idiot ala Jerry Angelo and pissing off the rest of the league.

the Talking Can
04-26-2012, 02:53 PM
I think you might have this right because ESPN reported the same thing this morning.

and last night, even

Marty Mac Ver 2.0
04-26-2012, 02:57 PM
NFL GMs have a series of situational trades on ice. How in the hell else do you think it a trade occurs in 8 minutes on draft day when other trades take weeks. you'd be shocked at the number of deals struck that never happen on draft day. Its all about due diligence.

Dallas wants the S from Alabama. Its that simple.

HemiEd
04-26-2012, 02:59 PM
does it involve them giving us Brandon Carr back?

This, tell Jerry Jones to go fuck himself.

Radar Chief
04-26-2012, 03:01 PM
Interesting. Wasn’t it Dallas that the Chiefs traded with to move up and get Simms? I think we owe them one for that.

Discuss Thrower
04-26-2012, 03:03 PM
Swap picks, we give them Matt Cassel and a 2nd rounder next year for an extra 3rd/4th this and Kyle Orton.

ChiefsCountry
04-26-2012, 03:06 PM
Those of you asking for a link, the OP has lots of sources in the NFL and ran a website. Consider this your source.

BigCatDaddy
04-26-2012, 03:08 PM
A 3rd would be sweet, but I'm betting it's a 4th.

Chiefnj2
04-26-2012, 03:08 PM
Why would they do a trade now?

They always work out a trade ahead of time.

Chiefnj2
04-26-2012, 03:09 PM
Dallas will take Barron if he is available. That leaves KC grabbing DeCastro or someone like Brockers?

-King-
04-26-2012, 03:09 PM
They don't have all freakin' night to hammer out picks once they are on the board, so teams are going to make several trade agreements in advance if situations x and y and condition z are met. There's several agreements made every draft that never actually happens.

If you try to wing it, there's the chance of looking like a fucking idiot ala Jerry Angelo and pissing off the rest of the league.
They always work out a trade ahead of time.

My bad. I took the OP as meaning that the trade was about to happen now.

Thig Lyfe
04-26-2012, 03:11 PM
Peyton Manning in play???

Bootlegged
04-26-2012, 03:11 PM
Chiefs and Dallas swap picks and Dallas gives KC Kyle Orton back.

Bump
04-26-2012, 03:11 PM
I hope that happens

mcaj22
04-26-2012, 03:12 PM
Chiefs and Dallas swap picks and Dallas gives KC Kyle Orton back.



LOL

Chocolate Hog
04-26-2012, 03:13 PM
So if we trade back to 14 the likely choices: Kuelchy, Decastro, and Brockers.

Frosty
04-26-2012, 03:13 PM
Chiefs and Dallas swap picks and Dallas gives KC Brandon Carr back.

FYP

Chiefnj2
04-26-2012, 03:13 PM
So if we trade back to 14 the likely choices: Kuelchy, Decastro, and Brockers.

I'd rather have Barron.

Jerm
04-26-2012, 03:14 PM
If we trade back, hopefully Hightower is the pick.

eazyb81
04-26-2012, 03:15 PM
So if we trade back to 14 the likely choices: Kuelchy, Decastro, and Brockers.

Probably, but none of those excite me at all.

Dayze
04-26-2012, 03:16 PM
If we trade back, hopefully Hightower is the pick.

That

royr17
04-26-2012, 03:17 PM
Hey if they make that trade why not draft quinton couples at 14. you could go with a starting lineup next year made of Bailey, Chapman if Drafted, and Coples. Bailey and Coples have the size to play in the 3-4.

That be sweet with Hali and Houston as the OLB's and Bailey and Coples as the DE's. Lots of pass rushing ability right there.

bsp4444
04-26-2012, 03:23 PM
So if we trade back to 14 the likely choices: Kuelchy, Decastro, and Brockers.

And that's sort of who our choices are at #11, except for Barron. I like moving back and gaining an extra pick more than I like spending another high pick on a safety.

BryanBusby
04-26-2012, 03:24 PM
Kuechly could be gone before the Chiefs original pick.

Chocolate Hog
04-26-2012, 03:24 PM
Probably, but none of those excite me at all.

Me either.

For me its Tannehill who I know you hate, Ingram, and Barron.

