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Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 09:58 AM
Uh, fuck Brady Quinn. We need to trade for Colt McCoy yesterday.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d829db453/article/colt-mccoy-reportedly-put-on-trading-block-by-browns?module=HP11_headline_stack

The Cleveland Browns reportedly tried to trade quarterback Colt McCoy during the draft. It didn't work, so the team kept him on the roster throughout the offseason.

Tony Grossi of ESPNCleveland.com writes Friday: "When Weeden was drafted, I was told by an NFL source that the Browns didnít want to 'pile on' McCoy and just release him. They were sensitive to the fact he had gotten such a raw deal already."

Mike Holmgren talked about that "raw deal" on Thursday.

"I think (Colt's) a wonderful young man, and a good football player," Holmgren said. "And if you are asking me to say was it fair last year? He had a tough go and he didnít get as much help as I thought he was going to get. But heck, thatís football.Ē

Translation: Thanks for trying. It wasn't enough.

Seneca Wallace can't imagine there being enough room for him and McCoy on the roster. Wallace knows things. Holmgren is likely to look for a way out for McCoy.

"They would like to find McCoy a new team, a new opportunity, to spare him the ignominy of being released. They will not demand much in a trade," Grossi writes.

A conditional late-round pick would probably get it done. We'd be on that happening. The Browns are trying to do McCoy a favor, but it doesn't do the 2012 Browns much of a favor to have this story drag out through August.

FD
06-15-2012, 10:01 AM
I think McCoy is probably a career backup, but I would still rather have him than Brady Quinn.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 10:02 AM
2011 per game stats:

Colt McCoy - 210 yards, 57.2%, 1.07 TD, .84 INT

Matt Cassel - 190 yards, 59.5%, 1.11 TD, 1.0 INT

beach tribe
06-15-2012, 10:09 AM
2011 per game stats:

Colt McCoy - 210 yards, 57.2%, 1.07 TD, .84 INT

Matt Cassel - 190 yards, 59.5%, 1.11 TD, 1.0 INT
Matt Cassel is the biggest whipping boy this board has ever seen.
Please, Pioli, rush out and get a guy with similar production....Do it Yesterday!!

Mile High Mania
06-15-2012, 10:09 AM
Cassell, McCoy, Quinn... not sure what type of trifecta that would be, but looks like three strikes to me.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 10:11 AM
Matt Cassel is the biggest whipping boy this board has ever seen.
Please, Pioli, rush out and get a guy with similar production....Do it Yesterday!!

Colt McCoy was playing a far worse situation, and was only in his second year.

There's no comparison.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 10:12 AM
Cassell, McCoy, Quinn... not sure what type of trifecta that would be, but looks like three strikes to me.

It would be Cassel, McCoy and Stanzi.

McCoy has proven to be a better player than Brady Quinn already.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 10:13 AM
I'd love to see Cassel throwing to Josh Cribbs, Mohamed Massaquoi and Greg Little.

Sounds like a potent fucking offense.

FD
06-15-2012, 10:13 AM
The Browns offense that lined up last year was one of the worst I have ever seen. Nothing on the O-line, no RB, no WR's at all. Really a pathetic situation all around. It would be interesting to see how McCoy can play with half decent talent around him.

Brock
06-15-2012, 10:14 AM
We already have Quinn, who at least looks like a QB.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 10:15 AM
We already have Quinn, who at least looks like a QB.

McCoy > Quinn

durtyrute
06-15-2012, 10:15 AM
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/gallery/and-not-a-single-fuck-was-given-that-day/and-not-a-single-fuck-was-given-that-day-leo-strut.jpg

royr17
06-15-2012, 10:21 AM
the team that mccoy plays for has no talent almost basically on the offensive side of the ball. coming out of college he was a very accuarate qb but hasnt done anything in the pros. well i can see why, if u dont have talent around you, then ur goin to struggle. i'd love to see what he can do in kc especially with all the talent that we have on the offensive side of the ball and we all know how good our defense is. i feel that mccoy in the right situation could be a deadly qb.

ILChief
06-15-2012, 10:21 AM
No, just no. I can't believe I'm gonna type this but.....

I'd rather have Cassel

SPATCH
06-15-2012, 10:21 AM
We already have Quinn, who at least looks like a QB.

Yeah I would prefer Quinn over McCoy for the simple fact that he can see over an offensive line.

Pass.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 10:23 AM
Yeah I would prefer Quinn over McCoy for the simple fact that he can see over an offensive line.

Pass.

When has Brady Quinn ever put together a season like Colt McCoy did last year?

That is setting the bar pretty low and Quinn can't even come close.

Brock
06-15-2012, 10:24 AM
When has Brady Quinn ever put together a season like Colt McCoy did last year?

That is setting the bar pretty low and Quinn can't even come close.

Completely different situations.

notorious
06-15-2012, 10:30 AM
No, just no. I can't believe I'm gonna type this but.....

I'd rather have Cassel

At least McCoy has a chance to develop into a good QB. Cassel has had plenty of time to show that he is a pile of a shit.

jd1020
06-15-2012, 10:31 AM
At least McCoy has a chance to develop into a good QB. Cassel has had plenty of time to show that he is a pile of a shit.

McCoy has the tools to be a backup. We've already got 3.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 10:32 AM
Let's be honest.

What Colt McCoy did last year is better than 2 of Cassel's 3 seasons in Kansas City.

Think about that.

Messier
06-15-2012, 10:32 AM
McCoy better than Quinn, but going from Cassel to McCoy would be a lateral move.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 10:33 AM
going from Cassel to McCoy would be a lateral move.

Colt McCoy has room to grow. He has only played two years in the NFL.

At minimum, he is as good as Cassel.

Give him the #1 running game, Dwayne Bowe, Tony Moeaki, Steve Breaston and Jon Baldwin and watch him embarrass Matt Cassel.

notorious
06-15-2012, 10:35 AM
McCoy has the tools to be a backup. We've already got 3.

Touche. LMAO

Messier
06-15-2012, 10:35 AM
Let's be honest.

What Colt McCoy did last year is better than 2 of Cassel's 3 seasons in Kansas City.

Think about that.

No it's not. It's on par with Cassels two bad seasons.

BigMeatballDave
06-15-2012, 10:36 AM
LMAO @ Clay shoot his man juice all over McCoy...

Mile High Mania
06-15-2012, 10:37 AM
The Brownsification of the Chiefs continues?

Messier
06-15-2012, 10:37 AM
Colt McCoy has room to grow. He has only played two years in the NFL.

At minimum, he is as good as Cassel.

Give him the #1 running game, Dwayne Bowe, Tony Moeaki, Steve Breaston and Jon Baldwin and watch him embarrass Matt Cassel.

But watch McCoy settle nicely into a backup roll.

