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qabbaan
06-24-2012, 12:19 PM
The Muslim Brotherhood now controls both the parliament and the
presidency of Egypt.

Carter 1 lost Iran, Carter 2 has lost Egypt.

An excerpt from Ed Morrissey:


Well, this should make the Middle East a calmer, more rational place … right?

Muslim Brotherhood candidate Mohammed Morsi has won Egypt’s
presidential runoff, the country’s election commission said Sunday.
Morsi’s supporters, packed into Tahrir Square, were seen celebrating,
dancing and waving flags after the result was announced.

Morsi won by a narrow margin over Ahmed Shafiq, the last prime
minister under deposed leader Hosni Mubarak. The commission said Morsi
took 51.7 percent of the vote versus 48.3 for Shafiq.

~

Hey, not to worry, though. This Morsi fellow seems like the kind of
modern-day diplomat with whom the West can work. Why, here he is on
the campaign trail earlier, complimenting Israel about Jerusalem and
telling the crowd he’d like to visit there soon … joined by a few
million “martyrs”:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9znepNvkrxI&feature=player_embedded

It’s a catchy tune and you can dance to it, but somehow I don’t see it
playing well on American Bandstand.

Note well how Morsi tells the
crowd to forget about the world and “conferences,” and that Jerusalem
(al-Quds) will be their capital.

FD
06-24-2012, 12:23 PM
The military has already neutered the office of the presidency. They are still running things.

qabbaan
06-24-2012, 12:28 PM
The military has already neutered the office of the presidency. They are still running things.

For the moment, but Egypt has now had a free election, and the majority support the Islamist candidate in the above video clip. After the turmoil ends, chances are there will be a new, serious threat to stability in the region.

It is helpful to watch that video to see how lovable and rolly-polly this movement is.

Extra Point
06-24-2012, 12:29 PM
Russia is going to love the armament sales.

Chiefshrink
06-24-2012, 12:33 PM
As Robert Spencer predicted. Thank you OMarxist for you wonderful handling of the M.E. since your "immaculation" ! But then this is what OMarxist wanted since this makes America weaker in the long run not to mention the short run for sure:rolleyes:

Chiefshrink
06-24-2012, 12:33 PM
Russia is going to love the armament sales.

No sh** !!:shake:

qabbaan
06-24-2012, 12:37 PM
"Our capital shall not be Cairo, Mecca, or Medina. It shall be Jerusalem, Allah willing. Our cry shall be: "Millions of martyrs march toward Jerusalem."

(massive crowd chants, "Millions of martyrs march toward Jerusalem")

(whoever) begins singing:

"Banish the sleep from the eyes of all Jews.

Come on, you lovers of martyrdom, you are all Hamas.

Forget about the whole world, forget about all the conferences.

Brandish your weapons, say your prayers, and pray to the Lord."

(repeated, crowd singing along.)

"Indeed, all the lovers of martyrdom are Hamas. I say from this podium, from Al-Mahalla, from the heart of the Delta, from the heart of Egypt, so that the whole world may hear.

We say it loud and clear: Yes, Jerusalem is our goal. We shall pray in Jerusalem or else we shall die as martyrs on its threshold."

(more chanting, "Millions of martyrs march toward Jerusalem")

FD
06-24-2012, 12:38 PM
For the moment, but Egypt has now had a free election, and the majority support the Islamist candidate in the above video clip. After the turmoil ends, chances are there will be a new, serious threat to stability in the region.

It is helpful to watch that video to see how lovable and rolly-polly this movement is.

The man in that clip is not Mohammed Morsi.

qabbaan
06-24-2012, 12:41 PM
The man in that clip is not Mohammed Morsi.

Isn't he the one singing? Or is this merely his victory celebration? I can't read Arabic, the clip was from the article.

FD
06-24-2012, 12:42 PM
Isn't he the one singing? Or is this merely his victory celebration? I can't read Arabic, the clip was from the article.

Just from watching the clip, its not Morsi, who is not bald.

