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Mecca
04-28-2012, 08:00 PM
List I found on NFLDC..

Who ya got?

1 Matt Barkley QB USC
2 Robert Woods WR USC JR
3 Jarvis Jones OLB Georgia RS JR
4 Marcus Lattimore RB South Carolina JR
5 TJ McDonald FS USC
6 William Gholston DE Michigan State JR
7 Manti Te'o ILB Notre Dame
8 D.J. Fluker Alabama OT RS JR
9 Xavier Rhodes Florida State RS JR
10 Devin Taylor DE South Carolina
11 Tyler Wilson QB Arkansas
12 Justin Hunter WR Tennessee JR
13 Barkevious Mingo OLB LSU RS JR
14 Alvin Bailey OG Arkansas JR
15 Louis Nix III NT Notre Dame RS SOPH
16 Brandon Jenkins DE/OLB Florida State
17 Xavier Sua-Filo OT UCLA
18 Michael Dyer RB Auburn JR
19 Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame
20 Patrick Omameh OG Michigan RS
21 Alec Ogletree ILB Georgia JR
22 Cornellius Carradine DE Florida State
23 Bacarri Rambo SS Georgia
24 Jonathan Hankins DT Ohio State JR
25 Logan Thomas QB VT JR
26 Kawann Short DT Purdue
27 David Amerson NC State JR
28 Bennie Logan DT LSU JR
29 Joseph Fauria TE UCLA
30 Landry Jones QB OU
31 Tyrann Mathieu LSU JR
32 Jaz Reynolds WR Oklahoma JR




These guys in no real order all have 1st round potential as well in my book.

Robert Lester FS Alabama
Aaron Murray QB Georgia RS JR
Arthur Brown ILB Kansas State TS
Tony Jefferson CB Oklahoma JR
Greg Reid CB Florida State
Michael Mauti OLB Penn State
Geno Smith QB WV
Mike Glennon QB NC St
EJ Manuel QB FSU
Da'Rick Rogers WR Tennessee JR
Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt JR
Cobi Hamilton WR Arkansas
Knile Davis RB Arkansas
Rex Burkhead RB Nebraska
Michael Williams TE Alabama
Cameron Fleming OT Stanford RS SOPH
Kevin Graf OT USC JR
Chance Warmack OG Alabama
Seantrel Henderson OT Miami FL JR
Dominique Easley DT Florida JR
Brandin Hawthorne ILB Michigan
Prince Shembo OLB Notre Dame JR
Jamie Collins OLB Southern Miss
D.J. Swearinger SS South Carolina
Matt Elam SS Florida JR
Eric Reid SS LSU JR
Nick Moody SS Florida State
Tre Boston FS UNC JR
Tharold Simon FS LSU JR
Tyler Bray QB Tennessee JR
Jordan Matthews WR Vandy JR
Damion Square DE Alabama JR

ILChief
04-28-2012, 08:01 PM
Tyler Wilson

KurtCobain
04-28-2012, 08:01 PM
I like tyler Wilson.

Mecca
04-28-2012, 08:02 PM
Andy Murray should probably be on there too actually.

I love love love Robert Woods but no way we get him.

Pawnmower
04-28-2012, 08:03 PM
OMG LETS TANK THE SEASON FOR TYLER WILSON

/draftfagubators

Mecca
04-28-2012, 08:04 PM
If we're gonna do that wouldn't you rather have Barkley? lol

Extra Point
04-28-2012, 08:04 PM
I want Rodgers' kid brother.

KurtCobain
04-28-2012, 08:05 PM
Andy Murray should probably be on there too actually.

I love love love Robert Woods but no way we get him.

I've never seen or heard much about murray, what's the pro/cons to look for, iyo, while I'm youtubing him?

O.city
04-28-2012, 08:05 PM
Tyler Wilson or Barkley


Woods is a stud as is Lattimore



That said, we probably take the ILB from ND.

Mecca
04-28-2012, 08:05 PM
Andy Murray has size and a ridiculous arm and has a ton of starting experience already.

KurtCobain
04-28-2012, 08:06 PM
If we're gonna do that wouldn't you rather have Barkley? lol

I watched him twice, looked like cassel both times.