Aries Walker
06-15-2012, 10:37 AM
We should get him. He's young, can develop, did really well at UT, and can't be much worse.

He's also already got a (presumably) working relationship with Peyton Hillis.

Mr. Plow
06-15-2012, 10:38 AM
Meh.

jd1020
06-15-2012, 10:38 AM
But watch McCoy settle nicely into a backup roll.

Holding Aaron Rodgers' clipboard.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 10:38 AM
No it's not. It's on par with Cassels two bad seasons.

Better completion percentage and more yards per game. Fewer turnovers.

Cheaper.

The Real McCoy.

okcchief
06-15-2012, 10:39 AM
Let's bring in another QB that isn't a NFL QB. Great idea!

Messier
06-15-2012, 10:41 AM
Better completion percentage and more yards per game. Fewer turnovers.

Cheaper.

The Real McCoy.

Better % in one year not both. McCoy is not coming here, he's not a good starter, he's average. Moving on.

durtyrute
06-15-2012, 10:42 AM
Damn, can we see what we have first. A rookie qb would get murdered in this town after his first game.

Chiefnj2
06-15-2012, 10:42 AM
Minnesota might be a good fit.

Chiefnj2
06-15-2012, 10:44 AM
McCoy and Daboll don't quite get along. He isn't coming to KC.

Cleveland is the anti-KC. KC builds a team around poor QBs. Cleveland marches a new QB in every season and doesn't give the guy any talent to throw to.

Rams Fan
06-15-2012, 10:45 AM
When has Brady Quinn ever put together a season like Colt McCoy did last year?

That is setting the bar pretty low and Quinn can't even come close.

Huh?

It's not like Quinn has exactly gotten a fair shot, either.

Rams Fan
06-15-2012, 10:47 AM
McCoy and Daboll don't quite get along. He isn't coming to KC.


Link?

Daboll was only there for McCoy's rookie season on a team that also started Dehlomme and Seneca Wallace.

Messier
06-15-2012, 10:47 AM
You know, if the Browns thought they could win with McCoy, they wouldn't have drafted Weeden, and he wouldn't be on the trading block.

Detoxing
06-15-2012, 10:47 AM
Let's bring in another QB that isn't a NFL QB. Great idea!

This is the bottom line right here.

Yeah, lets bring in yet another trash QB who will amount to nothing here. BRILLIANT!

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 10:48 AM
Huh?

It's not like Quinn has exactly gotten a fair shot, either.

Brady Quinn has gotten as much of a shot as Colt McCoy, and done worse.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 10:49 AM
You know, if the Browns thought they could win with McCoy, they wouldn't have drafted Weeden, and he wouldn't be on the trading block.

"If the Chargers thought they could win with Drew Brees, they wouldn't have drafted Philip Rivers."

jd1020
06-15-2012, 10:50 AM
"If the Chargers thought they could win with Drew Brees, they wouldn't have drafted Philip Rivers."

Different situations.

Brees got injured. McCoy just sucks.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 10:51 AM
McCoy just sucks.

He sucks less than Quinn and Stanzi.

No reason we shouldn't flip CLE a 6th.

jd1020
06-15-2012, 10:52 AM
He sucks less than Quinn and Stanzi.

No reason we shouldn't flip CLE a 6th.

Why are we flipping anything to replace a backup with a backup?

Messier
06-15-2012, 10:52 AM
"If the Chargers thought they could win with Drew Brees, they wouldn't have drafted Philip Rivers."

They thought Brees might be done. It was a big risk to trade for him, sure paid off. If he hadn't gotten injured, I don't think the Chargers move on, he put together one really good season in SD.

T-post Tom
06-15-2012, 10:52 AM
Who needs McCoy when you've got "Trickshot"?

Chiefnj2
06-15-2012, 10:53 AM
Link?

Daboll was only there for McCoy's rookie season on a team that also started Dehlomme and Seneca Wallace.

http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2011/11/yahoo-article-details-brian-dabolls-rough-rookie-treatment-of-colt-mccoy/

tredadda
06-15-2012, 10:53 AM
I don't want McCoy. Unless we upgrade the STARTING QB position I don't want to bring in another career back up to do just that "back up". From a backup standpoint I am content with Quinn and Stanzi.

mikey23545
06-15-2012, 10:53 AM
He sucks less than Quinn and Stanzi.

No reason we shouldn't flip CLE a 6th.


:spock:

Rams Fan
06-15-2012, 10:54 AM
Brady Quinn has gotten as much of a shot as Colt McCoy, and done worse.

If anything, both Quinn and McCoy have been in identical situations.

In the seasons that Quinn started with Cleveland, the Browns went 9-23.

In the seasons that McCoy has started with Cleveland, the Browns have gone 9-23.

notorious
06-15-2012, 10:55 AM
If anything, both Quinn and McCoy have been in identical situations.

In the seasons that Quinn started with Cleveland, the Browns went 9-23.

In the seasons that McCoy has started with Cleveland, the Browns have gone 9-23.


Hmmmmmm.

Messier
06-15-2012, 10:55 AM
He sucks less than Quinn and Stanzi.

No reason we shouldn't flip CLE a 6th.

I don't know what Stanzi is yet. I'd rather see Stanzi get a shot than sign McCoy.

mikey23545
06-15-2012, 10:55 AM
If we didn't already have Quinn, I could see being interested.

He doesn't seem to be that much of an improvement over Quinn.

Rams Fan
06-15-2012, 10:55 AM
http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2011/11/yahoo-article-details-brian-dabolls-rough-rookie-treatment-of-colt-mccoy/

Gracias.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 10:56 AM
If we didn't already have Quinn, I could see being interested.

He doesn't seem to be that much of an improvement over Quinn.

He's a younger version of Brady Quinn that showed some potential instead of being complete shit.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 10:56 AM
Why are we flipping anything to replace a backup with a backup?

Because Brady Quinn and Ricky Stanzi are 2/3 of the worst QB situation in the NFL.

notorious
06-15-2012, 10:57 AM
It just shows how bad our situation is at QB when castaways and rejects are considered to be a possible upgrade.

And yes, the argument can be made that McCoy might be an upgrade over Cassel.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 10:57 AM
From a backup standpoint I am content with Quinn and Stanzi.

WHY? ROFL

Fucking low ass standards.

Messier
06-15-2012, 10:58 AM
Because Brady Quinn and Ricky Stanzi are 2/3 of the worst QB situation in the NFL.

Off the start Stanzi bandwagon are you?

Rams Fan
06-15-2012, 10:58 AM
Because Brady Quinn and Ricky Stanzi are 2/3 of the worst QB situation in the NFL.

Tebow/McElroy?

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 10:58 AM
Off the start Stanzi bandwagon are you?

I have never been on it.

He needs to show something other than "hey, couple nice passes in preseason."

jd1020
06-15-2012, 10:59 AM
It just shows how bad our situation is at QB when castaways and rejects are considered to be a possible upgrade.

