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Deberg_1990
05-31-2012, 07:45 AM
Hmmmmmmm



http://www.huliq.com/13303/conspiracy-new-orleans-hornets-snag-top-pick-2012-nba-draft



The Hornets, who had the 4th-best chance of winning the No. 1 pick at 13.7 percent, were chosen to select first in June's NBA Draft. The revelation puts the Hornets in a prime position to select Kentucky big man Anthony Davis, the consensus top prospect in this year's draft.

The Charlotte Bobcats, who suffered through the worst season in NBA history, held the best chance of grabbing the top pick, but unfortunately for owner Michael Jordan and company, the team fell to the second pick.

Rounding out the top five were the Washington Wizards, Cleveland Cavaliers and Sacramento Kings.

With the Hornets jumping three spots to the top selection, several eyebrows were immediately raised. New Orleans had been operated by the NBA and commissioner David Stern since 2010 before being sold to Tom Benson last month. Stern famously invoked his powers as team operator to reject a proposed trade before last season that would have sent Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers. In that deal, New Orleans would have landed Luis Scola and Kevin Martin from the Houston Rockets, as well as other draft considerations.

Several columnists immediately referenced the conflict of interest surrounding the draft lottery results.

"No. 3 pick to Washington; No. 2 to Charlotte, No. 1 to league-owned New Orleans. Conspiracy theorists sound off...now," tweeted Sam Amick, basketball writer for SI.com.

"The Fix is In! The Fix is In! Just kidding....," tweeted Aaron Bruski of NBC Universal.

Whether by luck or with the help of the commish, the Hornets will certainly accept the top pick with open arms. New Orleans limped to a 21-45 record, as Eric Gordon, the key piece acquired in the eventual Paul-to-Clippers trade, missed much of the season and failed to make an impact.

With the freshman Davis likely headed to the Big Easy, other lottery teams will turn their attention to a variety of other prospects. Davis' teammate at Kentucky, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, is considered a top-five talent, as are UConn big man Andre Drummond and Kansas power forward Thomas Robinson.

The NBA Draft takes place on Thursday, June 28, at the Prudential Center in New Jersey.

NBA Draft Lottery Results
1. New Orleans Hornets
2. Charlotte Bobcats
3. Washington Wizards
4. Cleveland Cavaliers
5. Sacramento Kings
6. Brooklyn Nets (pick traded to Portland)
7. Golden State Warriors
8. Toronto Raptors
9. Detroit Pistons
10. Minnesota Timberwolves (pick traded to New Orleans)
11. Portland Trailblazers
12. Milwaukee Bucks
13. Phoenix Suns
14. Houston Rockets

tymania
05-31-2012, 07:49 AM
I have always thought the lottery is rigged... i am a bulls fan, and they had a 1.7% chance at getting the #1 pick the year Drose(born and raised in chicago) came out of college.. and the Bulls got the #1 pick.. i mean come on, if the draft isnt fixed that is getting hella lucky!

DaKCMan AP
05-31-2012, 07:50 AM
Wouldn't be the first time.

RUSH
05-31-2012, 08:15 AM
So they let journalists, team reps into the room to see the entire process but somehow manage to fix it?

Not to mention that one of the big four accounting firms stakes its reputation each year while knowing the fix is in? Completely ridiculous. There can be a storyline for each team to say it fixed because they are all so bad and in disarray.

-King-
05-31-2012, 08:18 AM
Yep. Stern isn't stupid. He's been doing it for years.

Miles
05-31-2012, 08:23 AM
basketball reasons

chrisanna
05-31-2012, 08:26 AM
There can be a storyline for each team to say it fixed because they are all so bad and in disarray.

Molitoth
05-31-2012, 08:27 AM
The Lottery is f*cking stupid. NBA draft should mimic the NFL draft... and it shouldn't take place until after the season is over.

ILChief
05-31-2012, 08:30 AM
The worst team rarely gets the first pick

Kyle DeLexus
05-31-2012, 08:35 AM
The Lottery is f*cking stupid. NBA draft should mimic the NFL draft... and it shouldn't take place until after the season is over.

One player has a greater impact in basketball so that would promote tanking. The lottery is a safeguard to prevent that.

