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Tribal Warfare
06-13-2012, 08:37 PM
Chiefs’ Tamba Hali is getting respect from his peers (http://www.kansascity.com/2012/06/12/3655336/chiefs-hali-getting-respect-from.html)
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

His signature dreadlocks are gone, leaving behind only closely cropped hair. Tamba Hali blamed the change on advancing age and a receding hairline.

“I’m getting older,” Hali said after the Chiefs’ minicamp practice Tuesday, “and sometimes genetics play a key role.”

Though he’s heading into his seventh season with the Chiefs, Hali, 28, should still be in the prime of his career for some time. But his altered hairstyle serves as a reminder that his reign as one of the NFL’s top pass rushers won’t last forever, and if the Chiefs are to make better use of his abilities, they’d better not wait long.

Hali played in the first Pro Bowl of his career last season. He had 12 sacks on the year.

“The Pro Bowl was fun,” he said. “I got a chance to see some of the better players in this league and go against them and compare yourself and actually talk to guys like Dwight Freeney, who is an elite pass rusher in this league and one of my favorite guys. Just talking to him and seeing where his mind is and how he prepares for games and vice versa … Being around those guys was a great experience.”

Hali’s performance last season came as no surprise to the Chiefs or their fans. In 2010, he led the AFC in sacks with 141/2 and after being named the franchise player was rewarded with a lucrative, long-term contract.

Hali has always been a tireless worker, and that relentless style endeared him not only to his teammates, but to fans who regularly watched Chiefs games.

“Football is his life,” former Chiefs running back Thomas Jones said. “You can tell. I get to the stadium at 10 and the game starts at 12. As soon as I walk into the locker room, he’s coming in from the field and already drenched in sweat with his football uniform on already. And I’m just getting to the stadium. That’s a testament to how serious he is about football and about his position.”

But to his peers around the league, nothing boosts stature like a visit to the Pro Bowl. Hali was 64th on the NFL Network’s list of top players last year. But he is 34th this year, even after a decline in sacks.

“Maybe (he’s) not a household name that some of these other defensive ends and outside linebackers are, but he’s all the player,” San Francisco quarterback Alex Smith told the NFL Network. “Sometimes you see that all they care about is the sacks. They don’t play the run nearly as tough because all they’re worried about is getting their numbers. He’s not that guy. He’s a guy that takes pride in playing tough every single snap and just does it all.”

To Hali, there’s no greater praise.

“I think guys see how I play the game and that I have a passion for it,” Hali said. “I hope guys have a respect for that, but I don’t pay much attention to it that much.

“Guys are looking at me and ranking me somewhere and saying, ‘This guy does his job.’ That means a lot. Those are colleagues, and if that’s how they feel about you, that means a lot.”

Hali’s two best NFL seasons have been with Romeo Crennel as the Chiefs’ defensive coordinator. He expects to continue to flourish with Crennel as his head coach.

“A veteran coach who knows what he’s doing,” Hali said. “He expects a lot from us.

“With him as the coach, everything is structured. We’re not guessing where we’ve got to be. We’re not coming in with a different schedule. The schedule is not changing. We know where we’ve got to be every day. That way, it works for us as players. We know what it takes.”

Hali isn’t the senior member of the Chiefs defense, but among the core group only linebacker Derrick Johnson, at 29, is older. It could be a sign of his changing role in Kansas City that the Chiefs placed the locker of their first-round draft pick, nose tackle Dontari Poe, immediately next to Hali’s.

Perhaps it’s a coincidence, or perhaps the Chiefs want Poe getting a close look at how Hali prepares.

“That’s on all of us,” Hali said. “But he’s next to me, so I guess he’s going to be hearing from me.”

Easy 6
06-14-2012, 12:18 AM
I've lost count of how many statements different players have made recently, that lead me to believe Haley wasnt exactly respected as a HC & that conversely, they will now run through a wall for RC.

Its going to take a ton of evidence to convince me that Romeo is going to be this joke of a HC that too many are predicting... everything i'm hearing says that these guys will breathe fire for their head coach.