FD
06-24-2012, 12:45 PM
For anyone looking for a serious take on the Arab Spring and recent Egyptian presidential elections, pick up the most recent copy of The Economist magazine, which has in-depth coverage. Here is the cover article:


Egypt in peril

Beneath the chaos lies a complex power struggle between generals and Islamists. The West should back the latter

A YEAR and a half after the optimism of the Arab spring, the Middle East is in frightening turmoil. Syria is close to sliding into a full-scale civil war whose outcome is unknowable, though its bloodstained president, Bashar Assad, looks likely sooner or later to fall. Libya, mercifully shorn of its crazy tyrant, is being periodically rocked by the still-untamed militias that ousted him; its general election, scheduled for this month, has been pushed back until next. Yemen, having shed its ruling bully of 33 years, has become al-Qaeda’s favourite haunt. Tunisia, which had been gliding most smoothly from despotism to democracy, has seen riots by religious extremists (see article). Sudan’s vile government and Oman’s more amiable one have also both been rattled by protests. And in Saudi Arabia a long-lingering succession crisis is back starkly in the spotlight with the death of its crown prince (see article).

However, the most troubling developments are in Egypt (see article), the Arab world’s most populous country. After 18 months of messy progress towards democracy, the army seems determined to reverse the march to freedom, or at least to put a heavy brake on it. If Egypt goes wrong, then democracy’s progress elsewhere in the Arab world will be far slower.

Egypt is not, however, doomed to return to dictatorship. Turkey, where the army has reached an accommodation with moderate Islamists, points to a peaceful way out. And the West can help by making it clear that democratically elected politicians, even Islamist ones, rank above generals.

Who’s actually in charge?

As The Economist went to press, the power struggle between the army and the Islamists was intensifying. News that Hosni Mubarak, ousted last year after 30 years as despot, was near to death after a stroke in prison may be irrelevant to the outcome of the current power struggle. But it is a ghostly reminder of how politically moribund Egypt used to be.

On the more hopeful side, it looks as if Muhammad Morsi, a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, will still probably be declared the winner of the run-off for president, beating Ahmed Shafiq, a general and Mr Mubarak’s last prime minister; if so, President Morsi should take office by July 1st. This in itself would be a momentous event, marking the first time in Egypt that a reasonably free presidential election had been held, producing a head of state legitimised by the popular will, albeit in a polarised society. It would also be the first time in the Arab world that an Islamist president had come to power by democratic means. Mr Morsi would—it is still assumed—be empowered to appoint a government and take his place as Egypt’s democratically chosen leader on the global stage.

But too little of this is certain. At its worst, the army could declare that Mr Shafiq has somehow won. Even if Mr Morsi’s victory is accepted, it is not clear what powers he will have. The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF), a cabal of a score or so of generals who became the caretaker rulers after Mr Mubarak’s fall, has never been keen to let Egypt become a fully fledged democracy. But the SCAF now seems to have gone back on its earlier promise to withdraw to its barracks. A week ago the generals told the pliable Mubarak-era judges on the constitutional court to dissolve the new parliament, which had produced a strong Islamist majority, on ridiculously technical grounds that could have been aired months ago. Now the SCAF claims the power to lay down the laws that the parliament was expected to pass and even to draw up the budget. It will also have the right to choose and direct a constituent assembly or a constitution-drafting body to produce a document spelling out the president’s powers and, presumably, new rules for fresh elections to parliament.

These are threatening moves, but so far at least this does not seem to be a counter-revolution. Rather than a hard coup intended to snuff out the country’s evolving democracy, it is an attempt to slow and control it. The army’s priority is keeping its “special role”, its economic privileges and some of the ministries of power, such as defence and internal security, much as Turkey’s generals did in the 1990s, when they blocked a democratically elected Islamist government and continued forcibly to parade themselves as guardians of a secular order.

If the Turkish analogy is pursued, the outcome may yet hold out hope. Turkey has suffered more than its share of coups and political violence. But those dangers have receded as the Islamists have proved moderate and popular, winning three fair elections in a row and whittling away the generals’ power. Although the “deep state”, sinister and pervasive in Turkey as it plainly still is in Egypt, lingers in the apparatus of security and repression, Turkey’s Islamists have won the moral authority to send the soldiers back to barracks, and have exercised it. If Egypt follows this path, nothing the generals have done this week will stop the march to democracy for long.

Wield the stick, Mr Obama

There are two canards that politicians in the West use as an excuse for ignoring the Arab spring. The first is that there is little to choose between the generals and the Islamists. This is just Mubarakism revisited. This newspaper did not want the Islamists to trounce the secular reformers, but they did. The best way to tame the Islamists, as Turkey’s experience shows, is to deny them the moral high ground to which repression elevates them, and condemn them instead to the responsibilities and compromises of day-to-day government.

