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Taco John
06-14-2012, 12:18 AM
*sigh*

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This guy is frankly more unlikable than John Kerry. He's going to lose.

Taco John
06-14-2012, 12:19 AM
Problem is, I believe in some of the things he gives lip service to, but he's such a fake individual that it's hard to believe he believes a word he says.

Hog Farmer
06-14-2012, 12:24 AM
*sigh*

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This guy is frankly more unlikable than John Kerry. He's going to lose.


That's funny. So are you !

cosmo20002
06-14-2012, 12:31 AM
Also he quite bizarrely says the word "sport" inappropriately. I'm not sure of the context, but the other day he was talking to some group and he says, "The other day I met a guy who was 7 feet tall. I assumed he was in sport, but he wasn't in sport."

Who the fuk talks like that?

Direckshun
06-14-2012, 12:31 AM
His campaign has been a stunning display of unreality. It's been hard to stomach.

The other day I remember him leveling mutually exclusive arguments against Obama. Which isn't terribly new, considering conservatives love to simultaneously call him a socialist and a Wall Street coddler.

But you do expect more. It's not coming though.

There's a reason it took him a few months to beat Newt freaking Gingrich and Rick freaking Santorum.

Taco John
06-14-2012, 01:27 AM
He's such a goober.

Iz Zat Chew
06-14-2012, 07:27 AM
I see lots of Obama supporters. Their comments only deepen their convictions to re-elect Jimmy Carter II.

LOCOChief
06-14-2012, 08:00 AM
[QUOTE=Taco John;8678617This guy is frankly more unlikable than John Kerry. [/QUOTE]


Ahh yeah, no he isn't, nobody is.

mlyonsd
06-14-2012, 08:02 AM
He's such a goober.Err, Ron Paul put the goo in goober.

Maybe the word you're looking for is slimy, or oily.

Donger
06-14-2012, 08:06 AM
That's it? I was expecting a little more honestly. Something along the lines of "The private sector is doing fine" or something.

Saul Good
06-14-2012, 08:06 AM
Rand endorsed him. That's good enough for me.

qabbaan
06-14-2012, 08:07 AM
Err, Ron Paul put the goo in goober.

Maybe the word you're looking for is slimy, or oily.

Is this a Democrat forum? We are arguing about a candidate who isn't "cool"?

He's certainly not as hip as that ancient guy Paul, but he is at least cool enough to carry his son's endorsement.

patteeu
06-14-2012, 09:06 AM
I'm completely underwhelmed by that video. I think Romney is quite likable. He's good natured and he has optimism about our future where Barack Obama wants to preside over our decline and fiddle around within our "new normal". Romney has this thing in the bag.

Easy 6
06-14-2012, 10:19 AM
Also he quite bizarrely says the word "sport" inappropriately. I'm not sure of the context, but the other day he was talking to some group and he says, "The other day I met a guy who was 7 feet tall. I assumed he was in sport, but he wasn't in sport."

Who the fuk talks like that?

LMAO

'yes, i looked up at him and just knew he'd be great at the All American game of baskethoops'.

cosmo20002
06-14-2012, 10:20 AM
I think Romney is quite likable. He's good natured and he has optimism about our future where Barack Obama wants to preside over our decline and fiddle around within our "new normal".

They all are optimistic about the future if they are elected. Otherwise, they warn us to prepare for 4 years of an apocalyptic hellscape where eating our neighbor's flesh will be only form of sustenance and basically the living will envy the dead.

I'm not saying it precludes someone from being a good president, but Romney is an awkward tool around regular folk. His pronouncements that he "lives for laughter" and "I love cars!" and "I love lakes!" and "I love sport!" (not sports, but 'sport') comes off as phony as can be. And he loves hunting and has lots of guns. Well, they are someone else's guns, but he has shot 'varmints" a time or two. He loves NASCAR--well, he's friends with some of the owners, anyway.

His joking with a group of unemployed people that "I'm also unemployed!" shows that he truly is out of touch with normal people. All high-level politicians become out of touch to some degree, but I don't think this rich kid turned mega-rich adult ever dealt with regular folks, or at least he doesn't act like he has.

SNR
06-14-2012, 10:22 AM
He's better than Jon Huntsman. Huntsman so many terrible topical jokes on the campaign trail. I could totally see him traveling to another country and fucking up a joke.

"Hey there Estonia! I just got off the plane and boy are my arms tired! *nervous smile*"

patteeu
06-14-2012, 10:49 AM
They all are optimistic about the future if they are elected. Otherwise, they warn us to prepare for 4 years of an apocalyptic hellscape where eating our neighbor's flesh will be only form of sustenance and basically the living will envy the dead.

I'm not saying it precludes someone from being a good president, but Romney is an awkward tool around regular folk. His pronouncements that he "lives for laughter" and "I love cars!" and "I love lakes!" and "I love sport!" (not sports, but 'sport') comes off as phony as can be. And he loves hunting and has lots of guns. Well, they are someone else's guns, but he has shot 'varmints" a time or two. He loves NASCAR--well, he's friends with some of the owners, anyway.

His joking with a group of unemployed people that "I'm also unemployed!" shows that he truly is out of touch with normal people. All high-level politicians become out of touch to some degree, but I don't think this rich kid turned mega-rich adult ever dealt with regular folks, or at least he doesn't act like he has.

The people he was with when he joked about being unemployed seemed to find it funny. Your offense on their behalf seems strained to me.

patteeu
06-14-2012, 10:51 AM
Both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama are self-made men. Romney donated his entire inheritance to charity and made his millions on his own. Obama wrote a fictional autobiography.

cosmo20002
06-14-2012, 10:57 AM
Both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama are self-made men. Romney donated his entire inheritance to charity and made his millions on his own. Obama wrote a fictional autobiography.

What does that have to do with Romney being an awkward tool?

cosmo20002
06-14-2012, 11:04 AM
The people he was with when he joked about being unemployed seemed to find it funny. Your offense on their behalf seems strained to me.

They did as most people would in that situation, which was to be polite.

Anyway, does it really take that much out of you to admit that a mega-millionaire who has been able to spend the last 5 years campaigning for president making a joke about being unemployed to a group of actually unemployed regular folks is pretty tone-deaf, somewhat insulting, and indicates not being in touch with how real people feel about real problems?

alpha_omega
06-14-2012, 11:16 AM
Also he quite bizarrely says the word "sport" inappropriately. I'm not sure of the context, but the other day he was talking to some group and he says, "The other day I met a guy who was 7 feet tall. I assumed he was in sport, but he wasn't in sport."

Who the fuk talks like that?

Sounds kind of European to me.

patteeu
06-14-2012, 11:16 AM
They did as most people would in that situation, which was to be polite.

Anyway, does it really take that much out of you to admit that a mega-millionaire who has been able to spend the last 5 years campaigning for president making a joke about being unemployed to a group of actually unemployed regular folks is pretty tone-deaf, somewhat insulting, and indicates not being in touch with how real people feel about real problems?

I don't agree with you. It sounded like authentic laughter at a genuinely funny, if not gut-busting, remark to me. Maybe if he'd have thrown in a four letter word or two you wouldn't think he's so square.

All that matters to me is that Romney is in touch with American capitalism and national security. That alone is enough of a distinction to earn my vote.

Iz Zat Chew
06-14-2012, 11:25 AM
So the basic story here is that Obama knows basketball and Romney doesn't?

Who cares? Romney has experience as an executive in the business world and Obama's executive experience has been OJT while running the country into the ground.

Given the choice of caring whether he knows sports or not just doesn't seem to be a valid point to vote against him.

The question that should be asked is which of them will be capable enough to get the economy of this country turned around.

cosmo20002
06-14-2012, 11:35 AM
I don't agree with you. It sounded like authentic laughter at a genuinely funny, if not gut-busting, remark to me. Maybe if he'd have thrown in a four letter word or two you wouldn't think he's so square.

All that matters to me is that Romney is in touch with American capitalism and national security. That alone is enough of a distinction to earn my vote.

His squareness doesn't bother me. I wouldn't mind a square president. I just think its funny that you accuse people of having blinders on for Obama and you can't even admit that Willard Mitt "I live for laughter" Romney comes across as Thurston Howell III trying to act normal.

Where's that "Who let the dogs out" video clip?

cosmo20002
06-14-2012, 11:39 AM
So the basic story here is that Obama knows basketball and Romney doesn't?