BigCatDaddy
04-26-2012, 03:24 PM
I'd really like to have been able to move back a little further and get a higher pick in return then what we'll probably get for moving back 3 spots.

keg in kc
04-26-2012, 03:27 PM
I'd really like to have been able to move back a little further and get a higher pick in return then what we'll probably get for moving back 3 spots.There's no rule against trading back a second time.

suds79
04-26-2012, 03:28 PM
There's no rule against trading back a second time.

Just about to post this.

Good thought. Every bit helps.

sedated
04-26-2012, 03:29 PM
Here comes DeCastro!!!

BryanBusby
04-26-2012, 03:29 PM
Trade back because we have mad holes to fill.....wait a second.

E: Aw yeah, trade back to draft more Guards! Fuck. Yes.

Saul Good
04-26-2012, 03:37 PM
Cowboys get our first and third in exchange for their first and second.

We take Brockers, Ta'amu, Osweiler, and Molk with our first four picks.

Mojo Jojo
04-26-2012, 03:40 PM
we've politely asked for a link
It's been on KC Sports radio and their national "experts" since late morning.

DeezNutz
04-26-2012, 03:41 PM
Cowboys get our first and third in exchange for their first and second.

We take Brockers, Ta'amu, Osweiler, and Molk with our first four picks.

I honestly think Osweiler would be a wasted pick, which probably means he'll end up being nails.

Most of the game film on him is lackluster.

Mr. Laz
04-26-2012, 03:44 PM
They don't have all freakin' night to hammer out picks once they are on the board, so teams are going to make several trade agreements in advance if situations x and y and condition z are met. There's several agreements made every draft that never actually happens.

If you try to wing it, there's the chance of looking like a fucking idiot ala Jerry Angelo and pissing off the rest of the league.
yep, there are tons of 'parameter trades' in the works already imo.

Frankie
04-26-2012, 03:46 PM
Dallas will take Barron if he is available. That leaves KC grabbing DeCastro or someone like Brockers?

My pick will come from this list:

Tannehill
Barron
Kuechly

Or de Castro at around 18.

NO TO BROCKERS!

Saul Good
04-26-2012, 03:46 PM
I honestly think Osweiler would be a wasted pick, which probably means he'll end up being nails.

Most of the game film on him is lackluster.

Very possible. He's a homerun swing that we can afford to take. We have an entire roster full of solid singles. A homerun helps us infinitely more than a strikeout hurts us.

Marty Mac Ver 2.0
04-26-2012, 03:50 PM
Dolphins have now called the Chiefs about moving spots.

Saul Good
04-26-2012, 03:50 PM
My pick will come from this list:

Tannehill
Barron
Kuechly

Or de Castro at around 18.

NO TO BROCKERS!

Of course you don't want Brockers. Why would we want a prototype DE for our system when we could just play a hodgepodge of players that don't really fit?

TEX
04-26-2012, 03:52 PM
Here comes DeCastro!!!

I for one hope so - I'd be VERY HAPPY if that's who the Chiefs pick!

Chocolate Hog
04-26-2012, 03:55 PM
Of course you don't want Brockers. Why would we want a prototype DE for our system when we could just play a hodgepodge of players that don't really fit?

Except Dorsey and Jackson rated 1 and 2 against the run among all d-ends in the league. Brockers isn't a pass rusher.

BryanBusby
04-26-2012, 03:55 PM
ALL GUARDS EVERY ROUND

Mr. Laz
04-26-2012, 03:58 PM
Except Dorsey and Jackson rated 1 and 2 against the run among all d-ends in the league. Brockers isn't a pass rusher.
well tbh it helps they they sacrifice all semblance of pass rush/penetration to defend the run and protect the LB's

Mr. Laz
04-26-2012, 04:00 PM
I for one hope so - I'd be VERY HAPPY if that's who the Chiefs pick!
Barron,Kuechly,DeCastro aren't exciting picks but i think they will all be quality players who would make us better.

The Bad Guy
04-26-2012, 04:04 PM
Of course you don't want Brockers. Why would we want a prototype DE for our system when we could just play a hodgepodge of players that don't really fit?

You're about as qualified to talk about football as my 2 year old.

You're the genius who tried to say that the Giants won the SB because of a bunch of 5 techs.

Yes, a hodgepodge since if we don't want Brockers then we must just want someone who doesn't fit.