The second argument is that Egypt is too complex for the West to influence. The situation is certainly messy; but messages from the outside can be clear and strong. Frequent insistence that the army sticks to its democratic promises could make a difference. The generals thrive on American aid and are plainly nervous about seizing untrammelled power. By pressing them to negotiate with Mr Morsi over a constitution to provide for a new parliament, the United States and Europe could tip the balance in democracy’s favour.

In Egypt’s confusion, one thing stands out: Egyptians, and Arabs elsewhere, want to run their own affairs. Kings or generals may slow progress to that end, but they cannot stop it.

qabbaan
06-24-2012, 12:45 PM
Just from watching the clip, its not Morsi, who is not bald.

Watching on my phone.

Perhaps it's his Imam, and he sat in his congregation for 20 years and never heard a thing? :Poke:

Chiefshrink
06-24-2012, 12:45 PM
"Our capital shall not be Cairo, Mecca, or Medina. It shall be Jerusalem, Allah willing. Our cry shall be: "Millions of martyrs march toward Jerusalem."

(massive crowd chants, "Millions of martyrs march toward Jerusalem")

(whoever) begins singing:

"Banish the sleep from the eyes of all Jews.

Come on, you lovers of martyrdom, you are all Hamas.

Forget about the whole world, forget about all the conferences.

Brandish your weapons, say your prayers, and pray to the Lord."

(repeated, crowd singing along.)

"Indeed, all the lovers of martyrdom are Hamas. I say from this podium, from Al-Mahalla, from the heart of the Delta, from the heart of Egypt, so that the whole world may hear.

We say it loud and clear: Yes, Jerusalem is our goal. We shall pray in Jerusalem or else we shall die as martyrs on its threshold."

(more chanting, "Millions of martyrs march toward Jerusalem")

A religion of peace for sure:rolleyes:

qabbaan
06-24-2012, 01:05 PM
Hope you are right FD, hope you are right

Chiefshrink
06-24-2012, 01:13 PM
Obama will surely show his true colors again in who he supports:thumb:

DementedLogic
06-24-2012, 01:15 PM
Watching on my phone.

Perhaps it's his Imam, and he sat in his congregation for 20 years and never heard a thing? :Poke:

Perhaps the video is a fake and the guy in the video has nothing to do with Morsi. The video claims that it is Morsi, but it is very clear that it is not.

There are a lot of suckers in this world who will believe it though.

ForeverChiefs58
06-24-2012, 04:16 PM
Perhaps the video is a fake and the guy in the video has nothing to do with Morsi. The video claims that it is Morsi, but it is very clear that it is not.

There are a lot of suckers in this world who will believe it though.

No, it is not him. It is Safwat Hijazi, Morsi's campaign manager. He is an imam and very famous television preacher of hate. 100% All evil.

A little history on this asshole:

They use to show his hate speeches in the UK until he was finally banned by the govt for stirring-up hatred and glorifying terrorist violence.

Hijazi was investigated in Egypt in 2006 for issuing a fatwā calling for the death of visiting Israeli officials. He later withdrew the fatwa.

On December 3, 2008 Hijazi made the statement about Israeli Jews; “Dispatch those sons of apes and pigs to the Hellfire on the wings of Qassam rockets.”

In 2009 he declared in a television interview that Buddhism, Zoroastrianism and the Baha'i Faith were not religions but were man-made. He said Baha'is were a current danger and fought alongside Zionists in 1948.

In an address that aired Al-Nas TV on July 11, 2010, Safwat called on parents to "our children sit in front of the computer and the playstation, and play games that will never lead them to wage Jihad."

In 2012, Safwat Launched MB Candidate Muhammad Mursi's Campaign. In his speech to a crowd of hundreds of thousands of Egyptians, Safwat emphasized that Mursi will lead Egypt's campaign to restore the "United States of the Arabs" with Jerusalem as its capital, and urged listeners to "awake Jews from their slumber" and to march as martyrs toward Jerusalem.

ForeverChiefs58
06-24-2012, 04:27 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/3wW0V6VckGQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

mlyonsd
06-24-2012, 04:42 PM
The brilliant journalist Andrea Mitchell just reported Morsi will honor all treaties and continue to honor women's rights. She even quoted that other brilliant mind John Kerry that Morsi is most worried about Egypt's economy.

Stay tuned.

FD
06-24-2012, 04:45 PM
One more note, under the new constitutional arrangement, the Egyptian President has no authority over foreign policy or the military.

