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Mr_Tomahawk
04-26-2012, 08:12 PM
Now that we got Poe,

[Swallows vomit]

Who do we pic up in the 2nd and 3rd?

I am hoping one of them is a QB....not named Cousins.

HoneyBadger
04-26-2012, 08:17 PM
Perry

Simplicity
04-26-2012, 08:18 PM
WE HAVE TOO MANY QB'S STFU... My god.

SNR
04-26-2012, 08:18 PM
LET'S TAKE A TURD QB LIKE OSWEILER OR COUSINS.

BryanBusby
04-26-2012, 08:19 PM
a new fucking GM

Mr_Tomahawk
04-26-2012, 08:19 PM
LET'S TAKE A TURD QB LIKE OSWEILER OR COUSINS.

You are right.

We are set at QB as is...

evolve27
04-26-2012, 08:20 PM
QB and QB. Fuck Poe. Fuck that guy

Sofa King
04-26-2012, 08:20 PM
Kellen Moore and Vontaze Burfict.

Fuck it. Whatever gets these dumbasses fired faster.

HoneyBadger
04-26-2012, 08:21 PM
We should take someone to replace Poe

O.city
04-26-2012, 08:21 PM
Konz in the second.

Dicky McElephant
04-26-2012, 08:22 PM
Kellen Moore and Vontaze Burfict.

Fuck it. Whatever gets these dumbasses fired faster.

This.

DeezNutz
04-26-2012, 08:22 PM
Players who should be taken in the 3rd and 4th.

SPchief
04-26-2012, 08:23 PM
Wheeden in the 2nd would be nice. :banghead:

SPchief
04-26-2012, 08:23 PM
Players who should be taken in the 3rd and 4th.

LMAO

milkman
04-26-2012, 08:25 PM
A 29 year old rookie QB in Brandon Weedon, and a head case that will get himeself banned fro the NFL in a couple years with off field issues in Janoris Jenkins.

A trifecta of suckage.

Mr_Tomahawk
04-26-2012, 08:26 PM
A 29 year old rookie QB in Brandon Weedon, and a head case that will get himeself banned fro the NFL in a couple years with off field issues in Janoris Jenkins.

A trifecta of suckage.

Well...

...does this mean no Matt Cassel?

Sofa King
04-26-2012, 08:40 PM
Well...

...does this mean no Matt Cassel?

No. Of course not.

Strongside
04-26-2012, 08:43 PM
Vontaze Burfict and Jake Lattimer. We'll also need to add someone to babysit both of them to the payroll.
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milkman
04-26-2012, 08:45 PM
Well...

...does this mean no Matt Cassel?

Yeah.....




In 2015.


Then we'll be looking for another QB in 2018.


Wash, rinse, repeat.

Munson
04-26-2012, 08:49 PM
Pass rushing OLB

ILB

C

S

Molitoth
04-26-2012, 08:50 PM
Roger stauback came into the NFL at age 27.

I'd take weeden.

Pasta Giant Meatball
04-26-2012, 08:52 PM
They coulda went guard!!!!!!!!!

the Talking Can
04-26-2012, 08:55 PM
we should try to draft someone who has even less college production than poe...just to see if it is possible

KCTitus
04-26-2012, 08:57 PM
Pass rushing OLB

ILB

C

S

Seems wise...KC didnt score a touchdown in something like 5 straight games, so yeah, they definitely need to focus more on defense.

PHOG
04-26-2012, 08:58 PM
Does Matt Cassuck have a younger brother?

PRIEST
04-26-2012, 08:59 PM
Does Matt Cassuck have a younger brother?

This

the Talking Can
04-26-2012, 09:00 PM
we should draft someone who actually has a highlight film...you know, just for kicks...

HemiEd
04-27-2012, 07:19 AM
I get the impression some of you aren't happy with the pick?

the Talking Can
04-27-2012, 07:22 AM
I get the impression some of you aren't happy with the pick?

what's not to love about a player who produced nothing in a childs league, and whose own coach has admitted that he (the coach) is a retard who taught his players nothing?

Bane
04-27-2012, 07:22 AM
Any more combine superstars left?

Nightfyre
04-27-2012, 07:54 AM
Any more combine superstars left?

Stephen Hill?

chiefzilla1501
04-27-2012, 08:08 AM
I don't know why people were gung ho about spending a first on Tannehill but dead set against using a second or third on Osweiller. To me, Tannehill is the safer pick, but Osweiller is much more of a boom bust prospect. Because unlike Tannehill, Osweiller can compensate for a lack of being a mental Tom Brady because of his size. Tannehill's an athletic QB, but it's not going to turn his game into Michael Vick's. If Osweiller learns to process the game, he can become a Big Ben QB -- a guy who's impossible to tackle and because of that, can hold on to the ball a little longer because he can't read defenses fast enough.

Again, would love to see the Chiefs draft Osweiller and carry 4 QBs. Start Stanzi this year, if he shows no potential to be franchise, then cut him and draft a first rounder next year.