And yes, the argument can be made that McCoy might be an upgrade over Cassel.

McCoy over Cassel is like getting a half cent raise... who cares. It's a waste of time.

notorious
06-15-2012, 10:59 AM
I have never been on it.

He needs to show something other than "hey, couple nice passes in preseason."

He will never get the chance.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 10:59 AM
McCoy over Cassel is like getting a half cent raise... who cares. It's a waste of time.

Colt McCoy has more potential than any QB on our roster.

Rams Fan
06-15-2012, 10:59 AM
What about acquiring Hasselbeck from the Titans?

Yes, I know it doesn't help the Chiefs long term, but short term I would think he would give the Chiefs better production at QB than Cassel.

notorious
06-15-2012, 11:00 AM
McCoy over Cassel is like getting a half cent raise... who cares. It's a waste of time.

Agreed, but it is scary to think about.

jd1020
06-15-2012, 11:00 AM
Colt McCoy has more potential than any QB on our roster.

ROFL

Messier
06-15-2012, 11:00 AM
I have never been on it.

He needs to show something other than "hey, couple nice passes in preseason."

So you supported in ironically.

HemiEd
06-15-2012, 11:00 AM
I think McCoy is probably a career backup, but I would still rather have him than Matt Cassel.

fixed it

notorious
06-15-2012, 11:01 AM
What about acquiring Hasselbeck from the Titans?

Yes, I know it doesn't help the Chiefs long term, but short term I would think he would give the Chiefs better production at QB than Cassel.

No thanks.


We have went the veteran route 11tybillion times.

Rams Fan
06-15-2012, 11:02 AM
No thanks.


We have went the veteran route 11tybillion times.

Colin Fucking Kapernick?

T.J Fucking Yates?

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 11:03 AM
So you supported in ironically.

I never supported it.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 11:04 AM
ROFL

Explain how Ricky Stanzi or Brady Quinn have more potential.

Matt Cassel has reached his ceiling.

jd1020
06-15-2012, 11:07 AM
Explain how Ricky Stanzi or Brady Quinn have more potential.

Matt Cassel has reached his ceiling.

Have you seen Stanzi lead a first team offense yet? You need to explain how you think McCoy who has been less than mediocre has more potential than anything on the Chiefs roster.

BigMeatballDave
06-15-2012, 11:08 AM
McCoy has a weaker arm than Cassel.

Mr. Plow
06-15-2012, 11:08 AM
God this franchise has done horrible things to all of us.

Dicky McElephant
06-15-2012, 11:09 AM
Brady Quinn has gotten as much of a shot as Colt McCoy, and done worse.

:spock:

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 11:14 AM
:spock:

Brady Quinn has been in the league a lot longer than Quinn. If he got hurt, that's on him.

saphojunkie
06-15-2012, 11:19 AM
Colt McCoy has more potential than any QB on our roster.

No he doesn't. That's just silly. What are you, a UT homer?

The truth is, our answer at QB most likely isn't on our roster at the moment. And if he's not, then he isn't in the league right now.

It's Stanzi, Quinn, or our first round draft pick next year.

Colt McCoy? Are you kidding me here?

Chiefnj2
06-15-2012, 11:26 AM
Even with a horrible and a much less talented group of receivers McCoy kicks Cassel's ass in passes over 20 yards.

BossChief
06-15-2012, 11:26 AM
Hahaha

Clay is one hell of a troll when he wants to be.

bevischief
06-15-2012, 11:28 AM
God this franchise has done horrible things to all of us.

You got that right.

Predarat
06-15-2012, 11:32 AM
Colt > casshole x10000000000000000

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 11:33 AM
Hahaha

Clay is one hell of a troll when he wants to be.

I am not trolling.

Explain how Colt McCoy is not a better backup QB than what we currently have.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 11:34 AM
No he doesn't. That's just silly. What are you, a UT homer?
e?

He does.

Brady Quinn sucks. Ricky Stanzi is a complete question mark.

Colt McCoy has shown some NFL ability, and most importantly, a year to year improvement.

ILChief
06-15-2012, 11:36 AM
He does.

Brady Quinn sucks. Ricky Stanzi is a complete question mark.

Colt McCoy has shown some NFL ability, and most importantly, a year to year improvement.

Year to year improvement? He regressed horribly

BoneKrusher
06-15-2012, 11:37 AM
At least McCoy has a chance to develop into a good QB. Cassel has had plenty of time to show that he is a pile of a shit.

yep.
every john, dick and harry on the street knows it, cant figure out why Pissoli dont know it.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 11:38 AM
Year to year improvement? He regressed horribly

Colt McCoy improved from year one to year two. No question.

Played more games, threw for more yards per game, more TDs per game, vastly improved his TD-INT ratio.

Sure, his YPA dipped. Shit happens when you have no receivers.

ILChief
06-15-2012, 11:39 AM
Doesn't matter. Daboll hates McCoy and vice versa. He isn't coming here

BossChief
06-15-2012, 11:39 AM
I am not trolling.

Explain how Colt McCoy is not a better backup QB than what we currently have.

Stop reading box scores thinking they tell all and you would already have your answer.

HemiEd
06-15-2012, 11:39 AM
McCoy has a weaker arm than Cassel.

Is that even possible?

bevischief
06-15-2012, 11:41 AM
He will end up with the Saints.

ILChief
06-15-2012, 11:41 AM
Is that even possible?

Tyler Palko says it is

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 11:42 AM
Stop reading box scores thinking they tell all and you would already have your answer.

So where is the proof that Quinn/Stanzi are better than McCoy?

Don't give me "more talented" BS.

Ryan Leaf was talented, but sucked.

Mr. Plow
06-15-2012, 11:43 AM
lol. It's 1 person against everyone else as to whether McCoy would be a good addition to the team.

Which is exactly what he does, each and every time.....takes the opposing position on everything just to troll.

BossChief
06-15-2012, 11:43 AM
Doesn't matter. Daboll hates McCoy and vice versa. He isn't coming here

You are confusing a coach being demanding with "hatred".

HemiEd
06-15-2012, 11:44 AM
Tyler Palko says it is

Oh crap, I had already blocked that train wreck out of my mind, thanks for bringing him back up.

BoneKrusher
06-15-2012, 11:44 AM
McCoy has a weaker arm than Cassel.

i'd have to see it, to believe it.

ILChief
06-15-2012, 11:45 AM
Stop reading box scores thinking they tell all and you would already have your answer.

If apple made a 17" inch MacBook Pro he could read them better

BossChief
06-15-2012, 11:48 AM
So where is the proof that Quinn/Stanzi are better than McCoy?

Don't give me "more talented" BS.

Ryan Leaf was talented, but sucked.

