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ChiefRocka
04-26-2012, 10:09 PM
Worthy, Still, Upshaw, Randle, Glenn, Konz....

Mr_Tomahawk
04-26-2012, 10:09 PM
Q

Mecca
04-26-2012, 10:10 PM
I'd go with Upshaw, a 3rd rusher with versatility would be nice.

Simply Red
04-26-2012, 10:10 PM
i still say trade the remaining for Drew Brees

chiefs1111
04-26-2012, 10:11 PM
Upshaw would be nice.

O.city
04-26-2012, 10:11 PM
I like Upshaw alot



I'd think about trading up for Konz.

KCrockaholic
04-26-2012, 10:11 PM
Upshaw. Stephen Hill anyone?

Cordy Glenn.

Simply Red
04-26-2012, 10:12 PM
or try to get Peyton for Cassel somehow, maybe throw in Palko, or something. Could we get RG3 somehow, if we were crafty, maybe throw in Casey Printers?

DaKCMan AP
04-26-2012, 10:15 PM
Janoris Jenkins
Courtney Upshaw
Cordy Glenn
Coby Fleener

Omaha
04-26-2012, 10:15 PM
or try to get Peyton for Cassel somehow, maybe throw in Palko, or something. Could we get RG3 somehow, if we were crafty, maybe throw in Casey Printers?

Too late. McDaniels is gone.

O.city
04-26-2012, 10:16 PM
Don't really want Fleener, i'd rather grab an TE later in the draft.

Nightfyre
04-26-2012, 10:16 PM
Andre Branch

milkman
04-26-2012, 10:17 PM
I can see a scenario where the Chiefs trade down in the 2nd round, and everyone is going to pissed off because there's going to be someone there that everyone wants.

Mr_Tomahawk
04-26-2012, 10:17 PM
Oz.

O.city
04-26-2012, 10:18 PM
Forgot about Andre Branch.

milkman
04-26-2012, 10:18 PM
I can also see the second round as the round in which Pioli addresses the guard position, after he trades down.

Simply Red
04-26-2012, 10:18 PM
I can see a scenario where the Chiefs trade down in the 2nd round, and everyone is going to pissed off because there's going to be someone there that everyone wants.

did you like the pick Milk?

ILChief
04-26-2012, 10:19 PM
Don't really want Fleener, i'd rather grab an TE later in the draft.

Why take a tight end at all

ForeverChiefs58
04-26-2012, 10:20 PM
or try to get Peyton for Cassel somehow, maybe throw in Palko, or something. Could we get RG3 somehow, if we were crafty, maybe throw in Casey Printers?

great idea. I think we could throw in Brian Shay just to sweeten the deal.

milkman
04-26-2012, 10:25 PM
did you like the pick Milk?

No.

Micjones
04-26-2012, 10:26 PM
OLB Andre Branch
OLB Ronnell Lewis
G Amini Silatolu
G Kelechi Osemele
G Jeff Allen
QB Kirk Cousins

I wouldn't mind a trade down to net another low R2 or high R3 though.

KCrockaholic
04-26-2012, 10:31 PM
The good news it, there's still a lot of talent left.

Chiefaholic
04-26-2012, 11:04 PM
1.Courtney Upshaw

2.Mike Adams

3.Andre Branch

DTLB58
04-26-2012, 11:07 PM
Why take a tight end at all

Yea, really. It's like the obligatory FB pick. Waste.

O.city
04-26-2012, 11:09 PM
We need some Tackle depth and a Center on the oline.

Okie_Apparition
04-26-2012, 11:15 PM
Poe tent stake

Chieftain58
04-26-2012, 11:35 PM
Qb

aturnis
04-26-2012, 11:41 PM
I'd go with Upshaw, a 3rd rusher with versatility would be nice.

