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Saccopoo
04-29-2012, 06:53 AM
How would your draft have looked if you were Chiefs GM with the guys available when the Chiefs selected?

1. Michael Brockers, DT; LSU
2. Peter Konz, C; Wisconsin
3. Robert Turbin, RB; Utah State
4. Alameda Ta'amu, DT; Washington
5. Winston Guy, S; Kentucky
6. Ryan Lindley, QB; San Diego State
7. Drake Dunsmore, TE; Northwestern
7. Matt Reynolds, OT; BYU

milkman
04-29-2012, 07:30 AM
Let me get back to you in 3 years.

Dave Lane
04-29-2012, 08:17 AM
In my opinion it would have been difficult to have a worse draft if you were blindfolded and threw darts at names.

jspchief
04-29-2012, 08:32 AM
Let me get back to you in 3 years.

What an original thought.

milkman
04-29-2012, 08:40 AM
What an original thought.

You need to change your tampon.

You're bleeding everywhere.

DeezNutz
04-29-2012, 08:49 AM
In my opinion it would have been difficult to have a worse draft if you were blindfolded and threw darts at names.

"Don't ever say it can't get worse." /Buddy Bell '05

ILChief
04-29-2012, 08:53 AM
What an original thought.

What he said is true. No one knows. The draft could be great or terrible but we won't know for a while

jspchief
04-29-2012, 08:55 AM
You need to change your tampon.

You're bleeding everywhere.

Don't be mad at me for your decision to drop the "zach" of draft takes.

milkman
04-29-2012, 08:59 AM
Don't be mad at me for your decision to drop the "zach" of draft takes.

I can sit here and cry, like you, about the picks.

I've talked about the guys that I liked all over this board, and had Poe as my #2 hate pick.

But it's done.

Not a damn thing I can do about it, but unlike little crying bitches like you, I am not going to sit here and bleed all over about the fact that I don't like some of the picks.

redsurfer11
04-29-2012, 08:59 AM
1.M. Brockers
2.M.Kendricks
3.B.Massie
4.O.Charles
5.C.Rainey
6.R.Griffin
7.A.Datko
7.C.Keenum

The Bad Guy
04-29-2012, 12:02 PM
No, I wouldn't have taken that draft. I wanted nothing, absolutely nothing to do with Brockers.

Nightfyre
04-29-2012, 12:15 PM
1. Brockers
2. Adams
3. Sanu
4. Ta'amu
5. Iloka
6. Streeter
7. Dennard
7. Coleman

That being said, we got screwed in round 2. Like 6 first round talent guys flew off the board just before we picked.

OnTheWarpath58
04-29-2012, 12:35 PM
Floyd - WR
Konz - C
Turbin - RB
Chapman - NT
Menzie - S
B. Washington - G
Dennard - DB
Datko - T

Bowser
04-29-2012, 12:51 PM
I really wanted Turbin here. Fucking Seattle.

BossChief
04-29-2012, 02:26 PM
Floyd - WR
Konz - C
Turbin - RB
Chapman - NT
Menzie - S
B. Washington - G
Dennard - DB
Datko - T

So, what you're saying is you're ok with Bowe leaving.

Cool

BossChief
04-29-2012, 02:29 PM
How would your draft have looked if you were Chiefs GM with the guys available when the Chiefs selected?

1. Michael Brockers, DT; LSU
2. Peter Konz, C; Wisconsin
3. Robert Turbin, RB; Utah State
4. Alameda Ta'amu, DT; Washington
5. Winston Guy, S; Kentucky
6. Ryan Lindley, QB; San Diego State
7. Drake Dunsmore, TE; Northwestern
7. Matt Reynolds, OT; BYU

You are so full of shit.

Reynolds would have been your third rounder.

(other than that, most of those are guys I liked at those spots, too. Chapman over Alameda, though.)

OnTheWarpath58
04-29-2012, 02:30 PM
So, what you're saying is you're ok with Bowe leaving.

Cool

I wasn't OK with them letting Carr walk over $3M a year, why would I be OK with letting Bowe walk?

I am, however, OK with taking the best player available.