Who cares? Romney has experience as an executive in the business world and Obama's executive experience has been OJT while running the country into the ground.

Given the choice of caring whether he knows sports or not just doesn't seem to be a valid point to vote against him.

The question that should be asked is which of them will be capable enough to get the economy of this country turned around.

The title of the post is "Romney is such a huge freaking tool" and it gave an example where he "joked" with unemployed people that he is also unemployed--just like them! ROFL Get it? Even though he is voluntarily unemployed and doesn't need to rely on employment income to pay bills? ROFL Oh, man--that's good stuff right there.

I said earlier in this thread that being a awkward tool doesn't mean a person couldn't be a good president.

However, going along with the theme of the thread, I agree that Romney is a huge freaking tool.

KILLER_CLOWN
06-14-2012, 12:05 PM
His nuts have been in my mouth from day one. That's good enough for me.

Fyp

Iz Zat Chew
06-14-2012, 12:14 PM
The title of the post is "Romney is such a huge freaking tool" and it gave an example where he "joked" with unemployed people that he is also unemployed--just like them! Get it? Even though he is voluntarily unemployed and doesn't need to rely on employment income to pay bills? Oh, man--that's good stuff right there.

I said earlier in this thread that being a awkward tool doesn't mean a person couldn't be a good president.

However, going along with the theme of the thread, I agree that Romney is a huge freaking tool.

If you have the money he has you have the opportunity to work for nothing. Looking to the whole picture I'd rather have someone of means in office rather than someone that's trying to secure his financial future.

He doesn't have a sense of humor that you would like? He'a awkward? He doesn't need to work so technically he is unemployed unless you want to consider the time he has invested for others benefit.

With tools like you around I doubt that any human being on the earth can measure up to your loser of a president you want in office for another 4 years.

Romney might be a tool, but in the case of being president he will be a tool that gets the country back to where it should be. Obama wants to get it to bankruptcy and invalidate the constitution, it's just a piece of old paper after all, right cosmo?

FD
06-14-2012, 12:20 PM
Who cares if he is a tool? Charisma and the ability to persuade are highly overrated in presidents in the modern partisan era.

His inability to identify a donut was pretty hilarious though. I mean, come on.

cosmo20002
06-14-2012, 12:21 PM
Romney might be a tool

Thank you--that's all we were getting at.

Romney record (mandated health care and 47th in jobs!) and being a bad president is another issue. This thread is strictly tool-related.

Actually, there's so much talk of tools in this thread I'm shocked that vilepuss hasn't sniffed it out yet.

vailpass
06-14-2012, 12:28 PM
Romney might be a tool, obama is a confirmed tool.
Doesn't matter.

ABO

cosmo20002
06-14-2012, 12:38 PM
Who cares if he is a tool? Charisma and the ability to persuade are highly overrated in presidents in the modern partisan era.

His inability to identify a donut was pretty hilarious though. I mean, come on.

Had to look that one up. Awesome.

"Make sure one of those chocolate...uh...uh...goodies goes along with us."

Donut! Its called a donut! Wow.



Im not familiar precisely with exactly what I said, but I stand by what I said, whatever it was.

Iz Zat Chew
06-14-2012, 12:39 PM
Thank you--that's all we were getting at.

Romney record (mandated health care and 47th in jobs!) and being a bad president is another issue. This thread is strictly tool-related.

Actually, there's so much talk of tools in this thread I'm shocked that vilepuss hasn't sniffed it out yet.

The only reason you call him a tool is because of your lame attempts to discount what he will do as President. In Romney's case he will be a GOOD tool for America, unlike the pos tool we now have as a president.

patteeu
06-14-2012, 12:41 PM
It will be nice to have someone who can get things done back in the White House. And by "things" I mean things that are good for our country.

cosmo20002
06-14-2012, 12:48 PM
It will be nice to have someone who can get things done back in the White House. And by "things" I mean things that are good for our country.

Wow, look at all the Romney love. How soon they forget/forgive/ignore his insurance mandating, flip-flopping ways. If he can deliver some of that magic he used to make Mass. 47th in jobs, we'll be set.

patteeu
06-14-2012, 12:50 PM
Wow, look at all the Romney love. How soon they forget/forgive/ignore his insurance mandating, flip-flopping ways. If he can deliver some of that magic he used to make Mass. 47th in jobs, we'll be set.

Massachusetts wasn't 47th in jobs. They were effectively at full employment. What you meant was that they didn't have as much job growth as most other states. That's the kind of thing you have when almost everyone is already employed. It's a pretty nice problem to have.

mikey23545
06-14-2012, 12:52 PM
Romney could never be as cool as Hussein...


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5120/smokewz.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/3/smokewz.jpg/)

mikey23545
06-14-2012, 12:55 PM
I mean, never...


http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/8826/obamaridesbicycle.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/845/obamaridesbicycle.jpg/)

Iz Zat Chew
06-14-2012, 12:55 PM
Wow, look at all the Romney love. How soon they forget/forgive/ignore his insurance mandating, flip-flopping ways. If he can deliver some of that magic he used to make Mass. 47th in jobs, we'll be set.

Massachusetts wasn't 47th in jobs. They were effectively at full employment. What you meant was that they didn't have as much job growth as most other states. That's the kind of thing you have when almost everyone is already employed. It's a pretty nice problem to have.

It seems the joke might be on cosmo, all of a sudden he proves his research capability is as bad most liberals.

patteeu
06-14-2012, 12:56 PM
Romney could never be as cool as Hussein...


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5120/smokewz.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/3/smokewz.jpg/)

Here he is as in his younger days as a part of the Choom Gang (http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/a-users-guide-to-smoking-pot-with-barack-obama):

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/5/15/17/enhanced-buzz-10964-1337117003-4.jpg

mikey23545
06-14-2012, 01:02 PM
Here he is as in his younger days as a part of the Choom Gang (http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/a-users-guide-to-smoking-pot-with-barack-obama):

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/5/15/17/enhanced-buzz-10964-1337117003-4.jpg


I would have thought he was a member of the Van Buren Boys...

Calcountry
06-14-2012, 01:09 PM
Problem is, I believe in some of the things he gives lip service to, but he's such a fake individual that it's hard to believe he believes a word he says.He is "Howdy Doody", wooden puppet that smiles all the time, wooden, and controlled by strings.

vailpass
06-14-2012, 01:12 PM
Here he is as in his younger days as a part of the Choom Gang (http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/a-users-guide-to-smoking-pot-with-barack-obama):

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/5/15/17/enhanced-buzz-10964-1337117003-4.jpg

LMAO God help us. THAT is our President.

Setsuna
06-14-2012, 06:05 PM
He is "Howdy Doody", wooden puppet that smiles all the time, wooden, and controlled by strings.

I bet if, during March Madness, he came on tv and gave us his picks he'd be exactly what you want right? Not that the country is drowning or anything though.

cosmo20002
06-14-2012, 06:13 PM
What you meant was that they didn't have as much job growth as most other states.

Most other states = just 46 of them

cosmo20002
06-14-2012, 06:14 PM
It seems the joke might be on cosmo, all of a sudden he proves his research capability is as bad most liberals.

They were 47th. Refute it if you can, dipshit.

cosmo20002
06-14-2012, 06:17 PM
Here he is as in his younger days as a part of the Choom Gang:

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/5/15/17/enhanced-buzz-10964-1337117003-4.jpg

He wore a T-shirt and sunglasses and had hair appropriate for his age and the times? What a tool!

cosmo20002
06-14-2012, 06:19 PM
I bet if, during March Madness, he came on tv and gave us his picks he'd be exactly what you want right? Not that the country is drowning or anything though.

I'm sure he will. Many times he has professed his love of "sport."

Aries Walker
06-14-2012, 06:30 PM
Ahh yeah, no he isn't, nobody is.
Michael Dukakis sure was.

Iz Zat Chew
06-14-2012, 06:36 PM
They were 47th. Refute it if you can, dipshit.

In growth you stupid fucker. If you have low percentage unemployment what would you expect the growth to be? Something else you might want to consider is the population of the state and compare the figures based on comparative population. But then that's far above the head of a stupid fucker like you.

Gary
06-14-2012, 06:37 PM
Will there ever be a time in our future where the two sides aren't so butt hurt about each other's political views that they have to turn a simple discussion about one aspect of a man's public persona into my presidential candidate could beat up your presidential candidate?