Count Alex's Wins
06-14-2012, 12:19 AM
I'm so glad Matt Cassel and Scott Pioli are here, to rob Hali a chance of winning anything.

Count Alex's Wins
06-14-2012, 12:19 AM
Haley wasnt exactly respected as a HC & that conversely, they will now run through a wall for RC.
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Complete and utter bullshit. See the Monday Night game, or the winning streak, for proof that they played hard for Haley.

cdcox
06-14-2012, 12:24 AM
I've lost count of how many statements different players have made recently, that lead me to believe Haley wasnt exactly respected as a HC & that conversely, they will now run through a wall for RC.

Its going to take a ton of evidence to convince me that Romeo is going to be this joke of a HC that too many are predicting... everything i'm hearing says that these guys will breathe fire for their head coach.

Next time Matt Cassel hits the goal post with a pass, that bitch is going down!

Cornstock
06-14-2012, 12:34 AM
Complete and utter bullshit. See the Monday Night game, or the winning streak, for proof that they played hard for Haley.

The question is, were they playing hard for Haley, or were they playing hard because they're professionals and that's what they're paid for?

Easy 6
06-14-2012, 12:36 AM
Yes, they played hard under Haley... he brought that Jr. Parcells-ian brand of my way or the highway hardassery that the team Desperately needed to start anew, to totally wash away the old, dead culture & i'm sure that every player respected him in their own way.

But, the tone of dozens of things i've read say that this team sounds more unified than ever under RAC, they're not only buying what he's selling out of fear... they're buying in because they respect his experience, resume & steadier regimen he surely provides over a less experienced Haley.

This team will play their motherloving asses off for this guy every single week, you just wait.

Count Alex's Wins
06-14-2012, 12:39 AM
There was no different in effort and intensity between Haley and RAC. Don't be idiots. RAC is not some god that is going to get 125% from his players instead of 100%.

This "Romeo Crennel is actually a great head coach" myth is the worst thing about this offseason. Dude has a lot to prove after his embarrassing Cleveland days.

Cornstock
06-14-2012, 12:49 AM
There was no different in effort and intensity between Haley and RAC. Don't be idiots. RAC is not some god that is going to get 125% from his players instead of 100%.

This "Romeo Crennel is actually a great head coach" myth is the worst thing about this offseason. Dude has a lot to prove after his embarrassing Cleveland days.

The only thing that keeps my agreement from being wholehearted is that fluke (yes it was a fluke...an awesome fluke) win against Greenbay. I have no explanation for that other than an inspired performance for RAC. Or maybe its just one of those sports things that defies explanations, like the Phyllis Phumble.

Cornstock
06-14-2012, 12:51 AM
There was no different in effort and intensity between Haley and RAC. Don't be idiots. RAC is not some god that is going to get 125% from his players instead of 100%.

This "Romeo Crennel is actually a great head coach" myth is the worst thing about this offseason. Dude has a lot to prove after his embarrassing Cleveland days.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Crennel is a great coach or crowning him or anything. He's got a lot to prove yet. But there seems to be something about him that helps him draw some inspired performances out of his guys.

Count Alex's Wins
06-14-2012, 12:58 AM
The only thing that keeps my agreement from being wholehearted is that fluke (yes it was a fluke...an awesome fluke) win against Greenbay. I have no explanation for that other than an inspired performance for RAC. Or maybe its just one of those sports things that defies explanations, like the Phyllis Phumble.

Romeo's coaching was so awesome that day, it made the Packers drop 9 passes.

Cornstock
06-14-2012, 01:02 AM
Romeo's coaching was so awesome that day, it made the Packers drop 9 passes.

I think it was the perfect storm of circumstances. Packers played about as poorly as they are capable of while the Chiefs played out of their minds.

BryanBusby
06-14-2012, 01:06 AM
Complete and utter bullshit. See the Monday Night game, or the winning streak, for proof that they played hard for Haley.