With his off field question marks? Grabbing his girlfriend by the hair and god know what else?

aturnis
04-26-2012, 11:42 PM
Qb

The only QB I have any interest in is Kellen Moore. Late in the draft. I'd rather give him a look than take one of the typical shitty players we take in the 6th/7th round...

aturnis
04-26-2012, 11:44 PM
OLB Andre Branch
OLB Ronnell Lewis
G Amini Silatolu
G Kelechi Osemele
G Jeff Allen
QB Kirk Cousins

I wouldn't mind a trade down to net another low R2 or high R3 though.

teams were moving up for 4th and 5th round picks. I don't think we'll net a 2nd or 3rd trading down in the 2nd.

KevB
04-27-2012, 12:13 AM
Branch/Curry/Still on D
Silatolu/Konz/Massie on O

I'm also intrigued by Alshon Jeffrey. Obviously not a huge need position, but that guy is a playmaker. Offense needs to get better, and he'd add yet another big target who can flat go get an errant pass.

BigChiefFan
04-27-2012, 12:30 AM
Alot of really good players left. DE Still, OLBer Courtney Upshaw, OT Jonathan Martin, WR Alshon Jeffery, OLBer Andre Branch, C Peter Konz, DE Jerel Worthy, WR Stephen Hill, HB Lamar Miller, OT Mike Adams, OT/OG Cordy Glenn, , TE Coby Fleener, WR Reuben Randle...we should end up with one of them.

ChiefsCountry
04-27-2012, 01:02 AM
Here is my revamped draft for the Chiefs:

2. Courtney Upshaw, LB, Alabama
3. Ben Jones, C, Georgia
4. Aaron Henry, S, Wisconsin
5. Andrew Datko, OT, Florida State
6. Adam Gettis, G, Iowa
7. Brandon Bolden, RB, Mississippi
7. James Hanna, TE, Oklahoma

BossChief
04-27-2012, 01:05 AM
Here is my revamped draft for the Chiefs:

2. Courtney Upshaw, LB, Alabama
3. Ben Jones, C, Georgia
4. Aaron Henry, S, Wisconsin
5. Andrew Datko, OT, Florida State
6. Adam Gettis, G, Iowa
7. Brandon Bolden, RB, Mississippi
7. James Hanna, TE, Oklahoma

I like it.

It's got a good beat and it's easy to dance to.

Dmello12
04-27-2012, 01:09 AM
:thumb:Amini Silatolu!!! he should be the pick

Chiefshrink
04-27-2012, 01:18 AM
Upshaw. Stephen Hill anyone?

Cordy Glenn.

A hell yeah for all 3 especially Stephen Hill but the Rams will take him unfortunately.

KCrockaholic
04-27-2012, 01:20 AM
Here is my revamped draft for the Chiefs:

2. Courtney Upshaw, LB, Alabama
3. Ben Jones, C, Georgia
4. Aaron Henry, S, Wisconsin
5. Andrew Datko, OT, Florida State
6. Adam Gettis, G, Iowa
7. Brandon Bolden, RB, Mississippi
7. James Hanna, TE, Oklahoma

Here's what I'd do

2. Upshaw
3. Brandon Taylor, LSU, S
4. Cyrus Gray, HB, TX A&M
5. Adam Gettis, G, Iowa
6. Asa Jackson, CB, Cal Poly
7. Kellen Moore, QB, Boise St (why the hell not)
7. Josh Oglesby, OT, Wisconsin

Just what I'd throw together. But of course it's difficult to tell who will be available at what point.

KCrockaholic
04-27-2012, 01:23 AM
IF Upshaw isn't available. Then I'd also LOVE for us to take Cordy Glenn. He moves really well for a big guy, and he can play LT or LG. He did a terrific job for Georgia. I had him ranked as a Mid-late 1st round guy.

SNR
04-27-2012, 03:10 AM
Lamar Miller
Coby Fleener
Peter Konz (I'm still iffy if he can adapt to our zone scheme)
Jonathan Martin (insane that he's still available in the 2nd round)

Realistically I'm far more interested in the 3rd round. I REALLY want one of these three safeties:

Iloka
Taylor
Trumaine Johnson

If we have to spend our 2nd rounder to get one of those guys, I'd be pretty fine with that.