Nightfyre
04-28-2012, 08:06 PM
Well, if Poe doesn't workout we can always look at John Jenkins next year I guess.

Mecca
04-28-2012, 08:06 PM
TJ McDonald would be an interesting fit he's fast but is a big time lay the lumber safety.

KC Tattoo
04-28-2012, 08:07 PM
I'm ready for next years draft. Suck to draft best QB.

AustinChief
04-28-2012, 08:08 PM
Andy Murray has size and a ridiculous arm and has a ton of starting experience already.

Can he grow an inch or two by next year? :D Other than his height, he does look damn good. (and honestly his height isn't too terrible)

ILChief
04-28-2012, 08:08 PM
OMG LETS TANK THE SEASON FOR TYLER WILSON

/draftpillowbiterubators

I would just trade whatever it takes to move up

KurtCobain
04-28-2012, 08:09 PM
Can he grow an inch or two by next year? :D Other than his height, he does look damn good. (and honestly his height isn't too terrible)

How tall is he?

Fairplay
04-28-2012, 08:09 PM
I'm ready for next years draft. Suck to draft best QB.


We should have done that last year.

AustinChief
04-28-2012, 08:10 PM
How tall is he?

6'1" listed now but I'd guess 6' and some change at combine

Mecca
04-28-2012, 08:10 PM
I could see the Chiefs falling in love with Mingo.

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 08:10 PM
if we don't use every pick necessary to acquire a QB this franchise can rot in hell


there are no more excuses, not even for morons like pawnsmoker who love cassel to death

pioli can acquire a QB or get the fuck out of town

Pawnmower
04-28-2012, 08:11 PM
I would just trade whatever it takes to move up

Thats because you are a truefan.

You have to be an elite draftturbator to think of the strategy of tanking your season to get a better draft pick....BEFORE the season even starts.

Mecca
04-28-2012, 08:12 PM
if we don't use every pick necessary to acquire a QB this franchise can rot in hell


there are no more excuses, not even for morons like pawnsmoker who love cassel to death

pioli can acquire a QB or get the fuck out of town

And if that QB is Landry Jones?

Nightfyre
04-28-2012, 08:12 PM
Fuck Landry Jones.

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 08:12 PM
And if that QB is Landry Jones?

oh my bad

"he's not good enough"

and

"wait till next year....too risky"

O.city
04-28-2012, 08:13 PM
No to Jones.



Give me Tyler Wilson for 1000

Mecca
04-28-2012, 08:14 PM
oh my bad

"he's not good enough"

and

"wait till next year....too risky"

Well he's not, that would be like wasting a pick..

You can't take one just to take one.

the Talking Can
04-28-2012, 08:17 PM
Well he's not, that would be like wasting a pick..

You can't take one just to take one.

oh no...wasting a pick

think of the consequences!

this is like a greatest hits parade of excuses

sorry man, your talking to the wrong person...the only thing we need is a QB, and the only objective is to obtain one...and we better damn well be ready to pay whatever price it takes

there are no more excuses

kysirsoze
04-28-2012, 08:17 PM
No to Jones.



Give me Tyler Wilson for 1000

This.

Deberg_1990
04-28-2012, 08:17 PM
I grade our 2013 draft an F already.

Signed,

Chiefsplanet
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WildTurkey
04-28-2012, 08:19 PM
If he declares I'd like the Chiefs to take a shot at Tyler Bray

O.city
04-28-2012, 08:20 PM
With the roster we have built, a young quarterback is gonna be able to jump in head first.

Bane
04-28-2012, 08:20 PM
Blow for Barkley!

Mecca
04-28-2012, 08:20 PM
You can sell all those QB's but not Landry Jones that guy sucks.

Bewbies
04-28-2012, 08:21 PM
Tyler Bray. I like Murray, but if he's 6' tall it's due to his hair being spiked up.

Honestly, unless we have Brady on the bench there is no excuse to look at anything but QB.

BossChief
04-28-2012, 08:23 PM
Drafting Landry Jones is probably worse than just keeping Cassel.

But what do I know?...Stanzi can't get on the field and I wanted to move up for Tannehill (and the opportunity to do so was there)

KC Hawks
04-28-2012, 08:23 PM
Can't wait until we draft Dayne Crist.

