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alnorth
06-08-2012, 12:30 PM
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http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/images/logos/80x80/kc.png

Loss, (3-7) Luke Hochevar 6IP 4R 4ER 1BB 3K
Tim Collins 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K
Louis Coleman 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K

VS.

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/images/logos/80x80/pit.png

Win, (4-6) Eric Bedard 7IP 2R 2ER 3BB 5K
Hold, (15) Jason Grilli 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K
Save, (16) Joel Hanrahan 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K

Home Runs

none

Starting Lineups

KC

1. Alex Gordon, LF
2. Yuniesky Betancourt, 2B
3. Billy Butler, 1B
4. Mike Moustakas, 3B
5. Jeff Francoeur, CF
6. Eric Hosmer, RF
7. Alcides Escobar, SS
8. Humberto Quintero, C
8. Clint Robinson, ph
Major League Debut
9. Luke Hochevar, P
9. Johnny Giavotella, ph
9. Tim Collins, P
9. Louis Coleman, P

PIT

1. Alex Presley, LF
2. Neil Walker, 2B
3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
4. Garrett Jones, 1B
4. Casey McGehee, 1B
5. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
6. Jose Tabata, RF
7. Rod Barajas, C
8. Clint Barmes, SS
9. Eric Bedard, P
9. Josh Harrison, ph
9. Jason Grilli, P
9. Joel Hanrahan, P

DeezNutz
06-08-2012, 12:33 PM
Kyle Davies on the bump for KC. An historically bad offense knocked him around last time out, but he could fair better against the NL.

HemiEd
06-08-2012, 12:35 PM
Go Royals, they still have a chance to win a 100 games.

mr. tegu
06-08-2012, 01:10 PM
We got this.

gblowfish
06-08-2012, 01:10 PM
The Pirates have a winning record? Wow!

Bowser
06-08-2012, 01:37 PM
Hosmer in right field. IN YOUR FACE WILL MYERS

alnorth
06-08-2012, 01:50 PM
That pitcher whose name can't be spoken, but rhymes with "Hochevar" got a dreaded vote of confidence today from Yost.

DeezNutz
06-08-2012, 01:54 PM
That pitcher whose name can't be spoken, but rhymes with "Hochevar" got a dreaded vote of confidence today from Yost.

DFA that bitch and don't think twice.

mikey23545
06-08-2012, 02:15 PM
Go Royals, they still have a chance to win a 100 games.

Hell, they still have a chance to win 131 games.

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-08-2012, 03:10 PM
The Pirates have a winning record? Wow!

Thier Time

ImAWalkingCorpse
06-08-2012, 04:41 PM
I'm a life long Pirates fan, we have suffered the same fate as the Royals for a long long time. Hopefully we beat up on Hochevar.

cabletech94
06-08-2012, 04:42 PM
alnorth with the good juju!

let's go royals, let's go!!!! stomp some pie-RAT-ass!!!!

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 04:46 PM
Hosmer in right, Frenchy in center and Country Buffet at first. Hope the defense doesn't cost us the game

alnorth
06-08-2012, 04:47 PM
Hosmer in right, Frenchy in center and Country Buffet at first. Hope the defense doesn't cost us the game

Considering our pitcher, we need the runs.

Demonpenz
06-08-2012, 05:05 PM
Dyson sucked in center, don't let the fact that he looks like he would be good in center fool you.

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 05:05 PM
Considering our pitcher, we need the runs.

It would be nice if the Royals would start scoring some runs. Not sure how having only 8 hitters will translate tonight.

alnorth
06-08-2012, 05:06 PM
Top 1st

Gordon strikes out (swinging)
Betancourt strikes out (swinging)
Butler walks
Moustakas pops out to second

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 1st

Presley strikes out (looking)
Walker singles to right
McCutchen grounds out to third, Walker to second
Jones doubles to right, Walker scores
Alvarez walks
Tabata grounds out to pitcher

1 run, 2 hits

alnorth
06-08-2012, 05:07 PM
It would be nice if the Royals would start scoring some runs. Not sure how having only 8 hitters will translate tonight.

Wont take much. The Pirates have, by far, the worst offense in all of baseball. However, their pitching has been awesome this year, which is why they are over .500

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 05:09 PM
Wont take much. The Pirates have, by far, the worst offense in all of baseball. However, their pitching has been awesome this year, which is why they are over .500

Small ball night, huh?

petegz28
06-08-2012, 05:10 PM
Yuni gets another shot to make an error tonight

alnorth
06-08-2012, 05:11 PM
Small ball night, huh?

hey, if we lose, it'll be over quick

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-08-2012, 05:12 PM
Why would they hit a turd like that 2nd?

SPchief
06-08-2012, 05:14 PM
Good AB Billy

SPchief
06-08-2012, 05:15 PM
Why would they hit a turd like that 2nd?

He drew the 2 ball in Neds Lineup Lottery

alnorth
06-08-2012, 05:15 PM
If you are hoping we take tons of pitches and get Bedard out of the game, dont bother pinning your hopes on that. Pittsburgh's bullpen is wicked-good

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 05:16 PM
No Hud tonight. Already a win

alnorth
06-08-2012, 05:18 PM
McCutchen is OPSing .952, he's the only good hitter they have.

Jones is at .736, everyone else is WAY below .750. This lineup is hilariously bad.

edit: Alvarez is a classic all-or-nothing slugger. 8 HR, but .200 AVG. 13 walks, 61 K's

Bambi
06-08-2012, 05:24 PM
wonder if a real right fielder coulda got to that

alnorth
06-08-2012, 05:27 PM
wonder if a real right fielder coulda got to that

It was a liner that hit the top of the wall. I really doubt it.