SNR
04-27-2012, 03:10 AM
Also, doesn't Upshaw have huge character flags? Like doesn't he hate Jews and beat women or something?

ChiefsNow
04-27-2012, 03:16 AM
I would like Osweiler as late as we could safely get him. 4th round? I doubt he falls that far.

SNR
04-27-2012, 03:20 AM
In fact, I think we should take Trumaine Johnson in the 2nd. The Patriots will almost undoubtedly snatch him before us if we don't.

Nightfyre
04-27-2012, 07:45 AM
Fuck trumaine johnson. Talk about an over-hyped bad apple.

BigChiefFan
04-27-2012, 10:51 AM
2nd rounders, we should land one of these guys...

DE Still
OLBer Courtney Upshaw
OT Jonathan Martin
WR Alshon Jeffery
OLBer Andre Branch
DE Jerel Worthy
WR Stephen Hill
HB Lamar Miller
OT Mike Adams
OT/OG Cordy Glenn
TE Coby Fleener
WR Reuben Randle

Dicky McElephant
04-27-2012, 10:53 AM
Walterfootball.com put out their 2nd and 3rd round re-draft.

Walter's Draft:


2. Amini Silatolu, G/OT, Midwestern State
The Chiefs passed on David DeCastro, but they can grab their guard here.

3. George Iloka, S, Boise State
When asked in a recent interview what the second-most important position is in football (behind quarterback), Romeo Crennel said: "safety." It sounds crazy, but safeties are very important in his defensive scheme. He likes using three on the field at most times.

Charlie Campbell's Mock:


2. Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson
The Chiefs signed Kevin Boss, but that won't prevent them from taking more talent at the position. Between Boss, Tony Moeaki and Allen, Kansas City has a trio of effective tight ends.

Allen, an early-entry, improved his draft stock this year, but it could have gone even higher if Clemson had given him more opportunities. However, he remained simply underutilized. Allen amassed 50 receptions for 598 yards and eight touchdowns in the regular season. He was a dangerous red-zone weapon for the Tigers. Allen's speed catches defenses by surprise, and he has excellent agility to make tough catches.

The 6-foot-3, 255-pounder was a solid blocker for Andre Ellington and Jamie Harper in 2010. Allen was also a receiving threat with 33 receptions for 373 yards and one touchdown. He had an impressive performance against North Carolina and its quality linebacking corps, making seven receptions for 55 yards.

Allen had a disappointing Combine with a 40 time of 4.89, but he showed well in the bench press (27 reps) and field-receiving drills. Reports were that Allen performed well at his pro day.

3. Brock Osweiler, QB, Arizona State
The Chiefs grab a quarterback to groom for a year or two behind Matt Cassel. Osweiler visited Kansas City before the draft.

Osweiler (6-6, 242) is big-armed pocket passer who has surprising mobility. The former basketball player has good athletic ability for being so tall. Looking at him, one would think he would be a statue in the pocket, but that is definitely not the case as he is a good scrambler.

As a junior this year, Osweiler completed 63 percent of his passes for 4,036 yards with 26 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. He also ran for 298 yards and three touchdowns. Osweiler set the school record for yards, completions and attempts. In 2010, he had only two starts, but played well, throwing for 797 yards and five touchdowns with zero interceptions, while also running for 168 yards and a score.

Osweiler has real arm strength and the gun to be a starting quarterback in the NFL. However, he is very raw and needs some work. If Osweiler goes to a good coaching staff that can develop him for a few years, he could turn into something. It wouldn't be surprising if Osweiler's stock rises during the lead up to the draft. He should have stayed in school and improved before going pro.

Molitoth
04-27-2012, 11:18 AM
3. Brock Osweiler, QB, Arizona State
The Chiefs grab a quarterback to groom for a year or two behind Matt Cassel.