And considering the theme of PioliDraft2012 was "depth", Floyd is a helluva selection, considering we have no idea what's going to happen to Bowe, or if Baldwin is going to be an elite player.

SNR
04-29-2012, 03:08 PM
I wasn't OK with them letting Carr walk over $3M a year, why would I be OK with letting Bowe walk?

I am, however, OK with taking the best player available.

And considering the theme of PioliDraft2012 was "depth", Floyd is a helluva selection, considering we have no idea what's going to happen to Bowe, or if Baldwin is going to be an elite player.Baldwin isn't Jerell Powe or Ricky Stanzi. It's a dumb idea to bank the future of the franchise on two guys who didn't even see the field their rookie seasons, even though they were some of the 2011 draft's best value selections for all teams. Clearly they both deserve chances to be the fantastic players some think they are, but in no way should we wait for them to progress.

In Baldwin's case, he was a highly touted first rounder who had flashed some after he came back from his injury. Then Palko happened and everybody (including Bowe) sucked balls.

I really don't think Floyd was necessarily BPA at 11, and even if he was I don't think he was BPA for this team. There's a difference between taking the best player available regardless of team need and taking best player available when you're already three deep at the position, especially at a position like WR that depends largely on the quality of QB you have on the team. This isn't like taking a 4th CB in case Routt is a turd (we haven't spent anything larger than a 2nd rounder on a CB since the Flowers pick in 2008).

OnTheWarpath58
04-29-2012, 03:18 PM
Baldwin isn't Jerell Powe or Ricky Stanzi. It's a dumb idea to bank the future of the franchise on two guys who didn't even see the field their rookie seasons, even though they were some of the 2011 draft's best value selections for all teams. Clearly they both deserve chances to be the fantastic players some think they are, but in no way should we wait for them to progress.

In Baldwin's case, he was a highly touted first rounder who had flashed some after he came back from his injury. Then Palko happened and everybody (including Bowe) sucked balls.

I really don't think Floyd was necessarily BPA at 11, and even if he was I don't think he was BPA for this team. There's a difference between taking the best player available regardless of team need and taking best player available when you're already three deep at the position, especially at a position like WR that depends largely on the quality of QB you have on the team. This isn't like taking a 4th CB in case Routt is a turd (we haven't spent anything larger than a 2nd rounder on a CB since the Flowers pick in 2008).

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

You can't applaud Pioli for drafting depth, then criticize taking an elite WR instead of a project NT.

You can't applaud Pioli for looking to the future, then make an ignorant claim that we're "three deep" at WR - when the only star we have at the position is likely going to be let go, our 1st round draft pick from last year hasn't shown anything, and our WR3 has a history of knee problems.

Hell, we drafted a WR for depth in the 4th round. We drafted another in the 7th. We've signed one as an UDFA.

That's OK, but taking an elite player at 11 isn't?

SNR
04-29-2012, 04:04 PM
Can't have your cake and eat it too.

You can't applaud Pioli for drafting depth, then criticize taking an elite WR instead of a project NT.

You can't applaud Pioli for looking to the future, then make an ignorant claim that we're "three deep" at WR - when the only star we have at the position is likely going to be let go, our 1st round draft pick from last year hasn't shown anything, and our WR3 has a history of knee problems.

Hell, we drafted a WR for depth in the 4th round. We drafted another in the 7th. We've signed one as an UDFA.

That's OK, but taking an elite player at 11 isn't?I never did applaud Pioli for drafting depth. At least I never used those words. It's pretty damn obvious that there weren't many positions we could draft where the rookie would be the immediate starter. That's the thing about being a complete team. You don't draft depth, you draft starters in waiting.

I think you'd agree that it's one thing to draft WRs out the wazoo when you don't have a real QB versus drafting CBs, offensive linemen, passrushers... hell, even QBs out the wazoo.

BPA isn't always the best strategy.

Hoover
04-29-2012, 06:23 PM
I'll give it a whirl.

1. Dontari Poe

Reason: I'm looking for the final piece of an already solid defense. Yes he is a little bit of a project, but you can't teach size and athletic ability. Perfect for this defense if he works out.