Aries Walker
06-14-2012, 06:47 PM
Massachusetts was, in fact, 47th in new job creation from 2002 to 2006, when Romney was in office. (It's based on percentage growth, so comparative population has nothing to do with it; besides, 35 states with lower populations than Massachusetts all did better than they did during those years).

However, Politifact here is pretty clear in pointing out that new job creation has very little to do with the Governor's policies, so it says Half True.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jun/05/david-axelrod/david-axelrod-repeats-claim-massachusetts-under-mi/

Aries Walker
06-14-2012, 06:48 PM
Will there ever be a time in our future where the two sides aren't so butt hurt about each other's political views that they have to turn a simple discussion about one aspect of a man's public persona into my presidential candidate could beat up your presidential candidate?
Ha! No, no there will not be. You should read up on Andrew Jackson's campaign; it was savagery.

Iz Zat Chew
06-14-2012, 06:50 PM
Will there ever be a time in our future where the two sides aren't so butt hurt about each other's political views that they have to turn a simple discussion about one aspect of a man's public persona into my presidential candidate could beat up your presidential candidate?

Tell me Gary, what did you expect to find in a forum with the name:
Washington D.C. and the Holy Land?

Left hates right.
Right hates left.
Christians are made fun of.
Athiests are under attack.
Catholics are covering their butts regarding the priests who are the worst pedofiles on the face of the earth because they should be above sin.

It's worse than that on any given day and it's continuious. Pick a side and get in the fight, defend your view. Or realize it for what it is and live with it.

Gary
06-14-2012, 07:21 PM
Tell me Gary, what did you expect to find in a forum with the name:
Washington D.C. and the Holy Land?

Left hates right.
Right hates left.
Christians are made fun of.
Athiests are under attack.
Catholics are covering their butts regarding the priests who are the worst pedofiles on the face of the earth because they should be above sin.

It's worse than that on any given day and it's continuious. Pick a side and get in the fight, defend your view. Or realize it for what it is and live with it.

But we are all adults right? I just had a discussion about this very thing with my brother who got heated when he and I were talking politics a week or so ago. He got pissed and started lashing out like our conversation turned personal. After he calmed down & realized I was in no way getting angry or frustrated or lashing out at him, he apologized and we just agreed to disagree. It just baffles me that people are so absolute, uptight, & sometimes childish about their personal views on politics (as well as certain other topics). I don't care if Mitt Romney was my brother-in-law...If someone thinks he is awkward and out of touch in public, so be it. I don't have to declare war on their political views every time they express an opinion.

InChiefsHell
06-14-2012, 07:33 PM
What? Obutthead supporters think Romney sucks? Holy shit!!!

cosmo20002
06-14-2012, 07:33 PM
In growth you stupid ****er. If you have low percentage unemployment what would you expect the growth to be? Something else you might want to consider is the population of the state and compare the figures based on comparative population. But then that's far above the head of a stupid ****er like you.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You don't know their rate compared to other states. You're just yapping nonsense. 47th.

InChiefsHell
06-14-2012, 07:35 PM
Tell me Gary, what did you expect to find in a forum with the name:
Washington D.C. and the Holy Land?

Left hates right.
Right hates left.
Christians are made fun of.
Athiests are under attack.
Catholics are covering their butts regarding the priests who are the worst pedofiles on the face of the earth because they should be above sin.

It's worse than that on any given day and it's continuious. Pick a side and get in the fight, defend your view. Or realize it for what it is and live with it.

What in the hell are you blathering about? :spock:

Iz Zat Chew
06-14-2012, 08:25 PM
What in the hell are you blathering about? :spock:

I suppose you didn't see the question about this forum.

If you don't follow the basic comments I made then maybe you haven't been paying attention to all of the bitching back and forth about politics, religion, etc.

I didn't create this forum but it is a pretty volatile place to post. There is more hate on this one forum than I've seen anywhere in my lifetime.

cosmo20002
06-14-2012, 08:38 PM
What? Obutthead supporters think Romney sucks? Holy shit!!!

No, we think he WOULD suck.

Currently, we just think he is a tool for mocking the unemployed, saying he loves "sport", that he "lives for laughter", and that he does not know the name of a round, cake-like "goody" with a hole in the middle. [Correct answer is: Donut]

mlyonsd
06-14-2012, 08:51 PM
No, we think he WOULD suck.

Currently, we just think he is a tool for mocking the unemployed, saying he loves "sport", that he "lives for laughter", and that he does not know the name of a round, cake-like "goody" with a hole in the middle. [Correct answer is: Donut]I bet he knows how many states are in the union. And I doubt he'd tell a joke about his wife doing pushups. We could play this game all night.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRdpdIOf-QtAiokHjCYbVENqPYPrC1CS9yKJWAmElfx1a9UKbyoPQ

cosmo20002
06-14-2012, 09:02 PM
I bet he knows how many states are in the union.

And I doubt he'd tell a joke about his wife doing pushups. We could play this game all night.


He probably does since I believe he owns a house in most of them.

I'm not sure Mitt's programming includes joke capability, but his wife would have to first do a pushup for him to make a joke about it.

patteeu
06-14-2012, 09:16 PM
Most other states = just 46 of them

Right. Such a good employment situation that very little job growth was possible. Sounds pretty good to me. Maybe we should ask some of the Obama unemployed what they think.

patteeu
06-14-2012, 09:28 PM
He wore a T-shirt and sunglasses and had hair appropriate for his age and the times? What a tool!

And he bullied other kids if they didn't hold their marijuana hits long enough. Let's not leave that out.

mlyonsd
06-14-2012, 09:31 PM
He probably does since I believe he owns a house in most of them.

I'm not sure Mitt's programming includes joke capability, but his wife would have to first do a pushup for him to make a joke about it.I realize you hate success, that's probably why you like Obama.

And, I'd bet Mitt's wife could probably still do more pushups than Barack even though she has MS.

You really suck at this btw.

patteeu
06-14-2012, 09:32 PM
Massachusetts was, in fact, 47th in new job creation from 2002 to 2006, when Romney was in office. (It's based on percentage growth, so comparative population has nothing to do with it; besides, 35 states with lower populations than Massachusetts all did better than they did during those years).

However, Politifact here is pretty clear in pointing out that new job creation has very little to do with the Governor's policies, so it says Half True.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jun/05/david-axelrod/david-axelrod-repeats-claim-massachusetts-under-mi/

Once again, Romney's Massachusetts was in a state of full employment so job growth isn't a very meaningful measure.

cosmo20002
06-14-2012, 09:37 PM
And, I'd bet Mitt's wife could probably still do more pushups than Barack even though she has MS.



I really haven't sized him up physically as you aparently have, so I'll defer to your superior knowledge on this matter.

mlyonsd
06-14-2012, 09:41 PM
I really haven't sized him up physically as you aparently have, so I'll defer to your superior knowledge on this matter.oooooooo.....burn.

cosmo20002
06-14-2012, 09:49 PM
I realize you hate success, that's probably why you like Obama.

And, I'd bet Mitt's wife could probably still do more pushups than Barack even though she has MS.

You really suck at this btw.

oooooooo.....burn.

ROFL

J Diddy
06-14-2012, 09:51 PM
For all those going all gung ho on the mediocre candidacy of Mitt Romney, I say this to you. I know how you feel. I was there in 04 when I was supporting a mediocre candidate in Kerry. I know the absolute terror you must feel when you think of a president that you dislike so much gaining a second term.

First, you're all "who is this douchebag?" Next your like, "man this guy isn't that bad." Then finally moving on to "this guy is better than sliced bread."
Just like Kerry wasn't, Romney isn't either.

It's alright, though, I will be there with you in November for moral support when your mediocre candidate gets beaten.

cosmo20002
06-14-2012, 10:06 PM
For all those going all gung ho on the mediocre candidacy of Mitt Romney, I say this to you. I know how you feel. I was there in 04 when I was supporting a mediocre candidate in Kerry. I know the absolute terror you must feel when you think of a president that you dislike so much gaining a second term.

First, you're all "who is this douchebag?" Next your like, "man this guy isn't that bad." Then finally moving on to "this guy is better than sliced bread."
Just like Kerry wasn't, Romney isn't either.

It's alright, though, I will be there with you in November for moral support when your mediocre candidate gets beaten.

They sure seemed to have gone through the rationalization process pretty quickly with Romney. Just a couple weeks ago, they were upset that Romney was a big government flip-flopper who mandated health insurance. Now, they get upset if you point out how odd it is that Mitt made it to his 60s without knowing what a donut is.

