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ChiefsandO'sfan
05-01-2012, 03:24 PM
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Chiefs are busy bringing in free agents. Dallas Clark coming to KC tonite for a visit. Free safety A.J.Atogwe was at Arrowhead last night

DBOSHO
05-01-2012, 03:26 PM
Lol 3 tight ends? Why not. Just another blocker to make time for cassel to overthrow a reciever.

Mr. Laz
05-01-2012, 03:26 PM
i wonder why Dallas Clark ... isn't that what Boss is here for?

hope that doesn't mean something bad about Moeaki's recovery.


Atogwe is talented but he can't keep a job ... gotta be something wrong with him.

O.city
05-01-2012, 03:28 PM
Interesting.



Clark, Boss, and Moeaki would be a really good TE group.



Atogwe as the 3 S isn't a bad idea either.

O.city
05-01-2012, 03:29 PM
Texans just released Jacoby Jones. Anyone have any thoughts on him?

ILChief
05-01-2012, 03:30 PM
Bye bye O'connell

Pasta Giant Meatball
05-01-2012, 03:31 PM
I would the whole Atogwe.

jiveturkey
05-01-2012, 03:32 PM
Don't we already have like 24 Safeties on the roster?

Tuckdaddy
05-01-2012, 03:32 PM
Why the hell not. Bring in everybody! Clark would give us a TE set from hell.

rico
05-01-2012, 03:33 PM
2 Iowa TE's....

htismaqe
05-01-2012, 03:33 PM
Good moves if they can get them.

Clark is almost exclusively a receiving TE. He and Boss are pretty different.'

Atogwe is a good player and would be a good 3rd safety.

ILChief
05-01-2012, 03:33 PM
Don't we already have like 24 Safeties on the roster?

Making sure pissedhisbelly never returns

dallaschiefsfan
05-01-2012, 03:36 PM
This SCREAMS two-tight end sets all day long. It would be a good move if that's what they're thinking. It would also make one of our wide receivers expendable if we're that committed to keeping only 2 WR's on the field most of the time. I just assume on the plays they don't run two tight ends out there that they would either put Moeaki as a WR and/or go with a FB instead. I'll be surprised if we run many 3 WR formations next year.

O.city
05-01-2012, 03:36 PM
Lets get them on board.

L.A. Chieffan
05-01-2012, 03:37 PM
Lol 3 tight ends? Why not. Just another blocker to make time for cassel to overthrow a reciever.

Moeaki will probably only be available for the first two games anyway.

royr17
05-01-2012, 03:37 PM
Clark could come in and play an H-Back role so could Moeaki.

thabear04
05-01-2012, 03:38 PM
Maybe they are gonna put Moeaki on pup cause he might not be ready on time.

Cave Johnson
05-01-2012, 03:38 PM
Sure, you can never have enough injury-prone Iowa TEs.....

rico
05-01-2012, 03:38 PM
Sure, you can never have enough injury-prone Iowa TEs.....

LMAO

JD10367
05-01-2012, 03:39 PM
I don't know what Dallas Clark has left in the tank but, if there's any gas at the bottom, he's a fine pickup (and probably won't be that pricey due to his age and injuries). Good receiving tight ends can be both a passing game's bread-and-butter AND can greatly help a QB (especially a mediocre one who likes to check down).

O.city
05-01-2012, 03:39 PM
I thin it's a depth move. You can never have too many good players right.

O.city
05-01-2012, 03:41 PM
The bottom guys on the roster could be players like Brown and McCluster. Thats not a bad thing.

ChiefsNow
05-01-2012, 03:45 PM
Does Dallas Clark have anything left? Seems he been kinda quiet lately.

DJ's left nut
05-01-2012, 03:47 PM
I'd love any of them. Or all of them.

Bring in as many vets on 1 or 2 year deals as you want. We left a ton of FA money on the table and there's no sense in just letting it sit there. Might as well grab Clark if for no other reason than having him mentor Moeaki.

Well, and for the inevitable Moeaki injury.

Atogwe's a nice player that could take some pressure of Menzie and clearly spell the end of Slappy, perhaps even McGraw (though I don't hate McGraw in limited doses).

MoreLemonPledge
05-01-2012, 03:48 PM
Dallas Clark was maybe the worst TE in all of football last year. He's done. I saw Moeaki the other day walking without any limp whatsoever, for what that's worth.

Atogwe would be a decent pick up.

Dayze
05-01-2012, 03:48 PM
I'd love any of them. Or all of them.