DA_T_84
05-31-2012, 08:41 AM
The Lottery is f*cking stupid. NBA draft should mimic the NFL draft... and it shouldn't take place until after the season is over.

It doesn't... this is just the lottery.

The draft is 6/28.

DA_T_84
05-31-2012, 08:41 AM
One player has a greater impact in basketball so that would promote tanking. The lottery is a safeguard to prevent that.

This

RUSH
05-31-2012, 08:42 AM
One player has a greater impact in basketball so that would promote tanking. The lottery is a safeguard to prevent that.

Yep. Tanking is even a huge problem now when all you get are more ping pong balls.

But if you knew you had to be the worst team to get a franchise player then it would be a complete joke.

Molitoth
05-31-2012, 10:58 AM
Yep. Tanking is even a huge problem now when all you get are more ping pong balls.

But if you knew you had to be the worst team to get a franchise player then it would be a complete joke.

Well I suppose if the Lottery is used to prevent tanking, it does the job.
I still think the solution sucks, but I can't think of anything better.

L.A. Chieffan
05-31-2012, 11:04 AM
Chris Paul veto is criminal. Stern should go to jail

Sannyasi
05-31-2012, 11:21 AM
I was really hoping Cleveland would get the number one pick again. With Irving and Davis they would have the potential to be a powerhouse in the East in a few years. Instead New Orleans is just another bad team with a good player.

whoman69
05-31-2012, 02:52 PM
While I have heard from the talking heads that such a circumstance is improbable, it can't be just a coincidence that every time a big player comes up, they happen to land with the team that the NBA would most like to see come up with that pick.

Do away with the lottery. I heard the reasons for the lottery and they're stupid. If a team is going to tank to get the first pick, they're still going to tank to get the best chance to get the first pick. The fact that the worst team only has a one in four shot of getting that pick is ridiculous. Its all theatre with no theatrics. Its like watching paint dry.

CrazyPhuD
05-31-2012, 02:53 PM
Vagina's like to bleed....it's nature....

whoman69
05-31-2012, 05:00 PM
Vagina's like to bleed....it's nature....

We're dicks! We're reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. And the Film Actors Guild are pussies. And Kim Jong Il is an asshole.

SNR
05-31-2012, 05:15 PM
I wish there would have been a lottery just in this year's NFL draft so the Colts could fucking fall to 4th overall or something like that. Fuck those guys.

Only kidding, though. The lottery is AIDS. My Timberwolves got fucked in the ass last year when the league wanted to play up Cleveland's redemption storyline. The other team to get fucked hard in past years has been the Nets.

Lottery is garbage. The worst team gets the best player. Just leave that shit alone.

L.A. Chieffan
05-31-2012, 06:02 PM
I wish there would have been a lottery just in this year's NFL draft so the Colts could fucking fall to 4th overall or something like that. Fuck those guys.

Only kidding, though. The lottery is AIDS. My Timberwolves got fucked in the ass last year when the league wanted to play up Cleveland's redemption storyline. The other team to get fucked hard in past years has been the Nets.

Lottery is garbage. The worst team gets the best player. Just leave that shit alone.

In theory you're right but let's face it, teams are going to tank and not even try to make it seem legit.

Pitt Gorilla
05-31-2012, 07:13 PM
It's nearly impossible (highly, highly improbable) that anyone will actually win a Powerball jackpot. Yet, it happens. It's much, much, MUCH more likely that the Hornets would win the NBA lottery.

SNR
05-31-2012, 07:39 PM
In theory you're right but let's face it, teams are going to tank and not even try to make it seem legit.So with accusations of the Bobcats deliberately tanking games, do you think that's what's going on?

You rarely see that in the NBA, actually. Teams that "tank" games do so because the coaching job being done is a giant miscarriage.

Buck
05-31-2012, 07:43 PM
If there was a fix, I guarantee you they did it for basketball reasons.

L.A. Chieffan
05-31-2012, 07:52 PM
So with accusations of the Bobcats deliberately tanking games, do you think that's what's going on?

You rarely see that in the NBA, actually. Teams that "tank" games do so because the coaching job being done is a giant miscarriage.