Iz Zat Chew
06-14-2012, 10:10 PM
For all those going all gung ho on the mediocre candidacy of Mitt Romney, I say this to you. I know how you feel. I was there in 04 when I was supporting a mediocre candidate in Kerry. I know the absolute terror you must feel when you think of a president that you dislike so much gaining a second term.

First, you're all "who is this douchebag?" Next your like, "man this guy isn't that bad." Then finally moving on to "this guy is better than sliced bread."
Just like Kerry wasn't, Romney isn't either.

It's alright, though, I will be there with you in November for moral support when your mediocre candidate gets beaten.

It's not like Romney is the best republican for the job, he's the guy that was picked out of the group. Do you think that we shold just turn our back on the rest of the republicans in the country and vote for obama? Did you vote for Bush in 2004? I bet you voted for Kerry knowing he wasn't the best thing sinced bread, why not Bush if Kerry was so bad?

In my opinion Romney would win hands down against Kerry. I hope he has enough support to beat obama, the country can't take another 4 years of that stuff.

J Diddy
06-14-2012, 11:00 PM
It's not like Romney is the best republican for the job, he's the guy that was picked out of the group. Do you think that we shold just turn our back on the rest of the republicans in the country and vote for obama? Did you vote for Bush in 2004? I bet you voted for Kerry knowing he wasn't the best thing sinced bread, why not Bush if Kerry was so bad?

In my opinion Romney would win hands down against Kerry. I hope he has enough support to beat obama, the country can't take another 4 years of that stuff.

The country is coming up and all Romney would do is to either stop that growth or at best slow it down.

Hell no I didn't vote for Bush, I voted "other" and I rationalized the hell out of it, just as you and others are doing. However, Romney is what he is. To think he's something special that the country needs is false. All he is the "other." The same rationalization that is being used to build him up, is the same rationalization that would be given to any other candidate had they survived the primaries.

Iz Zat Chew
06-14-2012, 11:46 PM
The country is coming up and all Romney would do is to either stop that growth or at best slow it down.

Hell no I didn't vote for Bush, I voted "other" and I rationalized the hell out of it, just as you and others are doing. However, Romney is what he is. To think he's something special that the country needs is false. All he is the "other." The same rationalization that is being used to build him up, is the same rationalization that would be given to any other candidate had they survived the primaries.

It's not really rationalizing when the choice is 'anyone' against Obama, in my book 'anyone' wins every time.

Like I said before, he is the only conservative running and he certainly fits the bill as "anyone but obama". If you were a republican running against obama I'd vote for you and I don't hold anything about you in high regard.

J Diddy
06-15-2012, 12:00 AM
It's not really rationalizing when the choice is 'anyone' against Obama, in my book 'anyone' wins every time.

Like I said before, he is the only conservative running and he certainly fits the bill as "anyone but obama". If you were a republican running against obama I'd vote for you and I don't hold anything about you in high regard.

That's where I have evolved and you obviously haven't.

Aries Walker
06-15-2012, 12:01 AM
Once again, Romney's Massachusetts was in a state of full employment so job growth isn't a very meaningful measure.
Nope. Massachusetts's unemployment rate was about equal to the national average (http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=z1ebjpgk2654c1_&met_y=unemployment_rate&idim=state:ST250000&fdim_y=seasonality:S&dl=en&hl=en&q=massachusetts+unemployment+rate#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=unemployment_rate&fdim_y=seasonality:S&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country&idim=country:US&idim=state:ST250000&ifdim=country&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false) for basically that whole stretch. If anything, it was a little bit below.

Check out Maryland, Delaware, Virginia, Vermont, New Hampshire, Nebraska, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Hawai'i, and both Dakotas on that chart. They had much better unemployment rates - meaning they had much more 'full employment' - and they still all beat Massachusetts in job creation during that time.

Seriously, you'd be far better off using the "The Chief Executive doesn't influence job creation rates very much" argument. Unlike the one you've been trying, it's actually supported by facts.

Iz Zat Chew
06-15-2012, 12:09 AM
That's where I have evolved and you obviously haven't.

In what respect? I don't see any change in your position so you've got to be thinking of something other.

jspchief
06-15-2012, 12:28 AM
Romney lacks charisma. It may not have any impact on his ability as president, but it certainly could have an impact on his ability to become president.

Like it or not, charisma plays a role in who gets votes, imo. It shouldn't, but it does.

chiefzilla1501
06-15-2012, 04:43 AM
I don't have to like Romney as a person, nor do I think I ever will. I just have to think he's going to do a good job as a President. Personally, I hate that likeability should be more important than leadership.

Iz Zat Chew
06-15-2012, 05:04 AM
Romney lacks charisma. It may not have any impact on his ability as president, but it certainly could have an impact on his ability to become president.

Like it or not, charisma plays a role in who gets votes, imo. It shouldn't, but it does.

That is exactly what hurt the U.S. in 2008.

Saulbadguy
06-15-2012, 06:09 AM
Romney = Obama

patteeu
06-15-2012, 06:28 AM
The country is coming up and all Romney would do is to either stop that growth or at best slow it down.

Hell no I didn't vote for Bush, I voted "other" and I rationalized the hell out of it, just as you and others are doing. However, Romney is what he is. To think he's something special that the country needs is false. All he is the "other." The same rationalization that is being used to build him up, is the same rationalization that would be given to any other candidate had they survived the primaries.

How can the judgement of a guy who voted for both John Kerry and Barack Obama be trusted? Spare us your predictions about economy.

chiefzilla1501
06-15-2012, 06:31 AM
Romney = Obama

Obama is a guy with no credentials and experience who campaigned on a platform of hope and likability.

Romney is a guy with credentials and real business experience who is campaigning despite being very unlikeable.

They couldn't be more different. The difference is, in Bain and any private sector company, you win because you deliver results. The presidency is a beauty pageant. That's why this country is so fucked up.

patteeu
06-15-2012, 06:35 AM
Nope. Massachusetts's unemployment rate was about equal to the national average (http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=z1ebjpgk2654c1_&met_y=unemployment_rate&idim=state:ST250000&fdim_y=seasonality:S&dl=en&hl=en&q=massachusetts+unemployment+rate#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=unemployment_rate&fdim_y=seasonality:S&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country&idim=country:US&idim=state:ST250000&ifdim=country&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false) for basically that whole stretch. If anything, it was a little bit below.

Check out Maryland, Delaware, Virginia, Vermont, New Hampshire, Nebraska, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Hawai'i, and both Dakotas on that chart. They had much better unemployment rates - meaning they had much more 'full employment' - and they still all beat Massachusetts in job creation during that time.

Seriously, you'd be far better off using the "The Chief Executive doesn't influence job creation rates very much" argument. Unlike the one you've been trying, it's actually supported by facts.

Again, in a climate of full employment, job growth is a poor measure of economic merit. It doesn't really matter where Massachussets falls on that ranking list because unemployment wasn't a problem.

Unfortunately, in the era of Obama, unemployment has become a problem everywhere.

Seriously, unless deceptive demagoguery is your goal, you'd be better off trying to make donuts an issue.

Saulbadguy
06-15-2012, 06:44 AM
Obama is a guy with no credentials and experience who campaigned on a platform of hope and likability.

Romney is a guy with credentials and real business experience who is campaigning despite being very unlikeable.

They couldn't be more different. The difference is, in Bain and any private sector company, you win because you deliver results. The presidency is a beauty pageant. That's why this country is so fucked up.

Romney isn't conservative at all, he is just pandering to idiots now who believe he's changed.

Other candidates (Santorum, Gingrich) were actually conservatives but they got their asses handed to them for being way too fucking crazy.

Neither candidate will endorse fiscally sound policies. At this point I don't care who becomes president, big(ger) government is on it's way.

J Diddy
06-15-2012, 07:09 AM
How can the judgement of a guy who voted for both John Kerry and Barack Obama be trusted? Spare us your predictions about economy.

How can a guy who voted for Bush and McCain?

Iz Zat Chew
06-15-2012, 07:11 AM
Again, in a climate of full employment, job growth is a poor measure of economic merit. It doesn't really matter where Massachussets falls on that ranking list because unemployment wasn't a problem.

Unfortunately, in the era of Obama, unemployment has become a problem everywhere.

Seriously, unless deceptive demagoguery is your goal, you'd be better off trying to make donuts an issue.