AndChiefs
06-08-2012, 05:28 PM
Hochevar you loser.

alnorth
06-08-2012, 05:28 PM
Top 2nd

Francoeur grounds out to shortstop
Hosmer walks
Escobar strikes out (swinging)
Quintero pops out to shortstop

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 2nd

Barajas singles to right, Barajas to second on an Error by RF
Barmes singles to center, Barajas scores, Barmes to second on the throw home
Bedard sacrifices (bunt) to pitcher, Barmes to third
Presley grounds out to first
Walker singles to right, Barmes scores
Walker steals second
McCutchen flies out to left

2 runs, 3 hits, 1 error

SPchief
06-08-2012, 05:29 PM
wonder if a real right fielder coulda got to that

I'm guessing you didn't see the play, Ricky Henderson in his prime couldn't have gotten to that.

SPchief
06-08-2012, 05:34 PM
Good AB by Hosmer

ImAWalkingCorpse
06-08-2012, 05:35 PM
Pirates are struggling at the plate. I was hoping they could have gotten to Luke for 3 or 4 runs.

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 05:36 PM
Pirates are struggling at the plate. I was hoping they could have gotten to Luke for 3 or 4 runs.

Patience

ImAWalkingCorpse
06-08-2012, 05:37 PM
McCutchen is OPSing .952, he's the only good hitter they have.

Jones is at .736, everyone else is WAY below .750. This lineup is hilariously bad.

edit: Alvarez is a classic all-or-nothing slugger. 8 HR, but .200 AVG. 13 walks, 61 K's

We are facing a pitcher that gave up a boatload of runs to an even worse hitting team in the A's. Hopefully he will be our (the Pirates) remedy.

SPchief
06-08-2012, 05:37 PM
Pirates are struggling at the plate. I was hoping they could have gotten to Luke for 3 or 4 runs.

Give it a few innings.

alnorth
06-08-2012, 05:39 PM
We are facing a pitcher that gave up a boatload of runs to an even worse hitting team in the A's. Hopefully he will be our (the Pirates) remedy.

I'm going by Runs Scored. The Pirates have everyone beat by a mile on offensive ineptitude.

ImAWalkingCorpse
06-08-2012, 05:41 PM
I'm going by Runs Scored. The Pirates have everyone beat by a mile on offensive ineptitude.

Ohh I know. The offense is difficult to watch.

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 05:41 PM
There's 1 error

Shogun
06-08-2012, 05:41 PM
lol the OF isnt hosmers spot

alnorth
06-08-2012, 05:43 PM
That was an experience-induced error. A more experienced outfielder woulda conceded the single and played it on the hop

ImAWalkingCorpse
06-08-2012, 05:43 PM
Wow.

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 05:43 PM
Quintero fucks up again

SPchief
06-08-2012, 05:43 PM
Did he not tag him?

KCUnited
06-08-2012, 05:44 PM
We got our clown pants on.

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 05:44 PM
Did he not tag him?

Apparently he couldn't bend over

alnorth
06-08-2012, 05:44 PM
Did he not tag him?

He didn't argue, so he must have missed him

petegz28
06-08-2012, 05:45 PM
Funny, that happens to us and we're out

AndChiefs
06-08-2012, 05:45 PM
Wow quintero

ImAWalkingCorpse
06-08-2012, 05:45 PM
He didn't argue, so he must have missed him

He missed him. Slow ass Rod Barajas

petegz28
06-08-2012, 05:46 PM
Hoch wil give up 5 or 6 before he is pulled

Shogun
06-08-2012, 05:47 PM
Hoch wil give up 5 or 6 before he is pulled

thats just a night in the life of Luke Hochever. #YOLO

alnorth
06-08-2012, 05:47 PM
Hoch wil give up 5 or 6 before he is pulled

probably only 3 with that offense.

However, considering their pitching, it'll feel like 5 or 6 runs

Shogun
06-08-2012, 05:50 PM
yuniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

SPchief
06-08-2012, 05:51 PM
Yuni

Shogun
06-08-2012, 05:51 PM
lol

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 05:52 PM
Hoch trying to get his 100 pitches over in 4 innings

alnorth
06-08-2012, 05:52 PM
That last hit just made the error irrelevant. (statistically) All runs are earned

BigCatDaddy
06-08-2012, 05:52 PM
Sorry if repost but put his fucking ass on waivers and be done with it. I'd rather watch Verdugo pitch then this worthless piece of shit. I'm done with this game so night all!

petegz28
06-08-2012, 05:53 PM
WTF do we play Yuni? Seriously? This guy costs us at least 1 run a game if not more.

AndChiefs
06-08-2012, 05:53 PM
Pathetic

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 05:53 PM
Luke Hochevar is no Jeff Francis.

alnorth
06-08-2012, 05:53 PM
Top 3rd

Hochevar bunt grounds out to catcher
Gordon walks
Betancourt doubles to center, Gordon scores
Butler flies out to left
Moustakas singles to left, Betancourt scores
Francoeur flies out to left

2 runs, 2 hits

Bottom 3rd

Jones flies out to left
Alvarez doubles to center
Tabata hits an infield single to shortstop, Alvarez to third
Tabata picked off and caught stealing 1-3-4, out at second, Alvarez scores during the rundown
Barajas grounds out to catcher

1 run, 2 hits

Mr. Laz
06-08-2012, 05:53 PM
Who sucks more stank ass ... Betancourt or Hochevar?

petegz28
06-08-2012, 05:53 PM
Sorry if repost but put his ****ing ass on waivers and be done with it. I'd rather watch Verdugo pitch then this worthless piece of shit. I'm done with this game so night all!

