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blazzin311
04-27-2012, 09:18 PM
Here's a list I compiled of the best available players left to draft on Saturday. It's in no particular order other than position. Who do you want, what say you?


Kirk Cousins QB Mich St.
Kellen Moore QB Boise St.
Ryan Lindley QB SDSU
Chandler Harnish QB N. Illinois
Lamar Miller RB Miami
Chris Polk RB Washington
Robert Turbin RB Utah St.
Tauren Poole RB Tennessee
Cyrus Gray RB Texas A&M
Terrance Ganaway RB Baylor
Brandon Bolden RB Ole Miss
Joe Adams WR Arkansas
Devon Wylie WR Fresno St.
Chris Givens WR W. Forest
Marvin Mcnutt WR Iowa
Orson Charles TE Georgia
Ladarius Green TE La Lafayette
James Hanna TE Oklahoma
Bobby Massie OT Ole Miss
Zebrie Sanders OT Florida St.
Brandon Mosley OT Auburn
Tom Compton OT South Dakota
Matt Reynolds OT BYU
Nate Potter OT Boise St.
Andrew Datko OT Florida St.
Adam Gettis OG Iowa
Brandon Washington OG Miami
Luke Nix OG Pittsburgh
Desmond Wynn OG Rutgers
Johnnie Troutman OG Penn State
Ben Jones C Georgia
Philip Blake C Baylor
David Molk C Michigan
Michael Brewster C Ohio St.
William Vlachos C Alabama
Trevor Guyton DE California
Cam Johnson DE Virginia
Jonathan Massaquoi DE Troy
Jared Crick DE Nebraska
Jacquies Smith DE Missouri
Mike Daniels DT Iowa
Josh Chapman DT Alabama
Loni Fangupo DT BYU
Nick Jean-baptiste DT Baylor
Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington
Ronnell Lewis OLB Oklahoma
Nigel Bradham OLB Florida St.
Tank Carder OLB TCU
Keenan Robinson OLB Texas
Darius Fleming OLB Notre Dame
Travis Lewis OLB Oklahoma
Josh Kaddu OLB Oregon
J. Michael-Johnson ILB Nevada
Audie Cole ILB NC State
Emmanuel Acho ILB Texas
Vontaze Burfict ILB Arizona St.
Chris Galippo ILB USC
Brandon Boykin CB Georgia
Josh Norman CB Coast Car.
Ron Brooks CB LSU
Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska
Leonard Johnson CB Iowa St.
Shaun Prater CB Iowa
Chase Minnifield CB Virginia
Coty Sensabaugh CB Clemson
Markelle Martin S Oklahoma St.
Antonio Allen S S. Carolina
George Iloka S Boise St.
Kelcie Mccray S Arkansas St.
Phillip Thomas S Syracuse
Trent Robinson S Mich. St.
Sean Richardson S Vanderbilt
Winston Guy S Kentucky

KevB
04-27-2012, 09:24 PM
Better delete OLineman from this list. If Chiefs go there again there are people on this board that will spontaneously combust.

jd1020
04-27-2012, 09:27 PM
Better delete OLineman from this list. If Chiefs go there again there are people on this board that will spontaneously combust.

I could go for a backup C (not being sarcastic).

Bewbies
04-27-2012, 09:28 PM
If we could grab a backup C, a situational FB and maybe a backup long snapper this draft would be complete.

blazzin311
04-27-2012, 09:30 PM
Better delete OLineman from this list. If Chiefs go there again there are people on this board that will spontaneously combust.

I know what your saying. The only reason I included the Olinemen is that there are at least a few guys on that list that could be had in round 6 or 7 and still allow the Chiefs to look elsewhere in rounds 4 and 5. The only Olinemen that the Chiefs should really consider at this point in my opinion would be perhaps one of the remaining Centers left on the board. Then of course they could use some RB depth, LB depth, some more depth in the Secondary as well. Then again who knows how much any of it will help with Cassel crapping his pants.

ChiefsNow
04-27-2012, 09:31 PM
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blazzin311
04-27-2012, 09:38 PM
If we could grab a backup C, a situational FB and maybe a backup long snapper this draft would be complete.

CHAMPIONSHIP!!! ;)

BossChief
04-27-2012, 09:42 PM
I would LOVE to have a few of these guys with the rest of our picks.

