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pr_capone
06-26-2012, 12:28 AM
... they should not be allowed to serve them consecutively.

Obama's administration removing federal immigration support from the state of Arizona only re-enforces my belief that a sitting president should not be allowed to run for the office during the following election. I honestly and truly believe that his actions are little more than for the purpose of securing the hispanic vote in this coming election.

I don't like Romney any more than I like Obama but if I have to choose between a giant douche who supports state's rights to secure their borders, and a turd sandwich more interested in politicking than defending the welfare of the citizens who elected him.... then giant douche it is.

Not allowing a sitting president to use his office as a campaigning tool would squash a bunch of this bullshit.

J Diddy
06-26-2012, 12:42 AM
Oh, the outrage!!!! Seems there's a ton of that when It it's their pet being slaughtered.

Not so much when it isn't.

La literatura
06-26-2012, 12:43 AM
Personally, I dislike the two term limit. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind the six year term proposal.

pr_capone
06-26-2012, 12:48 AM
Oh, the outrage!!!! Seems there's a ton of that when It it's their pet being slaughtered.

Not so much when it isn't.

thanks for attributing thoughts to me that I never implied or stated. also... I apologize that this only being the 3rd presidential election I have been able to participate in that I just somewhat recently came up with this thought.

fuckwit

Chiefshrink
06-26-2012, 12:55 AM
... they should not be allowed to serve them consecutively.

Obama's administration removing federal immigration support from the state of Arizona only re-enforces my belief that a sitting president should not be allowed to run for the office during the following election. I honestly and truly believe that his actions are little more than for the purpose of securing the hispanic vote in this coming election.

I don't like Romney any more than I like Obama but if I have to choose between a giant douche who supports state's rights to secure their borders, and a turd sandwich more interested in politicking than defending the welfare of the citizens who elected him.... then giant douche it is.

Not allowing a sitting president to use his office as a campaigning tool would squash a bunch of this bullshit.

Glad to see you coming around:thumb:

Chiefshrink
06-26-2012, 12:56 AM
thanks for attributing thoughts to me that I never implied or stated. also... I apologize that this only being the 3rd presidential election I have been able to participate in that I just somewhat recently came up with this thought.

****wit

He truly is a J Dildo:rolleyes:

Chiefshrink
06-26-2012, 12:57 AM
Personally, I dislike the two term limit. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind the six year term proposal.

If that were the case now with OMarxist in office our country is toast for sure:rolleyes:

pr_capone
06-26-2012, 12:58 AM
Glad to see you coming around:thumb:

coming around? I've made an effort to become more politically aware over the past year or two but I've never been a fan of Obama... or GB for that matter. The last president, who IMO, did more good than harm was Clinton.

/probably just burned up any goodwill you had for me from the OP lol

Chiefshrink
06-26-2012, 01:12 AM
coming around? I've made an effort to become more politically aware over the past year or two but I've never been a fan of Obama... or GB for that matter. The last president, who IMO, did more good than harm was Clinton.

/probably just burned up any goodwill you had for me from the OP lol

Nah, dude :thumb: You've always been cool with me. Contrary to popular belief I like everybody here in DC and on CP in general. Even Milkdud ! (Milkman) regardless if they disagree with me or not. It's fun smack talking, name calling while learning and being a teacher as well:thumb:

But now you are hooked that you have become interested in the last 2yrs and I assure you your heart will bleed more red, white and blue as time goes on.

J Diddy
06-26-2012, 10:44 PM
He truly is a J Dildo:rolleyes:

thanks for attributing thoughts to me that I never implied or stated. also... I apologize that this only being the 3rd presidential election I have been able to participate in that I just somewhat recently came up with this thought.

****wit

The man love is strong with you two, haha. Get a room.

Apparently I struck a nerve with you because you sure did get pissy real fast.

J Diddy
06-26-2012, 10:46 PM
Nah, dude :thumb: You've always been cool with me. Contrary to popular belief I like everybody here in DC and on CP in general. Even Milkdud ! (Milkman) regardless if they disagree with me or not. It's fun smack talking, name calling while learning and being a teacher as well:thumb:

But now you are hooked that you have become interested in the last 2yrs and I assure you your heart will bleed more red, white and blue as time goes on.