2. Jeff Allen

Reason: He fits the Chiefs mold as a lineman. I would have liked Cordy Glenn, but Allen is similar.

3. Lamar Smith

Reason: I'm worried about Charles, and I think Smith is best suited to fill his role in this offense.

4. Philip Blake

Reason: With Allen providing tackle/guard depth, I need a true interior lineman to place center, which would allow Hudson to swing to guard when needed.

5. DeQuan Menzie

Reason: Menzie should be able to contribute in dime and nickel packages. I like the fact that he's a tweener.

6. Marvin McNutt

Reason: Even though we have Bowe and Baldwin, we need depth on the outside more so than in the slot. I don't like McCluster, but he will do.

7. David Molk

Reason: Quality depth

8. Vontaze Burfic

Reason: Why not

Saccopoo
04-29-2012, 06:52 PM
I'm amending my choices after further contemplation:

1. David DeCastro, OG; Stanford
- The Chiefs selected Jeff Allen in the second round to play left guard as they obviously intend to have Rod Hudson man the pivot. If they were planning on taking a guard that high, why not just take the best guard in the draft by a long measure here at the #11 spot?

2. Alshon Jeffery, WR; South Carolina
- The Chiefs took two wide receivers in this draft. Obviously they want to develop better depth at this position. Jeffery can be utterly dominant and is in the same mold as Bowe and Baldwin.

3. Robert Turbin, RB; Utah State
- A bigger version of Cyrus Grey with better break away speed and the ability to go in-between the tackles with more authority.

4. Alameda Ta'amu, DT; Washington
- They obviously wanted more depth at the nose position. Ta'amu is a massive player adept at two gapping the offensive line.

5. Winston Guy, S; Kentucky
- Versatile player that is very effective in run support. Played CB, S, OLB and ILB for the Wildcats and was solid at all of them. Faster than Menzie.

6. Billy Winn, DT; Boise State
- Shocked that Winn was still on the board in the sixth. Destroyed people all year and has the size and strength to effectively play the five tech in a 34. Drafted a five tech guy in Jerome Long in round 7 - why not take a guy who was thought to be a potential Day 2 pick here in the sixth?

7. Nate Potter, OT; Boise State
- A developmental tackle with very good skills and excellent feet. Has as much potential as Stephenson who they took in the third.

7. Trevin Wade, CB; Arizona
- Fluid and instinctive and has excellent coverage skills. Like many Arizona players his play dropped off in 2011 after being one of the top CB prospects in 2010/2009.

BigMeatballDave
04-29-2012, 07:30 PM
I would have taken a flyer on Case Keenum with a 7th.

Mecca
04-29-2012, 08:09 PM
I would have taken Lamar Miller instead of Stephenson I'll say that but let's be frankly honest if you hate the Poe pick I don't know how Brockers is any better other than he likely wouldn't even play this year.

ChiefsCountry
04-29-2012, 08:47 PM
Here is my draft:

1. Dont'a Hightower, LB, Alabama
2. Devon Still, DE, Penn State
3. Ben Jones, C, Georgia
4. Josh Chapman, NT, Alabama
5. Cyrus Gray, RB, Texas A&M
6. James Hanna, TE, Oklahoma
7. Andrew Datko, OT, Florida State
7. Aaron Henry, S, Wisconsin

Mr. Laz
04-29-2012, 09:56 PM
Floyd - WR
Konz - C
Turbin - RB
Chapman - NT
Menzie - S
B. Washington - G
Dennard - DB
Datko - T+1


although i would of liked to think i could of traded down and created a new situation instead.

BigChiefFan
04-29-2012, 11:17 PM
Looking back at the draft, Pioli did an excellent job. There weren't alot of pass-rushing 3-4 OLBers in the draft or guards that fit our offense, so he played the cards he was dealt. He got one of the top guards, the best NT prospect and a quality OT prospect. Added some special teamers, who have a chance to make the team, got us a HB, who should make the team and added some competition at WR .