See the first two weeks for proof they weren't playing at a consistent level.

KC Tattoo
06-14-2012, 01:07 AM
For me to like Crennel is just going depend on how long he sticks with Mark Castle. I think Crennel makes a good interem coach or transitional coach untill we (if ever) draft QBotf. Then I would like a new HC that can be tied to the hip for the kid & hope to create a long term success dynasty. That just seems too much to ask.

Count Alex's Wins
06-14-2012, 01:10 AM
See the first two weeks for proof they weren't playing at a consistent level.

Wrong. There was no lack of effort in those games.

Hog Farmer
06-14-2012, 01:19 AM
Black players like black coaches. Why? Because they're racist.

Reaper16
06-14-2012, 01:27 AM
Teicher watches NFL Network, finds a way to turn that into a story. God that man is worthless at his job.

Two-Twenty
06-14-2012, 02:05 AM
Wrong. There was no lack of effort in those games.

Of course there was effort, but there was no intensity. And they quit in the second half of both of those games. Granted they were down big;...

Von Dumbass
06-14-2012, 02:36 AM
Black players like black coaches. Why? Because they're racist.

Asked which active N.F.L. coaches they would most like to play for, the players picked Tony Dungy (Indianapolis Colts) followed by Lovie Smith (Chicago Bears) and Bill Belichick (New England Patriots). Herman Edwards (Kansas City Chiefs) was fourth and Mike Tomlin (Pittsburgh Steelers) fifth.

Asked to name the coaches they would least like to play for, the players named Tom Coughlin (Giants), Eric Mangini (Jets), Jon Gruden (Tampa Bay Buccaneers), Bobby Petrino (formerly of the Atlanta Falcons) and Belichick.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/26/sports/football/26rhoden.html?_r=1&em

-King-
06-14-2012, 06:24 AM
Romeo's coaching was so awesome that day, it made the Packers drop 9 passes.

They didn't drop 9 passes.
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mikey23545
06-14-2012, 06:54 AM
I'm so glad Matt Cassel and Scott Pioli are here, to rob Hali a chance of winning anything.

There was no different in effort and intensity between Haley and RAC. Don't be idiots. RAC is not some god that is going to get 125% from his players instead of 100%.

This "Romeo Crennel is actually a great head coach" myth is the worst thing about this offseason. Dude has a lot to prove after his embarrassing Cleveland days.

Romeo's coaching was so awesome that day, it made the Packers drop 9 passes.


The article is about Hali, not Crennel.

Still, Hali stands as a testament to just how fucking little bulletin board geniuses (especially drafturbators) know about football...

Okie_Apparition
06-14-2012, 07:40 AM
The anit-Liberia movement at Fox Sports is keeping him from being a star
If they put him on the cover of a magazine they would shade in a Hitler mustache

Chief Roundup
06-14-2012, 07:55 AM
Dude has a lot to prove after his embarrassing Cleveland days.

embarrasing??? Belichick sucked in Cleveland too. Their records there are very similar. They both only had one winning season there and those were the same records.

Who doesn't suck in Cleveland?

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-14-2012, 08:20 AM
They didn't drop 9 passes.
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When I first saw someone use that excuse it was 6 or 7. Now, it's grown to 9 ROFL Gotta love CP.

mlyonsd
06-14-2012, 08:30 AM
(http://www.kansascity.com/2012/06/12/3655336/chiefs-hali-getting-respect-from.html)
“That’s on all of us,” Hali said. “But he’s next to me, so I guess he’s going to be hearing from me.”I like that part.

DBOSHO
06-14-2012, 09:08 AM
I bet tamba hali looks weird without hair

Count Alex's Wins
06-14-2012, 09:15 AM
They didn't drop 9 passes.
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Maybe not 9 legit drops, but they definitely failed to catch 9 passes they usually haul in.

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-14-2012, 09:29 AM
Nope, it was 12.

Rausch
06-14-2012, 09:44 AM
Black players like black coaches. Why? Because they're racist.

Oooooooooor because they're both black.