I'm not far behind you. If we don't do something soon I am going to go watch my grass grow

Shogun
06-08-2012, 05:54 PM
Luke Hochevar is no Jeff Francis.

Jeff Francis was a better pitcher than Luke Hochever. You can quote me on that.

AndChiefs
06-08-2012, 05:54 PM
Who sucks more stank ass ... Betancourt or Hochevar?

Cut them both.

alnorth
06-08-2012, 05:54 PM
Cant even pitch against the Pirates. OK, now I want to see this turd give up a bunch of runs to the worst offense in baseball, get that ERA back over 7.

Shogun
06-08-2012, 05:54 PM
USELESS CANT EVEN BUNT

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 05:54 PM
Jeff Francis was a better pitcher than Luke Hochever. You can quote me on that.

Me too since that's what I was saying.

Ceej
06-08-2012, 05:55 PM
"Go AHEAD and help yourself here Hoch."

Sorry guys. Needed a Rex-ism.

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 05:57 PM
Dyson like play in center there

Shogun
06-08-2012, 05:57 PM
yuni why do you break my heart like this. stop toying with my emotions

Mr. Laz
06-08-2012, 05:58 PM
Yuni makes up for another run he gave away.

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-08-2012, 06:00 PM
I'm guessing you didn't see the play, Ricky Henderson in his prime couldn't have gotten to that.

ROFL Classic Wicked

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 06:01 PM
Nice hit Moose

SPchief
06-08-2012, 06:02 PM
Small ball!

SPchief
06-08-2012, 06:04 PM
Damn, hit it right at him. Lets see if Luke can hold them to 1 here.

alnorth
06-08-2012, 06:06 PM
Rany Jazayerli ‏@jazayerli

Want to understand how bad Yuni's defense is? Watch Neil Walker's RBI "single" in the 2nd. Forget the stats-don't the Royals use their eyes?

More Yuni hate. How was he ever a major league shortstop?

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 06:09 PM
Butler runs harder after a popup than he does on the bases

SPchief
06-08-2012, 06:10 PM
Hey luke, that SS behind you, he's pretty good. You might want to let him do the work for you.

ImAWalkingCorpse
06-08-2012, 06:11 PM
Look at the thighs on the Pirates ball girl.

Shogun
06-08-2012, 06:11 PM
Hey luke, that SS behind you, he's pretty good. You might want to let him do the work for you.

its yuni

AndChiefs
06-08-2012, 06:11 PM
Can we cut players mid game?

kstater
06-08-2012, 06:11 PM
:facepalm:

Fucking retards.

petegz28
06-08-2012, 06:11 PM
JFC....are you serious?

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 06:11 PM
JFC. Yuni costs another run

SPchief
06-08-2012, 06:11 PM
:facepalm:

mr. tegu
06-08-2012, 06:12 PM
Wow just wow.

SPchief
06-08-2012, 06:12 PM
its yuni

Escobar is at SS

petegz28
06-08-2012, 06:13 PM
WTF is this guy int he god damn game? Between him and Hoch they couldn't get laid in a French whore house on nickel night

sedated
06-08-2012, 06:14 PM
Gotta love this national league lineup. So far Hosmer, Yuni, and Butler have all cost is runs that we wouldn't have given up if the normal guys were in their normal spots.

Shogun
06-08-2012, 06:14 PM
Escobar is at SS

OH. I'm not really paying attention. As NL ball isnt really baseball.

ROFL

alnorth
06-08-2012, 06:15 PM
Top 4th

Hosmer grounds out to first
Escobar grounds out to shortstop
Quintero singles to right
Hochevar flies out to right

0 runs, 1 hit

Bottom 4th

Barmes flies out to left
Bedard strikes out (swinging)
Presley flies out to left

0 runs, 0 hits

Mr. Laz
06-08-2012, 06:15 PM
butler's slow ass cost the Royals a run in that mess ... Hosmer catches the ball and tags the guy out and we don't need another throw. The guy doesn't have time to break for home.

:cuss:

SPchief
06-08-2012, 06:16 PM
JFC. Yuni costs another run

That was on Billy not looking down the 3rd base runner.

OmahaChief
06-08-2012, 06:17 PM
Gotta love this national league lineup. So far Hosmer, Yuni, and Butler have all cost is runs that we wouldn't have given up if the normal guys were in their normal spots.

I like to blame Ned, it was his idea to do all this crap.

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 06:17 PM
That was on Billy not looking down the 3rd base runner.

Escobar would have gunned his ass down at home

petegz28
06-08-2012, 06:18 PM
I think this experiment by Yost has a big fucking F all over it. I don't give a shit if Billy has to sit for a few games

Archie F. Swin
06-08-2012, 06:18 PM
just tuned in...anything of interest happen so far?

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 06:19 PM
Quintero gets a fucking hit when nobody's on base

SPchief
06-08-2012, 06:19 PM
Escobar would have gunned his ass down at home

He's not going home if Billy looks over there.

lewdog
06-08-2012, 06:19 PM
Do they have stats on teams that get the most base hits with 2 outs?

Bowser
06-08-2012, 06:19 PM
just tuned in...anything of interest happen so far?

Hochevar still sucks, if you haven't figured that one out yet.

mr. tegu
06-08-2012, 06:19 PM
At least Quintero got on so that Hoch could be the last out.

alnorth
06-08-2012, 06:21 PM
Escobar would have gunned his ass down at home

ehh, that woulda been really, really hard, if not impossible. Guy took off as soon as Butler got the ball. Butler simply didn't look at 3rd at all.