Translation: Welcome to the zombie club. Soon we'll have your reposting every whack job political site on teh web just like me.

pr_capone
06-26-2012, 11:16 PM
Apparently I struck a nerve with you because you sure did get pissy real fast.

your and idiot

my reply was not pissy... it was factual. you made an assumption and I replied that it was incorrect.

pr_capone
06-26-2012, 11:18 PM
Translation: Welcome to the zombie club. Soon we'll have your reposting every whack job political site on teh web just like me.

seriously... it is people like you that turn me off on trying to talk politics. if people don't agree with what you think, they are stupid, zombies, and idiots. no room what so ever to have an actual conversation.

J Diddy
06-26-2012, 11:28 PM
your and idiot

my reply was not pissy... it was factual. you made an assumption and I replied that it was incorrect.

seriously... it is people like you that turn me off on trying to talk politics. if people don't agree with what you think, they are stupid, zombies, and idiots. no room what so ever to have an actual conversation.

That's too funny.

Let's examine some things about your opening post. You listed all the things that Obama has done that you have disliked and, in the same breath, that no president should serve to consecutive terms. Are these 2 topics related? If not, why share them with your central point about presidential terms?
An assumption was made by me that they were related (after all, they are in the same OP.) If they are related, which I believe them to be, then that is paramount to my statement, which in laymans terms means everyone wants to get rid of the guy you don't like, but there's no outrage otherwise.

This you replied with calling me a fuckwit. Three posts later you're outraged by name calling.

In terms of the zombie, etc. statement I made that wasn't so directed at you but at sportshrinks MO. If you can't see that, then you don't need to talk politics, you need a prescription.

So my advice is to get over yourself.

pr_capone
06-26-2012, 11:45 PM
That's too funny.

Let's examine some things about your opening post. You listed all the things that Obama has done that you have disliked and, in the same breath, that no president should serve to consecutive terms. Are these 2 topics related? If not, why share them with your central point about presidential terms?
An assumption was made by me that they were related (after all, they are in the same OP.) If they are related, which I believe them to be, then that is paramount to my statement, which in laymans terms means everyone wants to get rid of the guy you don't like, but there's no outrage otherwise.

I'm commenting on current events. I apologize... I definitely should have gone back and listed all the things that presidents who have served two consecutive terms for the past 30 years that lead me to that thought so as not to confuse you. I'll be more thoughtful and considerate in future posts.

This you replied with calling me a ****wit. Three posts later you're outraged by name calling.

In terms of the zombie, etc. statement I made that wasn't so directed at you but at sportshrinks MO. If you can't see that, then you don't need to talk politics, you need a prescription.

So my advice is to get over yourself.

I don't know sportshrinks MO as I hardly spend any time in this subforum at all. I understand that you were not speaking directly at me with that reply. I was making a comment about your reply. Every time I come across a political discussion... it typically degrades into Moonbat v RWNJ. I don't understand your, and other's, attack via over exaggeration and jump to conclusions mentality.

Lastly, you are absolutely a fuckwit.

J Diddy
06-26-2012, 11:53 PM
I'm commenting on current events. I apologize... I definitely should have gone back and listed all the things that presidents who have served two consecutive terms for the past 30 years that lead me to that thought so as not to confuse you. I'll be more thoughtful and considerate in future posts.



I don't know sportshrinks MO as I hardly spend any time in this subforum at all. I understand that you were not speaking directly at me with that reply. I was making a comment about your reply. Every time I come across a political discussion... it typically degrades into Moonbat v RWNJ. I don't understand your, and other's, attack via over exaggeration and jump to conclusions mentality.

Lastly, you are absolutely a ****wit.

Please show me where I attacked anyone in my original comment. You know the one you got so butthurt over. It was a generalization about people wanting the rules changed to suit their needs but not showing that same outrage when it's their guy.

In fact, the only statement that was remotely attacking to you was my "manlove" comment. However, you continue with the name calling that, as you stated, you don't like.