5'11"
Pop gun
Voice of an 11 year old
Gets intimidated
Hasn't shown any improvement (he regressed)

Should I continue?

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 11:48 AM
lol. It's 1 person against everyone else as to whether McCoy would be a good addition to the team.

Which is exactly what he does, each and every time.....takes the opposing position on everything just to troll.

I have yet to read one post that explains how Colt McCoy would not upgrade our QB situation.

jd1020
06-15-2012, 11:49 AM
lol. It's 1 person against everyone else as to whether McCoy would be a good addition to the team.

Which is exactly what he does, each and every time.....takes the opposing position on everything just to troll.

Its not his fault his mother drove off with him on top of the car when he was 5 weeks old.

Reerun_KC
06-15-2012, 11:49 AM
Trolls should be banned...

BoneKrusher
06-15-2012, 11:51 AM
5'11"
Pop gun
Voice of an 11 year old
Gets intimidated
Hasn't shown any improvement (he regressed)

Should I continue?

no, hold it right there,
it's starting to sound like Cassel.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 11:52 AM
5'11"
Pop gun
Voice of an 11 year old
Gets intimidated
Hasn't shown any improvement (he regressed)

Should I continue?

1. He measured at the combine as 6-foot-1.

2. He improved, obviously, from year one to year two, as I have already explained. More yards per game, more TDs per game, fewer INT = obvious improvement.

3. He did this in a bad situation.

You are being obtuse.

As far as his arm, it's good enough for him to do this, which impresses me more than just about any Matt Cassel throw ever. That is a 35-yard throw off his back foot, placed perfectly.

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Vcy6rydMkIk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

SNR
06-15-2012, 11:56 AM
If we made the trade, I hope Colt is alright playing behind Stanzi.

BoneKrusher
06-15-2012, 11:56 AM
As far as his arm, it's good enough for him to do this, which impresses me more than just about any Matt Cassel throw ever. That is a 35-yard throw off his back foot, placed perfectly.



i agree on this part.

bevischief
06-15-2012, 11:57 AM
Could we swap them Cassel as part of the deal?

Brock
06-15-2012, 11:58 AM
As far as his arm, it's good enough for him to do this, which impresses me more than just about any Matt Cassel throw ever. That is a 35-yard throw off his back foot, placed perfectly.
>

There is absolutely nothing remarkable about that throw.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 11:59 AM
There is absolutely nothing remarkable about that throw.

It's a 35-yard throw off his back foot placed perfectly over two defenders. Hits the receiver in stride.

It's pretty fucking impressive. Cassel can't do it.

jd1020
06-15-2012, 12:00 PM
There is absolutely nothing remarkable about that throw.

Cassel didn't throw it, so therefor its the greatest feat of football QBing.

BoneKrusher
06-15-2012, 12:00 PM
There is absolutely nothing remarkable about that throw.

except it's ten times more accurate than most Matt Cassel throws plus it didnt hit the upright.

Brock
06-15-2012, 12:00 PM
It's a 35-yard throw off his back foot placed perfectly over two defenders. Hits the receiver in stride.

It's pretty fucking impressive. Cassel can't do it.

ROFL at what you're impressed by.

Brock
06-15-2012, 12:01 PM
except it's ten times more accurate than most Matt Cassel throws.

It's also ten times more accurate than most Colt McCoy throws. So fucking what?

BoneKrusher
06-15-2012, 12:03 PM
It's also ten times more accurate than most Colt McCoy throws. So ****ing what?

forgive me, i know not what i speaketh,

Cassel is Holy.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 12:03 PM
It's also ten times more accurate than most Colt McCoy throws. So fucking what?

Colt McCoy is an accurate passer.

That's why he got drafted.

Certainly he didn't get drafted because he has a prototype NFL body or big arm.

jd1020
06-15-2012, 12:03 PM
Cassel just prefers to throw a laser over 1 defender and thread the needle between 2 others.

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Brock
06-15-2012, 12:04 PM
forgive me, i know not what i speaketh,

Cassel is Holy.

Yeah, that's what I said, idiot.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 12:05 PM
Cassel just prefers to throw a laser over 1 defender and thread the needle between 2 others.

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You're defending Matt Cassel, really? ROFL

We all know he can't do that consistently.

jd1020
06-15-2012, 12:06 PM
You're defending Matt Cassel, really? ROFL

We all know he can't do that consistently.

Not defending anything. Just doing the same thing you are... Cherry picking 1 decent throw a shit QB made and claiming excellency.

Brock
06-15-2012, 12:06 PM
You're defending Matt Cassel, really? ROFL

We all know he can't do that consistently.

You can cherry pick throws, but he can't?

bevischief
06-15-2012, 12:07 PM
You're defending Matt Cassel, really? ROFL

We all know he can't do that consistently.

His wife and Pee-Holy.

BoneKrusher
06-15-2012, 12:08 PM
Yeah, that's what I said, idiot.
Yeah, Cassels the best. ROFL

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 12:09 PM
You can cherry pick throws, but he can't?

The difference between Colt McCoy and Matt Cassel (and Brady Quinn) is that Colt McCoy showed an ability to do that by his 2nd year.

He could very well mature into a good QB.

There is basically no reason to have Brady Quinn on our roster if Colt McCoy is available.

Brock
06-15-2012, 12:12 PM
The difference between Colt McCoy and Matt Cassel (and Brady Quinn) is that Colt McCoy showed an ability to do that by his 2nd year.

He could very well mature into a good QB.

There is basically no reason to have Brady Quinn on our roster if Colt McCoy is available.

This is one of your most tiresome aspects, the constant pimping of shitty players.

Brock
06-15-2012, 12:12 PM
Yeah, Cassels the best. ROFL

:drool:

saphojunkie
06-15-2012, 12:16 PM
The difference between Colt McCoy and Matt Cassel (and Brady Quinn) is that Colt McCoy showed an ability to do that by his 2nd year.

He could very well mature into a good QB.

There is basically no reason to have Brady Quinn on our roster if Colt McCoy is available.

This is just getting laughable. One failed Browns QB is better than another? How about this...

Colt McCoy has seven more games under his belt than Quinn. He actually has a LARGER sample size for his turdness.

If anything, Quinn is the one that has more "potential." He has more physical tools and has had less chance to show them.

Again, all of this is moot. We won't know shit until Cassel gets injured. It's the only way Stanzi or Quinn will play, and until we see one of them fail or succeed, all hope is on drafting a QB next year in the first round.

Dicky McElephant
06-15-2012, 12:19 PM
Colt McCoy from year to year....

ROFL

That improvement is staggering.

Mr. Plow
06-15-2012, 12:19 PM
I have yet to read one post that explains how Colt McCoy would not upgrade our QB situation.

I have yet to read one post that explains how Colt McCoy would be an upgrade over anything already on the roster.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 12:20 PM
Colt McCoy from year to year....