ILChief
04-28-2012, 08:23 PM
oh no...wasting a pick

think of the consequences!

this is like a greatest hits parade of excuses

sorry man, your talking to the wrong person...the only thing we need is a QB, and the only objective is to obtain one...and we better damn well be ready to pay whatever price it takes

there are no more excuses

We need to re-sign bowe, Albert, and Dorsey. That way there is no other position we have an excuse to take in round one

O.city
04-28-2012, 08:23 PM
I think Wilson has a monster year at Arkansas. He's the unofficial head coach down there now and is a great leader. He's going to be very polished after coming out of that pro style system.

Mecca
04-28-2012, 08:24 PM
We need to re-sign bowe, Albert, and Dorsey. That way there is no other position we have an excuse to take in round one

Not so sure Dorsey will be back to be honest with you...

ILChief
04-28-2012, 08:26 PM
Not so sure Dorsey will be back to be honest with you...

I am not either, but if he leaves DE will be a need and that will be our pick

WildTurkey
04-28-2012, 08:29 PM
I am not either, but if he leaves DE will be a need and that will be our pick

Bailey will take over his spot and will do well .. I doubt they'd spend a first next year on another DE.

Mecca
04-28-2012, 08:30 PM
i expect Dorsey to leave, Jackson to rework his deal and something to get done with Albert and Bowe, just my thoughts.

ILChief
04-28-2012, 08:30 PM
Bailey will take over his spot and will do well .. I doubt they'd spend a first next year on another DE.

People were thinking Brockers this year when we didn't need him

ILChief
04-28-2012, 08:31 PM
i expect Dorsey to leave, Jackson to rework his deal and something to get done with Albert and Bowe, just my thoughts.

I agree, I just hope theyre content with Bailey and don't fall in love with a DE

keg in kc
04-28-2012, 08:31 PM
I just found the following cheat sheet, but I'm not sure if it's BossChief's or Parker's:

2013 SUPAR DRAF BORED!

(First round value unless denoted sleeper)

QB James Vandenberg, Iowa
FB Brad Rogers, Iowa (jr)
WR Keenan Davis, Iowa
TE CJ Fiedorowicz ,Iowa (jr)
T Brett Van Slotan, Iowa (jr)
G Nolan MaMillan, Iowa (jr); Matt Tobin, Iowa
C James Ferentz, Iowa

DT Joe Gaglione, Iowa (sleeper!)
DE Dominic Alvis, Iowa (jr); Steve Bigarch, Iowa
OLB Christian Kirksey, Iowa (jr); James Morris, Iowa (jr)
CB Micah Hyde, Iowa; BJ Lowery, Iowa (jr)
S Tanner Miller, Iowa (jr)

K Mike Meyer, Iowa (jr)

Mecca
04-28-2012, 08:32 PM
I've seen Vanderberg play..he's not very good.

WildTurkey
04-28-2012, 08:33 PM
People were thinking Brockers this year when we didn't need him

We didn't take Brockers though...that tells me they either really like Bailey or they plan on re signing Dorsey... I'd lean towards the Bailey option

keg in kc
04-28-2012, 08:35 PM
I don't think we can do it without trading Bowe (NO I AM NOT SAYING "TRADE BOWE"!!!!!!eLeveN), but if we're not in the first 6-8 picks, I think we need to get there to get one of the top 5 QBs next year (my list right now is Barkley, Bray, Jones, Smith & Wilson).

O.city
04-28-2012, 08:35 PM
Shit, next year give up as many picks as you have to to get your guy.

BryanBusby
04-28-2012, 08:36 PM
I'm not expecting Bray or Murray to come out in next years draft.

This team is likely going to win too many games to have a reasonable shot at Tyler Wilson. Missing out on Tannehill is going to hurt a lot down the road.

Guru
04-28-2012, 08:38 PM
Bet ya we get Alvin Bailey

Guru
04-28-2012, 08:39 PM
If we're gonna do that wouldn't you rather have Barkley? lol

nope to both

ILChief
04-28-2012, 08:39 PM
I don't think we can do it without trading Bowe (NO I AM NOT SAYING "TRADE BOWE"!!!!!!eLeveN), but if we're not in the first 6-8 picks, I think we need to get there to get one of the top 5 QBs next year (my list right now is Barkley, Bray, Jones, Smith & Wilson).