Chiefshrink
06-24-2012, 04:56 PM
One more note, under the new constitutional arrangement, the Egyptian President has no authority over foreign policy or the military.

What a shocker ! Not surprising at all.

Aries Walker
06-24-2012, 06:08 PM
Obama has mostly stayed out of Egypt during this whole thing, which is about all he could/can do. If we support a brutal dictator for thirty years, we have to be prepared for the country to go in a direction we don't want, once he gets violently overthrown.

Taco John
06-24-2012, 09:17 PM
http://i.imgur.com/emreL.png


Democracy pretty much blows. A Constitutional Republic is the best thing man has invented yet. I hope we return to it someday.

Pawnmower
06-25-2012, 12:03 AM
No, it is not him. It is Safwat Hijazi, Morsi's campaign manager. He is an imam and very famous television preacher of hate. 100% All evil.

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Interesting...The 1st shot looks a lot like Morsi.....the second shot of him singing (pammed farther back), clearly isnt morsi.....

On second look, yah neither are Morsi....

Morsi looks like he wears a hair piece, I thought the 1st guy was him without a hair piece in.....but I don't think it is really is...

Too bad there is a huge element that agrees with this garbage though...

But I agree with FC58, this is not Morsi.

It is still very disturbing that this man is the Campaign Manager for the president though....

ForeverChiefs58
06-25-2012, 09:45 AM
People in Gaza are celebrating like it's Sep 2001. The supporters of terrorism are happy...and I'm not just talking about Frankie and Direckshun.

Iran hails Islamist Morsy's Egypt vote victory

DUBAI (Reuters) - Iran's Foreign Ministry congratulated Egyptians on Sunday over the victory of Islamist Mohamed Morsy in the country's first free presidential election and said the country was in the final stages of an "Islamic Awakening".

Muslim Brotherhood candidate Morsy defeated former general Ahmed Shafik to succeed President Hosni Mubarak, who was overthrown last year after a popular revolt against his rule.

"The foreign ministry of the Islamic Republic of Iran congratulates the victory of the Egyptian nation in these elections and the presidency of Doctor Mohammed Morsy," it said in a statement on the Iranian Students' News Agency (ISNA).

"The revolutionary movement of the Egyptian people... is in its final stages of the Islamic Awakening and a new era of change in the Middle East".

Iran has lauded most Arab Spring uprisings as anti-Western rebellions inspired by its own 1979 Islamic Revolution, which empowered the Shi'ite clerical establishment.

But it has steadfastly supported Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, Tehran's closest Arab ally, and at home it has continued to nullify demands for reform, which spilled into the street following the disputed re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in 2009.

"The historic Egyptian nation, with their responsible participation in the momentous election have again proved their determination to realize the noble and justice-seeking ideals of the great revolution of Egypt with a splendid vision of democracy," the ministry said


Hamas praises Morsi Egypt win, Gaza celebrates

Palestinians in Gaza celebrated on Sunday, as Muslim Brotherhood candidate Mohamed Morsi was named winner of Egypt's presidential election, with Hamas hailing a "historic moment."

And the Palestinian Authority in charge of the West Bank issued its own congratulations to Morsi, who is set to become Egypt's first post-uprising president.

Senior Hamas official Mahmud Zahar told AFP that the victory was "a historic moment and a new era in the history of Egypt," as Gazans cheered and fired volleys of celebratory gunfire in the streets of the Palestinian territory.

The Hamas Islamist movement that rules the Gaza Strip has long-standing ties with the Muslim Brotherhood, and grew from the Egyptian organisation that saw its candidate win 51.73 percent of the vote to defeat ex-prime minister Ahmed Shafiq.

Zahar called Morsi's victory "a defeat for the programme of normalisation and security cooperation with the enemy," referring to Israel.

The Palestinian Authority also congratulated Egypt's president-elect.

"We congratulate Doctor Mohamed Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood candidate, on his win in the Egyptian presidential elections, and his election as president of Egypt," Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat told AFP.

The Palestinians have closely watched Egypt's post-uprising transition, with Hamas hailing the rise of its traditional ally the Muslim Brotherhood, which also won a majority in Egypt's parliamentary elections.

BucEyedPea
06-25-2012, 11:13 AM
It was going to happen anyway. No matter who was in office. Same with Iran. You guys need to read more material that's not solely written from a US viewpoint—which leaves out too many facts.

Seriously, the US has still been operating in this country covertly to prevent this. If govt can't control everyone here at home, or decide what is right for all here then you can't expect it elsewhere.