You are aware there are those that are already spinning at high RPM regarding the donut issue. Funny thing about the donut issue, it is so obscure that nobody at work even has heard of it. Maybe we need to start watching / listening to the mainstream media for our information.

Iz Zat Chew
06-15-2012, 07:13 AM
How can a guy who voted for Bush and McCain?

Obama/Kerry Bush/McCain

It doesn't matter. With Kerry and Bush the lesser of the two evils was elected. With Obama and McCain the evil one was elected and the other guy lost because he is more milktoast AND had Sarah Palin on his ticket (probably added more votes to the republican tally because she was there than McCain would have gotten with Colin Powell on his ticket).

patteeu
06-15-2012, 07:14 AM
How can a guy who voted for Bush and McCain?

Bush was a strong President and the country had a pretty good run under him given the circumstances (at least until democrats took Congress). We were lucky to have him instead of a President Gore when shit hit the fan. If only we could have said that about the POTUS in position when it was time to lead us through the current economic issues.

J Diddy
06-15-2012, 07:42 AM
Bush was a strong President and the country had a pretty good run under him given the circumstances (at least until democrats took Congress). We were lucky to have him instead of a President Gore when shit hit the fan. If only we could have said that about the POTUS in position when it was time to lead us through the current economic issues.

Those "economic issues" were born under your "strong president."

I disagree that we were lucky. Bush got us involved in another war that had nothing to do with alqueda based on lies. If that's what you call strong leadership, so be it, but it ain't my cup of tea.

patteeu
06-15-2012, 08:02 AM
Those "economic issues" were born under your "strong president."

Yes, and the democrat Congress that the American people unwisely saddled him with.

I disagree that we were lucky. Bush got us involved in another war that had nothing to do with alqueda based on lies. If that's what you call strong leadership, so be it, but it ain't my cup of tea.

Not true.

J Diddy
06-15-2012, 08:42 AM
Yes, and the democrat Congress that the American people unwisely saddled him with.



Not true.

The hell you say.

Johnny Vegas
06-15-2012, 08:47 AM
LMAO at people who think Romney can turn this ship around. That guy is worse than Al Gore. I fucking hate Obama but Romney ain't any better than the shit stain on Obamas shoe. Just how is he in touch? I can't relate anything to this millionaire mormon.

Chiefshrink
06-15-2012, 08:48 AM
The hell you say.

Hey J Dildo !

Who are you voting for ???? Your answer will either stop this insane conversation or confirm your lunacy and an Obot on roids !!:rolleyes:

Who are you voting for???

Dave Lane
06-15-2012, 09:01 AM
Problem is, I believe in some of the things he gives lip service to, but he's such a fake individual that it's hard to believe he believes a word he says.

Then he is a complete and true representative of the republicans. He truly represents all the republicans in this forum. They should back and give financially to their candidate as he believes everything they do. Except maybe the magic underpants part...

Iz Zat Chew
06-15-2012, 09:14 AM
LMAO at people who think Romney can turn this ship around. That guy is worse than Al Gore. I ****ing hate Obama but Romney ain't any better than the shit stain on Obamas shoe. Just how is he in touch? I can't relate anything to this millionaire mormon.

The differences between Obama and Romney are that Romney has started businesses and made them work. Obama has not. Romney is as you've said, a millionaire, Obama wasn't in that category until he became president. Obama's executive experience was leading a group of pot smokers singing cumbyya.

I dislike most of what Romney stands for, but I dislike everything Obama stands for. One seems to be for America and the other just the opposite, I'll let you guess which guy is really out for himself.

I don't believe that Romney has tried to hide anything about his past, we can't say the same for Obama.

Iz Zat Chew
06-15-2012, 09:16 AM
Then he is a complete and true representative of the republicans. He truly represents all the republicans in this forum. They should back and give financially to their candidate as he believes everything they do. Except maybe the magic underpants part...:facepalm:

Johnny Vegas
06-15-2012, 09:25 AM
The differences between Obama and Romney are that Romney has started businesses and made them work. Obama has not. Romney is as you've said, a millionaire, Obama wasn't in that category until he became president. Obama's executive experience was leading a group of pot smokers singing cumbyya.

I dislike most of what Romney stands for, but I dislike everything Obama stands for. One seems to be for America and the other just the opposite, I'll let you guess which guy is really out for himself.

I don't believe that Romney has tried to hide anything about his past, we can't say the same for Obama.

I don't wanna get into an argument about pot. That pot smoker is president. So pot is irrelevant to his executive experience let alone his inability to succeed in life because he smoked pot in his time. Romney is a 1%'r. More Americans have failed businesses than succeeded. So when you got the high horse riding mormon who had the money to make a business succeed he won't have empathy for those who struggle because he got it to work why can't they? Also the fact Romney will be out for his own agenda like Obama he will make the Republican party look like an even bigger joke. I want someone to represent the R party with more of a will to stand for the people and not for CEO's bonus paycheck.

Johnny Vegas
06-15-2012, 09:28 AM
Also Obama is an even bigger tool now that he has stopped deporting young immigrants. Just in time before election.

RNR
06-15-2012, 09:31 AM
I have made it clear that, I am not of fan of Romney. That said this is a worthless video. You could assemble the same thing using the asinine statements Barry has made. In fact I am sure you could make Barry appear much worse~

Iz Zat Chew
06-15-2012, 09:54 AM
I have made it clear that, I am not of fan of Romney. That said this is a worthless video. You could assemble the same thing using the asinine statements Barry has made. In fact I am sure you could make Barry appear much worse~

Obummer won't appear much worse, it's a FACT, he is much worse!
(watch the libs go over the top)

cosmo20002
06-15-2012, 09:56 AM
We were lucky to have him instead of a President Gore when shit hit the fan.

Yeah, because that stupid Gore probably would have done something stupid like avenge 9/11 by invading the wrong country.:facepalm:

Iz Zat Chew
06-15-2012, 09:56 AM
I don't wanna get into an argument about pot. That pot smoker is president. So pot is irrelevant to his executive experience let alone his inability to succeed in life because he smoked pot in his time. Romney is a 1%'r. More Americans have failed businesses than succeeded. So when you got the high horse riding mormon who had the money to make a business succeed he won't have empathy for those who struggle because he got it to work why can't they? Also the fact Romney will be out for his own agenda like Obama he will make the Republican party look like an even bigger joke. I want someone to represent the R party with more of a will to stand for the people and not for CEO's bonus paycheck.

The problem is that there is only one person with the "R" by his name and we have the choice of him or Obama for another 4 years. My vote goes to ABO in the upcoming election, in this case it again will be for the lesser of the two evils. the bad news is that the current evil is doing his damndest to give America away.

Iz Zat Chew
06-15-2012, 09:57 AM
Cosmo is still a ****ing idiot.

cosmo20002
06-15-2012, 10:08 AM
And here we go....

The differences between Obama and Romney are that Romney has started businesses and made them work.

Do you have any idea what you are talking about? I'm curious as to which "businesses" you believe Romney started. And, how this means he would be a successful president.


Romney is as you've said, a millionaire, Obama wasn't in that category until he became president.

And this is relevant how? Romney was pretty much born a millionaire. What is your point?

One seems to be for America and the other just the opposite, I'll let you guess which guy is really out for himself.


No question from me here. Just pointing out that this is meaningless gibberish.


I don't believe that Romney has tried to hide anything about his past, we can't say the same for Obama.

What has Obama tried to hide?
Hopefully someone will ask Romney about his magic underwear or how he (yes, he personally) baptizes dead people. You'll see some hiding.

Iz Zat Chew
06-15-2012, 10:29 AM
Cosmo is still a loser.

cosmo20002
06-15-2012, 10:38 AM
Cosmo is still a ****ing idiot.

ROFL
And your responses are making you look ****ing brilliant! :drool:

Iz Zat Chew
06-15-2012, 10:42 AM
Cosmo is still unaware that what he writes means nothing other than to keep himself happy. I may be wasting my time, but it always gets you to blindly respond. Almost every post you've made lately has been of no value to anyone. Yes I realize that I'm playing the same game but it's so fun to see you creating your own shit pool and then playing in it.

cosmo20002
06-15-2012, 10:53 AM
Cosmo is still unaware that what he writes means nothing other than to keep himself happy. I may be wasting my time, but it always gets you to blindly respond. Almost every post you've made lately has been of no value to anyone. Yes I realize that I'm playing the same game but it's so fun to see you creating your own shit pool and then playing in it.

