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Count Zarth
06-13-2012, 05:20 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/12/why-are-there-gay-men_n_1590501.html

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Why are there gay men? Scientists say 'gay genes' make women more attractive to men, boosting the number of children they have.



This longstanding question is finally being answered by new and ongoing research. For several years, studies led by Andrea Camperio Ciani at the University of Padova in Italy and others have found that mothers and maternal aunts of gay men tend to have significantly more offspring than the maternal relatives of straight men. The results show strong support for the "balancing selection hypothesis," which is fast becoming the accepted theory of the genetic basis of male homosexuality.

The theory holds that the same genetic factors that induce gayness in males also promote fecundity (high reproductive success) in those males' female maternal relatives. Through this trade-off, the maternal relatives' "gay man genes," though they aren't expressed as such, tend to get passed to future generations in spite of their tendency to make their male inheritors gay.

While no one knows which genes, exactly, these might be, at least one of them appears to be located on the X chromosome, according to genetic modeling by Camperio Ciani and his colleagues. Males inherit only one X chromosome the one from their mother and if it includes the gene that promotes gayness in males and fecundity in females, he is likely to be gay while his mom and her female relatives are likely to have lots of kids. If a daughter inherits that same X-linked gene, she herself may not be gay, but she can pass it on to her sons. [Why Are There Gay Women?]

But how might the "gay man gene" make females more reproductively successful? A new study by Camperio Ciani and his team addresses the question for the first time. Previously, the Italian researchers suggested that the "gay man gene" might simply increase androphilia, or attraction to men, thereby making the males who possess the gene homosexual and the females who possess it more promiscuous. But after investigating the characteristics of 161 female maternal relatives of homosexual and heterosexual men, the researchers have adjusted their hypothesis. Rather than making women more attracted to men, the "gay man gene" appears to make these women more attractive to men.

"High fecundity, that means having more babies, is not about pleasure in sex, nor is it about promiscuity. The androphilic pattern that we found is about females who increase their reproductive value to attract the best males," Camperio Ciani told Life's Little Mysteries.

Turns out, the moms and aunts of gay men have an advantage over the moms and aunts of straight men for several reasons: They are more fertile, displaying fewer gynecological disorders or complications during pregnancy; they are more extroverted, as well as funnier, happier and more relaxed; and they have fewer family problems and social anxieties. "In other words, compared to the others, [they are] perfect for a male," Camperio Ciani said. Attracting and choosing from the best males enables these women to produce more offspring, he noted.

The new study will appear in an upcoming issue of the Journal of Sexual Medicine.

Of course, no single factor can account for the varied array of sexual orientations that exist, in men as well as in women. "It is quite possible that there are several influences on forming a homosexual orientation," said Gerulf Rieger, a sexual orientation researcher at Cornell University. He noted that environmental factors including the level of exposure to certain hormones in the womb also play a role in molding male sexuality. But as for why genetic factors would exist that make men gay, it appears that these genes make women, as well as gay men, alluring to other men.

beach tribe
06-13-2012, 05:42 PM
I have zero doubt that you found this while questioning your own sexuality.

bevischief
06-13-2012, 05:46 PM
I have zero doubt that you found this while questioning your own sexuality.

ROFL

Count Zarth
06-13-2012, 05:47 PM
I blame the Mac thread.

GoHuge
06-13-2012, 05:48 PM
So it appears you went on ancestry.com. Find any other tidbits about yourself other than why your gay and your mom and aunt like to fuck a lot?

Simply Red
06-13-2012, 05:48 PM
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Gonzo
06-13-2012, 05:55 PM
Once you let the gay in there's no going back.
Fucking appletinis and buttsex for everyone, I'm telling you...

whoman69
06-13-2012, 05:56 PM
So gay men are the equivelent to alcoholics in making the opposite sex more attracted?

So you have the whatsis going how? This makes zero sense.

big nasty kcnut
06-13-2012, 05:59 PM
I'm not gay but my girlfriend is bi

listopencil
06-13-2012, 06:03 PM
I have zero doubt that you found this while questioning your own sexuality.

ROFL

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to beach tribe again.