Just read about the 1984 season and why they implemented the lottery in the first place it was ugly.

Al Bundy
05-31-2012, 08:04 PM
Just read about the 1984 season and why they implemented the lottery in the first place it was ugly.

Yet teams still tank. I'm glad the Warriors tanked and were able to keep their pick this year.

L.A. Chieffan
05-31-2012, 08:07 PM
Yet teams still tank. I'm glad the Warriors tanked and were able to keep their pick this year.

They can tank but they're not guaranteed anything.

Kyle DeLexus
05-31-2012, 08:13 PM
They can tank but they're not guaranteed anything.

Just imagine the year of LeBron if the team in last was actually guaranteed to get him.

whoman69
05-31-2012, 08:17 PM
In theory you're right but let's face it, teams are going to tank and not even try to make it seem legit.

Then you start taking away picks.

Reaper16
05-31-2012, 08:19 PM
Then you start taking away picks.

But you'd have to prove that a team was tanking. And unless the organization is inept at crime (like, say, Tom Benson's New Orleans Saints) that is going to be very difficult to do.

ChiefsCountry
05-31-2012, 08:21 PM
Just imagine the year of LeBron if the team in last was actually guaranteed to get him.

Well Cleveland lucked out and finished last and actually won the lottery.

Al Bundy
05-31-2012, 08:21 PM
Then you start taking away picks.

Yeah the owners would agree to that.....

ChiefsCountry
05-31-2012, 08:22 PM
Also Anthony Davis isn't the type of player I would be bitching about having the lottery rigged for anyways.

Reaper16
05-31-2012, 08:25 PM
Also Anthony Davis isn't the type of player I would be bitching about having the lottery rigged for anyways.

Really? Dude has incredible potential. He can be a Dwight Howard-level defensive presence, and he has plenty of room to grow on the offensive end.

Valiant
05-31-2012, 08:38 PM
Well Cleveland lucked out and finished last and actually won the lottery.

Since the lottery started.. How many teams that sucked got star home state talent?? Rose, Lebron?? Any others??

ChiefsCountry
05-31-2012, 08:46 PM
Really? Dude has incredible potential. He can be a Dwight Howard-level defensive presence, and he has plenty of room to grow on the offensive end.

I see him as Marcus Camby. Great player but not someone to build your franchise around.

Reaper16
05-31-2012, 08:49 PM
I see him as Marcus Camby. Great player but not someone to build your franchise around.

TBH that's who I see Davis being on the offensive end too. But Davis certainly has a higher upside that that; he's raw both in terms of his game and in terms of his physical frame. He might be Camby at worst.

KC_Connection
05-31-2012, 10:14 PM
Anthony Davis has the potential to be among the best defensive players in the NBA and he's still growing his game immensely on the offensive end. He's a franchise-changer for sure.

SNR
05-31-2012, 10:44 PM
How are the NBA picks slotted? Will Anthony Davis have enough money to buy an eyebrow wax?

DaKCMan AP
06-01-2012, 06:28 AM
Interesting perspective:

Does the NBA Really Need a Draft?

By KEVIN CLARK

The New Orleans Hornets won just 32% of their games last season and ranked 24th among the NBA's 30 teams in attendance. The team has been such a financial mess that the NBA, which took it over last year, had to run its operations all season while looking for a buyer. They were, in short, not a well-run franchise.

So here's their reward: On Wednesday, the Hornets earned the right to draft one of the most surefire superstars in years, Kentucky's Anthony Davis.

The concept of a player draft isn't unique to the NBA—it's a fixture of every major North American team sport. For the most part, drafts are a fair way to promote competitive parity between teams: They prevent rich ones from hoarding talent while allowing struggling teams to have the first crack at the best young players.

But when it comes to the modern NBA, the draft (and its much-ballyhooed "lottery" system) has created something unique to major sports leagues: A universe of perverse incentives for teams where apathy is encouraged, mediocrity is rewarded and many franchises are all but guaranteed to be kept in a state of chaos. To put the finest possible point on this: It's getting awfully hard to understand why the NBA holds a draft in the first place.