Bring in as many vets on 1 or 2 year deals as you want. We left a ton of FA money on the table and there's no sense in just letting it sit there. Might as well grab Clark if for no other reason than having him mentor Moeaki.

Well, and for the inevitable Moeaki injury.

Atogwe's a nice player that could take some pressure of Menzie and clearly spell the end of Slappy, perhaps even McGraw (though I don't hate McGraw in limited doses).

I feel sort of the same way.

O.city
05-01-2012, 03:49 PM
Like I said earlier, when the bottom of our roster is made up of players like Menzie and such, it's definitely not a bad thing.

The Bad Guy
05-01-2012, 03:49 PM
I'd sign all of them.

Fruit Ninja
05-01-2012, 03:50 PM
Sign em all and let the best man win the job.

ILChief
05-01-2012, 03:53 PM
Dallas Clark was maybe the worst TE in all of football last year. He's done. I saw Moeaki the other day walking without any limp whatsoever, for what that's worth.

Atogwe would be a decent pick up.

He had maybe the worst qb in all of football last year

KCtotheSB
05-01-2012, 03:56 PM
IS BRODIE CROYLE COMING IN TOO?

Thig Lyfe
05-01-2012, 03:57 PM
Wonder if this is a ploy to get Peyton Manning to sign with us?

Mr. Laz
05-01-2012, 03:59 PM
I don't know what Dallas Clark has left in the tank but, if there's any gas at the bottom, he's a fine pickup (and probably won't be that pricey due to his age and injuries). Good receiving tight ends can be both a passing game's bread-and-butter AND can greatly help a QB (especially a mediocre one who likes to check down).
you would think that Manning would know if these ex-colts had anything left and the donks didn't seem to try very hard for them.

Munson
05-01-2012, 04:01 PM
Dallas Clark is old and busted. But I'd still take him if it meant getting rid of O'Connell.

Bump
05-01-2012, 04:04 PM
I'd rather keep Tim Biere. But I do want that safety.

keg in kc
05-01-2012, 04:07 PM
you would think that Manning would know if these ex-colts had anything left and the donks didn't seem to try very hard for them.Could be the same strategy we have, hold off until after the draft. We drive his price up or sign him ourselves. Teams do it to us enough.

Pestilence
05-01-2012, 04:29 PM
Sign them all.....fuck it.

O.city
05-01-2012, 04:30 PM
I will say that it's nice, at this point, that we are signing guys like this for limited roles. Instead of the Mike Browns to starting positions.

WV
05-01-2012, 04:34 PM
Get Atogwe signed and Clark too if the $$ is right and he appears to have something left.

Dayze
05-01-2012, 04:35 PM
does showing the young kids 'the ropes' count against the cap?

Direckshun
05-01-2012, 04:43 PM
Atogwe would not be bad for depth.

Berry
Lewis
Atogwe
Menzie

Damn good safety depth.

At corner:

Flowers
Routt
Arenas
Daniels
Menzie
Brown

We'd need a 10th on the roster. Maybe Washington.

Direckshun
05-01-2012, 04:57 PM
I figured our TE depth was fine. Moeaki, Boss, and Maneri is a solid trio.

Moeaki is your feature guy who really just does everything at a Pro Bowl level. Boss is a complementary guy, blocks and receives solidly. And moving Maneri to blocking tight end was a genius move.

My guess is they are just establishing a contact with Dallas Clark, so that if/when Moeaki goes down, they can bring him in off the street and not miss too many beats if he's properly paired with Boss.

The other option is that they really are fortifying their receiving corps in the event that Bowe continues to hold out.

The playmaker corps without Bowe is severely hampered.

Charles
Hills
Breaston
Baldwin
Moeaki
Boss
McCluster

Bringing on Clark gives us a reliable pair of hands downfield.

Without Bowe, we'll need as many as we get.

We're also going to need wholesale improvement from Baldwin.

Chocolate Hog
05-01-2012, 05:19 PM
Both would be great signings

Willie Lanier
05-01-2012, 05:42 PM
I'd take OJ Atogwe, he's just a few years removed from being a great safety...

Clark, I guess, for mentoring processes, but there doesn't seem to be much left there from an outside perspective

Okie_Apparition
05-01-2012, 05:44 PM
Atogwe always sounded like some kind of special stoner move

Sure-Oz
05-01-2012, 05:45 PM
According to Yahoo's Jason Cole the "word on the street" is that free agent Dallas Clark "is done."
He sure looked it last year. Clark was relentlessly blown up as an on-the-line blocker, and the 33-year-old (in June) dropped an alarming eight of his 63 targets, per Pro Football Focus' charting data. There's a reason Peyton Manning lobbied for Jacob Tamme in Denver, and didn't go to bat for Clark. Apr 16 - 5:35 PM
Source: Yahoo Sports

BossChief
05-01-2012, 05:52 PM
I'm in favor of signing all the guys we can that have a little gas left...as long as it leaves enough on hand to get Bowe signed long term once he comes to his senses.