Count Alex's Losses
04-27-2012, 08:09 AM
A running back, so I can shove him up the ass of all the McClusterbators.

brorth
04-27-2012, 09:24 AM
Does Matt Cassuck have a younger brother?

Yeah, but he just got signed by the Patriots.

Rausch
04-27-2012, 09:26 AM
A running back, so I can shove him up the ass of all the McClusterbators.

I'd like to find another banger in the 4th/5th...

Setsuna
04-27-2012, 09:26 AM
A 29 year old rookie QB in Brandon Weedon, and a head case that will get himeself banned fro the NFL in a couple years with off field issues in Janoris Jenkins.

A trifecta of suckage.
Man **** you. Stop bad mouthing the best corner in this draft. I hope he goes to the Broncos and shuts your shit down every year.

Rausch
04-27-2012, 09:30 AM
Man **** you. Stop bad mouthing the best corner in this draft. I hope he goes to the Broncos and shuts your shit down every year.

...

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ChiefMojo
04-27-2012, 09:33 AM
Setsuna why are you even on this ****ing board still???

Like it or not it will likely be OG/QB today imo.

Direckshun
04-27-2012, 09:33 AM
I think Stephen Hill makes the most sense if you think you can coach him up. You're only using a 2nd on him, and you can give him a couple seasons to learn the route tree.

Some really good passrushers remain, from Upshaw to Nick Perry to Andre Branch. Branch, I think, makes the most sense in our scheme.

Devon Still or Brandon Thompson at DE would also make me happy, and would help fortify our DE in 2013.

Some pretty attractive OL on the board, but I'd rather us pass for now.

I'm not digging on Janoris Jenkins, but Brandon Boykin or Chase Minnifield would be good bets for the future at CB.

My board, subject to change, would look like this for the Chiefs:

1. WR Stephen Hill, Georgia Tech
2. OLB Andre Branch, Clemson
3. OLB Courtney Upshaw, Alabama
4. DE Devon Still, Penn State
5. OLB Nick Perry, USC
6. CB Chase Minnifield, Virginia
7. DE Brandon Thompson, Clemson
8. CB Brandon Boykins, Georgia

Worth mentioning: Still and Upshaw are team captains.

ETA: So was Thompson.

ETA: So was Boykin.

the Talking Can
04-27-2012, 09:35 AM
I think Stephen Hill makes the most sense if you think you can coach him up. You're only using a 2nd on him, and you can give him a couple seasons to learn the route tree.

Some really good passrushers remain, from Upshaw to Nick Perry to Andre Branch. Branch, I think, makes the most sense in our scheme.

Devon Still or Brandon Thompson at DE would also make me happy, and would help fortify our DE in 2013.

Some pretty attractive OL on the board, but I'd rather us pass for now.

I'm not digging on Janoris Jenkins, but Brandon Boykin or Chase Minnifield would be good bets for the future at CB.

My board, subject to change, would look like this for the Chiefs:

1. WR Stephen Hill, Georgia Tech
2. OLB Andre Branch, Clemson
3. OLB Courtney Upshaw, Alabama
4. DE Devon Still, Penn State
5. OLB Nick Perry, USC
6. CB Chase Minnifield, Virginia
7. DE Brandon Thompson, Clemson
8. CB Brandon Boykins, Georgia

Worth mentioning: Still and Upshaw are team captains.

ETA: So was Thompson.

perry went to packers

Direckshun
04-27-2012, 09:36 AM
perry went to packers

Ah. Right.

the Talking Can
04-27-2012, 09:37 AM
too high for boykins

Hill...eh, I know nothing about him so i'll reserve judgement

with all the OL, it seems like that would be the Chiefs move, but they clearly aren't operating based on what seems obvious

Branch, Upshaw...yes

glenn, jenkins...yes

Chief Faithful
04-27-2012, 09:42 AM
I'm hoping for Konz or Glenn in rd 2. Konz my be listed at C, but with his size and mobility I think he could excel at LG.

Direckshun
04-27-2012, 09:42 AM
too high for boykins

Hill...eh, I know nothing about him so i'll reserve judgement

with all the OL, it seems like that would be the Chiefs move, but they clearly aren't operating based on what seems obvious

Branch, Upshaw...yes

glenn, jenkins...yes

Hill is really tall, really lanky but he's Usain Bolt on the football field.

Thing is, he basically has no route running ability. And his output has been iffy.

He's basically the Dontari Poe of WRs.

Fat Elvis
04-27-2012, 09:43 AM
Seems wise...KC didnt score a touchdown in something like 5 straight games, so yeah, they definitely need to focus more on defense.

Clark is so focused on Sporting KC that he trying to get scores in the NFL, well at least in KC, to mirror those in soccer.

the Talking Can
04-27-2012, 09:43 AM
Hill is really tall, really lanky but he's Usain Bolt on the football field.

Thing is, he basically has no route running ability. And his output has been iffy.

He's basically the Dontari Poe of WRs.

fuck it...let's draft the dontari poe of every round

Direckshun
04-27-2012, 09:44 AM
I'm hoping for Konz or Glenn in rd 2. Konz my be listed at C, but with his size and mobility I think he could excel at LG.