All of them are great values from here out.

Lamar Miller RB Miami
Chris Polk RB Washington
Robert Turbin RB Utah St.
Cyrus Gray RB Texas A&M
Joe Adams WR Arkansas
Marvin Mcnutt WR Iowa
Orson Charles TE Georgia
Bobby Massie OT Ole Miss
Zebrie Sanders OT Florida St.
Nate Potter OT Boise St.
Andrew Datko OT Florida St.
Adam Gettis OG Iowa
Ben Jones C Georgia
Philip Blake C Baylor
David Molk C Michigan
Michael Brewster C Ohio St.
Cam Johnson DE Virginia
Jared Crick DE Nebraska
Mike Daniels DT Iowa
Josh Chapman DT Alabama
Loni Fangupo DT BYU
Nick Jean-baptiste DT Baylor
Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington
Audie Cole ILB NC State
Vontaze Burfict ILB Arizona St.
Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska
Leonard Johnson CB Iowa St.
Shaun Prater CB Iowa
Chase Minnifield CB Virginia
Markelle Martin S Oklahoma St.
Antonio Allen S S. Carolina
George Iloka S Boise St.
Sean Richardson S Vanderbilt
Winston Guy S Kentucky[/QUOTE]

Mr. Laz
04-27-2012, 09:49 PM
Marvin Mcnutt WR Iowa
Ben Jones C Georgia
Josh Chapman DT Alabama
Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska

Bewbies
04-27-2012, 09:51 PM
If we take Chapman in the 4th I'm gonna cry.

Simply Red
04-27-2012, 09:57 PM
Any chance Scott goes after Dog tomorrow?



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Guru
04-27-2012, 10:08 PM
I honestly thought Moore would be gone by the end of round 3.

blazzin311
04-27-2012, 10:19 PM
I would LOVE to have a few of these guys with the rest of our picks.

All of them are great values from here out.

Lamar Miller RB Miami
Chris Polk RB Washington
Robert Turbin RB Utah St.
Cyrus Gray RB Texas A&M
Joe Adams WR Arkansas
Marvin Mcnutt WR Iowa
Orson Charles TE Georgia
Bobby Massie OT Ole Miss
Zebrie Sanders OT Florida St.
Nate Potter OT Boise St.
Andrew Datko OT Florida St.
Adam Gettis OG Iowa
Ben Jones C Georgia
Philip Blake C Baylor
David Molk C Michigan
Michael Brewster C Ohio St.
Cam Johnson DE Virginia
Jared Crick DE Nebraska
Mike Daniels DT Iowa
Josh Chapman DT Alabama
Loni Fangupo DT BYU
Nick Jean-baptiste DT Baylor
Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington
Audie Cole ILB NC State
Vontaze Burfict ILB Arizona St.
Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska
Leonard Johnson CB Iowa St.
Shaun Prater CB Iowa
Chase Minnifield CB Virginia
Markelle Martin S Oklahoma St.
Antonio Allen S S. Carolina
George Iloka S Boise St.
Sean Richardson S Vanderbilt
Winston Guy S Kentucky[/QUOTE]

I know right? Its crazy that there's still that much good talent available. I just hope the Chiefs don't fudge it up too much.


I honestly thought Moore would be gone by the end of round 3.

I still would like to see KC use a late round pick on Moore. Just so he doesn't become a UDFA and sign with some team that I totally despise. Maybe I'm in the minority but I still feel at some point he could be a good starter given the right opportunity.

BigChiefFan
04-27-2012, 10:24 PM
Massaquoi would be a really good fit for us as an OLBer in the 4th round. We need to continue to build the pass-rush, IMO.

I also like Lamar Miller at HB or David Polk at HB and Iloka at FS. It's amazing these players are still left going into the 3rd day of the draft. Still some damn good prospects left. I'm glad we got the O-lineman out of the way and hope we have the opportunity to add one of these players in the 4th or later.

Guru
04-27-2012, 10:28 PM
I know right? Its crazy that there's still that much good talent available. I just hope the Chiefs don't fudge it up too much.