Jones and Smith ahead of Wilson?

Mr. Flopnuts
04-28-2012, 08:39 PM
If we're gonna do that wouldn't you rather have Barkley? lol

Keith Price is already getting me to start salivating. Playing in Sark's pro style offense, and pushing Montana into a transfer is pretty amazing. Kid's got skills. He'll probably come out early, and may be the best QB in the 14 class.

suds79
04-28-2012, 08:40 PM
I'm sure we'll finally get our QB next year just like how Scott Pioli likes to draft a QB every year right??

What happened this year? Nothing.

What will happen next year? Nothing. And the meltdown will be epic.

... And of course there will be a select few saying "to trade up would cost too much" or "this guy is suppose to come out next year."

ILChief
04-28-2012, 08:40 PM
Shit, next year give up as many picks as you have to to get your guy.

I would go Ditka for Ricky Williams to get Barkley or Wilson

keg in kc
04-28-2012, 08:41 PM
Jones and Smith ahead of Wilson?Alphabetical order...

O.city
04-28-2012, 08:42 PM
I would go Ditka for Ricky Williams to get Barkley or Wilson


This.



If all goes according to plan, the glass slipper is built. The team around our young quarterback has the potential to be fantastic.


Not just good, but great.



Go get your guy next year and lets do some shit.

saphojunkie
04-28-2012, 08:44 PM
Trade Bowe to Miami now for a first. Draft Tyler Wilson with Miami's pick and Manti Te'o with ours.

*braces for shitstorm*

O.city
04-28-2012, 08:46 PM
No, keep Bowe around.



We don't need a starter at ILB.


Belcher is gonna wreck shit this year with Powe and Poe in front of him.

saphojunkie
04-28-2012, 08:47 PM
I'm not expecting Bray or Murray to come out in next years draft.

This team is likely going to win too many games to have a reasonable shot at Tyler Wilson. Missing out on Tannehill is going to hurt a lot down the road.

You have to root for Kevin Kolb this year. Raiders and Chiefs are the only two teams on paper that need to draft a QB next year. I say raiders cuz no way Reg mckenzie lives with that mess one year longer than he has to.

ILChief
04-28-2012, 08:48 PM
You have to root for Kevin Kolb this year. Raiders and Chiefs are the only two teams on paper that need to draft a QB next year. I say raiders cuz no way Reg mckenzie lives with that mess one year longer than he has to.

I could see the Jets and Jags in the market as well

saphojunkie
04-28-2012, 08:49 PM
No, keep Bowe around.



We don't need a starter at ILB.


Belcher is gonna wreck shit this year with Powe and Poe in front of him.

I really hope you're right, but Te'o is going to be a freak.

saphojunkie
04-28-2012, 08:50 PM
I could see the Jets and Jags in the market as well

You think they bail on Gabbert after two years? Isn't his contract fully guaranteed?

And jets just extended Sanchez. Of course, if tannebaum and Ryan are booted, anything is possible.

ILChief
04-28-2012, 08:51 PM
You think they bail on Gabbert after two years? Isn't his contract fully guaranteed?

And jets just extended Sanchez. Of course, if tannebaum and Ryan are booted, anything is possible.

Gabbert is awful

Molitoth
04-28-2012, 10:14 PM
I'm curious on whatever QB decides to come out of nowhere and take the nation by storm like what RG3 did this year.

milkman
04-28-2012, 10:19 PM
I watched him twice, looked like cassel both times.



Barkley is a hell of a lot better than Cassel.

That being said, I'd be willing to bet there will be at least 2 QBs that leap him as the top QBs in next year's class.

Both Tyler's (Wilson and Bray), would be my bet.

There might be a third, as well.

O.city
04-28-2012, 10:20 PM
If Wilson has the year I think he will next year, it's time to go get him. Hell it's past time.



Throw all your chips in, draft your quarterback and lets get serious.

KCrockaholic
04-28-2012, 10:21 PM
Just give us a damn 1st round QB not named Landry Jones. I like Murray and Wilson.

Urc Burry
04-29-2012, 12:17 AM
Isn't Ray Ray Armstrong the safety out of Miami suppose to be a high pick next year?