I was really pulling for Gun because he was German. Herm (fuck him looking black, he was GERMAN to me) for the same reasons.

Neither one worked out.

I'm sure there's gingers out there pulling for Ryan.

http://www.reddirtchronicles.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/it-is-what-it-is.jpg

CrazyHorse
06-14-2012, 09:51 AM
Romeo's coaching was so awesome that day, it made the Packers drop 9 passes.

You just kinda make it up as you go, dont you? lol.

Count Alex's Wins
06-14-2012, 09:52 AM
You just kinda make it up as you go, dont you? lol.

No, CrazyHorse. I watched the game. I know what happened.

Rausch
06-14-2012, 09:52 AM
You just kinda make it up as you go, dont you? lol.

Pretty much.

Arguing with him's like nailing a marlin.

It's more about stamina than strength...

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-14-2012, 10:19 AM
The Packers have now been credited with 15 drops.

DBOSHO
06-14-2012, 11:15 AM
Chiefs missing 4 top players>packers dropped passes.

Easy 6
06-14-2012, 11:20 AM
Chiefs missing 4 top players>packers dropped passes.

Chicken Dinner

SNR
06-14-2012, 11:27 AM
Oooooooooor because they're both black.

I was really pulling for Gun because he was German. Herm (**** him looking black, he was GERMAN to me) for the same reasons.

Neither one worked out.

I'm sure there's gingers out there pulling for Ryan.

http://www.reddirtchronicles.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/it-is-what-it-is.jpg

Schottenheimer... such a lovely fine Irish name...

Hydrae
06-14-2012, 11:31 AM
“With him as the coach, everything is structured. We’re not guessing where we’ve got to be. We’re not coming in with a different schedule. The schedule is not changing. We know where we’ve got to be every day. That way, it works for us as players. We know what it takes.”

I do not read that as a praise for Romeo as much as an indictment of Haley. To me this really speaks to Haley's inexperience more than anything else.

Count Alex's Wins
06-14-2012, 11:47 AM
The Packers have now been credited with 15 drops.

Listen, dawg, if I had time I could literally show you nine passes the Packers failed to catch that everyone would agree they normally haul in. That isn't an elite passing offense for no reason.

Going back to the original point, though, this crusade to paint Romeo as some kind of coaching god is disturbing. Relatively speaking it's worse than any kind of blowjob Haley ever got...and that guy was Lombardi around here after 2010.

mikey23545
06-14-2012, 12:25 PM
The Packers have now been credited with 15 drops.

I have the game recorded, and I just watched it again and the Packers actually dropped 35 passes which is weird, because that's the number of passes attempted by Rodgers.

milkman
06-14-2012, 10:24 PM
The fact is, the Pack did drop a number of passes in that game.

beach tribe
06-14-2012, 11:46 PM
Listen, dawg, if I had time I could literally show you nine passes the Packers failed to catch that everyone would agree they normally haul in. That isn't an elite passing offense for no reason.

Going back to the original point, though, this crusade to paint Romeo as some kind of coaching god is disturbing. Relatively speaking it's worse than any kind of blowjob Haley ever got...and that guy was Lombardi around here after 2010.

I'll bet you can't.
I'm watching it right now, and those passes you're talking about are errant passes because Rodgers was pressured, but keep up the BS.

beach tribe
06-14-2012, 11:51 PM
I counted 5, and that includes one that Finley had to damn near lay out for.

Demonpenz
06-15-2012, 12:01 AM
When are the Tamba vs. DT arguements going to come down.

Count Alex's Wins
06-15-2012, 12:03 AM
I counted 5, and that includes one that Finley had to damn near lay out for.

You need to redefine what a drop is with the Packers receivers.

There were probably 6 actual drops, and 3 more passes that they didn't catch, which would have been difficult catches, but catches they normally make.

Detoxing
06-15-2012, 12:41 AM
The fact is, the Pack did drop a number of passes in that game.

A number of very difficult catches to make. lets not act like they were wide open, un-contested drops.