I still would like to see KC use a late round pick on Moore. Just so he doesn't become a UDFA and sign with some team that I totally despise. Maybe I'm in the minority but I still feel at some point he could be a good starter given the right opportunity.

watch him end up in Dungver

BryanBusby
04-27-2012, 10:30 PM
Lamar Miller is dropping like a rock.

BigChiefFan
04-27-2012, 10:32 PM
Lamar Miller is dropping like a rock.Small snippet on Lamar Miller...

04/03/2012 - NFL DRAFT CONCERNS: RB Lamar Miller, Miami: Scouts will tell you that Miller could slip on draft day because he's only started at Miami for one season. Another reason is because some worry that he'll struggle to handle a complicated playbook. - Rob Rang, NFLDraftScout.com

KevB
04-27-2012, 10:43 PM
Small snippet on Lamar Miller...

04/03/2012 - NFL DRAFT CONCERNS: RB Lamar Miller, Miami: Scouts will tell you that Miller could slip on draft day because he's only started at Miami for one season. Another reason is because some worry that he'll struggle to handle a complicated playbook. - Rob Rang, NFLDraftScout.com

He's also had shoulder issues....not good for a RB.

Austin Ed
04-27-2012, 10:47 PM
I know what your saying. The only reason I included the Olinemen is that there are at least a few guys on that list that could be had in round 6 or 7 and still allow the Chiefs to look elsewhere in rounds 4 and 5. The only Olinemen that the Chiefs should really consider at this point in my opinion would be perhaps one of the remaining Centers left on the board. Then of course they could use some RB depth, LB depth, some more depth in the Secondary as well. Then again who knows how much any of it will help with Cassel crapping his pants.

Molk in the sixth round might make some sense if he's still there.

Munson
04-27-2012, 10:51 PM
I'm hoping for...

S - We need someone better than McGraw/Pissybelly.
RB - Jamaal might not be the same, and Hillis is only here for a year. Lamar Miller sounds nice.
LB - Belcher is decent, but could use some competition. Take a chance on Burfict? And we could use more passrushers.
TE - Moeki was doing great before the injury. But he might end up being a brokedick. Kevin Boss is an upgrade over Pope, but doesn't he have history of being injured? Also, I don't want to see Jake O'Connell step on the field ever again.

Not huge needs now, but a couple of BPA picks...

Jared Crick - If he's there, why not try him as a 3-4 DE? Dorsey could be gone next year.
Alameda Ta'amu/Josh Chapman - You can never have too many fat bastard NT's

ForeverChiefs58
04-28-2012, 12:28 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/28/best-players-available-for-drafts-third-day/


Best players available for draft’s third day

Posted by Evan Silva on April 28, 2012, 1:19 AM EDT


Just as we did last night, let’s have a look at the top players remaining entering the draft’s third day:

1. Georgia cornerback Brandon Boykin — We discussed Boykin (pictured) in the previous post, but it’s possible teams have medical concerns after he fractured a bone in his lower right leg during the Senior Bowl game. If not, he’ll surely be one of the first players selected on Saturday. Boykin is a three-phase playmaker and was a 2011 team captain at Georgia.

2. Washington defensive tackle Alameda Ta’amu — Ta’amu moves exceptionally well for a 6-foot-3, 341-pound manchild, which makes him appealing from a planet-theory perspective. He is a 3-4 nose tackle prospect. Also a captain for the Huskies’ 2011 defense, Ta’amu started 42 games in college, recording 19 career tackles for loss and nine sacks.

3. Ole Miss tackle Bobby Massie — Massie was once regarded as a likely first-round pick by ESPN’s Mel Kiper. The measurables are certainly there. Massie possesses vine-like arms at 35 inches, and packs 316 pounds onto his 6-foot-6 frame. Unfortunately, Massie plays more like Jane than Tarzan at this point. He’s still a viable developmental project.

4. Arkansas receiver Joe Adams — Adams is slight at 5-foot-11 and 174 pounds, and he ran a relatively disappointing 4.53 forty time at the Combine. But SEC game watchers know he does not lack explosiveness. Adams scored 25 career touchdowns, including five on punt returns, and earned first-team All-SEC honors for his “all-purpose” work as a senior.

