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Count Zarth
06-15-2012, 12:24 PM
:hail: :hail: :hail: :hail:

https://gamerewind.nfl.com/nflgr/secure/packages?ttv=1&ttp=3&icampaign=Prod_GR_Nav#featurecoach

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listopencil
06-15-2012, 12:29 PM
Wow, pretty cool.

penguinz
06-15-2012, 12:33 PM
More material for GoChiefs to pirate.

-King-
06-15-2012, 12:36 PM
So for $59.99 you get toWatch full replays of every 2012 Regular Season and Playoff game including Super Bowl XLVII, Coaches Film for every play in 2012, and any 2009-2012 games through the entire Offseason.

Count Zarth
06-15-2012, 12:37 PM
More material for GoChiefs to pirate.

Probably not. This will only be available through flash-based web viewing most likely. Pain in the ass to capture that.

I doubt I will pay for it because analyzing this corrupt franchise isn't worth my time anymore.

ReynardMuldrake
06-15-2012, 12:45 PM
Probably not. This will only be available through flash-based web viewing most likely. Pain in the ass to capture that.

I doubt I will pay for it because analyzing this corrupt franchise isn't worth my time anymore.

Browser flash video is easy to capture. Hobocopy + handbrake.

penguinz
06-15-2012, 12:51 PM
Probably not. This will only be available through flash-based web viewing most likely. Pain in the ass to capture that.

I doubt I will pay for it because analyzing this corrupt franchise isn't worth my time anymore.Very easy if running OS X and have a copy of Snapz Pro. ;)

Dayze
06-15-2012, 03:06 PM
sounds very cool.

Chiefnj2
06-15-2012, 04:03 PM
I'm laughing at the thought of Planet members spending 60 bucks to watch Cassel suck in live time, replay, sky box view and slow-mo. How much abuse can you take. Why not just have Al Davis' corpse kick you in the nuts for an additional $5 a month while you watch.

Ace Gunner
06-15-2012, 04:30 PM
Probably not. This will only be available through flash-based web viewing most likely. Pain in the ass to capture that.

I doubt I will pay for it because analyzing this corrupt franchise isn't worth my time anymore.

ya, so I'll get it to show you what a shitty route runner Dwayne Bowe is :D

Deberg_1990
06-15-2012, 04:44 PM
So for $59.99 you get to

Thats out of GoTurds price range.

Baconeater
06-15-2012, 04:46 PM
I'm laughing at the thought of Planet members spending 60 bucks to watch Cassel suck in live time, replay, sky box view and slow-mo. How much abuse can you take. Why not just have Al Davis' corpse kick you in the nuts for an additional $5 a month while you watch.
You could watch other games. :shrug:

Pasta Giant Meatball
06-15-2012, 04:52 PM
I'm laughing at the thought of Planet members spending 60 bucks to watch thier hero Sanchez suck in live time, replay, sky box view and slow-mo. How much abuse can you take. Why not just have Al Davis' corpse kick you in the nuts for an additional $5 a month while you watch.

FYP

listopencil
06-15-2012, 07:02 PM
Probably not. This will only be available through flash-based web viewing most likely. Pain in the ass to capture that.

I doubt I will pay for it because analyzing this corrupt franchise isn't worth my time anymore.


I don't know, wouldn't the same Firefox FLV YouTube type addons work for this?

listopencil
06-15-2012, 07:02 PM
I am getting really, really tempted to get this.

Guru
06-15-2012, 10:09 PM
You could watch other games. :shrug:

pretty much what I was thinking.

rtmike
06-16-2012, 01:28 AM
I'm laughing at the thought of Planet members spending 60 bucks to watch Cassel suck in live time, replay, sky box view and slow-mo. How much abuse can you take. Why not just have Al Davis' corpse kick you in the nuts for an additional $5 a month while you watch.


Saaweet, where's that option? I looked & looked, couldn't find it. Is there a discount for buying a years worth at once? :hmmm:

Red Beans
06-16-2012, 05:49 AM
I am getting really, really tempted to get this.

Ah yes...