The Chiefs, under Pioli, do not draft Wisconsin linemen. It's a totally different scheme than we run.

If we did, we'd probably just bench Konz for the year, like we do with every other non-1st round OL.

Direckshun
04-27-2012, 09:44 AM
**** it...let's draft the dontari poe of every round

LMAO

mcaj22
04-27-2012, 09:45 AM
id also still like Devon Still

cant believe he fell to the 2nd. I go to Penn State, he is going to be decent I think. Would be the perfect replacement for Dorsey.

But I know two d-lineman with our first two picks, this place would have a meltdown. I certainly wouldnt mind it

Direckshun
04-27-2012, 09:48 AM
id also still like Devon Still

cant believe he fell to the 2nd. I go to Penn State, he is going to be decent I think. Would be the perfect replacement for Dorsey.

But I know two d-lineman with our first two picks, this place would have a meltdown. I certainly wouldnt mind it

The Poe pick complicates things.

You don't want to take two Poe's early in the draft, two guys with reported motivation issues, two guys with little college production, two guys who are major works in progress.

Still has motivation issues. I'd say the Poe pick downgrades his chances.

That leaves players with great motors, great production, who are relatively close to seeing the field.

Bwana
04-27-2012, 09:52 AM
Man **** you. Stop bad mouthing the best corner in this draft. I hope he goes to the Broncos and shuts your shit down every year.

:spock:

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Steron
04-27-2012, 09:57 AM
Trade for McCoy. :spock:

McCoy, Cassel, Stanzi/Quinn :huh:

mcaj22
04-27-2012, 10:02 AM
La Shitfornia just said on NFLN right now that he could see the Chiefs taking Kirk Cousins today


somebody kill me

the Talking Can
04-27-2012, 10:04 AM
La Shitfornia just said on NFLN right now that he could see the Chiefs taking Kirk Cousins today


somebody kill me

jesus god


what a fucking disaster this draft could be....

let's take QB who projects to be chad henne

Hoover
04-27-2012, 10:05 AM
We are not taking a QB is this draft.

mcaj22
04-27-2012, 10:06 AM
jesus god


what a ****ing disaster this draft could be....

let's take QB who projects to be chad henne



they were asking about day 2 QBs that would come off the board today and he mentioned the Chiefs and a couple other teams as teams that "put in the work" of evaluating most of these 2nd day quarterbacks today. And then he mentioned Kirk Cousins. And then I wanted to cry.

the Talking Can
04-27-2012, 10:06 AM
i'd rather trot out stanzi than cousins

Micjones
04-27-2012, 10:39 AM
Round 2:
(T/G) Cordy Glenn
(OLB) Andre Branch
(OLB) Courtney Upshaw
(T/G) Kelechi Osemele
(T/G) Amini Silatolu

Round 3:
(QB) Brock Osweiler
(QB) Kirk Cousins
(G) Brandon Brooks
(S) Brandon Taylor
(T/G) Brandon Washington

Dicky McElephant
04-27-2012, 10:50 AM
Fuck Kirk Cousins.

htismaqe
04-27-2012, 11:03 AM
i'd rather trot out stanzi than cousins

No shit.

Dmello12
04-27-2012, 11:03 AM
Vontaze! LMAO

SNR
04-27-2012, 11:24 AM
Safety's a big enough need and I'm a huge fan of the players available that I'd be happy to trade down and take Trumaine Johnson, Brandon Taylor, or George Iloka.

I'll take any of those guys over an asshole like Upshaw. And I'll ESPECIALLY take them over fucking Kirk Cousins

Detoxing
04-27-2012, 11:41 AM
Safety's a big enough need and I'm a huge fan of the players available that I'd be happy to trade down and take Trumaine Johnson, Brandon Taylor, or George Iloka.

I'll take any of those guys over an asshole like Upshaw. And I'll ESPECIALLY take them over ****ing Kirk Cousins

I agree. We need one of those 2nd/3rd round safties.

Barret
04-27-2012, 11:45 AM
I hate to say this but wouldn't Cousins be a logical pick for this FO?

I certainly don't want Cousins but follow this reasoning from the Front Office.

1: He more then likely wouldn't be competition for Prince Cassel.
2: The front office states "well we tried to bring in competition for the position but Cassel is still our boy" This year
3: Next draft when the Chiefs might be close enough to go up and get Barkley, "Well we are still evaluating our 2nd round draft pick from last year and Cassel only needs (insert position here) to really open up and show what he's got"
4: They will pick a WR next year since Bowe will be gone cause he can't stand trying to catch lame ducks from Cassel.

Just my thoughts on it. I hope I am wrong.

Valiant
04-27-2012, 11:51 AM
We should take someone to replace Poe

Lol. I was thinking similar, if there is another nt that is worth the pick I say take him. Not to replace but push him.

philfree
04-27-2012, 11:53 AM
Now that we got Poe,

[Swallows vomit]

Who do we pic up in the 2nd and 3rd?

I am hoping one of them is a QB....not named Cousins.

We don't have a backup C or a swing tackle and we could also use a G.
We need S depth.
I don't think we're set at RB.

suds79
04-27-2012, 12:05 PM
Teams in round two who could possibly be looking QB before us...