Chiefnj2
04-30-2012, 08:34 AM
1. Cox or Kirkpatrick
2. Konz or Adams
3. Ta'amu or Chapman (I don't think people are being honest taking these guys in the 4th. Admit it you would have jumped on them in the 2nd or 3rd).
4. Massie
5. Illoka or Martin
6. B. Washington
7 - I don't care, probably take a chance on Burfict.

Direckshun
04-30-2012, 08:49 AM
I think the Chiefs draft is better than every draft in this thread. Easily. And I'm lukewarm on this draft.

If I were drafting for the Chiefs, I wouldn't have sat out the most trade-busy draft in NFL history. I would have moved up for some players I love (instead of getting jumped ourselves constantly), or I would have traded down and accumulated more help.

Instead, we sat still while the world buzzed by us. Like Amish in the world of Interstates and technology.

Fittingly, we ended up with a decent-enough draft, but it was the most non-flashy, non-memorable draft by any team in the draft this side of the Oakland Raiders. And they had like three picks.

Chiefnj2
04-30-2012, 08:56 AM
I think the Chiefs draft is better than every draft in this thread. Easily. And I'm lukewarm on this draft.

If I were drafting for the Chiefs, I wouldn't have sat out the most trade-busy draft in NFL history. I would have moved up for some players I love (instead of getting jumped ourselves constantly), or I would have traded down and accumulated more help.

Instead, we sat still while the world buzzed by us. Like Amish in the world of Interstates and technology.

Fittingly, we ended up with a decent-enough draft, but it was the most non-flashy, non-memorable draft by any team in the draft this side of the Oakland Raiders. And they had like three picks.

Out of your 218 mock drafts did you come close to getting KC's draft right?

spanky 52
04-30-2012, 11:05 AM
I think the Chiefs draft is better than every draft in this thread. Easily. And I'm lukewarm on this draft.

If I were drafting for the Chiefs, I wouldn't have sat out the most trade-busy draft in NFL history. I would have moved up for some players I love (instead of getting jumped ourselves constantly), or I would have traded down and accumulated more help.

Instead, we sat still while the world buzzed by us. Like Amish in the world of Interstates and technology.

Fittingly, we ended up with a decent-enough draft, but it was the most non-flashy, non-memorable draft by any team in the draft this side of the Oakland Raiders. And they had like three picks.

Watch S Taylor torch our ass when we play San Diego.

ChiefsCountry
04-30-2012, 11:50 AM
I think the Chiefs draft is better than every draft in this thread. Easily. And I'm lukewarm on this draft.


:rolleyes:

SNR
04-30-2012, 12:23 PM
As bad as this safety class was this year, there were some pretty sexy middle-round prospects that I really liked:

Brandon Taylor
George Iloka
Trumaine Johnson
Winston Guy

I would have much rather have had one of those guys than Stephenson or Whitey Brokeslapdick Coyote.

OnTheWarpath58
04-30-2012, 12:36 PM
As bad as this safety class was this year, there were some pretty sexy middle-round prospects that I really liked:

Brandon Taylor
George Iloka
Trumaine Johnson
Winston Guy

I would have much rather have had one of those guys than Stephenson or Whitey Brokeslapdick Coyote.

Would have liked to grab Boykin at CB as well.

Direckshun
04-30-2012, 12:50 PM
Out of your 218 mock drafts did you come close to getting KC's draft right?

Of course not.

I don't really like this draft at all, for reasons I've highlighted all year. Other than the Stephenson selection, there wasn't really a selection in this draft I was happy about.

But I think this draft does more for the Chiefs than much of what's listed on this thread.

Direckshun
04-30-2012, 12:57 PM
:rolleyes:

Fine. Let's do this thing.

Here is my draft:

1. Dont'a Hightower, LB, Alabama
2. Devon Still, DE, Penn State
3. Ben Jones, C, Georgia
4. Josh Chapman, NT, Alabama
5. Cyrus Gray, RB, Texas A&M
6. James Hanna, TE, Oklahoma
7. Andrew Datko, OT, Florida State
7. Aaron Henry, S, Wisconsin

I loved Still early in the draft season, I did. But you have to evaluate as time goes on, and the addition of Allen, who is a surefire-starter at guard with LT upside, does more to fortify this team than Still, a guy that just endured a Jimmy Clausen-like slide.