Lets hope to god 1 year, and not 2. F*ck you in the face Matt Cassel.

boogblaster
04-27-2012, 11:27 AM
Upshaw or Osweiler .....

ChiTown
04-27-2012, 11:29 AM
Upshaw or Osweiler .....

Upshaw would be good with me.......

SNR
04-27-2012, 11:31 AM
Fuck trumaine johnson. Talk about an over-hyped bad apple.Overhyped? The dude's been getting no hype at all.

He's big and covers guys like a motherfucker. Move him to free safety, let him back up Lewis for a year. Our little TE problem would pretty much be solved.

Dicky McElephant
04-27-2012, 11:32 AM
I'll take Osweiler and Taylor/Iloka.

ChiefMojo
04-27-2012, 01:14 PM
I like Taylor/Iloka but don't you think they will be there in the 3rd Pestilence? I just think it would be to tough to pass up on the OL that are available.

whoman69
04-27-2012, 01:19 PM
Why take a tight end at all

Because we still have O'Connell on the roster. You also have to plan for the possibility that Moeaki goes down again.

ChiefRocka
04-27-2012, 01:20 PM
Because we still have O'Connell on the roster. You also have to plan for the possibility that Moeaki goes down again.

Boss ?!?!?

Frosty
04-27-2012, 01:20 PM
I'll take Osweiler and Taylor/Iloka.

This. They can get a guard later.

I also really don't see them taking a TE but this is Pioli we are talking about, so they'll probably trade up and take Fleener. :rolleyes:

Coogs
04-27-2012, 01:23 PM
This. They can get a guard later.


But there a couple of O-linemen that could be ideal for what we need. Starting Gaurd potential, and backup for both of the T positions. Be pretty hard to pass up if they are available. Lilja could be back up guard, and slide into the lineup if Glenn or Osemele have to move out to relace Winston or Albert.

ChiefRocka
04-27-2012, 01:25 PM
Tackle and safety depth is a huge need in this draft.

Frosty
04-27-2012, 01:27 PM
But there a couple of O-linemen that could be ideal for what we need. Starting Gaurd potential, and backup for both of the T positions. Be pretty hard to pass up if they are available.

True. Mike Adams or Cordy Glenn would be hard to pass up considering that there are no decent tackles behind the starters. I would rather gamble on the potential of Osweiler, though. With Weeden going in the first round, I think Osweiler has bumped up to the top of the 2nd and you have to take him here if you want him.

whoman69
04-27-2012, 01:29 PM
I think Upshaw will be gone by the time our pick gets there. I think the same with Konz, but not as certain. Fleener has to be a consideration. Brandon Taylor would add a lot of athleticism to the secondary.

suds79
04-27-2012, 01:31 PM
I think Upshaw will be gone by the time our pick gets there. I think the same with Konz, but not as certain. Fleener has to be a consideration. Brandon Taylor would add a lot of athleticism to the secondary.

I'm buying all the mocks I'm seeing that has Luck getting his best buddy in Fleener.

He'll be gone.

Hoover
04-27-2012, 01:34 PM
I'm all about taking DE's, LBs, DBs, OLine, and RB

Just say no to everything else.


The problem with taking a TE is how or why would be carry 3 TEs on our roaster?

Same goes with the QB position. Why take a developmental QB when we already have two on the roster? What is the difference between Stanzi last year and Osweiler this year? Makes no sense, and make us make poor roster decisions.

ChiefMojo
04-27-2012, 01:34 PM
I've already seen multiple 2nd round mocks having KC taking Peter Konz. One I saw with Iowa State OG/T.

Dicky McElephant
04-27-2012, 01:35 PM
Rams will go WR or OL.
Colts will go with Fleener.
Ravens will go Upshaw or Konz.

ChiefMojo
04-27-2012, 01:35 PM
I've seen Ravens with Cordy Glenn as well.

Coogs
04-27-2012, 01:37 PM
I would rather gamble on the potential of Osweiler, though. With Weeden going in the first round, I think Osweiler has bumped up to the top of the 2nd and you have to take him here if you want him.