SNR
04-29-2012, 12:22 AM
Geno Smith and Tyler Bray > Barkley, Wilson, Jones, everybody else

ForeverChiefs58
04-29-2012, 12:25 AM
WalterFootball thinks we will pick a QB at 26, and seems pretty spot on with their take:


26) Kansas City Chiefs: Landry "Lance" Jones, QB, Oklahoma

As I wrote in my NFL Power Rankings, the Chiefs have the best roster in the NFL if you exclude the quarterback position. I believe they'll win the AFC West and make the playoffs, but they'll suffer another early exit because of Matt Cassel's limitations. Here's one way to fix that.

Psyko Tek
04-29-2012, 12:26 AM
as the first pick in the nfl draft
the kansas city chiefs pick
Bennie Logan DT LSU JR

write it down

rico
04-29-2012, 12:34 AM
If he declares I'd like the Chiefs to take a shot at Tyler Bray

Absolutely this. It's been years since I have been as excited about a QB prospect as I am Bray. That includes Luck (call me crazy all you want). I think this guy is awesome.

chiefzilla1501
04-29-2012, 12:36 AM
See, I know people get sick of the "wait til next year" talk, but I do think the class has a lot of potential to have a very deep QB class. I am praying like crazy that Murray and/or Bray or both end up declaring. Could Murray even hop above Barkley if he has a big season? The kid just has such a big arm, from what I've seen. None of these guys will be Andrew Luck, but what matters more isn't who's on top, but how many legit first rounders are there? I think there will be more QBs and less teams desperately competing for QBs.

You've got three guaranteed QBs in the first round. Barkley, Wilson, Landry Jones. While I don't like Jones, you hope some dumb team in front of you uses their QB card on him. One less team to worry about. What do people think about Geno Smith or EJ Manuel? Smith's had an impressive run at WVU. And does Manuel have the ability to be the next RGIII? They seem to play a similar game and let's not forget that RGIII wasn't high on radars after his junior year. Murray and Bray are cherries on the top. I wonder if this class could have 5 or more surefire first round QBs.

SNR
04-29-2012, 12:38 AM
See, I know people get sick of the "wait til next year" talk, but I do think the class has a lot of potential to have a very deep QB class. I am praying like crazy that Murray and/or Bray or both end up declaring. Could Murray even hop above Barkley if he has a big season? The kid just has such a big arm, from what I've seen. None of these guys will be Andrew Luck, but what matters more isn't who's on top, but how many legit first rounders are there? I think there will be more QBs and less teams desperately competing for QBs.

You've got three guaranteed QBs in the first round. Barkley, Wilson, Landry Jones. While I don't like Jones, you hope some dumb team in front of you uses their QB card on him. One less team to worry about. What do people think about Geno Smith or EJ Manuel? Smith's had an impressive run at WVU. And does Manuel have the ability to be the next RGIII? They seem to play a similar game and let's not forget that RGIII wasn't high on radars after his junior year.Love Geno Smith and what he could do this year. He's shown sharp improvement from year to year, and has shown that he's got the great arm and sharp release to go along with his athleticism.

He could be next year's RGIII. Known, but not taken too seriously before the college season. By the end of the season, however, he turns into either the king of the draft or a co-king.

chiefzilla1501
04-29-2012, 12:40 AM
WalterFootball thinks we will pick a QB at 26, and seems pretty spot on with their take:


26) Kansas City Chiefs: Landry "Lance" Jones, QB, Oklahoma

As I wrote in my NFL Power Rankings, the Chiefs have the best roster in the NFL if you exclude the quarterback position. I believe they'll win the AFC West and make the playoffs, but they'll suffer another early exit because of Matt Cassel's limitations. Here's one way to fix that.

The one thing to keep in mind, and it's something I've been saying for a while, is amazingly it's a lot easier to jump 10-15 spots into the top 10 or 15 than it is to jump 2-3 spots into the top 5.

Which is why I keep bringing up the depth of this year's QB class. If any good QB falls out of the top 5 and especially toward 10 or above, we can trade up for a lot less compensation than what Washington gave up for RGIII.

Bump
04-29-2012, 12:41 AM
we'll be picking around 15, give or take a few. Once again we won't have a shot at a good QB.

acesn8s
04-29-2012, 12:45 AM
as the first pick in the nfl draft
the kansas city chiefs pick
Bennie Logan DT LSU JR

write it downI hate you!