DTLB58
04-26-2012, 04:04 PM
If we would do this and get the Cowboy's #81 in the 3rd round and pick Hightower :thumb:

Douche Baggins
04-26-2012, 04:05 PM
TONY ROMO!

Mr. Laz
04-26-2012, 04:06 PM
If we would do this and get the Cowboy's #81 in the 3rd round and pick Hightower :thumb:
yea ... i'd be ok with that

let's all just hope that Barron is still there for us to draft or to get us a trade. :thumb:

Saul Good
04-26-2012, 04:06 PM
You're about as qualified to talk about football as my 2 year old.

You're the genius who tried to say that the Giants won the SB because of a bunch of 5 techs.

Yes, a hodgepodge since if we don't want Brockers then we must just want someone who doesn't fit.

I said the Giants have won two Superbowls recently by finding ways to get multiple DEs on the field at the same time.

Mr. Laz
04-26-2012, 04:08 PM
I said the Giants have won two Superbowls recently by finding ways to get multiple DEs on the field at the same time.
not trying to talk for BG but a completely difference situation.

The Giants are fielding multiple pass rushing DE's on the field.

5-techs are human punching bags

BryanBusby
04-26-2012, 04:08 PM
You know what wins Super Bowls? Guards.

Thig Lyfe
04-26-2012, 04:09 PM
ALL GUARDS EVERY ROUND

ALL GUARDS EVERYTHING

KCTitus
04-26-2012, 04:14 PM
You know what wins Super Bowls? Guards.

Pffft...Franchise Full Backs win Playoff Games. You dont convert 3rd and one w/o a franchise full back.

gblowfish
04-26-2012, 04:16 PM
Jerry Jones has promised Clark a motorcycle ride with a leggy blonde 20-something former volleyball player if we swap our 1-3 for their 1-2.

Just don't wreck while getting a handie, Clark...

Epic Fail 007
04-26-2012, 04:20 PM
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa damn!

Frankie
04-26-2012, 04:20 PM
Dolphins have now called the Chiefs about moving spots.

If this is true it's a big clue that they won't take Tannehill at 8.

the Talking Can
04-26-2012, 04:22 PM
Dolphins have now called the Chiefs about moving spots.

first, thanks for the tips...

second, the only way that makes sense is if they think we want tannehill...or am i missing an angle?

Mr. Laz
04-26-2012, 04:23 PM
If this is true it's a big clue that they won't take Tannehill at 8.

this

Thig Lyfe
04-26-2012, 04:26 PM
You know what wins Super Bowls? Guards.

Yo I herd u liek guards so I put a guard in your guard so you can guard while you guard.

vailpass
04-26-2012, 04:30 PM
If this is true it's a big clue that they won't take Tannehill at 8.

:eek: Whoah. The hell you say. Mind=blown.

the Talking Can
04-26-2012, 04:33 PM
If this is true it's a big clue that they won't take Tannehill at 8.

not really...just another contingency

say someone jumps miami for tannehill, or cleveland takes him, then what do they do?

and maybe KC is willing to jump up for kalil or keuchly...

i'm sure teams want to be prepared for all imaginable scenarios

saphojunkie
04-26-2012, 04:37 PM
You know what wins Super Bowls? Guards.

NO ONE HAS EVER DRAFTED A GUARD EVER ANYWHERE FROM ANY SCHOOL DON'T BE STUPID

ChiefMojo
04-26-2012, 04:42 PM
If Barron is there at #11, we will 100% trade down! Sure we could take him ourselves but Jerry Jones was just on the NFLN and all but said he wants Mark Barron. :D Jerry wants that trade up badly for Barron!!!

eazyb81
04-26-2012, 04:43 PM
If this is true it's a big clue that they won't take Tannehill at 8.

And if the offensive coordinator that recruited and coached Tannehill for 4 years doesn't want him, we want absolutely nothing to do with him.

SNR
04-26-2012, 04:48 PM
Cowboys get our first and third in exchange for their first and second.

We take Brockers, Ta'amu, Osweiler, and Molk with our first four picks.Chapman's better than Ta'amu

Osweiler sucks

Molk is too small

You suck at the draft

AustinChief
04-26-2012, 04:54 PM
Chapman's better than Ta'amu

Osweiler sucks

Molk is too small

You suck at the draft

Yeah, cuz it's a good idea to have a 6'5" center that blocks the view of the QB (I've seen a quote somewhere from a scout or coach who said a Center can never be too short)... as for his BULK... he is the strongest center in the draft.. so I don't think his weight is a huge factor. He's the #2 or 3 pure center in the draft.. period.