5. Tennessee defensive tackle Malik Jackson — For a much cheaper price, a team could get a higher-effort if only slightly less-gifted version of Quinton Coples on the draft’s third day. Jackson’s production wasn’t overwhelming while forced to play nose tackle on an undermanned Tennessee line, but he could excel at 4-3 left end, 4-3 tackle, or five technique in a 3-4. Jackson plays the game relentlessly, and he’s learned to defeat double teams. He’s one of our favorite 2012 sleepers.

6. Washington running back Chris Polk — Polk lacks elite initial burst, but possesses terrific vision and is a natural pass catcher with big, soft hands and background as a receiver. As a ball carrier, Polk averaged over 5.0 yards per carry on 799 career rushing attempts at Washington. He’s 5-foot-11, 215, and ran 4.47 at his Pro Day.

7. Alabama defensive tackle Josh Chapman — Chapman would have been a second-day pick if not for postseason ACL surgery. The operation repaired Chapman’s anterior cruciate ligament in addition to left meniscus after he played the final eight games of his senior season through the injury. And he was still the best run-stopping nose in the nation.

8. California receiver Marvin Jones — A silky smooth route runner with veteran savvy and a wide catching radius, Jones’ production was mediocre at Cal while playing second fiddle to future top-ten draft pick Keenan Allen at receiver. Jones was perhaps the best wideout on the field at the Senior Bowl. He goes 6-foot-2, 199 and ran a 4.47 at the Combine.

9. Miami running back Lamar Miller — Medical concerns may have pushed Miller down the board after postseason shoulder surgery. He also can’t pick up the blitz and is a non-factor in short-yardage situations. But Miller runs very fast in a straight line (4.36) and has feature-back size at 5-foot-11, 212. He needs to be drafted into a zone-blocking scheme.

10. Michigan State quarterback Kirk Cousins — Cousins has average arm talent and his decision making tends to tank when pressured, but he played in a pro-style offense at Michigan State and was a 39-game starter in the Big Ten, going 27-12. One major knock on Cousins is his performance in big games. In four career bowl appearances, he completed just 54-of-100 passes with a 6.76 YPA and 2:6 touchdown-to-interception ratio. Still a heady, charismatic signal caller, Cousins projects as a quality long-term backup in the league.

Others left: Wake Forest receiver Chris Givens, Nebraska defensive tackle Jared Crick, Arkansas receiver Jarius Wright, Nevada linebacker James-Michael Johnson, Nebraska cornerback Alfonzo Dennard, Virginia linebacker Cam Johnson, South Carolina safety Antonio Allen, Boise State safety George Iloka, Troy defensive end Jonathan Massaquoi, Oklahoma linebacker Ronnell Lewis, Georgia center Ben Jones, Georgia tight end Orson Charles, Florida State tackle Zebrie Sanders, Louisiana-Lafayette tight end Ladarius Green, Furman cornerback Ryan Steed, Miami guard Brandon Washington.

Simply Red
04-28-2012, 12:34 AM
Any chance Scott goes after Dog tomorrow?



http://i.imgur.com/kj3S7.png (http://imgur.com/kj3S7)

are they going after dog?

milkman
04-28-2012, 04:24 AM
I'd like to pick up Aaron Henry at safety, Robert Turbin or Chris Polk at RB, and David Molk or Phillip Blake at Center.

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 04:32 AM
lots of interesting, if flawed, players

Boykin - wonder how bad his broken leg was....he is an excellent kick returner and had a knack for big plays

Chapman in the 4th just makes me sad

rb, s, wr

BryanBusby
04-28-2012, 05:02 AM
a lot of talk that Chris Polk has a degenerative thing goin on there

http://forum.walterfootball.com/showthread.php?26415-4-28-Live-Draft-Grades-TWO-NFL-Mock-Re-Drafts-Rds-4-5-Winners-Losers-NBA-NHL&p=1369726#post1369726

RUSH
04-28-2012, 06:28 AM
Malik Jackson is definitely appealing. Underrated player in my opinion.

A Lot of good players left actually. Would be hard to screw it up but this is the Chiefs.

Saccopoo
04-28-2012, 08:03 AM
I'd like to pick up Aaron Henry at safety, Robert Turbin or Chris Polk at RB, and David Molk or Phillip Blake at Center.

All of this + Winston Guy if Henry is gone.

Turbin, Molk, Guy FTW.