Translation:
"Stop asking me reasonable questions about the nutty assertions I make."

I've never seen someone so offended about being asked a question about his opinion. See post 104. They are reasonable questions. Give it a shot--

Iz Zat Chew
06-15-2012, 10:58 AM
:rolleyes:

tredadda
06-15-2012, 11:14 AM
Translation:
"Stop asking me reasonable questions about the nutty assertions I make."

I've never seen someone so offended about being asked a question about his opinion. See post 104. They are reasonable questions. Give it a shot--

ROFL So true.

Iz Zat Chew
06-15-2012, 11:24 AM
ROFL So true.

You are both idiots, but that has been determined by more than I.

tredadda is so offended by my posts that now he has to attack by way of a third party.

ROFLROFLROFL

Chickenshit was a very appropriate comment about old tredadda.

patteeu
06-15-2012, 11:28 AM
LMAO at people who think Romney can turn this ship around. That guy is worse than Al Gore. I ****ing hate Obama but Romney ain't any better than the shit stain on Obamas shoe. Just how is he in touch? I can't relate anything to this millionaire mormon.

Eat the rich! Burn the Mormons! Right on, dude! /drug addled

Aries Walker
06-15-2012, 11:55 AM
Man, there is a real race to the bottom going on here between Cosmo and Iz Zat. I wonder who is going to "win".

cosmo20002
06-15-2012, 12:03 PM
Man, there is a real race to the bottom going on here between Cosmo and Iz Zat. I wonder who is going to "win".

There's no equivalency between what we're doing. I try to get him to back up his assertions. He's just calling names. :deevee:

patteeu
06-15-2012, 12:48 PM
Man, there is a real race to the bottom going on here between Cosmo and Iz Zat. I wonder who is going to "win".

Cosmo should disengage before Iz Zat drives them both into the ground. In his defense, Cosmo hasn't been around long enough to know Iz Zat's painfully repetitive history here.

Iz Zat Chew
06-15-2012, 12:48 PM
Man, there is a real race to the bottom going on here between Cosmo and Iz Zat. I wonder who is going to "win".

I will win, I've used my Zen powers to blot them from memory.
And it's a big fucking blot, I have to tell you! ROFL

Iz Zat Chew
06-15-2012, 12:49 PM
Cosmo should disengage before Iz Zat drives them both into the ground. In his defense, Cosmo hasn't been around long enough to know Iz Zat's painfully repetitive history here.

Once again you suppose things that are not true. That's OK though, that just means I'm a legend before my time.

patteeu
06-15-2012, 12:52 PM
Once again you suppose things that are not true. That's OK though, that just means I'm a legend before my time.

I did get one thing wrong. Cosmo's join date is way back in 2002. I don't know how active he's been during all of your various incarnations though, Tom.

Iz Zat Chew
06-15-2012, 12:57 PM
I did get one thing wrong. Cosmo's join date is way back in 2002. I don't know how active he's been during all of your various incarnations though, Tom.
Whatever

cosmo20002
06-15-2012, 01:01 PM
I did get one thing wrong. Cosmo's join date is way back in 2002. I don't know how active he's been during all of your various incarnations though, Tom.

Not very active as a poster, and not at all in DC until a few months ago when I decided to grace your lives with my wisdom. So, Iz is new to me, and I know nothing of his incarnations, though I have wondered what the "Tom" references were about.

patteeu
06-15-2012, 01:24 PM
Not very active as a poster, and not at all in DC until a few months ago when I decided to grace your lives with my wisdom. So, Iz is new to me, and I know nothing of his incarnations, though I have wondered what the "Tom" references were about.

If you've ever heard about Tom Cash, now you've met him. I don't know the early CP lore well enough to tell you how everything got started, but at one point it came to a head between Tom Cash and Phobia. Since then, TC has been banned and reappeared a zillion times with different usernames and it always ends the same way.

It seems like he does alright at first when he comes back, but once he's been identified he grows ever more annoying and insufferable. The whole board is better off when people pat him on the head and ignore his lame arguments and winceworthy attempts at snark. Personally, I ignore most of his posts and most of the posts that are made in response to him so I haven't really kept up at all with your back and forth here.

Iz Zat Chew
06-15-2012, 01:48 PM
If you've ever heard about Tom Cash, now you've met him. I don't know the early CP lore well enough to tell you how everything got started, but at one point it came to a head between Tom Cash and Phobia. Since then, TC has been banned and reappeared a zillion times with different usernames and it always ends the same way.

It seems like he does alright at first when he comes back, but once he's been identified he grows ever more annoying and insufferable. The whole board is better off when people pat him on the head and ignore his lame arguments and winceworthy attempts at snark. Personally, I ignore most of his posts and most of the posts that are made in response to him so I haven't really kept up at all with your back and forth here.

If you want me to be Tom Cash that's what you get to want. It doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.

RNR
06-15-2012, 02:08 PM
Cosmo should disengage before Iz Zat drives them both into the ground. In his defense, Cosmo hasn't been around long enough to know Iz Zat's painfully repetitive history here.

I am not sure what has happened over the years. I know he has angered some people here. Him and I have had limited interaction. We see things much differently. One time it got a little heated, but we ended up agreeing to disagree. He has never acted in anyway towards me that would warrant a ban. The trouble I have witnessed, is people egging him on, as much as anything. Those times it seemed he was trying to fit in, and the old fashioned planet dog pile happened. It seems like he gets nailed for prior convections, and loses his cool. Maybe he has done something horrible that I am unaware of. He damn sure has not done anything ban worthy with this username that I have seen~

RNR
06-15-2012, 02:12 PM
If you want me to be Tom Cash that's what you get to want. It doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.

This post came in after mine. I assumed you were Tom Cash. Rather you are him or not, it does not change my feelings on your behavior. We most often see things much differently, but our exchanges have always been civil~

patteeu
06-15-2012, 02:20 PM
I am not sure what has happened over the years. I know he has angered some people here. Him and I have had limited interaction. We see things much differently. One time it got a little heated, but we ended up agreeing to disagree. He has never acted in anyway towards me that would warrant a ban. The trouble I have witnessed, is people egging him on, as much as anything. Those times it seemed he was trying to fit in, and the old fashioned planet dog pile happened. It seems like he gets nailed for prior convections, and loses his cool. Maybe he has done something horrible that I am unaware of. He damn sure has not done anything ban worthy with this username that I have seen~

I agree with everything in your post.

Iz Zat Chew
06-15-2012, 02:24 PM
This post came in after mine. I assumed you were Tom Cash. Rather you are him or not, it does not change my feelings on your behavior. We most often see things much differently, but our exchanges have always been civil~

You are right, it doesn't matter who I might be, the people see a resembalace to their friend. I'd just as soon be gone. I've never seen a website like this one.

RNR
06-15-2012, 02:41 PM
You are right, it doesn't matter who I might be, the people see a resembalace to their friend. I'd just as soon be gone. I've never seen a website like this one.

If you venture out of DC, and you post about life it's own self, it is a very cool site. I will say this, there are a handful of trolls that can make this place unbearable if you allow them to matter to you. I have been here over 10 years, and have watched some very cool posters leave. I have taken long breaks from this place over the years. There have been times that I let a some worthless shitbags get me upset. Not long ago I took a break thinking I would not return. After a while I realized it is just a pretend place to go to for fun. Many here have alter egos and say things here they would never have the balls to say in person. I have never posted a single word here I would not say in person. I am the same guy here, I am in real life. You just have to understand this is a place where cowards will talk bold, knowing they are safe. It is not for everyone~

Iz Zat Chew
06-15-2012, 02:59 PM
If you venture out of DC, and you post about life it's own self, it is a very cool site. I will say this, there are a handful of trolls that can make this place unbearable if you allow them to matter to you. I have been here over 10 years, and have watched some very cool posters leave. I have taken long breaks from this place over the years. There have been times that I let a some worthless shitbags get me upset. Not long ago I took a break thinking I would not return. After a while I realized it is just a pretend place to go to for fun. Many here have alter egos and say things here they would never have the balls to say in person. I have never posted a single word here I would not say in person. I am the same guy here, I am in real life. You just have to understand this is a place where cowards will talk bold, knowing they are safe. It is not for everyone~

I don't need to be here. I do respect your posts, don't let the bastards get you down.

NewChief
06-15-2012, 03:04 PM
You are right, it doesn't matter who I might be, the people see a resembalace to their friend. I'd just as soon be gone. I've never seen a website like this one.