BucEyedPea
06-25-2012, 11:15 AM
Democracy pretty much blows. A Constitutional Republic is the best thing man has invented yet. I hope we return to it someday.

Excellent choice!:thumb:

cosmo20002
06-25-2012, 11:24 AM
The Muslim Brotherhood now controls both the parliament and the
presidency of Egypt.

Carter 1 lost Iran, Carter 2 has lost Egypt.



So the US president is responsible for the politics and outcome of elections in all other countries? No wonder you guys are always so outraged about D presidents--you have absurd (and ever-shifting) standards that could never possibly be met.

BucEyedPea
06-25-2012, 11:26 AM
I should have visited Lew's first today before posting. Things aren't what they appear and looks like that covert activity I mentioned has paid off! Kinda of like how elections are here. Especially with Rombama!



Little Hope for the New Egyptian Prez
Posted by Lew Rockwell on June 24, 2012 03:48 PM
The US-Israel controlled Egyptian military junta chose Mohamed Morsi as the one Muslim Brotherhood official who could run in the election, against an open Mubarakite. So is he owned lock, stock, and barrel? In a non-foreign policy area where he might have some say, Morsi is an economic statist of the worst sort. So the oppressed Egyptians can look forward to Mubarakism minus Mubarak.

Taco John
06-25-2012, 12:00 PM
"The Koran is our constitution, the Prophet is our leader, jihad is our path and death in the name of Allah is our goal." -Egypt's new president, Mohammed Morsi

http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_05_13/74584752/

ForeverChiefs58
06-25-2012, 12:01 PM
I should have visited Lew's first today before posting. Things aren't what they appear and looks like that covert activity I mentioned has paid off! Kinda of like how elections are here. Especially with Rombama!

I knew it was bullshit as soon as I read this:

"Posted by Lew Rockwell" -where they bring in all the moonbats with this catch phrase, "Your anti-state, anti-war, pro-market news site."

Then this:

"The US-Israel controlled Egyptian military" -This is just retarded.

Anyone who reads and believes this BS should have their child bearing privileges taken away to prevent further diarrhea in the gene pool.

cosmo20002
06-25-2012, 12:05 PM
"Posted by Lew Rockwell" -where they bring in all the moonbats with this catch phrase, "Your anti-state, anti-war, pro-market news site."

What happens if the market wants a war? Just curious how that works.

ForeverChiefs58
06-25-2012, 12:06 PM
"The Koran is our constitution, the Prophet is our leader, jihad is our path and death in the name of Allah is our goal." -Egypt's new president, Mohammed Morsi

http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_05_13/74584752/


If death in the name of Allah is the goal, then he should start first.

ForeverChiefs58
06-25-2012, 12:17 PM
Egypt’s President Elect Mohamed Mursi has announced a plan to revise his country’s Camp David peace accords with Israel.

Speaking in Cairo Monday in an interview with Iran’s Fars news agency, he described these accords as ‘unequal and unfair’.

He also said he would step up Egypt’s efforts to bring forward the prospect of a sovereign Palestinian state.

Mr Mursi assured his nation that he would take all major decisions together with his Ministers.

http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_06_25/79262787/

BucEyedPea
06-25-2012, 12:34 PM
I knew it was bullshit as soon as I read this:

"Posted by Lew Rockwell" -where they bring in all the moonbats with this catch phrase, "Your anti-state, anti-war, pro-market news site."

Then this:

"The US-Israel controlled Egyptian military" -This is just retarded.

Anyone who reads and believes this BS should have their child bearing privileges taken away to prevent further diarrhea in the gene pool.

I see you lose all civility when your foaming hate guides you. As such, your post is doesn't refute or prove otherwise. Just another one of your logical fallacies.

Sorry, this has been reported elsewhere as well, unless you read your own BS sources. Ya' know the ones with the ideology that believes in using the "Noble Lie" and said Iraq had WMD. Hillary Clinton sure knows about this covert activity. It's the same activity being used in Syria to destabilize it in order to implement the "Clean Break" agenda by the NeoCons. What a mess they've made. Progressives usually make things worse.

BucEyedPea
06-25-2012, 12:38 PM
What happens if the market wants a war? Just curious how that works.

This is an oxymoron regarding markets. Wars hurt markets and economies suffer from war, contrary to popular sentiment.

BucEyedPea
06-25-2012, 12:50 PM
Egypt’s President Elect Mohamed Mursi has announced a plan to revise his country’s Camp David peace accords with Israel.