But you are probably right.:banghead:

chiefzilla1501
04-29-2012, 12:47 AM
we'll be picking around 15, give or take a few. Once again we won't have a shot at a good QB.

I think we'll have a much better shot at a good QB, and if we actually have the balls to make a move for once, we'll be very happy we passed on Tannehill. There are a lot of guys in this class I think who have the potential to grade out much better than him.

BryanBusby
04-29-2012, 12:49 AM
People hated Tannehill, but love Bray? idgi

For the record, I didn't hate Tannehill and don't hate Bray. It's just amusing.

keg in kc
04-29-2012, 12:55 AM
If Smith is a little more consistent he could be a monster heading into the draft. Wouldn't shock me at all to see him win the Heisman next year with his entry into a more respected conference. The main issue will be how much they actually win in the Big 12, but I don't think there's much of a question that he's probably going to put up some insane numbers (yes, more insane than 4300 yards (8.34 ypa) on 65.8% passing , 31 TD, 7 INT). He has an absolute cannon for an arm, can put passes anywhere he wants, has all kinds of poise in the pocket and under pressure, can move when he has to, has a tremendous pair of receivers in Bailey and Austin, and with any luck the line play should be better (the biggest issue in his worst games last year IMO).

Landry Jones will get all the press, but there isn't much doubt in my mind that Smith will be the best QB in the conference. And I don't know how much respect West Virginia is going to get from the schools out here in the midwest, but they could really do a number on the Big 12 if they get overlooked. And I'm not saying this because I'm a transplanted West Virginian homer (you all probably know how much love I have for my home state; read: not much). I'm saying this because they're a really talented team with one of the best quarterbacks leading one of the best offensive units in the country.

chiefzilla1501
04-29-2012, 01:02 AM
People hated Tannehill, but love Bray? idgi

For the record, I didn't hate Tannehill and don't hate Bray. It's just amusing.

Because Tannehill is the better athlete, but Bray is better at every other aspect of the game. And in terms of polish, experience, on-field intelligence, instincts... by the time Bray's ready, he's going to be miles ahead of Tannehill.

As I've said before, Tannehill is a good athlete, but he's going to have to win games by being a top-notch thinker. He's not elite enough athletically to win on his legs alone. From that standpoint, absolutely give me a guy like Bray who has the in-game experience that you simply can't learn from the bench.

KC Tattoo
04-29-2012, 01:27 AM
I don't know what to think of Barkley yet as a number one over all pick. I think he has a lot to prove yet. I'm thinking his stock is going to go down some this year.

BryanBusby
04-29-2012, 01:29 AM
You do know that Tannehill has a pretty good arm too, right?

Bray still has a lot of work to do on the field and off of it. Bulking up would be a good start.

I don't know what to think of Barkley yet as a number one over all pick. I think he has a lot to prove yet. I'm thinking his stock is going to go down some this year.
It's possible, but it depends if he and USC meet expectations. Unless another prospect explodes, he'll still be the #1 QB though.

The microscope is going to be on Landry Jones too. Watching how much he tumbles in the next year is going to be fun.

rico
04-29-2012, 01:30 AM
I don't know what to think of Barkley yet as a number one over all pick. I think he has a lot to prove yet. I'm thinking his stock is going to go down some this year.

And he'll obviously be losing some meat with Kalil gone... It will be an interesting year for him.

DaKCMan AP
04-29-2012, 01:42 AM
LOL @ Geno Smith & EJ Manuel on that list

SNR
04-29-2012, 01:55 AM
LOL @ Geno Smith & EJ Manuel on that listWanna bet Geno Smith beats out Barkley in next year's draft?

BryanBusby
04-29-2012, 01:56 AM
I'd take that bet.

Chocolate Hog
04-29-2012, 02:03 AM
Robert Woods and Lattimore

SNR
04-29-2012, 09:33 AM
I'd take that bet.I'll take all ya'll on

Bewbies
04-29-2012, 11:00 AM
People hated Tannehill, but love Bray? idgi

For the record, I didn't hate Tannehill and don't hate Bray. It's just amusing.