(33) Rams
(34) Colts
(35) Ravens (From Vikings)
(36) Broncos (From Buccaneers) - Broncos are rumored to like Brock
(37) Browns
(38) Jaguars
(39) Rams (From Redskins)
(40) Panthers
(41) Bills
(42) Dolphins
(43) Seahawks
(44) Chiefs


Got to dodge the bullet 3 times the way I see it.

Frosty
04-27-2012, 12:11 PM
Teams in round two who could possibly be looking QB before us...

(33) Rams
(34) Colts
(35) Ravens (From Vikings)
(36) Broncos (From Buccaneers) - Broncos are rumored to like Brock
(37) Browns
(38) Jaguars
(39) Rams (From Redskins)
(40) Panthers
(41) Bills
(42) Dolphins
(43) Seahawks
(44) Chiefs


Got to dodge the bullet 3 times the way I see it.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Broncos took Lamar Miller there. I think the Seahawks will take a QB this draft but it will be a late round development guy.

That said, I think the Chiefs will take o-line here.

Epic Fail 007
04-27-2012, 12:17 PM
I find it very funny that all the smart ass white people are the only ones saying negative things about the poe pick. I have not seen any black people saying anything negative. And Im white saying this. Im white and I love the pick . He will eat up blockers which will make the whole defense better.

Dicky McElephant
04-27-2012, 12:18 PM
The Broncos will probably go RB. The Bills will be hoping that Jonathan Martin falls to #41. I don't see the Seahawks grabbing a QB.

suds79
04-27-2012, 12:20 PM
I find it very funny that all the smart ass white people are the only ones saying negative things about the poe pick. I have not seen any black people saying anything negative. And Im white saying this. Im white and I love the pick . He will eat up blockers which will make the whole defense better.

Wow that's a bit of a stretch don't you think?

I don't know who's white & black on here. Don't really care to know.

For the record, I'm excited about the Poe pick but obviously have question marks about how good he will be. But I'm excited about having a man with those skills anchor the NT spot... And I'm white FYI.

jspchief
04-27-2012, 12:21 PM
I find it very funny that all the smart ass white people are the only ones saying negative things about the poe pick. I have not seen any black people saying anything negative. And Im white saying this. Im white and I love the pick . He will eat up blockers which will make the whole defense better.What? You're a fucking imbecile.

the Talking Can
04-27-2012, 12:22 PM
I find it very funny that all the smart ass white people are the only ones saying negative things about the poe pick. I have not seen any black people saying anything negative. And Im white saying this. Im white and I love the pick . He will eat up blockers which will make the whole defense better.

would you fucking kill yourself in real life, asap

ChiTown
04-27-2012, 12:22 PM
I find it very funny that all the smart ass white people are the only ones saying negative things about the poe pick. I have not seen any black people saying anything negative. And Im white saying this. Im white and I love the pick . He will eat up blockers which will make the whole defense better.

STFU

keg in kc
04-27-2012, 12:22 PM
I wouldn't touch any of the quarterbacks tonight. I'd probably be looking linebacker, db/safety and interior o-line.

the Talking Can
04-27-2012, 12:25 PM
15. Jonathan Martin | 6'6, 305 pounds | Offensive tackle | Stanford
16. Peter Konz | 6'5, 313 pounds | Center | Wisconsin
25. Cordy Glenn | 6'5 1/2, 346 pounds | Tackle/guard | Georgia
40. Kelechi Osemele | 6'5 3/8, 333 pounds | Tackle/guard | Iowa State
49. Amini Silatolu | 6'3, 324 pounds | Tackle/guard | Midwestern State
50. Mike Adams | 6'7, 323 pounds | Offensive tackle | Ohio State



so, if the Chiefs were bent on OL in the second, which guy would you want?

Brock
04-27-2012, 12:26 PM
I find it very funny that all the smart ass white people are the only ones saying negative things about the poe pick. I have not seen any black people saying anything negative. And Im white saying this. Im white and I love the pick . He will eat up blockers which will make the whole defense better.

LMAO You're such a tard.

suds79
04-27-2012, 12:26 PM
15. Jonathan Martin | 6'6, 305 pounds | Offensive tackle | Stanford
16. Peter Konz | 6'5, 313 pounds | Center | Wisconsin
25. Cordy Glenn | 6'5 1/2, 346 pounds | Tackle/guard | Georgia
40. Kelechi Osemele | 6'5 3/8, 333 pounds | Tackle/guard | Iowa State
49. Amini Silatolu | 6'3, 324 pounds | Tackle/guard | Midwestern State
50. Mike Adams | 6'7, 323 pounds | Offensive tackle | Ohio State



so, if the Chiefs were bent on OL in the second, which guy would you want?

I'll take Glenn then Osemele to replace Lilja if they must draft O-line.