I don't know though...it seems awfully sketchy.

I get this sinking feeling that this upcoming year will be the last for Bowe and Albert in KC.

I hope I'm wrong.

Sure-Oz
05-01-2012, 05:55 PM
Hope we sign em

Count Zarth
05-01-2012, 06:10 PM
I get this sinking feeling that this upcoming year will be the last for Bowe and Albert in KC.


im about to motehrfucking rage

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cdcox
05-01-2012, 06:23 PM
Plan for beating the Broncos:

1. Sign Clark.
2. Assign him #44.
3. Invent a jersey that looks blue to Peyton Manning but red to everyone else (key step)
4. Line him up at slot corner on defense.
5. Have him run seam patterns.
6. ????
7. Manningception!!!!!

O.city
05-01-2012, 06:27 PM
Surely to christ we lock up Bowe.



Anyway, I wouldn't mind Atogwe as the third safety, being pushed by some of the young guys.

If Brown could take the next step as a corner, we would have a really solid secondary.

DTLB58
05-01-2012, 06:34 PM
I'm in favor of signing all the guys we can that have a little gas left...as long as it leaves enough on hand to get Bowe signed long term once he comes to his senses.

I don't know though...it seems awfully sketchy.

I get this sinking feeling that this upcoming year will be the last for Bowe and Albert in KC.

I hope I'm wrong.

If Bowe does not sign a long term deal and Pioli let Carr walk, Scott can just get on the next Fing train out of town. That will have been epic dumb then!

Just Passin' By
05-01-2012, 06:35 PM
With 90 man offseason rosters this year, it seems like a pretty safe call.

MoreLemonPledge
05-01-2012, 06:35 PM
Bringing on Clark gives us a reliable pair of hands downfield.

Without Bowe, we'll need as many as we get.

Pretty sure Clark was a leader, if not the leader, in drops last year.

Mr. Arrowhead
05-01-2012, 06:36 PM
thats crazy that Clark is 33, it seems like hes only been in the league 6 or 7 years

CaliforniaChief
05-01-2012, 06:40 PM
If Bowe does not sign a long term deal and Pioli let Carr walk, Scott can just get on the next Fing train out of town. That will have been epic dumb then!

I know this has been said over and over, but I really hesitate to blame Pioli for Carr leaving. It's been pretty much proven that Carr never wanted to stay...that his goal was to be a Dallas Cowboy the whole time. I wouldn't even be surprised if there was some tampering there where Jerry let it be known to BC's agent that they'd be calling when FA opened up.

Bowe seems like a different story to me. Here, it seems to be a financial thing...and in that case, I'd be pretty bent if D-Bowe got out of town. We'll see, but I'm still holding out hope that behind the scenes, we're working on the long-term deal.

Gonzo
05-01-2012, 06:45 PM
He had maybe the worst qb in all of football last year

Palko played in Indy?

O.city
05-01-2012, 06:47 PM
I would like to lock Bowe up.




That said, he does still have the occasional drop at the worst of times. He has absolutely worked his ass off for this franchise though. He's improved really in all facets. If he has a good year this year, I don't see any reason why he wouldn't be locked up.

Simply Red
05-01-2012, 06:52 PM
Wonder if this is a ploy to get Peyton Manning to sign with us?





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Simply Red
05-01-2012, 06:54 PM
im about to motehr****ing rage

http://i45.tinypic.com/2wcr2gx.jpg

so why use the 'Dat Ass' meme?

Count Zarth
05-01-2012, 06:57 PM
so why use the 'Dat Ass' meme?

google "im about to motherfucking rage"

ILChief
05-01-2012, 06:58 PM
Palko played in Indy?

Touché, second worst

Marcellus
05-01-2012, 06:59 PM
WTF are people even acting like there is a slim chance Bowe won't be here next year? At the worst he holds out for most of training camp. He isn't going to miss out on $9MM to pout.

Hoover
05-01-2012, 07:59 PM
I don't know what Clark has left, but I think he could really help Moeaki. We will probably take it easy on Moeaki in camp so Clark could give it a whirl and be an on field coach.

Hoover
05-01-2012, 08:03 PM
Atogwe would be a nice addition IMO.