Hightower upgrades an unimportant position, which I'm still not very excited about doing in the draft, my interest in Kuechly notwithstanding. Jones and Chapman are solid picks in the midrounds, but Jones has no place on this team -- Hudson was drafted, and has projected for two years now, to be the center of the future. Instead, we used the third to upgrade at tackle. In your scenario, a 7th rounder (whom I do actually like) is fortifying our tackle position, not Stephenson.

Gray is a good pick in the midround there, but we got him a full round later.

The only player that I think would have been a solid acquisition in your draft that clearly outdoes Pioli's draft is Chapman. That's a king-sized acquisition, and I would have loved that over any one of our midrounders.

ChiefsCountry
04-30-2012, 02:00 PM
Fine. Let's do this thing.

I loved Still early in the draft season, I did. But you have to evaluate as time goes on, and the addition of Allen, who is a surefire-starter at guard with LT upside, does more to fortify this team than Still, a guy that just endured a Jimmy Clausen-like slide.

Hightower upgrades an unimportant position, which I'm still not very excited about doing in the draft, my interest in Kuechly notwithstanding. Jones and Chapman are solid picks in the midrounds, but Jones has no place on this team -- Hudson was drafted, and has projected for two years now, to be the center of the future. Instead, we used the third to upgrade at tackle. In your scenario, a 7th rounder (whom I do actually like) is fortifying our tackle position, not Stephenson.

Gray is a good pick in the midround there, but we got him a full round later.

The only player that I think would have been a solid acquisition in your draft that clearly outdoes Pioli's draft is Chapman. That's a king-sized acquisition, and I would have loved that over any one of our midrounders.

As much as a like Allen, keeping Hudson at a position where he was a stud at college makes alot of sense to me. While I think Hudson will transition fine to center, Jones who was a stud in the SEC will end up better. Lilja becomes depth at guard, which he wouldn't be before. He can play both guard spots so that is our guard depth.

Still was a BPA pick in the second round but fills a need. Depth at DE. With Jackson, Dorsey, Bailey and Still we can rotate on the line all day. Not to mention being able to fill Dorsey's spot if we can't resign him next year.

Hightower can play both ILB's if needed but more than likely would take Belcher's spot which would upgrade that position. If Belcher is your backup, then you are in a good spot.

Saccopoo
04-30-2012, 07:05 PM
I think the Chiefs draft is better than every draft in this thread. Easily...

You are high as shit.

1. Poe is a project that basically is going to be Crennel's legacy here in Kansas City, good - bad - whatever. Crennel puts all his eggs into the Poe basket and hopes like hell that Poe and Ultra Peanut are right and this guy tears peoples heads off. He didn't two gap well at Memphis and I see him as a Ngata-lite 34 DE versus a true nose in this system, meaning Jackson goes weakside, Poe goes strong side and tries to pull in the tight end as well as the OT and ROG due to his hyper athletic ability for a dude his size.

His measurables are the stuff of legends and hopefully he was just suffering at Memphis due to three Defensive Co's in three years and that they didn't really know what to do with him.

2. Jeff Allen is a solid player, but unspectactular. A very nice swing tackle that really never distinguished himself as dominant at the college level. They are planning on moving him inside. Position change at a substanitally higher competition level means a steep learning curve. If you are taking a guy in the second to be a starter at guard, just take the best guy in recent memory at that position with the first pick in DeCastro. Why try to convert when you could have had the best guard in college - by a large/huge margin the previous round?

3. I liked Stephenson a lot going into the draft as I thought he was one of the guys who would transition well to a pro zone system, but the third was a bit of a reach for a guy that they could have had in Nate Potter or Matt Reynolds in the seventh round and free agency, respectively.

4. In the fourth they took a guy who is basically the exact same player as Dexter McCluster - with an injury history. The guy is an absolute burner, but he's a gadget offensive/special teams guy. Wylie is McCluster. Redundant and unnecessary.