Dicky McElephant
04-27-2012, 12:26 PM
Osemele

ChiTown
04-27-2012, 12:27 PM
15. Jonathan Martin | 6'6, 305 pounds | Offensive tackle | Stanford
16. Peter Konz | 6'5, 313 pounds | Center | Wisconsin
25. Cordy Glenn | 6'5 1/2, 346 pounds | Tackle/guard | Georgia
40. Kelechi Osemele | 6'5 3/8, 333 pounds | Tackle/guard | Iowa State
49. Amini Silatolu | 6'3, 324 pounds | Tackle/guard | Midwestern State
50. Mike Adams | 6'7, 323 pounds | Offensive tackle | Ohio State



so, if the Chiefs were bent on OL in the second, which guy would you want?

Cordy Glenn at OG

Epic Fail 007
04-27-2012, 12:29 PM
Wow that's a bit of a stretch don't you think?

I don't know who's white & black on here. Don't really care to know.

For the record, I'm excited about the Poe pick but obviously have question marks about how good he will be. But I'm excited about having a man with those skills anchor the NT spot... And I'm white FYI.

Im going off fb if you follow pride or something like that you see some of the same comments you see here. All white.

the Talking Can
04-27-2012, 12:31 PM
15. Jonathan Martin | 6'6, 305 pounds | Offensive tackle | Stanford
16. Peter Konz | 6'5, 313 pounds | Center | Wisconsin
25. Cordy Glenn | 6'5 1/2, 346 pounds | Tackle/guard | Georgia
40. Kelechi Osemele | 6'5 3/8, 333 pounds | Tackle/guard | Iowa State
49. Amini Silatolu | 6'3, 324 pounds | Tackle/guard | Midwestern State
50. Mike Adams | 6'7, 323 pounds | Offensive tackle | Ohio State



so, if the Chiefs were bent on OL in the second, which guy would you want?

1. Glenn for versatility (could be day 1 starter)
2. Osemele (everyone seems to like him)
3. Silatolu (sounds like an animal)
4. Martin
5. Konz (appears hudson is a center)
6. Adams ( motivational issues)

jspchief
04-27-2012, 12:31 PM
Osemele I swear left the field injured every single game he played. He always seemed to come back in, but it makes me wonder about toughness.

Bowser
04-27-2012, 12:41 PM
I find it very funny that all the smart ass white people are the only ones saying negative things about the poe pick. I have not seen any black people saying anything negative. And Im white saying this. Im white and I love the pick . He will eat up blockers which will make the whole defense better.
I'd ask what the fuck is wrong with you, but I've got shit to do later and don't have all day.

SNR
04-27-2012, 12:44 PM
I find it very funny that all the smart ass white people are the only ones saying negative things about the poe pick. I have not seen any black people saying anything negative. And Im white saying this. Im white and I love the pick . He will eat up blockers which will make the whole defense better.
Racism when it comes to judging prospects = "RGIII is nothing more than a RB with an average arm"

Getting pissed about taking a NT who doesn't fucking know how to play football is not racism.

Epic Fail 007
04-27-2012, 12:46 PM
I'd ask what the **** is wrong with you, but I've got shit to do later and don't have all day.
Lets see Im sick of the stupid fucking negative people around here.

Chiefnj2
04-27-2012, 12:47 PM
Am I a racist if I want KC to still take Chapman to play NT?

the Talking Can
04-27-2012, 12:48 PM
Lets see Im sick of the stupid ****ing negative people around here.

and we all want you to kill yourself....win-win baby

ChiefMojo
04-27-2012, 12:51 PM
Personally I would take Peter Konz.

keg in kc
04-27-2012, 12:53 PM
1. Glenn for versatility (could be day 1 starter)
2. Osemele (everyone seems to like him)
3. Silatolu (sounds like an animal)
4. Martin
5. Konz (appears hudson is a center)
6. Adams ( motivational issues)Agree.

Epic Fail 007
04-27-2012, 12:53 PM
Racism when it comes to judging prospects = "RGIII is nothing more than a RB with an average arm"

Getting pissed about taking a NT who doesn't ****ing know how to play football is not racism.

Who says he can`t play football idiot? If we would not of taken him pittsburgh would of . And the whole rg3 the was bs try to get a reaction. And well it worked huh your still talking about it,lol. FYI I love rg3.

SNR
04-27-2012, 12:58 PM
Who says he can`t play football idiot?
Would you like a list? This could take awhile.

Epic Fail 007
04-27-2012, 01:00 PM
Would you like a list? This could take awhile.

You mean the bs reports by media sources trying to dig for a story,lol.

Chief Roundup
04-27-2012, 01:08 PM
Coby Fleener TE
Ben Jones C
Andre Branch OLB
Cordy Glenn OT
Jonathan Martin OT

Chief Faithful
04-27-2012, 01:11 PM
In order of preference:
Rnd 2 - Konz, Glenn or Osemele
Rd 3 - Stephen Hill, Quick or Osweiler

J Diddy
04-27-2012, 01:12 PM
Am I a racist if I want KC to still take Chapman to play NT?

Racist? Nah

Unrealistic? Probably

J Diddy
04-27-2012, 01:14 PM
Wow that's a bit of a stretch don't you think?

I don't know who's white & black on here. Don't really care to know.