Archie F. Swin
06-08-2012, 06:21 PM
Wait, did Hoch swing at the first pitch?

mr. tegu
06-08-2012, 06:22 PM
I don't have good feeling about this game or series. We have been playing decent and clawing our way back towards .500 but this is just the kind of series we will get swept in.

alnorth
06-08-2012, 06:22 PM
nyah nyah, betcha cant score again Pirates! Hoch is gonna own you guys the rest of this night! Go ahead, prove me wrong.

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 06:22 PM
ehh, that woulda been really, really hard, if not impossible. Guy took off as soon as Butler got the ball. Butler simply didn't look at 3rd at all.

Don't doubt my man. He's done some things at short that I don't know if I've ever seen before

SPchief
06-08-2012, 06:24 PM
ehh, that woulda been really, really hard, if not impossible. Guy took off as soon as Butler got the ball. Butler simply didn't look at 3rd at all.

I know it's fun to bag on Yuni, but clearly that was on Billy and Stonestooge can't admit it.

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 06:25 PM
I know it's fun to bag on Yuni, but clearly that was on Billy and Stonestooge can't admit it.

Oh I'll admit it. But it's more fun to get after Yuni

Archie F. Swin
06-08-2012, 06:26 PM
While I haven't been there...PNC just might be my favorite park in the majors.

alnorth
06-08-2012, 06:27 PM
Top 5th

Gordon singles to right
Betancourt grounds out to third, Gordon to second
Butler strikes out (looking)
Moustakas fouls out to first

0 runs, 1 hit

Bottom 5th

Walker singles to right
McCutchen grounds out to third, Walker to second
Jones grounds out to first, Walker to third
Alvarez grounds out to pitcher

0 runs, 1 hit

AndChiefs
06-08-2012, 06:28 PM
Wow hoch didn't give up a run. Sign him to an extension!

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 06:28 PM
While I haven't been there...PNC just might be my favorite park in the majors.

I haven't been there either but it looks amazing on tv and in pics and the view of the skyline is awesome.

SPchief
06-08-2012, 06:29 PM
Yost out to get the weather report.

SPchief
06-08-2012, 06:30 PM
His foot was off

mr. tegu
06-08-2012, 06:30 PM
Why is Yuni so slow!

Archie F. Swin
06-08-2012, 06:32 PM
for me, the ultimate WS would be Royals v Pirates

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 06:36 PM
for me, the ultimate WS would be Royals v Pirates

I don't know. Beating the redturds again would be awesome, because we get to enjoy the butthurt here in Missouri

ImAWalkingCorpse
06-08-2012, 06:38 PM
PNC is a beautiful ballpark.

SPchief
06-08-2012, 06:39 PM
Yuni!

Ceej
06-08-2012, 06:40 PM
I long for the days of Chris Getz.

AndChiefs
06-08-2012, 06:41 PM
Cut. him.

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 06:42 PM
I don't know. Beating the redturds again would be awesome, because we get to enjoy the butthurt here in Missouri

That. Although if we could make it to a WS again I wouldn't care who we played.

Royals vs. Cubs would be fun.

SPchief
06-08-2012, 06:45 PM
WTF ump? Dead center

alnorth
06-08-2012, 06:47 PM
Top 6th

Francoeur strikes out (swinging)
Hosmer singles to left
Escobar grounds out to first, Hosmer to second
Quintero grounds out to third

0 runs, 1 hit

Bottom 6th

Tabata singles to center
Tabata caught stealing 2-6, out at second
Barajas strikes out (swinging)
Barmes grounds out to pitcher

0 runs, 1 hit

petegz28
06-08-2012, 06:50 PM
Did French swing at 1 pitch in the zone?

RockChalk
06-08-2012, 06:57 PM
Did French swing at 1 pitch in the zone?

Does he ever?

RockChalk
06-08-2012, 06:59 PM
If Hoch can make it through this inning, Clint Robinson may get his first major league AB

Edit: Nevermind. Wasn't thinking of lefty lefty matchup.

alnorth
06-08-2012, 07:03 PM
Top 7th

Johnny Giavotella bats for Hochevar

Giavotella flies out to center
Gordon grounds out to second 4-1
Betancourt grounds out to third

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 7th

Tim Collins relieves Hochevar

Josh Harrison bats for Bedard

Harrison flies out to left
Presley grounds out to second
Walker strikes out (swinging)

0 runs, 0 hits

Shogun
06-08-2012, 07:13 PM
cant wait to see if tiny tim can hit

Archie F. Swin
06-08-2012, 07:14 PM
cant wait to see if tiny tim can hit
small zone, shouldn't swing

alnorth
06-08-2012, 07:16 PM
Top 8th

Casey McGehee replaces Jones at 1B

Jason Grilli relieves Bedard

Butler grounds out to first 3-1
Moustakas flies out to center
Francoeur strikes out (swinging)

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 8th

Louis Coleman relieves Collins

McCutchen strikes out (looking)
McGehee singles to left
Alvarez flies out to left
Tabata grounds out to third

0 runs, 1 hit

RockChalk
06-08-2012, 07:23 PM
nothing close to the zone for Frenchy but he's hacking away, god bless his little heart

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 07:25 PM
WHERE IS OUR FUCKING OFFENSE?????????

RockChalk
06-08-2012, 07:25 PM
WHERE IS OUR ****ING OFFENSE?????????

We look like we mailed it in about 3 or 4 innings ago. Must have some big post-game plans in Pittsburgh tonight

petegz28
06-08-2012, 07:27 PM
so in the last 3 games we have scored 5 runs...yes...5...stellar...brilliant even

ImAWalkingCorpse
06-08-2012, 07:29 PM
so in the last 3 games we have scored 5 runs...yes...5...stellar...brilliant even

That's Pirates like.