O.city
05-01-2012, 08:04 PM
Atogwe as the starting S? No thanks.



Atogwe as the 3rd best safety on the team? Uh yeah for sure.

Hoover
05-01-2012, 08:07 PM
They are bringing him in for competition, not a bad thing.

Chocolate Hog
05-01-2012, 08:09 PM
Atogwe was 0.7

Clark was -13.3

Atogwe could certainly help

O.city
05-01-2012, 08:11 PM
Someone give me the full rundown on Atogwe. Would he be in the box type guy or FS?

-King-
05-01-2012, 08:11 PM
Otogwe would be a great signing. He can back up both safety spots and fill in in a pinch.

O.city
05-01-2012, 08:12 PM
With all our 3 safety sets, I'd think he would pretty much be a starter.



Safety could actually be a really good area on the roster for us this year.

Easy 6
05-01-2012, 08:48 PM
I called Atogwe atleast a month ago, solid veteran depth.

Clark can come on down as well, he may not be what he once was on a full time basis, but he presumably wont have to be full time here, they can pick his spots.

The Dawg
05-01-2012, 09:25 PM
Atogwe would be a good pickup. He can't be worse than Sabby.... nobody can.

BryanBusby
05-01-2012, 09:29 PM
Atogwe would be a good pickup. He can't be worse than Sabby.... nobody can.

Clay would be better than Sabby.

Rausch
05-01-2012, 09:32 PM
I called Atogwe atleast a month ago, solid veteran depth.

Clark can come on down as well, he may not be what he once was on a full time basis, but he presumably wont have to be full time here, they can pick his spots.

He's still likely better than anything we've got...

MoreLemonPledge
05-01-2012, 09:38 PM
Someone give me the full rundown on Atogwe. Would he be in the box type guy or FS?

FS, "center field" type I believe.

Micjones
05-01-2012, 09:51 PM
Clark is overrated, over the hill and no healthier than Moeaki.
I'll take Atogwe though.

Chief3188
05-01-2012, 10:17 PM
I'd love any of them. Or all of them.

Bring in as many vets on 1 or 2 year deals as you want. We left a ton of FA money on the table and there's no sense in just letting it sit there. Might as well grab Clark if for no other reason than having him mentor Moeaki.

Well, and for the inevitable Moeaki injury.

Atogwe's a nice player that could take some pressure of Menzie and clearly spell the end of Slappy, perhaps even McGraw (though I don't hate McGraw in limited doses).

Since we have several players we need to extend deals too already on our team Bowe, possibly Albert and Dorsey, maybe Hillis if he plays well and not to mention we can roll that money over for some extra cap next season if we need it. Personally I would rather save the ammo for a year that I know Cassel won't be starting because it is all a waste as long as he is under center.

Pasta Giant Meatball
05-01-2012, 11:20 PM
Palko played in Indy?

Jeff Spicoli's long lost brother.

Count Zarth
05-02-2012, 12:02 AM
Clark is overrated, over the hill and no healthier than Moeaki. .

Two brokedick Iowa tight ends = 1 good tight end?

Fairplay
05-02-2012, 12:13 AM
Two brokedick Iowa tight ends = 1 good tight end?



Sure, why not. When one gets off I.R. the other one goes on it.

Fairplay
05-02-2012, 12:17 AM
thats crazy that Clark is 33, it seems like hes only been in the league 6 or 7 years



Tony Gonzalez is like the Skip Towne of the TE's in the NFL.

htismaqe
05-02-2012, 07:49 AM
Since we have several players we need to extend deals too already on our team Bowe, possibly Albert and Dorsey, maybe Hillis if he plays well and not to mention we can roll that money over for some extra cap next season if we need it. Personally I would rather save the ammo for a year that I know Cassel won't be starting because it is all a waste as long as he is under center.

Cassel is going to be starting for the foreseeable future, so should we just forfeit the offseason altogether?

Micjones
05-02-2012, 07:55 AM
Two brokedick Iowa tight ends = 1 good tight end?

Thing is, if Moeaki can stay healthy...
He's twice the TE Clark ever was.
He probably won't though.

Boss is probably the best chance we have at some TE stability.

boogblaster
05-02-2012, 08:45 AM
look at em all .. cant hurt .....

Chiefshrink
05-02-2012, 08:58 AM
i wonder why Dallas Clark ... isn't that what Boss is here for?

hope that doesn't mean something bad about Moeaki's recovery.


Atogwe is talented but he can't keep a job ... gotta be something wrong with him.