For the record, I'm excited about the Poe pick but obviously have question marks about how good he will be. But I'm excited about having a man with those skills anchor the NT spot... And I'm white FYI.

You're night white. You're just the opposite of black. The anti-black. Wait.

You're anti black?

Racist!

Chief Faithful
04-27-2012, 01:15 PM
The Chiefs, under Pioli, do not draft Wisconsin linemen. It's a totally different scheme than we run.

If we did, we'd probably just bench Konz for the year, like we do with every other non-1st round OL.

You might be right, but I love his flexibility. Both Konz and Hudson have the mobility and size to play LG and experience to play C. The other OL that is appealing is Osemele because he could play either G or T. I like Glenn, but I don't think he has the same flexibility.

milkman
04-27-2012, 01:18 PM
You might be right, but I love his flexibility. Both Konz and Hudson have the mobility and size to play LG and experience to play C. The other OL that is appealing is Osemele because he could play either G or T. I like Glenn, but I don't think he has the same flexibility.

What?

Glen can play either guard or tackle spot.

Epic Fail 007
04-27-2012, 01:18 PM
and we all want you to kill yourself....win-win baby

Come up with something new you lame idiot.

Chief Faithful
04-27-2012, 01:41 PM
What?

Glen can play either guard or tackle spot.

That is what the current line says, which I think is a creation of his agent, but I also know Glenn as a Senior was considered a "resurrected" player that had a hard time with tackle. I just don't have confidence in his ability to handle multiple positions in the NFL. Scouting reports I've read consider him to be an average athlete that works best in tight areas and doesn't have good knee bend (stands too upright). From what I've seen and read I would not call Glenn flexible instead I would say he can only flourish in the NFL in the right situation.

You and I will just have to disagree on Glenn.

whoman69
04-27-2012, 01:43 PM
Am I a racist if I want KC to still take Chapman to play NT?

Nope, just dopey for wanting to waste one of those picks.

Frosty
04-27-2012, 01:45 PM
That is what the current line says, which I think is a creation of his agent, but I also know Glenn as a Senior was considered a "resurrected" player that had a hard time with tackle. I just don't have confidence in his ability to handle multiple positions in the NFL. Scouting reports I've read consider him to be an average athlete that works best in tight areas and doesn't have good knee bend (stands too upright). From what I've seen and read I would not call Glenn flexible instead I would say he can only flourish in the NFL in the right situation.

You and I will just have to disagree on Glenn.

I think Glenn can play guard and be a backup right tackle. I don't think LT would be his strong suit.

I know Mayock talked him up at RT at the senior Bowl, FWIW.

ChiefMojo
04-27-2012, 01:48 PM
I like Konz as the pick. With that said I like Glenn the most but believe he will be gone for sure when we pick at #44. The Iowa State OG/T is a strong possibility also since he is a OG/T. With Glenn off the board, think Konz is the best prospect to play OG and also depth at C.

O.city
04-27-2012, 01:49 PM
If we take Konz, it's to play Center. No more of this drafting a guy and moving him around. He played C in college, leave him there.



That said, I don't think Konz really fits what they want in an OL, from a style of play angle.

Hoover
04-27-2012, 01:54 PM
Osemele I swear left the field injured every single game he played. He always seemed to come back in, but it makes me wonder about toughness.
THIS

I'll take Glenn, Silatolu, or Konz

ChiefMojo
04-27-2012, 02:03 PM
Actually Konz is perfect with our IZ/OZ offensive line scheme.

Hoover
04-27-2012, 02:06 PM
I would prefer a T/G prospect because it would provide us with the depth we need, but if we can't get someone that fits that bill I think a center makes the most sense.

Fat Elvis
04-27-2012, 02:07 PM
Glenn or Konz in the 2nd; Brandon Taylor in the 3rd

the Talking Can
04-27-2012, 02:10 PM
someone posted this quote in another thread

In Pioli's interview with Looney he says:
"We've still got positions we want competition and depth and want to get younger... we are going to surprise you with some of these players"


trying to figure out who pioli thinks would surprise us...

DTLB58
04-27-2012, 02:10 PM
OL, OL,

Starters:

76 Albert, Branden T 6-5 316 27 5 Virginia
73 Asamoah, Jon OL 6-4 305 23 3 Illinois
61 Hudson, Rodney C 6-2 299 22 2 Florida State
65 Lilja, Ryan G 6-2 290 30 9 Kansas State
Winston, Eric T 6-7 302 28 7 Miami (Fla.)

Backups:
60 Bruggeman, Rob C 6-4 293 26 1 Iowa
66 Harris, Darryl G 6-4 300 27 1 Mississippi
70 Mims, David OL 6-8 335 23 1 Virginia Union

Scary. :doh!:

milkman
04-27-2012, 02:14 PM
That is what the current line says, which I think is a creation of his agent, but I also know Glenn as a Senior was considered a "resurrected" player that had a hard time with tackle. I just don't have confidence in his ability to handle multiple positions in the NFL. Scouting reports I've read consider him to be an average athlete that works best in tight areas and doesn't have good knee bend (stands too upright). From what I've seen and read I would not call Glenn flexible instead I would say he can only flourish in the NFL in the right situation.