Personally, I could care less. I have felt that you and I weren't going to be buddies from day 1, but you seem to have this thing for me. I won't allow you to bring me to your level, so good day sir.

pr_capone
06-26-2012, 11:59 PM
Please show me where I attacked anyone in my original comment. You know the one you got so butthurt over. It was a generalization about people wanting the rules changed to suit their needs but not showing that same outrage when it's their guy.

who is my guy exactly?


Personally, I could care less. I have felt that you and I weren't going to be buddies from day 1, but you seem to have this thing for me. I won't allow you to bring me to your level, so good day sir.

A thing for you? This is one of the few interactions we have had that I have any real recollection of, aside from the tebow/quinn thread. Not trying to be insulting insinuating that you are below me or anything but seriously... where else have we clashed?

I'm sorry you feel that we weren't gonna be buddies since way back in 2006 when I first joined. Don't know what I did to give you that impression way back when but it is what it is. :shrug:

Good day to you as well, sir.

LiveSteam
06-27-2012, 12:07 AM
That's too funny.

Let's examine some things about your opening post. You listed all the things that Obama has done that you have disliked and, in the same breath, that no president should serve to consecutive terms. Are these 2 topics related? If not, why share them with your central point about presidential terms?
An assumption was made by me that they were related (after all, they are in the same OP.) If they are related, which I believe them to be, then that is paramount to my statement, which in laymans terms means everyone wants to get rid of the guy you don't like, but there's no outrage otherwise.

This you replied with calling me a fuckwit. Three posts later you're outraged by name calling.

In terms of the zombie, etc. statement I made that wasn't so directed at you but at sportshrinks MO. If you can't see that, then you don't need to talk politics, you need a prescription.

So my advice is to get over yourself.
Are there no tall buildings where you live?

KC native
06-27-2012, 10:03 AM
....but they're not removing support. They're telling Arizona," you can have your law. You can even try and enforce it. We just won't accept anyone that comes from something that is incosistent with our guidelines for deportation."

The feds aren't going to stop deporting people from Az. They're just not going to accept illegals caught under the papers please law.

mlyonsd
06-27-2012, 10:56 AM
....but they're not removing support. They're telling Arizona," you can have your law. You can even try and enforce it. We just won't accept anyone that comes from something that is incosistent with our guidelines for deportation."

The feds aren't going to stop deporting people from Az. They're just not going to accept illegals caught under the papers please law.I'd certainly call it removing support.

And Obama looks pretty petty considering the SC reaffirmed AZ's right to ask for proof of citizenship. Obama is in effect going around the SC.

KC native
06-27-2012, 07:09 PM
I'd certainly call it removing support.

And Obama looks pretty petty considering the SC reaffirmed AZ's right to ask for proof of citizenship. Obama is in effect going around the SC.

You can call it what you like but the Federal Government is still in charge of immigration law. They choose where to deploy their resources. Even before they announced the end of this program, they were still using their priority guidelines for illegals. If the person wasn't a felon, or a threat, they got to it when they got to it.

Also, the SC affirmed their right to ask about citizenship if a person is being detained or arrested. They're not allowed to initiate stops based on them thinking someone is illegal. It won't take long until Arizona fucks this up.

Iz Zat Chew
06-27-2012, 07:22 PM
You can call it what you like but the Federal Government is still in charge of immigration law. They choose where to deploy their resources. Even before they announced the end of this program, they were still using their priority guidelines for illegals. If the person wasn't a felon, or a threat, they got to it when they got to it.

Also, the SC affirmed their right to ask about citizenship if a person is being detained or arrested. They're not allowed to initiate stops based on them thinking someone is illegal. It won't take long until Arizona ****s this up.

So you are saying that it's OK that the illegals are breaking the law and you are accusing law enforcement of maybe, possibly breaking the law and you stand behind the president by circumventing the constitution?

How fucked up is that.

cosmo20002
06-27-2012, 07:54 PM
So you are saying that it's OK that the illegals are breaking the law and you are accusing law enforcement of maybe, possibly breaking the law and you stand behind the president by circumventing the constitution?