BUT you're right on Chapman over Ta'amu... but Chapman (right now) is a 1-gap NT and doesn't really fit our scheme... but maybe he can bulk up or we can can grow up and switch to a 1-gap

Frankie
04-26-2012, 04:56 PM
And if the offensive coordinator that recruited and coached Tannehill for 4 years doesn't want him, we want absolutely nothing to do with him.

Wrong. This has been brought up N times and my answer is that Sherman DOES NOT HAVE THE FINAL SAY in the Miami draft room. Philbin and Ireland do.

Frankie
04-26-2012, 04:58 PM
Yeah, cuz it's a good idea to have a 6'5" center that blocks the view of the QB (I've seen a quote somewhere from a scout or coach who said a Center can never be too short)... as for his BULK... he is the strongest center in the draft.. so I don't think his weight is a huge factor. He's the #2 or 3 pure center in the draft.. period.

BUT you're right on Chapman over Ta'amu... but Chapman (right now) is a 1-gap NT and doesn't really fit our scheme... but maybe he can bulk up or we can can grow up and switch to a 1-gap

Good.

SNR
04-26-2012, 05:03 PM
Yeah, cuz it's a good idea to have a 6'5" center that blocks the view of the QB (I've seen a quote somewhere from a scout or coach who said a Center can never be too short)... as for his BULK... he is the strongest center in the draft.. so I don't think his weight is a huge factor. He's the #2 or 3 pure center in the draft.. period.

BUT you're right on Chapman over Ta'amu... but Chapman (right now) is a 1-gap NT and doesn't really fit our scheme... but maybe he can bulk up or we can can grow up and switch to a 1-gapHeight doesn't matter. You want short(er) centers in a zone scheme. Molk's height is good.

He's listed at 298, but he played a lot lighter at Michigan. I saw him get pushed back all the time and not hold onto blocks nearly long enough. He doesn't have much of an anchor.

Let's hope he uses his honey badgerness to get push on short yardage. He has limited growth potential in terms of getting an anchor. If he doesn't it looks like we've got the same problem we had with Casey last year.

Marty Mac Ver 2.0
04-26-2012, 05:18 PM
Miami wants to get Tannehill cheap. That #11 saves a lot of money for an NFL team. The chiefs are sitting on gold.

the Talking Can
04-26-2012, 05:19 PM
Miami wants to get Tannehill cheap. That #11 saves a lot of money for an NFL team. The chiefs are sitting on gold.

wait, you mean miami want's to give us a pick to move down?

Chief_For_Life58
04-26-2012, 05:24 PM
Miami wants to get Tannehill cheap. That #11 saves a lot of money for an NFL team. The chiefs are sitting on gold.

uhh yea...what?

eazyb81
04-26-2012, 05:25 PM
Wrong. This has been brought up N times and my answer is that Sherman DOES NOT HAVE THE FINAL SAY in the Miami draft room. Philbin and Ireland do.

LOL, you think they value Sherman's coaching and evaluation abilities enough to make him the leader of their offense, but they don't trust him enough to value his decision on a QB he has worked with everyday for the past 4 seasons?

You are nuts.

beer bacon
04-26-2012, 05:30 PM
If we trade back, hopefully Hightower is the pick.

I want Hightower or Ingram, so yes please.

Frankie
04-26-2012, 05:34 PM
LOL, you think they value Sherman's coaching and evaluation abilities enough to make him the leader of their offense, but they don't trust him enough to value his decision on a QB he has worked with everyday for the past 4 seasons?

You are nuts.

Sherman has only a vote. Subject to veto by Ireland or Philbin. There are elite players in positions of need that Miami will have a hard time passing up. For the contract they have to give at 8 I'm sure a project QB is not their total focus.

That said, Ireland is a joke GM anyway.

Marty Mac Ver 2.0
04-26-2012, 06:54 PM
Yes. The way the rookie pool is set up there is a huge difference in deals that players 1-10 sign vs 11-22 and so on. Miami had to protect both sides of the draft spot. This was a contingency trade