You and I will just have to disagree on Glenn.

I think that's reasonable, and fully understand your misgivings.

In any event, I would be happy with any of the names you mentioned.

Hoover
04-27-2012, 02:16 PM
someone posted this quote in another thread




trying to figure out who pioli thinks would surprise us...
I think it means safety, WR, or DE, or OT

SNR
04-27-2012, 02:18 PM
You mean the bs reports by media sources trying to dig for a story,lol.How about his fucking former coach, who said the guy wasn't taught how to play very well at Memphis.

That a good enough source for you?

the Talking Can
04-27-2012, 02:19 PM
I think it means safety, WR, or DE, or OT

i think wr too, for some reason

Tackle i think is just a legitimate need

SNR
04-27-2012, 02:21 PM
Actually Konz is perfect with our IZ/OZ offensive line scheme.How?

Look, I love Konz. As a Badger fan, I loved what he did for our offense. Montee Ball owes him 30% royalties on his NFL contract next year. But he's a straight-ahead, hit-a-guy-in-the-mouth mauler. He rarely ever pulled, and Wisconsin's line scheme never tried to get him out so he could block in space.

He's not at all what our line is looking for. If he is, then he'll have to be re-coached and re-tooled. Which I'm fine with, he can still do it. He's very talented. But it's not going to be an immediate fit.

SNR
04-27-2012, 02:25 PM
someone posted this quote in another thread




trying to figure out who pioli thinks would surprise us...QB, probably. Pioli is so misinformed he thinks the fans love Matt Cassel just as much as he does

Urc Burry
04-27-2012, 03:07 PM
someone posted this quote in another thread




trying to figure out who pioli thinks would surprise us...

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center/videos/Scott-Pioli-Post-Draft-Interview/997f5e30-b546-4337-a741-1a8924787d1b
It start's around 3:10.

My first thought was Jenkins, Upshaw, or one of these WR's. Because he says their is still a lot of talent on the board. But I guess it could also refer to a guard

Dmello12
04-27-2012, 03:13 PM
Glenn> Silatolu> Konz

keg in kc
04-27-2012, 03:17 PM
someone posted this quote in another thread




trying to figure out who pioli thinks would surprise us...Shit, we get "surprised" every year. Don't tempt fate.

saphojunkie
04-27-2012, 03:32 PM
Everyone get emotionally prepared for the fact that we are drafting a WR in the 2nd round. My guess is Pioli has no intention of keeping Bowe around for another contract.

KevB
04-27-2012, 03:41 PM
Everyone get emotionally prepared for the fact that we are drafting a WR in the 2nd round. My guess is Pioli has no intention of keeping Bowe around for another contract.

I tend to agree. I am guessing Jeffrey if he is there. Similar to Bowe. I would prefer Hill to add speed to the offense, but he will probably be gone.

keg in kc
04-27-2012, 03:50 PM
Hopefully whoever it is, they end up being as effective as the picks the last two years (all slamming of McCluster aside) and not the next Alex Magee.

Whosurdaddy
04-27-2012, 03:54 PM
I'm all for Alshon Jeffery. I think he has Pro-Bowl ability.

Would be happy with the Guard from Georgia or Upshaw as well.

saphojunkie
04-27-2012, 03:59 PM
I tend to agree. I am guessing Jeffrey if he is there. Similar to Bowe. I would prefer Hill to add speed to the offense, but he will probably be gone.

I'm right there with you. I want Stephen Hill, but I'm expecting to get Jeffrey.

St. Louis has three picks out of the first 13 in the second round. Maybe we could send Bowe and a third to them for two of those picks?

We'd have three picks then, and could go Upshaw, Jeffrey, and Konz/Glenn/Allen.

BigChiefFan
04-27-2012, 04:02 PM
HB Lamar Miller is still out there, as well. I like where we are at in the second round. We'll be getting a 1st round "cusp" player. I mentioned 12 guys that should go in the top of the 2nd round, that I'd be happy with as picks, so we're sitting pretty.

Dmello12
04-27-2012, 04:06 PM
there's so much talent left on the board right now

Frosty
04-27-2012, 04:10 PM
I still want Osweiler in the 2nd but would like it even more if they could trade back a bit (but stay in from of the Broncos' second pick) and take him while picking up some extra ammo to get more o-line and safety later.

O.city
04-27-2012, 04:12 PM
Get the best oline prospect available here, take Taylor in the third, Pead in the fourth and lets go from there.

Count Alex's Losses
04-27-2012, 04:22 PM
i think wr too, for some reason

Tackle i think is just a legitimate need

I bet it's a WR.

Just because Pioli is an arrogant fuck who is trying to work one over on Dwayne Bowe.

KCrockaholic
04-27-2012, 04:26 PM
I'd be ok with Brian Quick if we got him in the right spot. 3rd. I like him a lot.

Count Alex's Losses
04-27-2012, 04:28 PM
I'm all for Alshon Jeffery. I think he has Pro-Bowl ability.

Would be happy with the Guard from Georgia or Upshaw as well.