Right now there's no risk that we could actually take Bray. When the draft gets closer if he's attainable by us he will be hated.

chiefzilla1501
04-29-2012, 11:06 AM
You do know that Tannehill has a pretty good arm too, right?

Bray still has a lot of work to do on the field and off of it. Bulking up would be a good start.


It's possible, but it depends if he and USC meet expectations. Unless another prospect explodes, he'll still be the #1 QB though.

The microscope is going to be on Landry Jones too. Watching how much he tumbles in the next year is going to be fun.

Bulking up is critical. I hope he doesn't become the next Croyle. Tannehill has a good arm, but again, I think his supporters hype it up for being more than it is. It's not even close to elite. What I like about Bray is he's shown a lot more promise in using that arm on deeper stuff. Because to me, having a great arm doesn't matter if you don't know how to use it. Have you seen many clips of Tannehill gunning the ball into a tight spot? I really haven't. His entire resume seems to be built on safe throws, most of them being sideline routes or dump-offs.

O.city
04-29-2012, 11:15 AM
If it's qb next year, give me Tyler Wilson.

DeezNutz
04-29-2012, 11:36 AM
QB.

The Weeden selection this year shows that teams must go balls out if they like a QB in the draft because the risk/reward is just too damn high.

There are 4-5 high-quality QBs projected to go next year. Just give us one, and I don't particularly care which.

chiefzilla1501
04-29-2012, 11:41 AM
QB.

The Weeden selection this year shows that teams must go balls out if they like a QB in the draft because the risk/reward is just too damn high.

There are 4-5 high-quality QBs projected to go next year. Just give us one, and I don't particularly care which.

The good news is, as I've said before, if you have QBs moving out of the top 5 and especially out of the top 10, it's very easy to make a trade up even if you end up in the 20's. That, and there will be less competition from QB starved teams.

But that means the team has to be bold enough to take a chance on that move. That's where I start to become doubtful.

Sully
04-29-2012, 12:11 PM
I'm curious on whatever QB decides to come out of nowhere and take the nation by storm like what RG3 did this year.

Manuel

eazyb81
04-29-2012, 12:19 PM
On paper, next year looks like it could be special for QBs.

Matt Barkley, Aaron Murray, Tyler Bray, Tyler Wilson, and AJ McCarron could all have 1st round grades.

eazyb81
04-29-2012, 12:22 PM
People hated Tannehill, but love Bray? idgi

For the record, I didn't hate Tannehill and don't hate Bray. It's just amusing.

I don't get why you are comparing those two. Bray has better physical tools and has been a QB his entire career. He started as a true freshman in the SEC.

Tannehill is much more of a gamble than Bray might be if he has the junior year he is capable of.

Count Alex's Losses
04-29-2012, 12:23 PM
Nightmare:

Pioli signs extension, we trade Cassel, trade up, pick Barkley.

Nightfyre
04-29-2012, 12:25 PM
On paper, next year looks like it could be special for QBs.

Matt Barkley, Aaron Murray, Tyler Bray, Tyler Wilson, and AJ McCarron could all have 1st round grades.

EJ Manuel and Geno Smith, as well.

Reaper16
04-29-2012, 01:09 PM
On paper, next year looks like it could be special for QBs.

Matt Barkley, Aaron Murray, Tyler Bray, Tyler Wilson, and AJ McCarron could all have 1st round grades.

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Nightfyre
04-29-2012, 01:37 PM
AJ McCarron has the goods. He just operates in a run first offense.

Reaper16
04-29-2012, 01:40 PM
AJ McCarron has the goods. He just operates in a run first offense.

He's fucking terrible. TERRIBLE. He might be trending upwards; his best game of the season was the national championship game. But he's also the biggest reason why LSU upset Alabama in the regular season.

Good arm, but he doesn't yet have the mental understanding of the game to be an NFL QB.

Nightfyre
04-29-2012, 01:42 PM
He's ****ing terrible. TERRIBLE. He might be trending upwards; his best game of the season was the national championship game. But he's also the biggest reason why LSU upset Alabama in the regular season.

Good arm, but he doesn't yet have the mental understanding of the game to be an NFL QB.

He was a RS Sophomore. I expect his understanding will continue to improve. He has excellent physical tools.

Reaper16
04-29-2012, 01:45 PM
He was a RS Sophomore. I expect his understanding will continue to improve. He has excellent physical tools.

