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Phobia
06-10-2012, 12:16 PM
Dave is gonna get some mod abuse if he keeps evading filters.

Clay's Mult
06-10-2012, 12:34 PM
He is! He's totally hot, too! LOL! I like Matt, give him a chance...

Baconeater
06-10-2012, 12:36 PM
He is! He's totally hot, too! LOL! I like Matt, give him a chance...
Not buying this one at all either.

Count Zarth
06-10-2012, 12:37 PM
Can't believe anyone still likes Cassel.....or defends him...

Clay's Mult
06-10-2012, 12:38 PM
Not buying this one at all either.

LOL! You couldn't afford me...

BigMeatballDave
06-10-2012, 01:03 PM
Dave is gonna get some mod abuse if he keeps evading filters.

F.A.G. Is an acronym. :D

Count Zarth
06-10-2012, 01:10 PM
F.A.G. Is an acronym. :D

It's also a ball bearings company near Springfield.

BigMeatballDave
06-10-2012, 01:33 PM
It's also a ball bearings company near Springfield.

I know. Its a German company part of the Schaeffler Group.

I used to work for a company that made some of their products.

Chocolate Hog
06-10-2012, 02:04 PM
Dave is gonna get some mod abuse if he keeps evading filters.

Thats cool you give him a warning but automatically suspend others.

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BigMeatballDave
06-10-2012, 02:14 PM
Thats cool you give him a warning but automatically suspend others.

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:deevee:

milkman
06-10-2012, 03:08 PM
Thats cool you give him a warning but automatically suspend others.

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I'm guessing it's fun banning whining little bitches.

Coogs
06-10-2012, 03:49 PM
Those are pretty damning numbers, but to me, the more damning number is the fact that in 39 games as a starter, he has 1 win against teams that had 10 or more wins, against the Dolphins in '08, who finished 11-5 and won the AFC East.

The more I think about your post, the more I think the two sets of stats I posted lead directly to Cassel only having the one victrory over a team with 10 or more wins.

whoman69
06-10-2012, 04:31 PM
The more I think about your post, the more I think the two sets of stats I posted lead directly to Cassel only having the one victrory over a team with 10 or more wins.

He has never beaten a 10 win team in a Chiefs uni. I could care less how good he looked leading a team that went 16-0 the prior season.

Coogs
06-10-2012, 04:34 PM
He has never beaten a 10 win team in a Chiefs uni. I could care less how good he looked leading a team that went 16-0 the prior season.

Exactly! Same here.

SNR
06-10-2012, 04:48 PM
I know. Its a German company part of the Schaeffler Group.

I used to work for a company that made some of their products.

Yeah! And guess what substance Kumho uses to make their tires!

Mr_Tomahawk
06-10-2012, 07:41 PM
Just in case...

http://www.foxsportskansascity.com/06/09/12/Cassel-a-winner-but-will-he-win/landing_chiefs.html?blockID=743958&feedID=5089

Cassel a 'winner,' but will he win?


The Chiefs have plenty of nice things to say about Matt Cassel -- just nothing too terribly nice. (Christopher Hanewinckel-US PRESSWIRE)

Lordy, you could hear the snickers from Topeka all the way to Laguna Beach. New Kansas City Chiefs offensive coordinator Brian Daboll called Matt Cassel a "winner" the other day. Then he did it two more times, presumably for emphasis.

Presumably.

Regardless, half the city responded by rolling its eyes. The other half groaned.

Now, in his defense, Daboll pointed out that Cassel was one of just nine quarterbacks Tom Brady and Ben Roethlisberger chief among them who have won at least 10 games in a season twice over the last four years.

It's a hell of a stat.

That is, until you read the fine print.

For one, it neglects to consider the fact that, in those other two years, Cassel's record was 8-16. For another, of those nine "winners," just two Aaron Rodgers and Cassel also had a losing season on their resume over that time.

And only Cassel had two sub-.500 campaigns under his belt. "Winners" don't go 4-11.

"I think Matt has proven he can get a team to the playoffs and win a division," coach Romeo Crennel said. "He has shown that he can do it. Now it's up to us to get him to do it again."

The message is clear: We've laid out the tools, son. Now go build something.