5. Menzie played opposite a stud in Kirkpatrick with a fearsome pass rush and run defense. He's not fast, doesn't have jump/twitch skills. He's just a guy. He is instinctive though, but he's not as good as Jalil Brown from last year. Fifth corner on the roster at best.

6. Gray is a decent all-around player that isn't very effective in-between the tackles, but he doesn't need to be if Hillis is healthy in 2012. He's got a chance, but doesn't do anything particularly special.

7. Long? Billy Winn was sitting there in the sixth. Winn absolutely killed people against good teams players and looked the part of a starting five tech. Long was a full time starter only in his senior season. He's a smart kid who did have a nice senior year, but it's not like he blew shit up.

7. Hemmingway has a chance to be a solid slot guy, especially in this system. Might actually end up as the H-back as he's a really stout and compact dude who has nice body control but no real speed coming off the line. Best pick in this draft by the Chiefs IMO.

This draft reminds me of 2009. Jackson/Poe the project in the system, a bunch of filler, and the best pick ends up being the last guy in the seventh round (Succop/Hemmingway).

A very uninspired and suspect draft considering the guys still on the board with each pick that they had.

Overall draft rating: D

Saccopoo
04-30-2012, 07:13 PM
As much as a like Allen, keeping Hudson at a position where he was a stud at college makes alot of sense to me. While I think Hudson will transition fine to center, Jones who was a stud in the SEC will end up better. Lilja becomes depth at guard, which he wouldn't be before. He can play both guard spots so that is our guard depth.

Still was a BPA pick in the second round but fills a need. Depth at DE. With Jackson, Dorsey, Bailey and Still we can rotate on the line all day. Not to mention being able to fill Dorsey's spot if we can't resign him next year.

Hightower can play both ILB's if needed but more than likely would take Belcher's spot which would upgrade that position. If Belcher is your backup, then you are in a good spot.

Good take, though I think that Hudson, who was one of the best guards to ever come out of the college ranks, has the skill and strength and intelligence and drive and work ethic to be a top flight center. As such, if you are picking a guard to come in and be a starter from Day 1, don't you just go ahead and take DeCastro versus hope Allen can make the transition from LT to LG? DeCastro is a phone booth destroyer with the athletic ability to play in any scheme.

With Lilja and Harris on the roster, this draft of Allen and Stephenson in the 2/3 rounds speaks more to their worry of Winston's injury and Albert's production or lack thereof.

Allen and Stephenson are both pretty solid tackles at the college level. Very good feet, excellent kick steps by both and the size+agility to play the zone block system at the next level at either side.

I don't see either as necessarily the starting guard versus finally having a guy or two on the roster that actually can play the edge in a zone.

BossChief
04-30-2012, 08:39 PM
Poe has already been told he will be the teams NT.

Blick
04-30-2012, 09:18 PM
You are high as shit.

1. Poe is a project that basically is going to be Crennel's legacy here in Kansas City, good - bad - whatever. Crennel puts all his eggs into the Poe basket and hopes like hell that Poe and Ultra Peanut are right and this guy tears peoples heads off. He didn't two gap well at Memphis and I see him as a Ngata-lite 34 DE versus a true nose in this system, meaning Jackson goes weakside, Poe goes strong side and tries to pull in the tight end as well as the OT and ROG due to his hyper athletic ability for a dude his size.

His measurables are the stuff of legends and hopefully he was just suffering at Memphis due to three Defensive Co's in three years and that they didn't really know what to do with him.

2. Jeff Allen is a solid player, but unspectactular. A very nice swing tackle that really never distinguished himself as dominant at the college level. They are planning on moving him inside. Position change at a substanitally higher competition level means a steep learning curve. If you are taking a guy in the second to be a starter at guard, just take the best guy in recent memory at that position with the first pick in DeCastro. Why try to convert when you could have had the best guard in college - by a large/huge margin the previous round?

3. I liked Stephenson a lot going into the draft as I thought he was one of the guys who would transition well to a pro zone system, but the third was a bit of a reach for a guy that they could have had in Nate Potter or Matt Reynolds in the seventh round and free agency, respectively.