Speaking in Cairo Monday in an interview with Iran’s Fars news agency, he described these accords as ‘unequal and unfair’.

He also said he would step up Egypt’s efforts to bring forward the prospect of a sovereign Palestinian state.

Mr Mursi assured his nation that he would take all major decisions together with his Ministers.

http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_06_25/79262787/

Your Russian source is more reliable now? LOL!

I read elsewhere, he plans to honor international agreements. Now unless international does not mean US ones, then this remains to be seen. Still the military is independent and in CONTROL. Oh, and reactions in Israel are mixed not of one mind. Gotta be a reason for that.

Aries Walker
06-25-2012, 12:54 PM
I wonder if it's too late to bring back the Pharaohs.

ForeverChiefs58
06-25-2012, 01:08 PM
I see you lose all civility when your foaming hate guides you. As such, your post is doesn't refute or prove otherwise. Just another one of your logical fallacies.

Sorry, this has been reported elsewhere as well, unless you read your own BS sources. Ya' know the ones with the ideology that believes in using the "Nobel Lie" and said Iraq had WMD. Hillary Clinton sure knows about this covert activity. It's the same activity being used in Syria to destabilize it in order to implement the "Clean Break" agenda by the NeoCons. What a mess they've made. Progressives usually make things worse.

Wow, no wonder you believe and post such BS, you read waaayyyyy too much into what other people write.

Sorry, but if you post BS, others will comment on it. I am not foaming or full of hate, I just know shit when I see it and called it as I saw it.

Maybe your inability to take things at face value instead of reaching into what other people write is your main problem, and behind all your Ronald Reagan fiasco.

While my post may not refute it, common sense sure does.

My post also doesn't refute that the world is really run by aliens, but you get the idea.

If you would like to post an article proving your point by someone who doesn't have his head up his ass and his ass buried in the sand, then go ahead, but no sensible person would take what anti-state, anti-war websites say and mistake them for facts.

BucEyedPea
06-25-2012, 01:14 PM
I wonder if it's too late to bring back the Pharaohs.

They were totalitarians. Totally, had a command and control economy and a very regulated society.
And they persecuted Jews in their own way.

BucEyedPea
06-25-2012, 01:15 PM
Wow, no wonder you believe and post such BS, you read waaayyyyy too much into what other people write.

Sorry, but if you post BS, others will comment on it. I am not foaming or full of hate, I just know shit when I see it and called it as I saw it.

Maybe your inability to take things at face value instead of reaching into what other people write is your main problem, and behind all your Ronald Reagan fiasco.

While my post may not refute it, common sense sure does.

My post also doesn't refute that the world is really run by aliens, but you get the idea.

If you would like to post an article proving your point by someone who doesn't have his head up his ass and his ass buried in the sand, then go ahead, but no sensible person would take what anti-state, anti-war websites say and mistake them for facts.

:LOL: That's all you deserve.

ForeverChiefs58
06-25-2012, 01:20 PM
Your Russian source is more reliable now? LOL!

I read elsewhere, he plans to honor international agreements. Now unless international does not mean US ones, then this remains to be seen. Still the military is independent and in CONTROL. Oh, and reactions in Israel are mixed not of one mind. Gotta be a reason for that.

Ha. Actually, I clicked on the link Taco provided, and it seemed pretty legit. I then used google and verified what I read through other websites. You should try it sometime. It would make you a lot less looney.

BucEyedPea
06-25-2012, 01:26 PM
Did foaming at the mouth with hate, anger and abuse say something?

Aries Walker
06-25-2012, 01:44 PM
They were totalitarians. Totally, had a command and control economy and a very regulated society.
And they persecuted Jews in their own way.
I know. Slavery and all. I was being facetious.

ForeverChiefs58
06-25-2012, 01:46 PM
Did foaming at the mouth with hate, anger and abuse say something?


Did cum dumpster, monkey sucking, gangbanger BEP say something?

I like it when you play with my balls while you talk dirty you nasty little whore you.

go bowe
06-25-2012, 09:30 PM
Did cum dumpster, monkey sucking, gangbanger BEP say something?

I like it when you play with my balls while you talk dirty you nasty little whore you.

man, you better be careful or that horny little kookster will be looking you up for some good ol southern sexting...

and who sucks monkeys?

blaise
06-26-2012, 07:01 AM
This is a feather in Obama's cap.