Its amazing how you (and others) don't seem to get this. There is no circumventing the constitution.

There are estimated to be 12 million illegals in the US right now. The resources do not exist to go out and search for every one of these people and adjudicate all of their cases. So, there has to be priorities. Those priorities include going after the ones that are violent, committing felonies, or causing some other sort of trouble. It the same reason why your local police force uses more resources to find a murderer instead of a jaywalker. Both are illegal, but one is a bit more urgent.

mlyonsd
06-27-2012, 08:05 PM
Its amazing how you (and others) don't seem to get this. There is no circumventing the constitution.

There are estimated to be 12 million illegals in the US right now. The resources do not exist to go out and search for every one of these people and adjudicate all of their cases. So, there has to be priorities. Those priorities include going after the ones that are violent, committing felonies, or causing some other sort of trouble. It the same reason why your local police force uses more resources to find a murderer instead of a jaywalker. Both are illegal, but one is a bit more urgent.Oh I get it.

I can also see how Obama is using the fed to disregard the law. And think Romney should beat him over the head continually with it.

Iz Zat Chew
06-27-2012, 08:24 PM
Its amazing how you (and others) don't seem to get this. There is no circumventing the constitution.

There are estimated to be 12 million illegals in the US right now. The resources do not exist to go out and search for every one of these people and adjudicate all of their cases. So, there has to be priorities. Those priorities include going after the ones that are violent, committing felonies, or causing some other sort of trouble. It the same reason why your local police force uses more resources to find a murderer instead of a jaywalker. Both are illegal, but one is a bit more urgent.

Your blind trust of Obama is admirable. But, he is still going around congress at every opportunity. It's been said on other threads that if Obama is re-elected that may be the last free election we will ever have. Somehow I don't see that as a large stretch of the imagination.

cosmo20002
06-27-2012, 08:34 PM
Your blind trust of Obama is admirable. But, he is still going around congress at every opportunity. It's been said on other threads that if Obama is re-elected that may be the last free election we will ever have. Somehow I don't see that as a large stretch of the imagination.

It has nothing to do with trust, just facts. The president doesn't need congressional approval for everything.

RedNeckRaider
06-27-2012, 08:37 PM
Its amazing how you (and others) don't seem to get this. There is no circumventing the constitution.

There are estimated to be 12 million illegals in the US right now. The resources do not exist to go out and search for every one of these people and adjudicate all of their cases. So, there has to be priorities. Those priorities include going after the ones that are violent, committing felonies, or causing some other sort of trouble. It the same reason why your local police force uses more resources to find a murderer instead of a jaywalker. Both are illegal, but one is a bit more urgent.

What you do not get you ****ing simpleton is getting this under control is rather simple. Place serious fines and possible jail time on those caught hiring illegals. Take away the jobs, and deport them as you catch them. Put a serious effort to control the boarder. The government uses this (there are just too many here to round them all up) excuse, because they want them here. As far as Barry he is just the first of the pig ****ers that run this country to openly pander for the votes attached to this nonsense~

ILChief
06-27-2012, 08:38 PM
Your blind trust of Obama is admirable. But, he is still going around congress at every opportunity. It's been said on other threads that if Obama is re-elected that may be the last free election we will ever have. Somehow I don't see that as a large stretch of the imagination.

How on earth would him being re-elected be the last free election we will have? That's out there even by RWNJ standards

cosmo20002
06-27-2012, 08:46 PM
How on earth would him being re-elected be the last free election we will have? That's out there even by RWNJ standards

Because in his 2nd term, he will see to it that there are no more elections, or so the theory goes. Of course, with that kind of power, you would think he would just cancel the upcoming elections and not risk losing the election.

cosmo20002
06-27-2012, 08:51 PM
What you do not get you ****ing simpleton is getting this under control is rather simple. Place serious fines and possible jail time on those caught hiring illegals. Take away the jobs, and deport them as you catch them. Put a serious effort to control the boarder. The government uses this (there are just too many here to round them all up) excuse, because they want them here. As far as Barry he is just the first of the pig ****ers that run this country to openly pander for the votes attached to this nonsense~

So simple. And why didn't the Rs do all this? Since Obama is the first to pander on the issue, I wonder how and when all those people got here in the first place.