:spock:

patteeu
06-15-2012, 03:06 PM
I don't need to be here.

It's hard to take that seriously with all the different usernames you've created to return here time after time.

cosmo20002
06-15-2012, 03:22 PM
If you've ever heard about Tom Cash, now you've met him. I don't know the early CP lore well enough to tell you how everything got started, but at one point it came to a head between Tom Cash and Phobia. Since then, TC has been banned and reappeared a zillion times with different usernames and it always ends the same way.

It seems like he does alright at first when he comes back, but once he's been identified he grows ever more annoying and insufferable. The whole board is better off when people pat him on the head and ignore his lame arguments and winceworthy attempts at snark. Personally, I ignore most of his posts and most of the posts that are made in response to him so I haven't really kept up at all with your back and forth here.

What does someone have to do to get banned?

Iz Zat Chew
06-15-2012, 03:25 PM
It's hard to take that seriously with all the different usernames you've created to return here time after time.

Are you aware just how wrong you are? I just wonder how many of the hundreds of people that have signed up to this site left because of people like you that take a falsehood and press it.

RNR
06-15-2012, 03:42 PM
What does someone have to do to get banned?

Worthless posts, and being stupid will not get you banned, so you are safe~

cosmo20002
06-15-2012, 04:16 PM
Worthless posts, and being stupid will not get you banned, so you are safe~

How about changing someone's words for a quote? Seems like that might be frowned upon.

RNR
06-15-2012, 04:27 PM
How about changing someone's words for a quote? Seems like that might be frowned upon.

Why cosmo, whatever do you mean? Look at my sig, there, now we can be friends again~

patteeu
06-15-2012, 04:50 PM
What does someone have to do to get banned?

Using racial slurs can get you banned although apparently slurs against homosexuals are less frowned upon.

Bypassing the word filter can get you banned. Just type the naughty word and let the filter asterisk it out for you. I believe the n-word can be typed and a filter will asterisk it out for you, but if you use it in an angry or personal way as opposed to a more academic way, you can still be banned.

Threatening someone IRL can get you banned.

Insensitive posts in a prayer thread can get you banned.

Pissing off the mods or a majority of the more socially accepted posters with insensitive posts like making light of an airplane crash and all the people who died in it can get you banned although this is a pretty blurry line AFAICT.

RNR
06-15-2012, 04:57 PM
Using racial slurs can get you banned although apparently slurs against homosexuals are less frowned upon.

Bypassing the word filter can get you banned. Just type the naughty word and let the filter asterisk it out for you. I believe the n-word can be typed and a filter will asterisk it out for you, but if you use it in an angry or personal way as opposed to a more academic way, you can still be banned.

Threatening someone IRL can get you banned.

Insensitive posts in a prayer thread can get you banned.

Pissing off the mods or a majority of the more socially accepted posters with insensitive posts like making light of an airplane crash and all the people who died in it can get you banned although this is a pretty blurry line AFAICT.
He can relax, gochiefs has broken every rule there is, and that worthless shitbag is still here~

KCTitus
06-15-2012, 05:41 PM
*sigh*

This guy is frankly more unlikable than John Kerry. He's going to lose.

Watched the video...nothing he said was that bad. People do need to be fired, if they aren't doing the job. The housing market, just like any market, needs to crash. Market's do need to reset.

Frankly, his not knowing what a doughnut was more 'toolish' to me, but frankly, the one thing that Romney isn't is a Marxist. So he's got that going for him.

patteeu
06-15-2012, 05:54 PM
Gerald Ford didn't get to be a star player on a bigtime college, national championship team by being an awkward klutz, but as a result of intense scrutiny and mischaracterization by those who opposed him politically, he was branded with a reputation as a stumbling, bumbling fool. The reality is that he was probably the most athletically gifted President we've ever had.

Mitt Romney didn't build a multi-million dollar fortune by building and leading an elite private equity firm, saving the floundering 2002 Winter Olympics, and guiding Massachusetts through several prosperous years by being a goofy, out-of-touch tool either.

Johnny Vegas
06-15-2012, 06:13 PM
But you know that America didn't vote Ford in either. Ford had the fortune of his boss, Nixon, getting busted and fired over the watergate scandal so he was only next in line. I doubt America would've voted Ford in if they had the chance.

patteeu
06-15-2012, 06:23 PM
But you know that America didn't vote Ford in either. Ford had the fortune of his boss, Nixon, getting busted and fired over the watergate scandal so he was only next in line. I doubt America would've voted Ford in if they had the chance.

Ford beat Ronald Reagan and very nearly beat the 70's version of Hope'n'Change while being saddled with the baggage of Watergate and his unpopular pardon of Nixon. I doubt that he would have ever run for President under different circumstances, but if he had I wouldn't be so sure about his inability to win.

HonestChieffan
06-15-2012, 06:28 PM
What Romney has going for him is he really seems sincere and honest. That really trumps Obama. Obama has under delivered on every promise and even ardent Obots are struggling with that fact

J Diddy
06-15-2012, 06:39 PM
What Romney has going for him is he really seems sincere and honest. That really trumps Obama. Obama has under delivered on every promise and even ardent Obots are struggling with that fact

If you believe any politician is sincere and honest, then you are the absolutely most naive person in the world and have NO business calling anyone an "obot."

HonestChieffan
06-15-2012, 06:46 PM
If you believe any politician is sincere and honest, then you are the absolutely most naive person in the world and have NO business calling anyone an "obot."

Thats ok. We all have the same data. You see it different than I do. I am Ok with that. It does no make you smarter than me or me dumber than you. I can accept your Pov and can be very comfortable with mine. I past being naive a long long time ago. I understand the game and would gladly have Mitt over Obama any day but recognize Mitt can only do so much. I have seen all of Obama I want.

J Diddy
06-15-2012, 06:49 PM
Thats ok. We all have the same data. You see it different than I do. I am Ok with that. It does no make you smarter than me or me dumber than you. I can accept your Pov and can be very comfortable with mine. I past being naive a long long time ago. I understand the game and would gladly have Mitt over Obama any day but recognize Mitt can only do so much. I have seen all of Obama I want.

The only difference I see in Romney is instead of individual welfare, there will be corporate welfare.

HonestChieffan
06-15-2012, 06:53 PM
The only difference I see in Romney is instead of individual welfare, there will be corporate welfare.

Ok

patteeu
06-15-2012, 07:05 PM
The only difference I see in Romney is instead of individual welfare, there will be corporate welfare.

Really? I think the difference between them will be far more complicated than that. Obama has extended plenty of corporate welfare and Romney won't eliminate individual welfare although there will be difference between the two on both. That's only the tip of the iceberg on their differences though. The most important difference is that Romney will be a leader and I'm not talking about the kind of "leader" who votes present and leads from behind either.

cosmo20002
06-15-2012, 10:29 PM
What Romney has going for him is he really seems sincere and honest.

Are you actually serious? Sincere? Not when you can see clips of him today and then clips from 10 years ago saying and doing exactly the opposite. His biggest problem is the very real flip-flopping, and that is kind of the opposite of being honest and sincere.

cosmo20002
06-15-2012, 10:44 PM
Gerald Ford didn't get to be a star player on a bigtime college, national championship team by being an awkward klutz, but as a result of intense scrutiny and mischaracterization by those who opposed him politically, he was branded with a reputation as a stumbling, bumbling fool. The reality is that he was probably the most athletically gifted President we've ever had.

Ford beat Ronald Reagan and very nearly beat the 70's version of Hope'n'Change while being saddled with the baggage of Watergate and his unpopular pardon of Nixon. I doubt that he would have ever run for President under different circumstances, but if he had I wouldn't be so sure about his inability to win.

OK, lets not go overboard on Pres Ford. He was a center, which doesn't require the most grace on the field. The klutz stuff was surely overblown, as most personality quirks are for presidents, but it certainly was helped along by the many head-bonkings he suffered getting on AF1, nailing spectators will golf balls, and I also recall him nailing a tennis partner in the head with a shot. Also, Chevy Chase.

Yes he beat Reagan, but he was the sitting president. He's supposed to beat primary challengers. Reagan was kind of dick for doing that. Isn't he the guy who said don't speak badly of fellow Rs? So, there you go.

cosmo20002
06-15-2012, 10:49 PM
Mitt Romney didn't build a multi-million dollar fortune by building and leading an elite private equity firm, saving the floundering 2002 Winter Olympics, and guiding Massachusetts through several prosperous years by being a goofy, out-of-touch tool either.