Being able to watch Peyton Manning crumple up like an empty pack of Pall Malls from not just one, but three angles!

prhom
06-16-2012, 06:16 AM
Has anyone signed up for this? Looks intriguing, if for no other reason than getting to relive our 2010 "dream season" while we wait for our 2012 season to start. Also wondering if one can upgrade from the one-team package to the Season-plus package later?

prhom
06-16-2012, 11:50 AM
Welp, just signed up and discovered that the tablet apps are not actually released yet. The support folks said there is no timeline for its release either. Just wanted to pass that along as the website is a little misleading about this, and it may be a big deal to some people.

Ace Gunner
06-16-2012, 11:52 AM
Hmmm, seems like they can't charge for stuff they aren't giving you. Thx for the update.

milkman
06-16-2012, 11:53 AM
Thats out of GoTurds mom's price range.

FYP

Von Dumbass
06-16-2012, 02:44 PM
League already increases price of “All-22″ package

I initially thought I perhaps needed glasses.

After posting on Friday afternoon an item regarding the league’s decision to make the Golden Snitch of football footage available to anyone and everyone as part of a Game Rewind package that would cost only $59.99, the league office advised PFT that the price is actually $69.99.

So I went back and checked the link, I saw that the price was $69.99, and I confirmed that, indeed, the price is $69.99. Chalking it up to the effects of the aging process on the optic nerve, I assumed I had seen the “6″ as a “5″.

As it turns out, I had seen correctly. At some point on Friday afternoon, the league jacked the price up by 10 bucks.

Though some have explained that it merely reflected the expiration of a two-day promotional period, the league office admits (without explanation) that the initial price of $59.99 “was an incorrect listing.”

We could pry from 345 Park Avenue no details regarding how the price came to be listed incorrectly. Was it a typo? An error in communication?

Or was it simply a decision based on the reaction to the news that the price point was too low?

Either way, anyone who climbed on the “All-22″ bus before late afternoon on Friday received a $10 bonus for getting there first.

Unless, of course, the league attempts to extract from you a portrait of the man who was killed by Aaron Burr.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/16/league-alreadyincreases-price-of-all-22-package/

Only 10 bucks more....

jspchief
06-16-2012, 03:37 PM
Years ago I would have loved this. I don't think I have have enough spare time to take advantage of it anymore.

Kudos to the NFL for recognizing the wants of the modern fan though.

Mr. Laz
06-24-2012, 11:11 AM
All-22 replays seem great, but what are we really seeing?