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

Our WR corps is set in stone. Bowe, Baldwin and Breaston leave no room for Jeffery to see any PT, especially since we'll be splitting out Moeaki and Charles - and yes, even DMC - quite a bit.

Taking a guy in the 2nd would be stupid and basically would be an arrogant move to try and get leverage over Bowe.

Plus, Jeffery is a fat motherfucker.

https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQLAWYVmrHZZbt_8qqpDVkdMb1KVAbNO7IU1BJhvOSbsj-CVUfu

I don't want to see us taking a WR before the 4th.

O.city
04-27-2012, 04:30 PM
Only wr's I want the Chiefs to look at are the guys from Arkansas in the 4 or 5 round.

Bewbies
04-27-2012, 04:37 PM
Can we draft someone that breaks his fist on Cassel's face here?

Frosty
04-27-2012, 04:37 PM
Only wr's I want the Chiefs to look at are the guys from Arkansas in the 4 or 5 round.

I wouldn't mind Criner, though I'm not sure where he is supposed to go.

saphojunkie
04-27-2012, 05:00 PM
LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

Our WR corps is set in stone. Bowe, Baldwin and Breaston leave no room for Jeffery to see any PT, especially since we'll be splitting out Moeaki and Charles - and yes, even DMC - quite a bit.

Taking a guy in the 2nd would be stupid and basically would be an arrogant move to try and get leverage over Bowe.

Plus, Jeffery is a fat mother****er.

https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQLAWYVmrHZZbt_8qqpDVkdMb1KVAbNO7IU1BJhvOSbsj-CVUfu

I don't want to see us taking a WR before the 4th.

I'll let Pioli know, but I don't think it'll do much good...

whoman69
04-27-2012, 05:08 PM
Can we draft someone that breaks his fist on Cassel's face here?

Thomas Jones fight night?

BigChiefFan
04-27-2012, 05:11 PM
Only wr's I want the Chiefs to look at are the guys from Arkansas in the 4 or 5 round.

At WR, Quick from Appalachian State is a good consideration in the 3rd round and McNutt may be there in the 5th or 6th round.

I also like Hill or Jeffery tonight in the 2nd round, if the other players I mentioned earlier are already gone.

O.city
04-27-2012, 05:12 PM
I'd like for us to have a pure speed guy like Joe Adams.

milkman
04-27-2012, 05:20 PM
I have no interest in a WR in this draft at all.

Tuckdaddy
04-27-2012, 05:25 PM
If by some miracle Upshaw is there you take him and don't think twice. He won't be there but if he was and we pass. Big mistake. You can never have too many bad ass d-lineman in this league.

Tuckdaddy
04-27-2012, 05:25 PM
I'd like for us to have a pure speed guy like Joe Adams.

Now your talking baby!

BigChiefFan
04-27-2012, 05:26 PM
I have no interest in a WR in this draft at all.We really need one, though. I wouldn't put it as high priority, but it needs addressed.
Add the uncertainty of Bowe's future, Baldwin's question marks, and we really don't have a 4th WR, let alone 5-6, that most teams keep on their roster.

We could get by without addressing it this year, but I see a need there.

Count Alex's Losses
04-27-2012, 05:26 PM
I have no interest in a WR in this draft at all.

We could use someone as depth.

Brock
04-27-2012, 05:37 PM
I'm betting TE.

KevB
04-27-2012, 05:38 PM
At WR, Quick from Appalachian State is a good consideration in the 3rd round and McNutt may be there in the 5th or 6th round.

I also like Hill or Jeffery tonight in the 2nd round, if the other players I mentioned earlier are already gone.

Lots of buzz that Rams are taking Quick at 33

beer bacon
04-27-2012, 05:41 PM
Ronnie Hillman in the third would be nice.

ChiefMojo
04-27-2012, 05:41 PM
The only WR I would take a flier on is 6'0", 210-pound (4.6) Jordan White from Western Michigan in the 7th round. Just to secure him from everyone else in the UDFA market. Then again we showed so much interest in him, he may go to KC anyways when it comes to UDFA.

White doesn't have the greatest speed but runs tremendous routes and has great hands. I believe led the nation in catching.

BossChief
04-27-2012, 06:02 PM
Cordy Glenn
Peter Konz
Courtney Upshaw
Janoris Jenkins
Jon Martin

I'd be happy with any of these guys.

Dmello12
04-27-2012, 06:08 PM
quick is gone.. so much for your third rounder

BigChiefFan
04-27-2012, 06:24 PM
I never saw Quick going before the third, but he obviously has talent for the Rams to take him this high.

Alot of good fits still left for us, though. I like HB Lamar Miller, DE Jerel Worthy, or DE Still, if available.

Psyko Tek
04-27-2012, 06:52 PM
we draft safeties and cornerbacks
no qbs
no ol
nothing we need that bad, just things to scare denver

pilo(sp) needs to take his talents to south beach with carl
I likes haley better than mister jolly rancher

DenverDanChiefsFan
04-27-2012, 06:55 PM
Why is NFLN so far behind? LaCanfora announced our 2nd pick over 6 minutes ago.