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 07:29 PM
so in the last 3 games we have scored 5 runs...yes...5...stellar...brilliant even

I thought I heard them say the Royals scored 17 total runs for the last homestand. 6 games right?

RockChalk
06-08-2012, 07:30 PM
If we were playing our regular defense, this game would either be 2-1 or tied 2-2 right now. Thanks Ned. Batting Billy has really paid off tonight.

alnorth
06-08-2012, 07:32 PM
If we were playing our regular defense, this game would either be 2-1 or tied 2-2 right now. Thanks Ned. Batting Billy has really paid off tonight.

Maybe 2-2. Hosmer's error didn't end up mattering

petegz28
06-08-2012, 07:33 PM
Maybe 2-2. Hosmer's error didn't end up mattering

If we were playing our regular defense Hosmer is not in the OF to make the error

kstater
06-08-2012, 07:34 PM
If we were playing our regular defense, this game would either be 2-1 or tied 2-2 right now. Thanks Ned. Batting Billy has really paid off tonight.

JFC, I can't believe you're arguing not playing our best hitter.

alnorth
06-08-2012, 07:34 PM
If we were playing our regular defense Hosmer is not in the OF to make the error

I only count 2 runs that maybe dont score. The extra 90 feet in the inning with the error didn't matter with the hits that followed. The 2-run 2nd still would have been 2 runs.

RockChalk
06-08-2012, 07:35 PM
Maybe 2-2. Hosmer's error didn't end up mattering

I thought Barajas took 2nd on the double, then he scored on the single from Barmes, no?

He should've been out at the plate, but Quintero is full of teh suck

alnorth
06-08-2012, 07:37 PM
I thought Barajas took 2nd on the double, then he scored on the single from Barmes, no?

He should've been out at the plate, but Quintero is full of teh suck

single after that made the error irrelevant. That run was earned.

RockChalk
06-08-2012, 07:38 PM
JFC, I can't believe you're arguing not playing our best hitter.

Well given his plate appearances this evening, we sacrificed our defense and got nothing in return. I understand that Butler is our best hitter, but the defensive philosophy isn't workout out tonight. In fact, it's cost us two runs.

alnorth
06-08-2012, 07:40 PM
Well given his plate appearances this evening, we sacrificed our defense and got nothing in return. I understand that Butler is our best hitter, but the defensive philosophy isn't workout out tonight. In fact, it's cost us two runs.

If you dont want Hosmer in right, then sit Hosmer. You dont sit Butler.

ImAWalkingCorpse
06-08-2012, 07:40 PM
Alright. See you tomorrow night guys.

alnorth
06-08-2012, 07:40 PM
Top 9th

Joel Hanrahan relieves Grilli

Hosmer flies out to center
Escobar flies out to right

Clint Robinson bats for Quintero

Robinson strikes out (swinging)

0 runs, 0 hits

Pirates win, 4-2

RockChalk
06-08-2012, 07:44 PM
If you dont want Hosmer in right, then sit Hosmer. You dont sit Butler.

I agree. But Billy's D cost us 1 run tonight, with nothing in return from his bat.

I'm guessing that if Cain was with the team, Hosmer would've been on the bench tonight.

RockChalk
06-08-2012, 07:45 PM
Defensive arguments aside, that was a pretty crappy effort this evening. On that, I think we can all agree

alnorth
06-08-2012, 07:45 PM
Upon further reflection, I think this "defensive deviation" cost us perhaps only 1 run. I don't see Betancourt as a weird interleague deviation because even though we'd rather play Gio, Ned isn't regularly starting him. So, run in the 1st still scores. Hosmer's error didn't matter, so the next 2 still score. The 4th run might not have scored during the hilarious rundown failure.

alnorth
06-08-2012, 07:46 PM
I agree. But Billy's D cost us 1 run tonight, with nothing in return from his bat.

I'm guessing that if Cain was with the team, Hosmer would've been on the bench tonight.

yep. If Cain is in center and hitting like we'd hope, there's really nowhere to put Hosmer/Butler, so whoever was having the better year would have started at 1st.

RockChalk
06-08-2012, 07:48 PM
Upon further reflection, I think this "defensive deviation" cost us perhaps only 1 run. I don't see Betancourt as a weird interleague deviation because even though we'd rather play Gio, Ned isn't regularly starting him. So, run in the 1st still scores. Hosmer's error didn't matter, so the next 2 still score. The 4th run might not have scored during the hilarious rundown failure.

My bias/hatred for Betancourt forces me to blame him for 1 run :harumph:

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 07:48 PM
The national league really sucks. I mean they won this game but the way they play the game sucks.

stonedstooge
06-08-2012, 07:50 PM
The national league really sucks. I mean they won this game but the way they play the game sucks.

It's really a different game isn't it?

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 07:51 PM
It's really a different game isn't it?

Yes. It's weird. And stupid.

SPchief
06-08-2012, 07:59 PM
Heh, of all people, Yost throws hochaver under the bus for the botched run down.

alnorth
06-08-2012, 08:02 PM
Heh, of all people, Yost throws hochaver under the bus for the botched run down.

wait, what?

Only thing I can think of is maybe he was responsible for yelling "home, home!" and he didn't do it? If thats not it, I'm confused.

SPchief
06-08-2012, 08:07 PM
wait, what?

Only thing I can think of is maybe he was responsible for yelling "home, home!" and he didn't do it? If thats not it, I'm confused.