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For football geeks everywhere, the recent announcement (https://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Ap.mW90qCIBSxG7Sj1oZWRVYYsp_;_ylu=X3oDMTFkZWgzYnZwBG1pdANCbG9nIEJvZHkEcG9zAzIEc2VjA01lZGlhQmxvZ 0JvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTM1YW5lZzNxBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDY2Q0NmJjYjUtZWMyOS0zMjZmLThmYWQtMjlkZmJjMD Y0MGIxBHBzdGNhdANuZmx8c2h1dGRvd25jb3JuZXIEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=0/SIG=147181rmh/EXP=1341767308/**https%3A//gamerewind.nfl.com/nflgr/secure/packages%3Fttv=1%26%2338;ttp=3%26%2338;icampaign=Prod_GR_Nav%23featurecoach) that the NFL was going to release coach's tape on every play of every game through its NFL Game Rewind package was a large slice of heaven. As a football fan, you could compare it to mono vs. stereo, or black-and-white vs. color TV. Or, go back and play one of those 8-bit Madden games, and compare it with the more recent iteration. The differences are that drastic. The overhead and end zone angles we will now see on every play (Game Rewind had previously inserted overhead views in about 15-20 plays per game) give us so much more to view and understand.
When you watch coach's tape, or "All-22," (so named, obviously, because you can see all 22 players on the field at all times), you are going to see more play development than you will in most standard camera angles. You will see route combinations in ways you never have, and you will see defenders reacting to them in ways you never imagined.
Here, by way of example, are two views of Eli Manning (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6760;_ylt=AqP50wc.ZBljBai7Pvf8POVYYsp_;_ylu=X3oDMTFkNWJ1MDBuBG1pdANCbG9nIEJvZHkEcG9zAzMEc2VjA01lZGlh QmxvZ0JvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTM1YW5lZzNxBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDY2Q0NmJjYjUtZWMyOS0zMjZmLThmYWQtMjlkZmJjMD Y0MGIxBHBzdGNhdANuZmx8c2h1dGRvd25jb3JuZXIEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=3)'s amazing throw to Mario Manningham (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8872;_ylt=AkQTtb8stgHnFOEYCyWzdJFYYsp_;_ylu=X3oDMTFkMmFzbGIwBG1pdANCbG9nIEJvZHkEcG9zAzQEc2VjA01lZGlh QmxvZ0JvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTM1YW5lZzNxBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDY2Q0NmJjYjUtZWMyOS0zMjZmLThmYWQtMjlkZmJjMD Y0MGIxBHBzdGNhdANuZmx8c2h1dGRvd25jb3JuZXIEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=3) with 3:46 left in Super Bowl XLVI. It was one of the best passing plays in Super Bowl history, and it's even more impressive when you see the entire field. Both views are at the moment when Manning releases the ball. He has already made the decision to throw to the read on the back side of his view, which means he's scanned the easy stuff, and he doesn't like it.
Here's the angle you saw on TV:
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And here's the overhead view:
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This is where two of Manning's primary attributes -- decision-making and ability to take successful risks -- really come into focus. In the standard camera angle, you see that the Giants are blocking their butts off for Manning, and that his hot route is open. With the All-22, we see that his hot route is bracketed, there's an intermediate zone set up to cover and corral any crossing routes or quick patterns to the middle of the field (seemingly a point of focus for the Patriots defense during this game; both inside linebackers fired out into coverage right off the snap), and that Manning is clearly expecting Manningham to outrun his coverage, because the defender has what looks like ideal inside position on the boundary.
We also see that a second Patriots defender is positioned to converge on Manningham, which is exactly what happened. When you see it from this point of view. Manning's throw is even more ridiculously impressive.
So, even if you're not quite sure what you're looking at from a schematic perspective, the overhead view shows you a lot more -- even at stop-action rates. That's the value. The concern from some quarters is that the release of this additional information will allow some pseudo-experts to throw some more weight behind their ill-informed evaluations, claiming that "Well, I watched the All-22, and I think should be fired immediately!"
As Greg Cosell of NFL Films and ESPN's NFL Matchup told me recently, it's not anywhere near that simple. These new perspectives on the game[I] require entirely different level of understanding as much as they provide it.
"One thing that people have to recognize is that, if you really want to watch coaching tape, it's work," Cosell said. "It's not a 10-minute exercise. And it's work that takes an awful lot of time. I can honestly say that it took me three or four years, sitting with quarterbacks and coaches right next to me, to have any real sense of what I was looking at. Beyond just the simple stuff. And it really takes a lot of work to do that.