ILChief
06-27-2012, 08:51 PM
Because in his 2nd term, he will see to it that there are no more elections, or so the theory goes. Of course, with that kind of power, you would think he would just cancel the upcoming elections and not risk losing the election.

Good point, since he's now emperor he should cancel the election, have the entire GOP jailed for disloyalty to the throne, and why worry about the supreme court tomorrow? He can over-rule them now that he has all these new powers

RedNeckRaider
06-27-2012, 08:52 PM
Because in his 2nd term, he will see to it that there are no more elections, or so the theory goes. Of course, with that kind of power, you would think he would just cancel the upcoming elections and not risk losing the election.

I will be damned, a post by you I agree with~

cosmo20002
06-27-2012, 08:59 PM
I will be damned, a post by you I agree with~

Of course, I don't actually believe it. That you do indicates that you should be committed to a mental institution. Or that you should run for a leadership position with the RNC.

Direckshun
06-27-2012, 10:21 PM
... they should not be allowed to serve them consecutively.

Obama's administration removing federal immigration support from the state of Arizona only re-enforces my belief that a sitting president should not be allowed to run for the office during the following election. I honestly and truly believe that his actions are little more than for the purpose of securing the hispanic vote in this coming election.

I don't like Romney any more than I like Obama but if I have to choose between a giant douche who supports state's rights to secure their borders, and a turd sandwich more interested in politicking than defending the welfare of the citizens who elected him.... then giant douche it is.

Not allowing a sitting president to use his office as a campaigning tool would squash a bunch of this bullshit.

There's pretty much no pro-immigrant policies a Democrat can embrace without being called a shill for the Hispanic vote.

For the record, the Arizona law was mostly struck down by a super conservative Supreme Court.

How far from the pack have you strayed, exactly...

Mr. Kotter
06-27-2012, 10:37 PM
pr....love ya man; but stay in the Lounge. FTR...yeah, I should too. Heh.

Iz Zat Chew
06-27-2012, 11:06 PM
How on earth would him being re-elected be the last free election we will have? That's out there even by RWNJ standards

Try looking around the internet, there are more than conservatives that feel that way. I won't harp on the point, but you might wait and see what happens in the near future.

La literatura
06-27-2012, 11:22 PM
Try looking around the internet, there are more than conservatives that feel that way. I won't harp on the point, but you might wait and see what happens in the near future.

Well, if it's somewhere on the internet, you just know it's a legit concern.

cosmo20002
06-27-2012, 11:26 PM
Try looking around the internet, there are more than conservatives that feel that way. I won't harp on the point, but you might wait and see what happens in the near future.

What exactly do you mean by "more than conservatives?" There's a lot of left-of-center people who think this? Where?

As much as I like to lump all of you right-of-center folks together for convenience--and entertainment--most conservatives aren't in the "Obama will cancel elections" or "last free elections" crowd. You are part of a select sub-group of ultra, ultra-batshit crazy kooks that really defy proper classification.

I'm pretty sure your type should be locked up somewhere for society's and your own good, as chances are that the voices in your head will eventually tell you to grab some tin foil headgear, a rifle, and head to a clock tower.

Iz Zat Chew
06-27-2012, 11:46 PM
Well, if it's somewhere on the internet, you just know it's a legit concern.

I didn't say it was a legit concern, there are more people talking about it around the country than you might think. BUT, so you don't think I don't feel strongly about it, Obama wants to be a world leader, not just the U.S. leader. There is nothing he won't do to achieve his goal. It's all aobut him, and has zero to do with America or the people of America.

Iz Zat Chew
06-27-2012, 11:48 PM
What exactly do you mean by "more than conservatives?" There's a lot of left-of-center people who think this? Where?

As much as I like to lump all of you right-of-center folks together for convenience--and entertainment--most conservatives aren't in the "Obama will cancel elections" or "last free elections" crowd. You are part of a select sub-group of ultra, ultra-batshit crazy kooks that really defy proper classification.