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n189/pestilenceaf23/mccoy.gif

ROFL

That improvement is staggering.

For first year to second year improvement, in a very bad situation, it's perfectly acceptable.

And it's more than Brady Quinn has EVER showed.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 12:21 PM
If anything, Quinn is the one that has more "potential." He has more physical tools and has had less chance to show them.


No, he's been in the league a lot longer, and shown less.

Colt McCoy shits on Brady Quinn in every conceivable way. Brady Quinn doesn't even belong in the NFL.

Mr. Plow
06-15-2012, 12:21 PM
For first year to second year improvement, in a very bad situation, it's perfectly acceptable.

And it's more than Brady Quinn has EVER showed.


I'm sold. He's better than Brady Quinn so we MUST get him on the roster. Not today, yesterday.

Dicky McElephant
06-15-2012, 12:21 PM
So wait......McCoy had a bad situation....but Quinn didn't?

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 12:21 PM
I have yet to read one post that explains how Colt McCoy would be an upgrade over anything already on the roster.

For one thing, he had a season where he threw 13 TD passes and averaged 210 YPG.

The other two guys haven't done that. Or anything close.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 12:22 PM
So wait......McCoy had a bad situation....but Quinn didn't?

They were both in bad situations.

One guy showed some ability.

The other guy didn't.

tk13
06-15-2012, 12:22 PM
I was never that high on McCoy, but I guess he had a label for being soft. I'm not sure he's more talented than what we have now. Plus Quinn and Stanzi were true pro-system QBs in college... McCoy wasn't, so that's probably part of it too. Especially when you're talking about giving up a draft pick for the guy.
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Dicky McElephant
06-15-2012, 12:22 PM
Comparing McCoy to Stanzi is beyond retarded.

Dicky McElephant
06-15-2012, 12:23 PM
They were both in bad situations.

One guy showed some ability.

The other guy didn't.

Quinn never had the opportunity.....did you watch any Browns games? Mangini would pull him the first time he made a mistake.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 12:23 PM
Comparing McCoy to Stanzi is beyond retarded.

I agree.

Most 5th round picks don't result in much.

There's a distinct possibility Ricky Stanzi never does anything in the NFL.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 12:24 PM
Quinn never had the opportunity.....did you watch any Browns games? Mangini would pull him the first time he made a mistake.

He started 12 games and showed 0 improvement.

Dicky McElephant
06-15-2012, 12:24 PM
I agree.

Most 5th round picks don't result in much.

There's a distinct possibility Ricky Stanzi never does anything in the NFL.

3rd round QBs do?


And don't even post anything about Joe Montana.......

Okie_Apparition
06-15-2012, 12:27 PM
I didn't bother with 2011
2010 - 13games - 14TDs - 11INTs - 11fumbles
on the bright side only 2 fumbles lost!

Chiefnj2
06-15-2012, 12:27 PM
Comparing McCoy to Stanzi is beyond retarded.

Why?

Dicky McElephant
06-15-2012, 12:28 PM
He started 12 games and showed 0 improvement.

McCoy had more of an opportunity to improve than Quinn did.

Dicky McElephant
06-15-2012, 12:28 PM
Why?

Stanzi has gotten what opportunity to show what he can do?

KC Tattoo
06-15-2012, 12:28 PM
We don't need another teams trash, that's why we suck with Cassel. Here is an idea, play a player we drafted like um Ricky Stanzi see what he has to offer, also then draft a QB in the first round next year.

BigMeatballDave
06-15-2012, 12:30 PM
I wish we had Devard Darling to go along with him...

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 12:30 PM
3rd round QBs do?


He already surpassed most 3rd round QBs.

In just two years! In the worst situation possible, just about!

He definitely deserves a chance to keep improving.

Chief Roundup
06-15-2012, 12:33 PM
all hope is on drafting a QB next year in the first round.

Yeah sure we will. When we are likely to need a LT or DE. We will be drafting way down the draft board. Pioli has stated he will not give up multiple picks to move up for one player. So at best we would be drafting the 3rd or 4th best QB.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 12:34 PM
We don't need another teams trash

We already have Brady Quinn and Matt Cassel.

We are the fucking dumpster divers of NFL franchises.

Might as well get some garbage that doesn't stink quite as much.

Chief Roundup
06-15-2012, 12:39 PM
3rd round QBs do?


And don't even post anything about Joe Montana.......

McCoy would of been a first rounder had he not had a shoulder injury.

Chiefnj2
06-15-2012, 12:41 PM
Stanzi has gotten what opportunity to show what he can do?

Not much, but he was in a similar situation as McCoy. Both started off as 3rd string QB's. McCoy wasn't expected to see the field his first year but he got thrown into the fire his rookie season. Stanzi was in a similar situation where the #1 and #2 went down, yet the team didn't trust him to hand him the starters role.

Odd for you to argue that McCoy got more of a shot than Quinn did when Quinn was a first round draft pick, has been in the NFL longer, and has had a shot with different teams.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 12:42 PM
Stanzi is a 5th round QB, not 3rd round.

If he doesn't beat out Brady Quinn this year, he will likely never do anything in this league.

Chief Roundup
06-15-2012, 12:43 PM
I wish we had Devard Darling to go along with him...

We don't want that dude back. lol

BigMeatballDave
06-15-2012, 12:44 PM
McCoy had the luxury of mini camp his rookie season.

Dicky McElephant
06-15-2012, 12:46 PM
Not much, but he was in a similar situation as McCoy. Both started off as 3rd string QB's. McCoy wasn't expected to see the field his first year but he got thrown into the fire his rookie season. Stanzi was in a similar situation where the #1 and #2 went down, yet the team didn't trust him to hand him the starters role.

Odd for you to argue that McCoy got more of a shot than Quinn did when Quinn was a first round draft pick, has been in the NFL longer, and has had a shot with different teams.

What shot exactly? The dude was stuck with Mangini as a coach, who couldn't make up his fucking mind from day to day who the starting QB was going to be, and he's been bit by the injury bug.

And he wasn't beating out Tebow in Denver. Tebow was the savior.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 12:46 PM
McCoy had the luxury of mini camp his rookie season.

Stanzi really isn't important in this equation.

It's obvious to anyone McCoy > Quinn.

DaWolf
06-15-2012, 12:47 PM
Yeah, cause we need another Browns reject on this roster...

BoneKrusher
06-15-2012, 12:47 PM
When Cassel went down last year Stanzi should have gotten experience instead of Failo playing the games he started, then we might have an idea today of what Stanzi is capable of.

play him, he cant be worse than Cassel.

Mr. Plow
06-15-2012, 12:48 PM
Can we move this to the Fail thread?

Messier
06-15-2012, 12:51 PM
We already have Brady Quinn and Matt Cassel.