"I really think that there will be a lot of people who are willing to do that, and then there are a lot of people whose initial response will be, 'Great! Now I can see the coaching tape!' They'll look at it for 15 minutes and say, 'Wow -- [the players are] really small. I have a tough time seeing a lot of these guys. I don't want to do that anymore.' For some, it will be really great. For others, it seems great, and it won't be. Some people will make judgments that they shouldn't, because it really takes time to understand concepts, schemes, and what people are supposed to do within those concepts and schemes."
Former NFL safety Matt Bowen, who does fabulous analysis for the National Football Post (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AkVQzeb.actuh8ci0O2iun9YYsp_;_ylu=X3oDMTFkYTlrYnI4BG1pdANCbG9nIEJvZHkEcG9zAzcEc2VjA01lZGlhQmxvZ 0JvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTM1YW5lZzNxBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDY2Q0NmJjYjUtZWMyOS0zMjZmLThmYWQtMjlkZmJjMD Y0MGIxBHBzdGNhdANuZmx8c2h1dGRvd25jb3JuZXIEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=0/SIG=12glgm03b/EXP=1341767308/**http%3A//www.nationalfootballpost.com/inside-the-playbook.html), said basically the same thing on Twitter -- even when you've got a playbook in front of you, this stuff is hard to read.
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Cosell expressed his own concerns about how All-22 might be used. "I'm not naming names, but a beat writer, for instance -- if he pops on the tape, and the team he covers gives up a touchdown, and he sees the receiver relatively wide open, he's going to write that they blew the coverage. Well, I don't know if you can say that without knowing what the coverage is, and what the responsibilities of the players are. Any zone coverage has holes in it, and a proper route combination can exploit those holes. If there was a zone coverage that didn't have holes, every team would play that coverage all the time!
"I could draw up route combinations, and if it was the right one, you'd have a wide open receiver. That doesn't mean the coverage was blown."
I learned this when I talked to (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=ArVtLaJLovWIcn7O_Azzx_5YYsp_;_ylu=X3oDMTFkbGs1M3FnBG1pdANCbG9nIEJvZHkEcG9zAzkEc2VjA01lZGlhQmxvZ 0JvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTM1YW5lZzNxBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDY2Q0NmJjYjUtZWMyOS0zMjZmLThmYWQtMjlkZmJjMD Y0MGIxBHBzdGNhdANuZmx8c2h1dGRvd25jb3JuZXIEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=0/SIG=132fq7oca/EXP=1341767308/**http%3A//seahawks.sportspressnw.com/2010/12/play-of-the-day-misreading-coverage/) former NFL quarterback and current Seattle football analyst Hugh Millen about a play the Seattle Seahawks (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/sea;_ylt=At0s_Ni5AYBMCxP4rNGWk3JYYsp_;_ylu=X3oDMTFlNXQ3ZnY3BG1pdANCbG9nIEJvZHkEcG9zAzEwBHNlYwNNZWRpY UJsb2dCb2R5QXNzZW1ibHk-;_ylg=X3oDMTM1YW5lZzNxBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDY2Q0NmJjYjUtZWMyOS0zMjZmLThmYWQtMjlkZmJjMD Y0MGIxBHBzdGNhdANuZmx8c2h1dGRvd25jb3JuZXIEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=3) defended against the Atlanta Falcons in 2010. The Seahawks gave up a touchdown pass from Matt Ryan to Michael Jenkins, and broadcaster Tim Ryan (another former NFL player, and a very smart guy) misread the responsibility for the touchdown even with his overhead view and years of experience. Millen was at the Seahawks facility the next day for Pete Carroll's press conference, and he gave us the real scoop on what happened -- a dissertation that was subsequently backed up by Carroll's own analysis of the play.
I also learned this (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/higher-education-stanford-routt-and-the-touchdowns-that-werent-his-fault;_ylt=AvCBis8Rjz5MPED3nheddpFYYsp_;_ylu=X3oDMTFla2kyZ2h0BG1pdANCbG9nIEJvZHkEcG9zAzExBHNlYwNNZWR pYUJsb2dCb2R5QXNzZW1ibHk-;_ylg=X3oDMTM1YW5lZzNxBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDY2Q0NmJjYjUtZWMyOS0zMjZmLThmYWQtMjlkZmJjMD Y0MGIxBHBzdGNhdANuZmx8c2h1dGRvd25jb3JuZXIEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=3?urn=nfl,wp3180) during one of my conversations with former Oakland Raiders and current Kansas City Chiefs cornerback Stanford Routt. Especially when it comes to defensive backfield responsibilities, we don't really know what's going on because most of us don't talk to the players and coaches about specific plays all the time, and we're not really conditioned to watch deep secondary play because the standard TV angles haven't provided that perspective until now.
Even if you have a reasonably solid knowledge of the game and can identify basic coverages, you can get fooled just like opposing offenses can, because defenses disguise coverages all the time. That straight Cover-2 you see may actually be some ungodly man-zone hybrid, where three different defenders are baiting Mr. Quarterback into doing something he shouldn't.
And if Mr. Quarterback can't figure it out, what chance do we have?
Here's what I'd like to see as an adjunct to the All-22 -- more real talk with coaches and players about what's going on out there, and for the coaches and players to welcome that dialogue. Now that we can see the whole-field view of the game, let's endeavor to ask more pointed and intelligent questions about what we're seeing. Since the NFL has done away with the "You didn't see the whole field" excuse I've heard from some over time, the least we can do is to use this new technology to heighten the level of dialogue about the game we love.