Nah, I think Pioli is taking a page out of what he saw Bellichek do this past yr with the dynamic duo. And why the Jets brought Tebow in as well. The rest of the league is starting to follow suit as well.

Chiefshrink
05-02-2012, 09:00 AM
Thing is, if Moeaki can stay healthy...
He's twice the TE Clark ever was.
He probably won't though.

Boss is probably the best chance we have at some TE stability.

Clark and Moeaki are 2 different types which is great. Clark is an actual true H-back. Chris Cooley type. Moeaki is not.

BigChiefFan
05-02-2012, 09:58 AM
Do you all not realize we will carry 3 TEs, like most teams do? For DEPTH.

vailpass
05-02-2012, 10:40 AM
you would think that Manning would know if these ex-colts had anything left and the donks didn't seem to try very hard for them.

This is the case. Respect for Clark though.

milkman
05-02-2012, 10:49 AM
Nah, I think Pioli is taking a page out of what he saw Bellichek do this past yr with the dynamic duo. And why the Jets brought Tebow in as well. The rest of the league is starting to follow suit as well.

How the hell is TeBow taking a page from Bellichick?

saphojunkie
05-02-2012, 10:58 AM
Cassel is going to be starting for the foreseeable future, so should we just forfeit the offseason altogether?

Cassel hasn't made it through a single season without injury. Our best hope is that either Quinn or Stanzi show they are capable of excelling when actually surrounded by talent. Which they will be.

Valiant
05-02-2012, 12:13 PM
I don't know what Dallas Clark has left in the tank but, if there's any gas at the bottom, he's a fine pickup (and probably won't be that pricey due to his age and injuries). Good receiving tight ends can be both a passing game's bread-and-butter AND can greatly help a QB (especially a mediocre one who likes to check down).

Checkdown? That is cassels deep ball.

whoman69
05-02-2012, 12:52 PM
Don't we already have like 24 Safeties on the roster?

If you count undrafted rookies.

Thig Lyfe
05-02-2012, 12:56 PM
RIP Dallas Clark

Micjones
05-02-2012, 02:02 PM
Clark and Moeaki are 2 different types which is great. Clark is an actual true H-back. Chris Cooley type. Moeaki is not.

Of course. That doesn't change the fact that he can keep on trucking.
He stinks.

whoman69
05-02-2012, 03:54 PM
I imagine a Dallas Clark deal would be a one year contract. The fact he has not signed with a team yet is going to drop what he can ask for.

Micjones
05-02-2012, 04:17 PM
Sign Atogwe.
Flip Clark the bird.

Chief3188
05-03-2012, 02:24 PM
Cassel is going to be starting for the foreseeable future, so should we just forfeit the offseason altogether?

If that is the case then yes. We should put all of our good players in a cryofreezer and thaw them out the day that Cassel is no longer wasting talented careers.

Rooster
05-03-2012, 03:50 PM
If that is the case then yes. We should put all of our good players in a cryofreezer and thaw them out the day that Cassel is no longer wasting talented careers.

That just might work. :hmmm:

KCBOSS1
05-03-2012, 04:04 PM
Giving Cassel absolutely no room for excuses. Beefing the line to give him time. Ridiculous receiving weapons. He may have every opportunity to climb to mediocrity.

Chocolate Hog
05-03-2012, 04:06 PM
Giving Cassel absolutely no room for excuses. Beefing the line to give him time. Ridiculous receiving weapons. He may have every opportunity to climb to mediocrity.

I feel like we say that every year.

ChiefGator
05-03-2012, 04:21 PM
Atogwe as a third safety would be mint..

What?!? Oh.. we aren't talking about this anymore?

What are we talking about?

Oh.. Cassel? Whodathunkit!

I love the way every thread ends up as a Cassel-bash.

Okie_Apparition
05-03-2012, 04:30 PM
It's a grid iron smash

BossChief
05-03-2012, 05:24 PM
It was a monster mash

whoman69
05-03-2012, 07:26 PM
I feel like we say that every year.

Put that statement in a box and rethaw it same time next year.

Chief3188
05-03-2012, 09:05 PM
Atogwe as a third safety would be mint..

What?!? Oh.. we aren't talking about this anymore?

What are we talking about?

Oh.. Cassel? Whodathunkit!

I love the way every thread ends up as a Cassel-bash.

With the way our roster is filling out it is getting to be about the last thing to bitch about. Not to mention it is our last glaring hole and with the way this team looks it is the last piece we need to contend for a few SB's. I just hope we don't let some good teams come and go with nothing to show for it due to a lack of a QB like the 90's