We are the ****ing dumpster divers of NFL franchises.

Might as well get some garbage that doesn't stink quite as much.

So we sign McCoy. How long do we give him before everyone starts calling for his head? A year? Two? I'd rather not start the Cassel II project and have to wait for the team to give up on him in three years.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 12:52 PM
So we sign McCoy. How long do we give him before everyone starts calling for his head? A year? Two? I'd rather not start the Cassel II project and have to wait for the team to give up on him in three years.

I'd bring McCoy here strictly to compete with Stanzi for the #2 job. Best man wins.

When Cassel fails this year, ideally he'd give way to the #2, who would then have a short-term audition to show what they have. If they show quite a bit, maybe you have your QB.

If not, 2013 NFL draft, the Chiefs make a play for a first round QB.

He'd compete during his rookie season with Stanzi or McCoy.

Chiefnj2
06-15-2012, 12:54 PM
What shot exactly? The dude was stuck with Mangini as a coach, who couldn't make up his ****ing mind from day to day who the starting QB was going to be, and he's been bit by the injury bug.

And he wasn't beating out Tebow in Denver. Tebow was the savior.

The Browns drafted him in the first so he could be their QBOTF. He never stepped up.

Elway wanted nothing to do with Tebow. Elway would have loved it if Quinn came in and kicked ass. He didn't. He hasn't.

Rams Fan
06-15-2012, 12:55 PM
They were both in bad situations.

One guy showed some ability.

The other guy didn't.

Two can play at this game:

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx111/simon123_photo/quinn.jpg

BossChief
06-15-2012, 12:56 PM
I'd also like to say that the Browns receivers aren't as bad as most think.

They are at least equal to what we had in 2010...probably a hair better.

Little would be damn good if paired with the right qb and MM and Robinski both belong in the league...Cribbs is a multithreat that can make big plays running the ball or as a slot guy.

I also forgot to mention that Colt fumbles every other time he gets hit and almost never throws when he is about to get hit.

I agree that I'd rather have him over Quinn, but it's not by much.

Rams Fan
06-15-2012, 12:57 PM
Odd for you to argue that McCoy got more of a shot than Quinn did when Quinn was a first round draft pick, has been in the NFL longer, and has had a shot with different teams.

Quinn didn't have a shot with Denver. The fans kind of forced Fox to start Tebow.

KC Tattoo
06-15-2012, 12:57 PM
Stanzi is a 5th round QB, not 3rd round.

If he doesn't beat out Brady Quinn this year, he will likely never do anything in this league.

So the fuck what? Trent Green was an 8th round pick. We get other teams trash & most of them wearn't first rounders to begin with. We suck at ever drafting a first round pick so go with Stanzi we have nothing to lose by playing him. We have everything to gain if he plays. We need to do our own home grown QB & pop there cherry as vergin QBs in the NFL.

BossChief
06-15-2012, 01:00 PM
Quinn didn't have a shot with Denver. The fans kind of forced Fox to start Tebow.

I honestly don't buy that.

Quinn is Tebow without the "magic" aka "luck". I'm sure that showed in practice.

I think Tebow beat him out.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 01:01 PM
I'd also like to say that the Browns receivers aren't as bad as most think.
.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

The Browns receivers are complete fucking shit.

PFF rankings for 2011:

Greg Little - 114th overall, 2nd in the league in drops.
Josh Cribbs - 30th overall
Mohammad Massaquoi - 106th overall

COME ON MAN.

Chiefnj2
06-15-2012, 01:02 PM
Quinn didn't have a shot with Denver. The fans kind of forced Fox to start Tebow.

I'm sure his 7.6 (seven point six) QB rating in his final Denver audition had nothing to do with the franchise's opinion of him.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 01:02 PM
Two can play at this game:

http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx111/simon123_photo/quinn.jpg

Very good image.

Clearly shows how shitty Quinn is.

Thank you for agreeing with me.

BigMeatballDave
06-15-2012, 01:04 PM
I'm really glad training camp opens next month...

whoman69
06-15-2012, 01:05 PM
Quinn didn't have a shot with Denver. The fans kind of forced Fox to start Tebow.

Did the fans also force Eric Studsville to start Tebow?

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 01:05 PM
RE: Brady Quinn.

Just remember that Nick Jacobs said Stanzi was leading the QB battle.

Brady is likely gonna be our third QB. LMAO

Epic fail of a player.

BoneKrusher
06-15-2012, 01:07 PM
RE: Brady Quinn.

Just remember that Nick Jacobs said Stanzi was leading the QB battle.

Brady is likely gonna be our third QB. LMAO

Epic fail of a player.

or maybe it shows how good Stanzi is.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 01:09 PM
or maybe it shows how good Stanzi is.

Third quarterbacks, by definition, are the dregs of the NFL.

Brady Quinn is ending up right where I thought he'd be.

He's a heap of dung, and anyone on this board who thought he was a good signing is a retard.

DeezNutz
06-15-2012, 01:11 PM
Anytime you can add another gutless pussy to your roster, you simply have to make that move.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 01:12 PM
Anytime you can add another gutless pussy to your roster, you simply have to make that move.

Gutless?

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/7bokbhwcFIQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Brock
06-15-2012, 01:14 PM
Gutless?>

Again, another routine play shown as if it exemplifies anything noteworthy.

DeezNutz
06-15-2012, 01:15 PM
Gutless?

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/7bokbhwcFIQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Show the rest of the clip. The bit where his dad rushes the field and dabs his son's ass with powder.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 01:15 PM
He could have slid short of the goal line if he was gutless.

Chiefnj2
06-15-2012, 01:17 PM
Again, another routine play shown as if it exemplifies anything noteworthy.

Going back into the game after this hit?

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/VASrGGsC234" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

BigMeatballDave
06-15-2012, 01:17 PM
Show the rest of the clip. The bit where his dad rushes the field and dabs his son's ass with powder.

LMAO

BossChief
06-15-2012, 01:18 PM
Haha

Anyone that thinks Colt isnt a gutless pussy hasn't watched any browns games.

He is worse than Cassel in that respect.

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-15-2012, 01:20 PM
Pining for Colt McCoy. You have got to be fucking kidding me.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 01:21 PM
Pining for Colt McCoy. You have got to be fucking kidding me.

BRADY QUINN IS ON OUR ROSTER

I AM PINING FOR ANYONE WITH A COMPLETION PERCENTAGE ABOVE 55

Chiefnj2
06-15-2012, 01:21 PM
Haha

Anyone that thinks Colt isnt a gutless pussy hasn't watched any browns games.

He is worse than Cassel in that respect.

Says the guy who thinks the Browns have good receivers.

Messier
06-15-2012, 01:22 PM
BRADY QUINN IS ON OUR ROSTER

I AM PINING FOR ANYONE WITH A COMPLETION PERCENTAGE ABOVE 55

So Cassel then?