4. In the fourth they took a guy who is basically the exact same player as Dexter McCluster - with an injury history. The guy is an absolute burner, but he's a gadget offensive/special teams guy. Wylie is McCluster. Redundant and unnecessary.

5. Menzie played opposite a stud in Kirkpatrick with a fearsome pass rush and run defense. He's not fast, doesn't have jump/twitch skills. He's just a guy. He is instinctive though, but he's not as good as Jalil Brown from last year. Fifth corner on the roster at best.

6. Gray is a decent all-around player that isn't very effective in-between the tackles, but he doesn't need to be if Hillis is healthy in 2012. He's got a chance, but doesn't do anything particularly special.

7. Long? Billy Winn was sitting there in the sixth. Winn absolutely killed people against good teams players and looked the part of a starting five tech. Long was a full time starter only in his senior season. He's a smart kid who did have a nice senior year, but it's not like he blew shit up.

7. Hemmingway has a chance to be a solid slot guy, especially in this system. Might actually end up as the H-back as he's a really stout and compact dude who has nice body control but no real speed coming off the line. Best pick in this draft by the Chiefs IMO.

This draft reminds me of 2009. Jackson/Poe the project in the system, a bunch of filler, and the best pick ends up being the last guy in the seventh round (Succop/Hemmingway).

A very uninspired and suspect draft considering the guys still on the board with each pick that they had.

Overall draft rating: D

I don't think Poe has the arm length to play outside. Does Wilfork ever play the 5 technique in New England? Serious question. I want to say that I've seen it before, but I'm not sure. They have the same size arms is why I'm curious.

I like the Allen pick. They picked him for his versatility. DeCastro can't play both tackle spots. He's just a guard. Allen can play every position except center. My concern with Allen is that he seems like a pass protector first and a finesse run blocker. I don't know why you would kick a guy like that inside to face bigger, stronger guys.

Stephenson was a bit of a reach, but he's a great fit for the zone scheme like you mention. He's more athletic and a better fit for our scheme than Potter or Reynolds.

Wylie is not the same as McCluster. McCluster was almost a 4.6 guy at the combine. Wylie ran under a 4.4. Wylie actually played WR. McCluster was a RB. Wylie was a great punt returner. I'm not even sure if McCluster was used on returns in college. The only similarities are size and injury issues, and even then, Wylie is bigger.

Menzie will probably be a safety, or a safety/corner hybrid package guy. He's a good football player. If you want jump/twitch guys, we could always give Donald Washington more playing time.

Gray is a solid, balanced RB. Good pick.

Long was the only pick I didn't like that much. But, I understand why they did it. He got better each year. Put on 35 pounds while he was in school. Hard worker. I think they looked at him as a guy who still might be getting used to his added weight and still has his best football ahead of him.

I like Hemingway. I don't really see the H-back thing, but you never know.

I hope it ends up better than 2009, but I can definitely see the similarities.

BryanBusby
04-30-2012, 09:28 PM
1st) David DeCatro, OG Stanford
2nd) Kevin Zeitler, OG Winsconsin
3rd) Brandon Brooks, OG Miami Oh.
4th) Tony Bergstrom, OG Utah
5th) Ryan Miller, OG Colorado
6th) Desmond Wynn, OG Rutgers
7th) Kellen Moore, Super Bowl MVP Boise State
7th) Adam Gettis, OG Iowa (YEAHHHH IOWA PICK HERE GUYS)

Too lazy to make new list of guards. The only thing I really would of done differently was taken a CB in the 3rd round.

Bewbies
04-30-2012, 09:44 PM
LMAO

kcbubb
05-01-2012, 04:16 PM
Trade back with Seattle and get 15, 114 (4th) & 172 (6th).

1) Melvin Ingram OLB
2) Peter Konz C
3) Joe Adams WR
4) Ta'amu NG
4) Bobby Massie T
5) Chris Rainey RB
6) James Hannah TE
6) Billy Winn DE
7) David Molk C
7) Junior Hemingway WR

Championship!