Simplicity
04-28-2012, 08:10 AM
Marvin Mcnutt WR
Cyrus Gray RB
Vontaze Burfict LB
Alamada Ta'amu T
Chris Polk RB
Shaun Prater CB
Nick Toon WR?

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 08:39 AM
alright, today is new day....let's get some talent

Robert Turbin RB Utah St.
Cyrus Gray RB Texas A&M
David Molk C Michigan (fuck it, draft all OL)
Jared Crick DE Nebraska
Boykin CB Georgia (depends on leg)
Antonio Allen S S. Carolina
George Iloka S Boise St.
Joe Adams WR Arkansas

and here is a hilarious example of draft report double speak:

Gray rushed for 1,045 yards and 12 touchdowns in 2011. He gained 1,133 rushing yards and accounted for as many ground scores the year prior. Gray has racked up 65 total receptions and four aerial scores in the past two seasons.
Cyrus Gray, RB, Texas A&M
All-around talent
Strengths

Good lower-body strength and leg drive (32 1/2-inch vertical)
Slashing, one-cut-and-go style with above-average vision - ideal for a zone-blocking scheme
Great receiver with the ability to run downfield routes
Extremely quick, precise footwork
Plus straight-line speed (4.41-second 40-yard dash)
Patient runner that follows his blockers well
Experienced, successful kickoff returner
Able to play three downs
Limited wear and tear
Tenacious pass protector
Elite intangibles - amazing work ethic and attitude - a coach's dream

Weaknesses

Lacks ideal size to take a bruising (5-foot-10 3/8, 206 pounds)
Mild injury concerns
Doesn't always turn the corner with efficiency - needs to plant and drive more often
Tends to dance too much behind the line
Not much of a breakaway threat

http://www.kffl.com/a.php/130207/160

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 09:51 AM
Jonathan Massaquoi DE Troy

Ronnell Lewis OLB Oklahoma
Nigel Bradham OLB Florida St.
Tank Carder OLB TCU
Keenan Robinson OLB Texas
Darius Fleming OLB Notre Dame
Travis Lewis OLB Oklahoma
Josh Kaddu OLB Oregon



any of these olb's worth look?

spanky 52
04-28-2012, 09:56 AM
WR Jones, CAL; S Allen, SC; ILB Johnson, NV; RB Baker, MSU, are several players I wouldn't mind in the fourth.

Frosty
04-28-2012, 09:56 AM
Mayock and Les Miles were pimping Alexander out of Oklahoma, saying he would be a good 5 tech DE. Anyone know anything about him?

As for WR, I wouldn't mind Criner, Arizona

blazzin311
04-28-2012, 10:00 AM
any of these olb's worth look?

Of those particular OLBs I kinda like Jonathan Massaquoi, Ronnell Lewis, Nigel Bradham and Tank Carder.

Austin Ed
04-28-2012, 10:11 AM
Is it possible that the Chiefs got beat to the punch on both Thursday and Friday? I think they may have taken Barron or Kuechly in Round One had they still been there and then would have taken a NT like Josh Chapman later. In round 2, I think they were looking hard at Stephen Hill and that is why the Jets moved up right in front of the Chiefs.

Bewbies
04-28-2012, 10:26 AM
Is it possible that the Chiefs got beat to the punch on both Thursday and Friday? I think they may have taken Barron or Kuechly in Round One had they still been there and then would have taken a NT like Josh Chapman later. In round 2, I think they were looking hard at Stephen Hill and that is why the Jets moved up right in front of the Chiefs.

Based on Pioli's press conference I think Allen was our guy in 2. However, I do think we got smoked in round 3...

blazzin311
04-28-2012, 10:26 AM
Is it possible that the Chiefs got beat to the punch on both Thursday and Friday? I think they may have taken Barron or Kuechly in Round One had they still been there and then would have taken a NT like Josh Chapman later. In round 2, I think they were looking hard at Stephen Hill and that is why the Jets moved up right in front of the Chiefs.

I do think it is possible that the Chiefs were beat to the punch on Thurs. with both Barron and Kuechly off the board. Yesterday I think they were beat to the punch, but not with the Stephen Hill pick. I think they were beat to the punch in the round 3 when SD moved up in front of KC to select Brandon Taylor from LSU.