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-15-2012, 01:22 PM
Turd Sandwich, no Giant Douche

BossChief
06-15-2012, 01:24 PM
Says the guy who thinks the Browns have good receivers.

Little is a good receiver. The rest of them belong in the league, but aren't anything special.

I didn't say they have good receivers, I said they about the same as ours from 2010.

LOCOChief
06-15-2012, 01:25 PM
colt mccoy? funny stuff.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 01:27 PM
Little is a good receiver.

He almost led the league in drops.

Chiefnj2
06-15-2012, 01:27 PM
Little is a good receiver. The rest of them belong in the league, but aren't anything special.

I didn't say they have good receivers, I said they about the same as ours from 2010.

Who do they have that is similar to Bowe?

SNR
06-15-2012, 01:28 PM
GoChiefs:

Wouldn't you agree that Colt probably needs more than just weapons on offense? He probably needs some good coaches too, I would say. He still looks like he thinks he's playing in the NCAA half the time.

And I know what you think of Brian Daboll and Romeo Crennel

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 01:29 PM
Who do they have that is similar to Bowe?

No one, and no one as good as Moeaki was.

Throw in the 28th ranked rushing attack!

Chiefnj2
06-15-2012, 01:38 PM
GoChiefs:

Wouldn't you agree that Colt probably needs more than just weapons on offense? He probably needs some good coaches too, I would say. He still looks like he thinks he's playing in the NCAA half the time.

And I know what you think of Brian Daboll and Romeo Crennel

McCoy wouldn't be a good fit for KC. But, GoChiefs is correct that McCoy did more with less on the Browns than Quinn did.

Von Dumbass
06-15-2012, 01:57 PM
Browns fans hate Colt McCoy's guts. They sound exactly like CP does when they talk about Cassel.

ILChief
06-15-2012, 02:04 PM
Why is this even a discussion? Read this and tell me there is any chance McCoy ends up in KC:

http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2011/12/02/good-relationship-between-miami-dolphins-oc-brian-daboll-and-qb-matt-moore-leading-to-success-on-offense/

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 02:08 PM
Browns fans hate Colt McCoy's guts. They sound exactly like CP does when they talk about Cassel.

link?

Von Dumbass
06-15-2012, 02:17 PM
link?

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/aZ5pTZOHlcw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

King_Chief_Fan
06-15-2012, 02:32 PM
McCoy wouldn't be a good fit for KC. But, GoChiefs is correct that McCoy did more with less on the Browns than Quinn did.

which isn't really any endorsement. different degrees of suck in my opinion

GoChiefs has a way for being over board with a player or coach only to turn the tables a little later down the road. All of this will soon pass.

Detoxing
06-15-2012, 02:39 PM
U can't believe people are actually arguing in favor of Colt McCoy.

WTF is wrong with you people?

ROFL ROFL ROFL

Setsuna
06-15-2012, 02:41 PM
I hope he comes to Jacksonville.

Detoxing
06-15-2012, 02:42 PM
Gutless?

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/7bokbhwcFIQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This actually proves how gutless he is, dancing around in the pocket within seconds of his drop back.

Guru
06-15-2012, 02:42 PM
The Brownsification of the Chiefs continues?

Hey, thats my line.

KC Tattoo
06-15-2012, 02:42 PM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/aZ5pTZOHlcw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Tell us how you really feel Mr. Browns fan.

Chocolate Hog
06-15-2012, 02:43 PM
Mccoy sucks

Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk 2

BoneKrusher
06-15-2012, 02:44 PM
ROFL ROFL ROFL

we have a Bug..
it's the "OMG We REALLY Have To Deal With Castle another Season" and the season is fast approaching.

thabear04
06-15-2012, 02:47 PM
Pass on Colt Mccoy if we take a look at him hell might as well get Colt Brennan too. He was good in College but becoming a pro its a way of a long shot.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 02:49 PM
This actually proves how gutless he is, dancing around in the pocket within seconds of his drop back.

Garbage. He dropped back, looked at two different receivers and then decided he needed to get the fuck out of dodge.

Great play.

BigChiefTablet
06-15-2012, 02:52 PM
We should just get five mediocre quarterbacks instead of one good one.

thabear04
06-15-2012, 02:53 PM
I say Mccoy goes to the Bucs cause they really dont have back up for Freemen.

Detoxing
06-15-2012, 02:54 PM
Garbage. He dropped back, looked at two different receivers and then decided he needed to get the **** out of dodge.

Great play.

ROFL....

As if you know who he's looking at from a blurry youtube video.....WTF HAHAHA

Matt Cassel has plenty of scrambles just like that.

"Look at that Pro Matt Cassel making a ballsy play. He looked off Dwayne Bowe, Baldwin wasn't open either, so he took off and did it himself like the great leader he is"

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 02:55 PM
I can see him looking at one side of the field, and then looking at the other side of the field, moving his head.

He looked to pass first, he didn't just shit his pants because of a little pressure.

Detoxing
06-15-2012, 02:58 PM
I can see him looking at one side of the field, and then looking at the other side of the field, moving his head.

He looked to pass first, he didn't just shit his pants because of a little pressure.

Uh...shit his pants...that's exactly wtf he did.

Hey check this out though.


Matt Cassel @ :48, the soulja that he is, stands back, tall in the pocket and delivers a strike down the sideline.

That's a damn good QB right there. Hell, it was better than the Colt McCoy play.


<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/LaVzTG3fOwI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Guru
06-15-2012, 03:03 PM
Uh...shit his pants...that's exactly wtf he did.

Hey check this out though.


Matt Cassel @ :48, the soulja that he is, stands back, tall in the pocket and delivers a strike down the sideline.

That's a damn good QB right there. Hell, it was better than the Colt McCoy play.


<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/LaVzTG3fOwI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
If only he could do that every time he drops back rather than once in a blue moon.

keg in kc
06-15-2012, 03:04 PM
No.

Just...no.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 03:05 PM
No one is suggesting we bring in McCoy to be our starter, idiot.

It's pretty clear he's better than Brady Quinn, though.

Detoxing
06-15-2012, 03:09 PM
No one is suggesting we bring in McCoy to be our starter, idiot.

It's pretty clear he's better than Brady Quinn, though.

No actually, it's not clear.

And honestly, who gives a shit about a 3rd string QB.

If your entire argument it based off of who should be our 3rd string QB....that's kind of a stupid thing to argue about. Especially considering Colt would cost us draft picks, and MIGHT be marginally better than Brady Quinn.

Just to be clear....you want to give up draft picks for a 3rd string QB....

Ok....all i needed to know about your Football IQ right there....

Valiant
06-15-2012, 03:10 PM
If we can trade them cassel I am for it.

He still has an up side.