I was all or nothing on Tannehill. I like Stanzi better than anything that is left.

royr17
04-27-2012, 01:38 PM
Because we still have O'Connell on the roster. You also have to plan for the possibility that Moeaki goes down again.

Thats where Kevin Boss comes into play. Tight End is one position there really isnt a real need for. If mo goes down you got Boss, Maneri will be a blocking TE, and they can always bring back O'Connel if necessary even though he sucks.

Hoover
04-27-2012, 01:38 PM
I was all or nothing on Tannehill. I like Stanzi better than anything that is left.
Me too

Frosty
04-27-2012, 01:39 PM
Rams will go WR or OL.
Colts will go with Fleener.
Ravens will go Upshaw or Konz.

i think there is going to be a run on WRs.

I like Stanzi better than anything that is left.

I don't. I would take the potential of Osweiler or Foles over Stanzi. I do think Stanzi is better than Cousins or any of the late round guys.

Coogs
04-27-2012, 01:40 PM
I don't. I would take the potential of Osweiler or Foles over Stanzi. I do think Stanzi is better than Cousins or any of the late round guys.

Fair enough!

suds79
04-27-2012, 01:42 PM
I don't. I would take the potential of Osweiler or Foles over Stanzi. I do think Stanzi is better than Cousins or any of the late round guys.


Same.

Hoover
04-27-2012, 01:42 PM
It think Cassel is going to get killed by Mario Williams and Stanzi will take over and never look back.

Hoover
04-27-2012, 01:43 PM
It would be great for the Chiefs if there was a run on WR's to start the 2nd.

Chief Faithful
04-27-2012, 01:44 PM
I've seen Ravens with Cordy Glenn as well.

I think Glenn would be a good fit for the Ravens especially as a G.

Chief Faithful
04-27-2012, 01:46 PM
2nd rounders, we should land one of these guys...

DE Still
OLBer Courtney Upshaw
OT Jonathan Martin
WR Alshon Jeffery
OLBer Andre Branch
DE Jerel Worthy
WR Stephen Hill
HB Lamar Miller
OT Mike Adams
OT/OG Cordy Glenn
TE Coby Fleener
WR Reuben Randle

Stephen Hill is one of the players I really like, but you don't think he will make it to the 3rd round?

Frosty
04-27-2012, 01:49 PM
Stephen Hill is one of the players I really like, but you don't think he will make it to the 3rd round?

I think he will be gone before the Chiefs pick in the 2nd.

BigChiefFan
04-27-2012, 02:22 PM
Stephen Hill is one of the players I really like, but you don't think he will make it to the 3rd round?
Hill's production wasn't great at the collegiate level, but he has all the intangiables teams loook for in a WR. At 6'4", 215 lbs., he was clocked at 4:28 40YD-that's stellar.

He played at a run-oriented offense, so he'll get a little bit of a pass for his production. He needs to work on his route-running and does struggle at times to bring the ball in, but I have him going in the 2nd round.

SNR
04-27-2012, 02:36 PM
Stephen Hill would be great for us if we wanted our very own home version of Demaryius Thomas

OnTheWarpath58
04-27-2012, 02:43 PM
Is there a kicker available that made 25% of his kicks, but ran a 4.3 40 and benched 35 reps?

SuperChief
04-27-2012, 02:47 PM
Is there a kicker available that made 25% of his kicks, but ran a 4.3 40 and benched 35 reps?

I've never scoffed and laughed at a post at the same time. Bravo.

BigChiefFan
04-27-2012, 02:54 PM
Stephen Hill would be great for us if we wanted our very own home version of Demaryius ThomasIf we could get 32 catches, 551 yards 17.2 avg. and 4 TDs out of our no. 4 WR this season, I'd be ecstatic.

That said, we might have a better prospect available to us, when we pick tonight.

Frosty
04-27-2012, 02:59 PM
Hill's production wasn't great at the collegiate level, but he has all the intangiables teams loook for in a WR. At 6'4", 215 lbs., he was clocked at 4:28 40YD-that's stellar.