Said he held on to the ball to long and as soon as he threw to Billy, the runner started home. Didn't want to throw Billy under it. Said that Escobar should have been the one in the rundown not Yuni. Didn't make much sense other than him not wanting to throw Billy under the bus for the not looking at 3rd. And obviously they didn't ask him to follow up on what he meant.

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 08:12 PM
This has nothing to do with the fact that we lost the game but am I the only one who feels like interleague play has run it's course? It's fun for inter-city and interstate rivalrys but other than that I find it useless. The NL gets an advantage in their home parks by making our stupid pitchers bat and when they come to AL parks they get to be even with us.

I'm not crying "not fair" it's just not the same game. Yet even with AL pitchers batting in NL parks the AL still by and large beats the NL.

My advice to the NL and MLB is to stop thinking "purist" means better. The DH adds offense to the game, speeds it up and rewards guys who are good at the hardest thing to do in professional sports... hitting a baseball. Last I checked the team who scores the most runs still wins so lets handicap ourselves with one less real bat in the line up because it's the way the game was played in the beginning.

Btw I hate the NL lol.

ChiefsandO'sfan
06-08-2012, 08:13 PM
This has nothing to do with the fact that we lost the game but am I the only one who feels like interleague play has run it's course? It's fun for inter-city and interstate rivalrys but other than that I find it useless. The NL gets an advantage in their home parks by making our stupid pitchers bat and when they come to AL parks they get to be even with us.

I'm not crying "not fair" it's just not the same game. Yet even with AL pitchers batting in NL parks the AL still by and large beats the NL.

My advice to the NL and MLB is to stop thinking "purist" means better. The DH adds offense to the game, speeds it up and rewards guys who are good at the hardest thing to do in professional sports... hitting a baseball. Last I checked the team who scores the most runs still wins so lets handicap ourselves with one less real bat in the line up because it's the way the game was played in the beginning.

Btw I hate the NL lol.

Wait till next year it will be every night.

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 08:15 PM
Wait till next year it will be every night.

Yeah... compounding stupid with more stupid.

SPchief
06-08-2012, 08:15 PM
Hey Beer me, next year there will be an interleague series every day.

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 08:16 PM
Hey Beer me, next year there will be an interleague series every day.

Yes I'm aware. See above post.

alnorth
06-08-2012, 08:31 PM
This has nothing to do with the fact that we lost the game but am I the only one who feels like interleague play has run it's course?

You aren't the only one, but you are in a very small, vocal minority. Interleague is still wildly popular, and I also like interleague because it gives us a break from seeing the same damned 14 teams (mostly the same damned 4 teams) over and over again. I hate NL baseball too, but I don't travel to NL ballparks. I went to see the D-Backs get crushed by the Royals at the K, and I am far more likely to choose an interleague game at home than a standard AL game if given a choice.

alnorth
06-08-2012, 08:33 PM
Wait till next year it will be every night.

Fine.

The NFL has interleague almost every week and the world doesn't end. The different rules are not a problem unless they force the Royals to play NL ball at home, thus ruining a otherwise-pleasant game you might go to see. There aren't many road interleague games, and if it bothers you that much, you are probably going to miss a few of the 162 games anyway, so don't watch those.

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 08:36 PM
You aren't the only one, but you are in a very small, vocal minority. Interleague is still wildly popular, and I also like interleague because it gives us a break from seeing the same damned 14 teams (mostly the same damned 4 teams) over and over again. I hate NL baseball too, but I don't travel to NL ballparks. I went to see the D-Backs get crushed by the Royals at the K, and I am far more likely to choose an interleague game at home than a standard AL game if given a choice.

Being in the minority... even as a white dude... is my lifes work it seems. It's my niche I guess.

tk13
06-08-2012, 08:47 PM
Hey beer me, next year there will be an interleague series going on every day.

Shogun
06-08-2012, 08:56 PM
hey beer me, did you know though that next year an interleague series is gonna happen every day?

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 09:07 PM
hey beer me, did you know though that next year an interleague series is gonna happen every day?

Hadn't heard that. Wow. Shogun dropping the knowledge.

Shogun
06-08-2012, 09:09 PM
i do tend to do that time to time. like heres a cool factoid

every day next year, at some point in the day, there will be an interleague game going on.

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 09:14 PM
i do tend to do that time to time. like heres a cool factoid

every day next year, at some point in the day, there will be an interleague game going on.

You're blowing my mind right now.

Reaper16
06-08-2012, 09:17 PM
Someone needs to tell beer me that there's gonna' be at least one interleague game every day next year. I mean, I just found this out myself and thought "Man, beer me really needs to know this."

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 09:25 PM
Someone needs to tell beer me that there's gonna' be at least one interleague game every day next year. I mean, I just found this out myself and thought "Man, beer me really needs to know this."

I call bullshit.

Chiefspants
06-08-2012, 09:34 PM
I heard that interleague was being removed from play next year, someone should tell beer me.

arrowheadnation
06-08-2012, 09:41 PM
On May 27th (10 games ago), Hosmer was batting .201. As of today, he's on a 9 game hitting streak and is batting .221. At least he's going in the right direction.

Messier
06-08-2012, 09:47 PM
This has nothing to do with the fact that we lost the game but am I the only one who feels like interleague play has run it's course? It's fun for inter-city and interstate rivalrys but other than that I find it useless. The NL gets an advantage in their home parks by making our stupid pitchers bat and when they come to AL parks they get to be even with us.

I'm not crying "not fair" it's just not the same game. Yet even with AL pitchers batting in NL parks the AL still by and large beats the NL.

My advice to the NL and MLB is to stop thinking "purist" means better. The DH adds offense to the game, speeds it up and rewards guys who are good at the hardest thing to do in professional sports... hitting a baseball. Last I checked the team who scores the most runs still wins so lets handicap ourselves with one less real bat in the line up because it's the way the game was played in the beginning.