SNR
06-15-2012, 03:26 PM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/aZ5pTZOHlcw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>Boo fucking hoo. This guy's team rolled the dice on a franchise QB TWICE in the past ten years. Since they became a new team in 1999, they've rolled the dice THREE goddamn times in the first round on a QB.

I kind of want to fuck this guy's wife and yell, "YOU HAD A CHANCE TO HAVE SEX WITH HER AT THAT TIME BUT YOU DIDN'T!"

SNR
06-15-2012, 03:35 PM
If only he could do that every time he drops back rather than once in a blue moon.He does. The key there is he's facing our shitty 2008 defense with two rookie CBs in Game 1 of the regular season.

Not quite the Baltimore Ravens in the playoffs.

bevischief
06-15-2012, 03:38 PM
If we can trade them cassel I am for it.

He still has an up side.

I said this around lunch time as well...

Bump
06-15-2012, 03:47 PM
have not watched many browns games, have no idea what how he plays, was it all his fault? did he look terrible? could he actually be worse or better than Cassel or even the same? I don't know. I remember he was good at Texas for 4 years, but that's about it.

saphojunkie
06-15-2012, 03:48 PM
No one is suggesting we bring in McCoy to be our starter, idiot.

It's pretty clear he's better than Brady Quinn, though.

It's not clear at all. WTF is your deal with McCoy? Next thing you know someone is going to be out here talking about how Seneca Wallace is the answer.

Jeez, dude. Raise your standards.

bevischief
06-15-2012, 03:50 PM
This is just his latest man crush that's is all.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 03:57 PM
This isn't a man crush. Chances are Colt McCoy is a career backup.

HE COULD BE OUR CAREER BACKUP INSTEAD OF THAT POS BRADY QUINN

ChiefsCountry
06-15-2012, 04:10 PM
Clay hating on Brady Quinn is awesome to see. Just need CoMo and RoyIII on that bandwagon and Quinn will be a Hall of Famer.

DJ's left nut
06-15-2012, 04:50 PM
Eh.

I'd rather have him than Quinn - that's about all I can say about him. If given my choice between him and Cassel, I'd probably rather have McCoy just so I don't have to deal with that fucking Opie face of Cassel's anymore.

I don't anticipate that he'd actually be much better than Cassel (probably about the same), but I just wouldn't have to throw up in my mouth every time I see that duck-tossing jackass on my television screen. There's something to be said for 'fresh' mediocrity over the same sad-ass pile of mediocrity we've had for the last 3 seasons.

I'd give a conditional 6th for him, cut Quinn and hope Stanzi can win the job outright.

HemiEd
06-15-2012, 04:51 PM
Going back into the game after this hit?

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/VASrGGsC234" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

So he is a very tough guy when he doesn't know who he is.

Okie_Apparition
06-15-2012, 05:44 PM
Bills have one spot for Vince Young or Tyler Thigpen
Posted by Josh Alper on June 15, 2012, 4:59 PM EDT

Vince Young thinks he still has what it takes to be a starter in this league, but heíll spend the summer proving he can be a backup.

Brad Smith revealed earlier this week that he has been working almost exclusively at quarterback this offseason, raising questions about exactly how the Bills were planning to deploy him this season. Bills coach Chan Gailey said that the team will use Brad Smith as their third quarterback this season in addition to whatever other roles they cook up for him on offense and special teams.

ďHeíll go into the season, unless something major changes which I donít foresee, heíll be the third quarterback so heís got to have enough quarterback knowledge to get you out of a game,Ē Gailey said, via Chris Brown of the Billsí website.

That means that Young and Tyler Thigpen arenít just fighting for the job backing up Ryan Fitzpatrick, but that they are fighting for a roster spot. Since recovering from an abdominal straing, Thigpen has been taking most of the snaps with the second team this spring. The battle should last well into the summer, though, and Young should get more chances to make his argument for the job.

bevischief
06-15-2012, 05:46 PM
He is going to the Saints.

Shogun
06-15-2012, 05:46 PM
I say we get Thiggy again and win a superbowl.

Okie_Apparition
06-15-2012, 05:50 PM
Daniels broke his thumb

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-15-2012, 05:53 PM
Pass the Kool Aid

BossChief
06-15-2012, 05:53 PM
I'd rather have Thigpen or VY than Quinn or McCoy.

That's just me.

Count Alex's Losses
06-15-2012, 06:01 PM
I'd rather have Thigpen or VY than Quinn or McCoy.

That's just me.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-CstUeN9oXT4/T9KuIecScOI/AAAAAAAAH9o/rCPhXmHaVcA/s200/Fullscreen+capture+682012+90028+PM.jpg

Mr. Laz
06-15-2012, 06:02 PM
Hell with that

If cassel and Stanzi can't do it then burn the season to the ground. we don't need McCoy coming in here and Palko-ing a couple of cheap wins at the end of the season and screwing up our draft spot.

force them to make a real move next year

Chief Roundup
06-15-2012, 06:22 PM
I'd rather have Thigpen or VY than Quinn or McCoy.

That's just me.

No thanks don't want Tyler "worthless" Thigpen back again.

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-15-2012, 06:39 PM
Skeletons were just starting to feel safe.

BoneKrusher
06-15-2012, 07:48 PM
I'd rather have Thigpen or VY than Quinn or McCoy.

That's just me.

not sure about Stanzi yet but i'd rather have Thiggy over Cassel and Quinn.

tredadda
06-15-2012, 08:34 PM
WHY? ROFL

****ing low ass standards.

Sorry, but McCoy is no upgrade over those two in any way. To bring him in means we get rid of one of the other two which is a wash since he is garbage. That is why Cleveland blew a first round pick on a 28 yr old QB to replace him.

-King-
06-15-2012, 08:48 PM
Yay! CP pining for another guy that makes Cassel look like Aaron Rodgers! Woot!

BoneKrusher
06-15-2012, 09:00 PM
Yay! CP pining for another guy that makes Cassel look like Aaron Rodgers! Woot!

Thiggy dont have to be very good to be better than Cassel. ROFL

lewdog
06-15-2012, 09:00 PM
Quinn and McCoy could be stars......in the Arena Football league.

-King-
06-15-2012, 09:02 PM
Thiggy dont have to be very good to be better than Cassel. ROFL

Yeah, but he's not so...

BoneKrusher
06-15-2012, 09:03 PM
Yeah, but he's not so...

apples and oranges

-King-
06-15-2012, 09:04 PM
apples and oranges

:spock:

okcchief
06-15-2012, 09:22 PM
Uh, **** Brady Quinn. We need to trade for Colt McCoy yesterday.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d829db453/article/colt-mccoy-reportedly-put-on-trading-block-by-browns?module=HP11_headline_stack

So go chiefs was against Weeden who is shitting all over Colt, but thinks Colt is an upgrade. Ok