I expect him to improve too. To the point where he could be a 1st round QB after next season? That I have significant doubts about.

DaKCMan AP
04-29-2012, 01:45 PM
People shut up about EJ Manuel. Have you all ever seen him play? He's fucking AWFUL.

Chris Rix & Adrian McPhearson are better than EJ Manuel. JFC.

Bewbies
04-29-2012, 02:00 PM
Nightmare:

Pioli signs extension, we trade Cassel, trade up, pick Barkley.

No, a nightmare is a Cassel extension.

ILChief
04-29-2012, 02:09 PM
Nightmare:

Pioli signs extension, we trade Cassel, trade up, pick Barkley.

If by nightmare you mean the best possible thing then yes

DJ's left nut
04-29-2012, 02:34 PM
With only 1 above average draft in 4 years as a GM here, I've decided I just don't care.

Why bother following the draft? Pioli's just gonna waste everyone's time anyway.

Frankie
04-29-2012, 02:39 PM
26 Kawann Short DT Purdue

After drafting DT Jerome Long yesterday we should draft this guy. And that would be the long and short of it.

eazyb81
04-29-2012, 04:02 PM
Reaper do you even watch football?

McCarron is not another Greg McElroy. McCarron has the size and physical tools the NFL looks in a potential first tier QB. He was a top 150 recruit coming out of high school and is running a pro style offense. All Saban QBs look like game managers but he shows flashes of greatness. The only question is if he comes out this year, which I doubt.

OnTheWarpath58
04-29-2012, 04:07 PM
With only 1 above average draft in 4 years as a GM here, I've decided I just don't care.

Why bother following the draft? Pioli's just gonna waste everyone's time anyway.

It's a process.

Reaper16
04-29-2012, 04:18 PM
Reaper do you even watch football?

McCarron is not another Greg McElroy. McCarron has the size and physical tools the NFL looks in a potential first tier QB. He was a top 150 recruit coming out of high school and is running a pro style offense. All Saban QBs look like game managers but he shows flashes of greatness. The only question is if he comes out this year, which I doubt.

I watch a shit ton of football. Specifically, I see all of the Alabama home games in-person.

All I said is that McCarron needs to continue to learn how to actually play quarterback. He was all tools, no understanding for much of last season. Watching his games will back that up. He played below average for more than half of the season, and that's with a zillion defenders in the box attempting to shut down Richardson and Lacy.

Lots of QBs with NFL tools get taken in the 2nd-4th rounds. They do so because their tape sucks.

What's encouraging is that he was trending upward. His best games last season were his last two: at Auburn and vs LSU in the BCS title game.

DeezNutz
04-29-2012, 04:19 PM
With only 1 above average draft in 4 years as a GM here, I've decided I just don't care.

Why bother following the draft? Pioli's just gonna waste everyone's time anyway.

The apathy seems to be hanging thick; at least it is with me. This is the first time in years that I haven't watched the draft in its entirety.

Just have to laugh off some of the selections and move on.

Nightfyre
04-29-2012, 04:41 PM
I watch a shit ton of football. Specifically, I see all of the Alabama home games in-person.

All I said is that McCarron needs to continue to learn how to actually play quarterback. He was all tools, no understanding for much of last season. Watching his games will back that up. He played below average for more than half of the season, and that's with a zillion defenders in the box attempting to shut down Richardson and Lacy.

Lots of QBs with NFL tools get taken in the 2nd-4th rounds. They do so because their tape sucks.

What's encouraging is that he was trending upward. His best games last season were his last two: at Auburn and vs LSU in the BCS title game.
I think you are a little harsh on McCarron. Think about this: he only gets to throw when that running game isn't rolling like clockwork and he hardly ever gets to develop a rhythm. Just my take, but those are two bad circumstances under which to be expected to perform against SEC competition.

Reaper16
04-29-2012, 04:55 PM
I think you are a little harsh on McCarron. Think about this: he only gets to throw when that running game isn't rolling like clockwork and he hardly ever gets to develop a rhythm. Just my take, but those are two bad circumstances under which to be expected to perform against SEC competition.

Maybe. But that post of yours sounds like arguments in favor of Matt Cassel during the 2010 season.