He's certainly the classic rags-to-riches story.

I don't think he's thought of as goofy. Out-of-touch tool, yes. But I don't see being an out-of-touch tool being an obstacle to his Bain success. It was actually probably an asset.

patteeu
06-15-2012, 11:14 PM
OK, lets not go overboard on Pres Ford. He was a center, which doesn't require the most grace on the field. The klutz stuff was surely overblown, as most personality quirks are for presidents, but it certainly was helped along by the many head-bonkings he suffered getting on AF1, nailing spectators will golf balls, and I also recall him nailing a tennis partner in the head with a shot. Also, Chevy Chase. [quote]

He was also a standout linebacker. I don't think I went overboard at all.

[QUOTE=cosmo20002;8682561]Yes he beat Reagan, but he was the sitting president. He's supposed to beat primary challengers. Reagan was kind of dick for doing that. Isn't he the guy who said don't speak badly of fellow Rs? So, there you go.

Yeah, he beat Reagan. He was the only person to ever beat Reagan in an election for public office.

NewChief
06-16-2012, 07:06 AM
What Romney has going for him is he really seems sincere and honest. That really trumps Obama. Obama has under delivered on every promise and even ardent Obots are struggling with that fact

Your username makes so much sense now. Evidently you were raised in some linguistically isolated region where honesty means duplicitous.

patteeu
06-16-2012, 07:18 AM
Your username makes so much sense now. Evidently you were raised in some linguistically isolated region where honesty means duplicitous.

I think everyone knows that Romney is a politician and therefore hasn't always told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. But I think that one of the reasons he comes across as a bit awkward as a campaigner sometimes is that he's basically an honest and sincere guy trying to be a politician. He's not the practiced and non-selfconsious type of liar that slick politicians like Bill Clinton or Barack Obama are.

chiefzilla1501
06-16-2012, 09:04 AM
Romney isn't conservative at all, he is just pandering to idiots now who believe he's changed.

Other candidates (Santorum, Gingrich) were actually conservatives but they got their asses handed to them for being way too ****ing crazy.

Neither candidate will endorse fiscally sound policies. At this point I don't care who becomes president, big(ger) government is on it's way.

If you hear some of the things Romney has said under his breath, you'll hear that most of what he wants is to cut some bloated government programs, including the HUD and the education department. You'll hear that he's a big proponent of states rights. As a guy who ran Bain, I think he knows a thing or two about the importance of efficiency. I don't think he's anything close to as austere as a Ron Paul, but to me, that's a very good thing.

We can talk all day long about conservative principles, but the fact is, we have a misperception that a stubborn, pushy leader who rams an agenda down the opposition's throat is the best way to do it. In the business world, we care more about leaders than stubborn guys with smart principles. Like I said, people rip on Romney for being too liberal in Massachussetts, without pointing out that the alternative was to stubbornly push his principles, get nothing done, and watch his state continue to bleed. I like Romney because I think he's a good enough leader to understand the give and take you need to make to push real change. Some people view that as unprincipled. In the business world, it's viewed as common sense, to adjust based on circumstance.

BigChiefFan
06-16-2012, 08:45 PM
This isn't an election, this is a passing of the baton to another swindler.

Taco John
06-16-2012, 09:24 PM
I think everyone knows that Romney is a politician and therefore hasn't always told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. But I think that one of the reasons he comes across as a bit awkward as a campaigner sometimes is that he's basically an honest and sincere guy trying to be a politician. He's not the practiced and non-selfconsious type of liar that slick politicians like Bill Clinton or Barack Obama are.

True puppy love.

An honest and sincere guy trying to be a politician. LOL!

That's pretty adorable.

I think he's a rich guy disconnected from the standard American experience and wouldn't know it if it baked him an apple pie and put a sparkler in his hand. He's a rich guy awkwardly trying to sound like a regular joe. In fact, he's a rich guy trying to be the regular joes of all regular joes.

Turns out that quality is easy to lampoon:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/812fbaau7qQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I can't believe anybody could listen to this guy for any amount of time and find sincerity to be a strong quality in him.

chiefzilla1501
06-16-2012, 09:52 PM
True puppy love.

An honest and sincere guy trying to be a politician. LOL!

That's pretty adorable.

I think he's a rich guy disconnected from the standard American experience and wouldn't know it if it baked him an apple pie and put a sparkler in his hand. He's a rich guy awkwardly trying to sound like a regular joe. In fact, he's a rich guy trying to be the regular joes of all regular joes.

Turns out that quality is easy to lampoon:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/812fbaau7qQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I can't believe anybody could listen to this guy for any amount of time and find sincerity to be a strong quality in him.

He's run a state, a legit company, and an olympic committee.

At least for the last two things, you don't earn those things unless people like you.

I don't give a shit if he's like Joe the Plumber. I care about if he can manage Joe the Plumber. Most CEOs are disconnected from reality. But most CEOs are also top-notch leaders.

patteeu
06-17-2012, 06:10 AM
True puppy love.

An honest and sincere guy trying to be a politician. LOL!

That's pretty adorable.

I think he's a rich guy disconnected from the standard American experience and wouldn't know it if it baked him an apple pie and put a sparkler in his hand. He's a rich guy awkwardly trying to sound like a regular joe. In fact, he's a rich guy trying to be the regular joes of all regular joes.

Turns out that quality is easy to lampoon:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/812fbaau7qQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I can't believe anybody could listen to this guy for any amount of time and find sincerity to be a strong quality in him.

That's a funny video. I bet Mitt Romney would be able to laugh at it because, unlike our current President, Mitt Romney can laugh at himself. He's going to be a much better leader than Obama the Present.

Cave Johnson
06-17-2012, 06:25 PM
That's a funny video. I bet Mitt Romney would be able to laugh at it because, unlike our current President, Mitt Romney can laugh at himself. He's going to be a much better leader than Obama the Present.

Keep spinning, spinner.

Baghdad Bob admires your panache.

La literatura
06-17-2012, 06:31 PM
That's a funny video. I bet Mitt Romney would be able to laugh at it because, unlike our current President, Mitt Romney can laugh at himself.

Writing fiction can be fun sometimes.

<iframe src="http://videos.nymag.com/video/President-Obamas-Slightly-Self/player?layout=&title_height=24" width="416" height="291" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe>

mlyonsd
06-17-2012, 08:47 PM
Keep spinning, spinner.

Baghdad Bob admires your panache.This awesome insight brought to you by the number 13 and the letter O.

patteeu
06-18-2012, 06:13 AM
Writing fiction can be fun sometimes.

<iframe src="http://videos.nymag.com/video/President-Obamas-Slightly-Self/player?layout=&title_height=24" width="416" height="291" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe>

"Slightly" is right.

InChiefsHell
06-18-2012, 06:54 AM
"Slightly" is right.

Has there ever been a President who had this many visits on talk shows to show what a "normal" guy he is? It's ridiculous! Guy's more of a pop star than a President...

Chocolate Hog
06-18-2012, 08:42 AM
What Romney has going for him is he really seems sincere and honest. That really trumps Obama. Obama has under delivered on every promise and even ardent Obots are struggling with that fact

Sincere and honest about being a progressive?

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LOCOChief
06-18-2012, 09:20 AM
He's run a state, a legit company, and an olympic committee.

At least for the last two things, you don't earn those things unless people like you.

I don't give a shit if he's like Joe the Plumber. I care about if he can manage Joe the Plumber. Most CEOs are disconnected from reality. But most CEOs are also top-notch leaders.

spot on. :clap:

LOCOChief
06-18-2012, 09:31 AM
Are you actually serious? Sincere? Not when you can see clips of him today and then clips from 10 years ago saying and doing exactly the opposite. His biggest problem is the very real flip-flopping, and that is kind of the opposite of being honest and sincere.

It is ok to change your mind. It's one thing to run,or campaign on something then do something completely different, I don't think that's what he's doing. He's picked his stance and he's running on it, it may be different then what he thought or felt "10 years ago" but really who give a shit.

If I was to guess I'd say Romney's convictions to his faith (one that I'm somewhat familiar with) would lead me to believe that he is an honest person.

Johnny Vegas
06-18-2012, 09:53 AM
That's a funny video. I bet Mitt Romney would be able to laugh at it because, unlike our current President, Mitt Romney can laugh at himself. He's going to be a much better leader than Obama the Present.

LMAO