I'm pretty sure your type should be locked up somewhere for society's and your own good, as chances are that the voices in your head will eventually tell you to grab some tin foil headgear, a rifle, and head to a clock tower.

I think you are a stupid fuck, no I know you are a stupid fuck. You are a sheep that follows your little black shepard. Wake up and see what you have as a president.

Regardless of all of your childish name calling and classifying the U.S. stands more of a chance now of losing the country than ever before in history. EVEN in 2008 when you said that Bush would cancel the elections. Live life as you wish, you are going to get a big shock sometime in your life.

La literatura
06-27-2012, 11:49 PM
I didn't say it was a legit concern, there are more people talking about it around the country than you might think. BUT, so you don't think I don't feel strongly about it, Obama wants to be a world leader, not just the U.S. leader. There is nothing he won't do to achieve his goal. It's all aobut him, and has zero to do with America or the people of America.

You should some more guns. ASAP

La literatura
06-27-2012, 11:52 PM
Regardless of all of your childish name calling and classifying the U.S. stands more of a chance now of losing the country than ever before in history.

So true. Like, even more of a chance than the Civil War. It's really scary out there.

cosmo20002
06-28-2012, 12:00 AM
I think you are a stupid ****, no I know you are a stupid ****. You are a sheep that follows your little black shepard. Wake up and see what you have as a president.

Regardless of all of your childish name calling and classifying the U.S. stands more of a chance now of losing the country than ever before in history. EVEN in 2008 when you said that Bush would cancel the elections. Live life as you wish, you are going to get a big shock sometime in your life.

Wow. Get help.

Aries Walker
06-28-2012, 12:05 AM
You know, if there's anything Obama has done to appeal to the Hispanic vote, it's his recent immigration order saying that he won't send good illegal students back to El Salvador or wherever. The change in immigration policy has been planned for a while, and it was ICE's response to the repeal of the Arizona immigration laws. It's also been spun like a washing machine by the right-wing press (and the right-wing not-really-the-press, like all of the opinion blogs people have been linked to here).

But even if Obama couldn't run again until 2016, his actions now would still be held for or against Hilary, or whoever, and would work for or against him in four years. The idea sounds better in concept than it would in practice, unfortunately.

But, changes start with ideas, most of which don't pan out, so keep it up.

Direckshun
06-28-2012, 12:07 AM
You know, if there's anything Obama has done to appeal to the Hispanic vote, it's his recent immigration order saying that he won't send good illegal students back to El Salvador or wherever. The change in immigration policy has been planned for a while, and it was ICE's response to the repeal of the Arizona immigration laws. It's also been spun like a washing machine by the right-wing press (and the right-wing not-really-the-press, like all of the opinion blogs people have been linked to here).

But even if Obama couldn't run again until 2016, his actions now would still be held for or against Hilary, or whoever, and would work for or against him in four years. The idea sounds better in concept than it would in practice, unfortunately.

But, changes start with ideas, most of which don't pan out, so keep it up.

Pretty good post.

Public policy is too often crafted for short-term gain, not long-term benefit.

Ensuring presidents can only serve four years at a time only guarantees to make that problem worse.

RedNeckRaider
06-28-2012, 05:26 AM
Of course, I don't actually believe it. That you do indicates that you should be committed to a mental institution. Or that you should run for a leadership position with the RNC.

You are a dolt. I agree that the last free election talk is silly. The fact you think I am a right winger is too funny, and shows what a left wing nut case you are~

patteeu
06-28-2012, 07:22 AM
He's middle of the road. Like suzzer.

mlyonsd
06-28-2012, 07:53 AM
If Hillary would have opposed Obama this year all she would have had to do is run one campaign ad that said "I told you so".

patteeu
06-28-2012, 07:59 AM
If Hillary would have opposed Obama this year all she would have had to do is run one campaign ad that said "I told you so".

Yeah. It sure would have spiced this election year up if Hillary would have jumped in.