Btw I hate the NL lol.

Hitting a baseball is not the hardest thing to do in professional sports. I know there is the famous quote about the hardest thing in sports is hitting a round ball with a round bat, but I don't agree.

Reaper16
06-08-2012, 09:49 PM
Hitting a baseball is not the hardest thing to do in professional sports. I know there is the famous quote about the hardest thing in sports is hitting a round ball with a round bat, but I don't agree.

What is harder?

chefsos
06-08-2012, 09:51 PM
Kevin Millwood is no-hitting the Dodgers in Seattle through six, and just came out of the game before throwing a pitch in the 7th.

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 09:52 PM
Hitting a baseball is not the hardest thing to do in professional sports. I know there is the famous quote about the hardest thing in sports is hitting a round ball with a round bat, but I don't agree.

OK you can disagree. I agree.

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 09:53 PM
I heard that interleague was being removed from play next year, someone should tell beer me.

I call bullshit.

SPchief
06-08-2012, 09:55 PM
Hitting a baseball is not the hardest thing to do in professional sports. I know there is the famous quote about the hardest thing in sports is hitting a round ball with a round bat, but I don't agree.

Care to explain what's harder?

Great Expectations
06-08-2012, 09:56 PM
Need to have a DH in the NL with all the interleague games.

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 09:57 PM
Care to explain what's harder?

He doesn't seem to yet.

Reaper16
06-08-2012, 09:59 PM
Answering the question of "What is the hardest thing to do in sports, if not hitting major league pitching?" is the hardest thing to do in sports.

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 10:12 PM
Answering the question of "What is the hardest thing to do in sports, if not hitting major league pitching?" is the hardest thing to do in sports.

Every professional sport is hard to be good at. That's why only the elite can do it. Football requires brute force, skill and toughness. Basketball and soccer require incredible stamina and skill. Golf... incredible skill and mental fortitude. Tennis... the same plus stamina.

Hitting a baseball well from a major league pitcher requires elite hand/eye coordination, excellent timing, patience, mental fortatude knowing that you're going to fail more often than you succeed, the ability to adjust in micro-seconds, the right swing, being able to go with pitches that change nearly every time, knowing what a pitcher is trying to do and the ability to bring all of those things together to hit the ball with authority.

Hitting a baseball is indeed the hardest thing to do in professional sports... imo.

Messier
06-08-2012, 10:14 PM
What is harder?

Well, I think throwing a football 60 plus yards accurately is harder, kicking a 50 yard field goal, returning a 120 mph serve in tennis, I think it's harder to pitch a 95 mph fastball for a strike is harder than hitting the ball.

I'm talking more the general ability to do these tasks and not the percentage of success. I think there are non professionals that could hit a baseball, I don't think vey many non pros are going to kick a 50 plus yard fg, or return a Nadal serve.

SPchief
06-08-2012, 10:14 PM
Every professional sport is hard to be good at. That's why only the elite can do it. Football requires brute force, skill and toughness. Basketball and soccer require incredible stamina and skill. Golf... incredible skill and mental fortitude. Tennis... the same plus stamina.

Hitting a baseball well from a major league pitcher requires elite hand/eye coordination, excellent timing, patience, mental fortatude knowing that you're going to fail more often than you succeed, the ability to adjust in micro-seconds, the right swing, being able to go with pitches that change nearly every time, knowing what a pitcher is trying to do and the ability to bring all of those things together to hit the ball with authority.

Hitting a baseball is indeed the hardest thing to do in professional sports... imo.
There's a reason that only the best players in the world only succeed 30% of the time.

SPchief
06-08-2012, 10:17 PM
I think there are non professionals that could hit a baseball, I don't think vey many non pros are going to kick a 50 plus yard fg, or return a Nadal serve.

But you believe anyone could hit a (hell I'll go with Sean O'Sullivan) fastball?

EDIT:

While SOS is telling you he's throwing fastball?

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 10:18 PM
Well, I think throwing a football 60 plus yards accurately is harder, kicking a 50 yard field goal, returning a 120 mph serve in tennis, I think it's harder to pitch a 95 mph fastball for a strike is harder than hitting the ball.

I'm talking more the general ability to do these tasks and not the percentage of success. I think there are non professionals that could hit a baseball, I don't think vey many non pros are going to kick a 50 plus yard fg, or return a Nadal serve.

Those things are all difficult but none of them require the mutliple skills that being a good major league hitter does. I can throw a ball 60 yards with simple arm strength.

Messier
06-08-2012, 10:20 PM
There's a reason that only the best players in the world only succeed 30% of the time.

Like I said. I'm not talking % of success, but more the actual ability to complete the task. I've seen Kevin Cosner hit a homerun off a major league pitcher, but I don't think there is a single actor, no matter how much they love football that's going to kick a 55 yard FG, or return a 130 mph serve from Nadal or Federer.

Messier
06-08-2012, 10:21 PM
Those things are all difficult but none of them require the mutliple skills that being a good major league hitter does. I can throw a ball 60 yards with simple arm strength.

Not accurately.

SPchief
06-08-2012, 10:22 PM
. I can throw a ball 60 yards with simple arm strength.

Not to help Messier's cause, but I doubt it.

Reaper16
06-08-2012, 10:22 PM
High-level tennis is the only reasonable alternative here. I can accept that argument.

Messier
06-08-2012, 10:23 PM
But you believe anyone could hit a (hell I'll go with Sean O'Sullivan) fastball?

EDIT:

While SOS is telling you he's throwing fastball?