Joe Price, an assistant professor of economics at Brigham Young University, who co-wrote a study on the competitiveness of NBA teams, said the league's draft creates a "huge incentive to lose."

The NBA's draft is a pretty big deal to begin with. Since basketball teams put just five players on the floor, it's possible for one superstar to have a grossly outsized impact. The numbers support this: Of the 64 teams to make the NBA finals since 1980, 50% had at least one No. 1 overall pick on the roster. Over the same span, only 23% of teams that made the NHL Finals and 29% of World Series teams has a top overall pick.

Moreover, NBA teams that select first in the draft improved their winning percentages by an average of 20% in the third season after the pick. (By contrast, NHL teams that selected a player first overall since 1980 were actually 6% worse in the third season after the pick.)

Knowing this, it isn't surprising that when a sure-thing star like LeBron James or Kentucky's Davis comes available in the draft, this person has the potential to become the holy grail of sports: A magic potion that, when applied, instantly transforms a losing team into a winner—all while helping the team's owner make a tidy profit.

And because the NBA's labor rules place a cap on how much rookies can earn, this incredible boost comes to the lucky team at a cost that's less than what the market would bear.

In the case of James and the Cleveland Cavaliers (the team that drafted him in 2003) and possibly Davis and the Hornets in the upcoming June 28 draft, the first pick isn't just crucial, it's arguably worth more than the franchise itself.

The result of this system is that getting the first pick in the draft has become the indisputably best way to build a team. Teams that are bad, like the Hornets, have no better option than to do no real planning whatsoever, keep losing and keep praying they get the No. 1 pick.

Of course, there's a dark side to this savior-based economy: The saviors aren't always thrilled about their lot. Super talents who get drafted by these dysfunctional teams don't generally want to stay. As soon as they approach free agency, they often go to great lengths to flee. In recent years, a growing number of top-five picks have left their original teams, often acrimoniously, for teams in larger media markets. In the last two years, James (Cavaliers to Heat), Carmelo Anthony (Nuggets to Knicks), Chris Paul (Hornets to Clippers) and Deron Williams (Jazz to Nets) have all exited the teams that drafted them, leaving them in a state similar to when they arrived.

To lessen the temptation for teams to lose games in order to secure the top draft pick, the NBA in 1985 instituted a "lottery" system. Today the worst team in the league has only a 25% chance to get the first pick. This year's drawing, performed Wednesday, ended up with the Hornets getting the nod, even though they didn't have the league's worst record.

But even so, just having a small chance to get the top pick can be a huge distraction for NBA teams—one that prevents them from making any long-term plans. After all, if you get the top pick, that's your strategy. If you don't, you have to do something else altogether. But in any case, you're crazy to do anything before you find out.

All this points to one radical question: Shouldn't the NBA just eliminate the draft and allow everyone to enter the league as a free agent?

With just two rounds, there's not much of an NBA draft anyhow. And since teams operate under a salary cap, it would be impossible for a rich owner in a big market to hoard all the expensive talent. High draft picks might not be so eager to bolt if they were allowed to choose where they play.

It's not clear that killing the draft would change the distribution of players that much: It's likely that the same struggling teams would be more willing to pay top dollar for rookies. Jerry Hausman, an M.I.T. economics professor who studied Michael Jordan's impact on the NBA, said that even if there was no draft and players entered the league only through free agency, the salary cap (and the finite number of shots a team can take in a game) would still prevent teams from "stacking" superstars and creating dynasties.

Putting these rookies on the open market might also create cost pressure that would force teams to get better at scouting. If this season taught us anything, it's that NBA scouts are often blind to talent. Jeremy Lin of the New York Knicks, who caught fire this season, went undrafted out of Harvard.

There is absolutely no groundswell to kill the draft. The league and its players union didn't respond to requests for comment. Billy King, the general manager of the Brooklyn Nets, said the draft is necessary for franchises on hard times.

In some cases, the draft has worked: Top picks like Tim Duncan in San Antonio and Derrick Rose in Chicago have helped their teams rebound, all while seeming happy to be there.

But until the system changes, more hapless NBA teams will take the same approach to teambuilding: crossing their fingers.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303640104577438624054678832.html?mod=djemITP_h