Is he the Dontari Poe of WRs?

O.city
04-27-2012, 03:00 PM
I would like to have Upshaw.


I think he's a nasty old time football player who would have a spot on the defense somewhere.

BigChiefFan
04-27-2012, 03:01 PM
Is he the Dontari Poe of WRs?:evil:

DJJasonp
04-27-2012, 03:12 PM
Not sure why so many anti-Tight End comments.

Seemed to work for the pats pretty well.......think of the match-up problems.

But I'm sure there's another McCluster sitting out there waiting for Pioli to really turn our offense up a notch!

DJJasonp
04-27-2012, 03:13 PM
If we could get 32 catches, 551 yards 17.2 avg. and 4 TDs out of our no. 4 WR this season, I'd be ecstatic.

That said, we might have a better prospect available to us, when we pick tonight.

ahem......that would actually require Cassel going through his progressions.......

ct
04-27-2012, 03:21 PM
Cordy Glenn

milkman
04-27-2012, 03:24 PM
Not sure why so many anti-Tight End comments.

Seemed to work for the pats pretty well.......think of the match-up problems.

But I'm sure there's another McCluster sitting out there waiting for Pioli to really turn our offense up a notch!

The anti-TE sentiment comes from the fact that we signed Boss.

O.city
04-27-2012, 03:27 PM
I would rather have a TE, like Hanna from OU. We have a blocking guy and another guy that could be special if he can stay healthy. Go get the next Jimmy Graham if you want a TE.

BigChiefFan
04-27-2012, 03:28 PM
Cordy GlennI concur that's a better pick for us, if he should fall to us. He projects to start and we have bigger vacancy on O-line than at WR. That said, he'll probably already be picked before we're on the clock.

suds79
04-27-2012, 03:29 PM
Cordy Glenn

Would be nice to have a mauler on the line.

DJJasonp
04-27-2012, 03:31 PM
The anti-TE sentiment comes from the fact that we signed Boss.

A guy who averages 29 receptions, 393 yds, and 4 TD's a season...

milkman
04-27-2012, 03:34 PM
I concur that's a better pick for us, if he should fall to us. He projects to start and we have bigger vacancy on O-line than at WR. That said, he'll probably already be picked before we're on the clock.

Keneche Osomele

A guy who averages 29 receptions, 393 yds, and 4 TD's a season...

Yes, but given that we will be a run oriented team, much like the Giants were while he was with them, he fits what this team needs to a "T".

buddha
04-27-2012, 06:58 PM
How about Jeff Allen?

KCDC
04-27-2012, 07:01 PM
Allen is the poor man's Cordy Glenn. We should have gotten Glenn; but, Allen can play most anywhere on the line, so he can be a back up at both tackles. So, he will be useful. It means Hudson is definitely moving to center. They would have taken Konz otherwise.

evolve27
04-27-2012, 07:09 PM
Allen is the poor man's Cordy Glenn. We should have gotten Glenn; but, Allen can play most anywhere on the line, so he can be a back up at both tackles. So, he will be useful. It means Hudson is definitely moving to center. They would have taken Konz otherwise.

NFL.com player review:

OVERVIEW
Allen has been a starter for four years on the offensive line for Illinois. With his size and experience playing on both the right and left sides, he will have good value as a backup at the next level. He has decent athletic ability and strength but knows how to keep defenders from beating him. He is likely worth a sixth- or seventh-round pick.

FUCK!

Bob Dole
04-27-2012, 07:10 PM
Looking at the NFL.com app, they had him projected in round 6-7.
Posted via Mobile Device

ct
04-27-2012, 07:16 PM
Jeff Allen sounds much like Cordy Glenn to me, so I'm cool w/ it. I was thinking Konz when he was there, but obviously they feel we r set w/ Hudson @C. Dunno much about this guy tho...

Simplicity
04-27-2012, 07:33 PM
Lavonte David...