I think there are more people that can hit that fastball than throw a 60-70 yard pass.

SPchief
06-08-2012, 10:26 PM
Like I said. I'm not talking % of success, but more the actual ability to complete the task. I've seen Kevin Cosner hit a homerun off a major league pitcher, but I don't think there is a single actor, no matter how much they love football that's going to kick a 55 yard FG, or return a 130 mph serve from Nadal or Federer.

Was the pitcher the number 1/2 player in the world? Was he throwing in a real game situation?(not a celebrity game?)

Messier
06-08-2012, 10:27 PM
Some NFl teams (Chiefs included) don't even have a QB that can throw the ball 70 yards, but every MLB team has players that can hit any pitchers pitch.

SPchief
06-08-2012, 10:28 PM
Just realized that Messier is a DC slum, keep spinning

SPchief
06-08-2012, 10:28 PM
I'm out

Messier
06-08-2012, 10:29 PM
Just realized that Messier is a DC slum, keep spinning

What?

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 10:29 PM
Not accurately.

OK I'll give you that. Arm strength and accuracy are two separate skills. Still nowhere close to hitting a baseball successfully imo.

Don't get me wrong... I'm not putting down any of the things you mentioned. They all take elite skill. I have my opinion and you have yours.

Messier
06-08-2012, 10:30 PM
I'm out

I accept your apology.

Messier
06-08-2012, 10:32 PM
OK I'll give you that. Arm strength and accuracy are two separate skills. Still nowhere close to hitting a baseball successfully imo.

Don't get me wrong... I'm not putting down any of the things you mentioned. They all take elite skill. I have my opinion and you have yours.

I know. I'm not trying to tell you you're wrong, it's all opinion here. That saying, about hardest thing to do in sport, has just always been a pet peeve of mine.

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 10:32 PM
I think there are more people that can hit that fastball than throw a 60-70 yard pass.

Yeah I can throw a fast ball. About 75 mph. Can more people hit a 98 mph fastball? How about a slider, split finger fastball, curveball, change up... hit them all to be an elite big league hitter.

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 10:34 PM
Some NFl teams (Chiefs included) don't even have a QB that can throw the ball 70 yards, but every MLB team has players that can hit any pitchers pitch.

Not true.

Messier
06-08-2012, 10:34 PM
Yeah I can throw a fast ball. About 75 mph. Can more people hit a 98 mph fastball? How about a slider, split finger fastball, curveball, change up... hit them all to be an elite big league hitter.

Every team has some that can.

Messier
06-08-2012, 10:35 PM
Not true.

Really? There are teams without a hit?

Reaper16
06-08-2012, 10:36 PM
Messier doesn't even understand the argument. No wonder its a pet peeve of his.

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 10:40 PM
A hit is a hit. I'm talking about excelling at your craft. I might get a hit off a major league pitcher once because locating the ball where he wanted is also very difficult. Justin Verlander shuts teams down because he's most often better than the hitter. That doesn't mean a hitter doesn't get to him now and then.

Messier
06-08-2012, 10:40 PM
I think we're arguing two different things. Hitting a ball has the lowest % of success, but I'm just talking about number of people on the planet that can even complete the task. If we're talking success rate, you're right.

chefsos
06-08-2012, 10:41 PM
Kevin Millwood is no-hitting the Dodgers in Seattle through six, and just came out of the game before throwing a pitch in the 7th.LA is still hitless through 8...

Messier
06-08-2012, 10:43 PM
Messier doesn't even understand the argument. No wonder its a pet peeve of his.

I just said, and actually said in one of my first posts, I'm talking about the ability to complete the task, not really % of success. There are more people that can hit a baseball than can throw a 70 yard pass right were it needs to go.

DeezNutz
06-08-2012, 10:44 PM
Hitting a baseball is not the hardest thing to do in professional sports. I know there is the famous quote about the hardest thing in sports is hitting a round ball with a round bat, but I don't agree.

It's cool. People have to be wrong, Messedson.

Now, regarding tonight's Royals game. I'm going to flip my shit if I continue to see more failed run-downs. In college, we'd get our shit handed to us in practice if we couldn't end a run-down in a single throw. When's the last time you've seen the Royals do this?

For a franchise that has talked more about "fundamentals" (read: we know we suck) than any other team, they sure as fuck can't execute (read: we still fucking suck).

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 10:46 PM
I think we're arguing two different things. Hitting a ball has the lowest % of success, but I'm just talking about number of people on the planet that can even complete the task. If we're talking success rate, you're right.

Fair enough. We both make valid points and are both entitled to our opinions. See... a dissagreement on CP can be civil.

:thumb:

DeezNutz
06-08-2012, 10:46 PM
Fair enough. We both make valid points and are both entitled to our opinions. See... a dissagreement on CP can be civil.

:thumb:

Fuck you.

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 10:48 PM
**** you.

Thanks Deez. I didn't feel like argueing anymore.

Shogun
06-08-2012, 10:55 PM
hey beerme did you hear that next year theres an interleague game every year/

chefsos
06-08-2012, 10:58 PM
Okay, nobody cares, but Seattle just no-hit the Dodgers with six pitchers.

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 11:01 PM
hey beerme did you hear that next year theres an interleague game every year/

Wait............. what?

Dr. Facebook Fever
06-08-2012, 11:02 PM
Okay, nobody cares, but Seattle just no-hit the Dodgers with six pitchers.

I care. Who got the win?

chefsos
06-08-2012, 11:05 PM
I care. Who got the win?The team with >0 hits.

DeezNutz
06-08-2012, 11:06 PM
I care. Who got the win?

The Bears.