Count Zarth
06-13-2012, 06:05 PM
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roar, tiger

listopencil
06-13-2012, 06:05 PM
So...the "gay gene" makes people (of both sexes) more attractive to men? So instead of making guys gay, it makes guys more attractive to other men, meaning they are more likely to engage in homosexual relationships? Am I reading that right?

alnorth
06-13-2012, 06:12 PM
So...the "gay gene" makes people (of both sexes) more attractive to men? So instead of making guys gay, it makes guys more attractive to other men, meaning they are more likely to engage in homosexual relationships? Am I reading that right?

I read it differently, and it sort of makes sense.

Lets say there's a "gay gene" that makes men far more likely to be gay than if they didn't have it. You'd think natural selection would select against it, unless it has an advantage to counter that disadvantage.

The article is saying that if a woman inherits the "gay gene", it doesn't make her gay, instead it makes her more sociable, outgoing, funny, etc which in turn makes her more attractive to men, so she might have fewer problems finding a good man than a woman without the gene. Kind of like your stereotypical flaming gay man who is a little too energetic, that behavior may work better in a woman.

The article suggests that the reproductive advantage this gene has when it is passed down to a woman may outweigh the occasional gay dead-end it runs into when passed down to a man.

AustinChief
06-13-2012, 06:13 PM
HA.. and your sister is hot and a bit of a slut? All makes sense now...

listopencil
06-13-2012, 06:13 PM
I read it differently, and it sort of makes sense.

Lets say there's a "gay gene" that makes men far more likely to be gay than if they didn't have it. You'd think natural selection would select against it, unless it has an advantage to counter that disadvantage.

The article is saying that if a woman inherits the "gay gene", it doesn't make her gay, instead it makes her more sociable, outgoing, funny, etc which in turn makes her more attractive to men, so she might have fewer problems finding a good man than a woman without the gene. Kind of like your stereotypical flaming gay man who is a little too energetic, that behavior may work better in a woman.

The article suggests that the reproductive advantage this gene has when it is passed down to a woman may outweigh the occasional gay dead-end it runs into when passed down to a man.


OK, yeah, I could see that.

listopencil
06-13-2012, 06:15 PM
HA.. and your sister is hot and a bit of a slut? All makes sense now...


Hah.

Count Zarth
06-13-2012, 06:15 PM
HA.. and your sister is hot and a bit of a slut? All makes sense now...

She's very attractive, but not slutty.

Count Zarth
06-13-2012, 06:16 PM
My aunt only had one child. I'm not gay, bro.

AustinChief
06-13-2012, 06:17 PM
My aunt only had one child. I'm not gay, bro.

Then what's your excuse for chugging so much cock?

Captain Obvious
06-13-2012, 06:18 PM
I'm not gay but my girlfriend is bi

Polar?

Count Zarth
06-13-2012, 06:19 PM
Then what's your excuse for chugging so much cock?

I'm not gay bro.

Okie_Apparition
06-13-2012, 06:19 PM
Italy, Romans, Olympics...
I think we see where this was going

Lonewolf Ed
06-13-2012, 06:41 PM
I'm not gay bro.

We believe you, really! Some of us just like to kid.

Gonzo
06-14-2012, 04:39 AM
Then what's your excuse for chugging so much cock?

LMAO
Premium content.

ChiefsNow
06-14-2012, 04:57 AM
But why are there gay threads?

King_Chief_Fan
06-14-2012, 06:23 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/12/why-are-there-gay-men_n_1590501.html

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/643046/thumbs/s-WHY-ARE-THERE-GAY-MEN-large.jpg

Why are there gay men? Scientists say 'gay genes' make women more attractive to men, boosting the number of children they have.

BS...this is not the reason why you are gay...

J Diddy
06-14-2012, 07:46 AM
But why are there gay threads?

It starts with a gay gene being passed down through the mother board....

Gonzo
06-15-2012, 01:17 AM
Studies have shown that most gay men have a swollen medulla oblengata. I figure that comes from the constant pounding.

tredadda
06-15-2012, 01:21 AM
I'm not gay bro.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRquaedWyoHZU4pBIg8GtwgxYI6F3hud-F3KWqql2lRG6FrQ3pIYg

BillSelfsTrophycase
06-15-2012, 01:24 AM
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ChiefsNow
06-15-2012, 07:33 AM
ROFLIt starts with a gay gene being passed down through the mother board....

JD10367
06-15-2012, 07:34 AM
Yes, because there's nothing more attractive to a guy than a woman who squirts out a lot of kids. And the first thing I always ask potential mates in the questionnaire I hand out is, "Are you fertile, and how many gynocological disorders have you had"?