The past six months have been all about fortifying the foundation, shaving off the excuses, bit by bit. Like most contending NFL rosters and this one, on paper, is 100 percent bona fide perfectly legit general manager Scott Pioli has wisely rebuilt at some of the most critical (and oft-injured) positions, toting a quality pair of nearly everything important. The shopping was fruitful; the upgrades roll almost all the way across the board.

Everywhere except, most noticeably, at quarterback. Brady Quinn knows the offense, but his career mark as a starter sits at a less-than-robust 3-9. Ricky Stanzi remains a tantalizing unknown at this level. Alex Tanney is Annie Oakley when it comes to hitting trash cans, but what about living, breathing, running targets?

This fall sets up as a screaming referendum on Cassel, who turned 30 last month, as much as it is on the Chiefs' current front office. They're pushing all their chips on No. 7 in red. You just wonder if they're doing so happily. One minute, Pioli goes on local radio and compares Cassel to Len Dawson, the franchise's gold standard. The next, he admits to chasing Peyton Manning and won't apologize for it. Is it all a bunch of smoke? Or a brilliant psychological ploy?

"If we've got 52 guys every night that go to be a little bit uncomfortable, that are looking forward to that competition the next day," Cassel allowed earlier this spring, "maybe (if it) makes them work out a little bit harder or study the playbook a little bit better, we're going to have a pretty damn good football team."

How good? Well, that remains to be seen. Like the Vikings and Browns, the Chiefs are one of the NFL's great cursed January franchises over the past two decades, just a solitary signal-caller, the legendary Joe Montana, was able to rise above it and carry them to at least one postseason victory. Cassel, to his credit, has already led them to the party once. You get the sense that, to finally sway the populace, he's going to have to keep them there through at least a round. For better or worse, that's the bar.

So far, the Kansas City ledger shows 18 wins and 21 losses with Cassel behind the wheel. A winner? Sort of. Sometimes. That depends. With Brady and Roethlisberger, you count the rings. With Cassel, you count the qualifiers.

Perhaps it would be more accurate to say our man Matt is the quarterbacking version of the protagonist from that old nursery rhyme, The Little Girl With A Curl: When he's good, he's very, very good. And when he isn't, run and duck.

"I know he's a good quarterback," offered cornerback Stanford Routt, who'd squared off against Cassel with the Oakland Raiders before joining the Chiefs in February. "I don't really know about a lot of the stuff going on about the quarterback (position), or a controversy or anything like that. But he was just fine to me any time I was going against him."

Just fine? Is that good enough?

Count Zarth
06-10-2012, 07:52 PM
That's teh same dude who wrote the pro-Stanzi article.

REVEAL YOURSELF, SEAN KEELER

Coogs
06-10-2012, 08:10 PM
"If we've got 52 guys every night that go to be a little bit uncomfortable, that are looking forward to that competition the next day," Cassel allowed earlier this spring, "maybe (if it) makes them work out a little bit harder or study the playbook a little bit better, we're going to have a pretty damn good football team.". For better or worse, that's the bar.


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So far, the Kansas City ledger shows 18 wins and 21 losses with Cassel behind the wheel.

Matt is talking about the other 52 guys needing competition, but not himself? :shake:

The bolded part just really pisses me off! Especially the "them" part.



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And the second part. He has 18 wins and 22 losses. For some damn reason the most important game of his career in KC... the loss to the Ravens... does not count. Just because it was not a regular season game, it is still the most important one on his resume... and it was a loss.

KCBOSS1
06-10-2012, 09:20 PM
169.6 yards per game over pro career. Yeah, I would say the spin is on. But what is daboll supposed to say, "yeah, I've got a just below mediocre quarterback."? Honestly I believe that Cassel has earned the right for a full on qb competition with no privilege. He should be the highest paid 3rd string QB in the league IMO. I like the guy and wish the best for him and I think the best is a clipboard.

Gonzo
06-10-2012, 10:23 PM
Thats cool you give him a warning but automatically suspend others.

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Oh Billay, you're the Billayest...

Chocolate Hog
06-11-2012, 12:48 AM
I'm guessing it's fun banning whining little bitches.

Then you would have been permabanned by now

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