J Diddy
06-28-2012, 08:07 AM
I didn't say it was a legit concern, there are more people talking about it around the country than you might think. BUT, so you don't think I don't feel strongly about it, Obama wants to be a world leader, not just the U.S. leader. There is nothing he won't do to achieve his goal. It's all aobut him, and has zero to do with America or the people of America.

How exactly did you come to the conclusion that Obama wants to become a world leader not just the U.S. leader?

ILChief
06-28-2012, 08:20 AM
I didn't say it was a legit concern, there are more people talking about it around the country than you might think. BUT, so you don't think I don't feel strongly about it, Obama wants to be a world leader, not just the U.S. leader. There is nothing he won't do to achieve his goal. It's all aobut him, and has zero to do with America or the people of America.

Wants to be the leader of the world? Let me get this straight: the same guy that right wingers in 08 said was a total wuss that would let other countries walk all over us has now morphed into a stone cold iron fisted dictator hell bent on world domination?

patteeu
06-28-2012, 08:20 AM
How exactly did you come to the conclusion that Obama wants to become a world leader not just the U.S. leader?

I think he's just misunderstanding the apparent Obama goal of diminishing the US to make it one country among many, no better and no worse.

Brainiac
06-28-2012, 08:21 AM
Your blind trust of Obama is admirable. But, he is still going around congress at every opportunity. It's been said on other threads that if Obama is re-elected that may be the last free election we will ever have. Somehow I don't see that as a large stretch of the imagination.
I never find hyperbolic arguments like that to be convincing, and I think that is true of most of the moderates and uncommitted voters (i.e., the voters who actually decide the elections). All you do when you bring up an argument like that is deflect attention away from the real issues.

Iz Zat Chew
06-28-2012, 05:46 PM
I never find hyperbolic arguments like that to be convincing, and I think that is true of most of the moderates and uncommitted voters (i.e., the voters who actually decide the elections). All you do when you bring up an argument like that is deflect attention away from the real issues.

First of all, I wasn't the only person that feels that Obama has motives that none of us realize and by the time we would realize it there wouldn't be time to escape the event.

I don't believe that anyone is tryingn to convince you of anything, they are just putting their feelings up on a site because something in the make up of Obama tells us that he would stop at nothing to maintain the power he now has.

The real issues? He's circumvented the congress on more than one occasion, does that not seem to be a problem in your eyes? What about this administration being responsible for gun running? Does that not seem out of control? The fact the AG is in contempt of Congress for not releasing the information about the so called sting should be a hot ticket item for any American.

I don't trust Obama, I don't like Obama and if given the chance will not vote for Obama.

cosmo20002
06-28-2012, 05:51 PM
First of all, I wasn't the only person that feels that Obama has motives that none of us realize and by the time we would realize it there wouldn't be time to escape the event.

I don't trust Obama, I don't like Obama and if given the chance will not vote for Obama.

KOOK :tinfoil:

Calcountry
06-28-2012, 06:03 PM
... they should not be allowed to serve them consecutively.

Obama's administration removing federal immigration support from the state of Arizona only re-enforces my belief that a sitting president should not be allowed to run for the office during the following election. I honestly and truly believe that his actions are little more than for the purpose of securing the hispanic vote in this coming election.

I don't like Romney any more than I like Obama but if I have to choose between a giant douche who supports state's rights to secure their borders, and a turd sandwich more interested in politicking than defending the welfare of the citizens who elected him.... then giant douche it is.

Not allowing a sitting president to use his office as a campaigning tool would squash a bunch of this bullshit.Oh nonsense, Obama the merciful should, by the divine right of ascendency to his rightful throne, serve for life. Long live the king.

Iz Zat Chew
06-28-2012, 06:03 PM
KOOK :tinfoil:

You are going to be one of the loony left that will be caught off guard.

ROFL Live your life wearing your tinfoil had.

J Diddy
06-28-2012, 06:06 PM
First of all, I wasn't the only person that feels that Obama has motives that none of us realize and by the time we would realize it there wouldn't be time to escape the event.

I don't believe that anyone is tryingn to convince you of anything, they are just putting their feelings up on a site because something in the make up of Obama tells us that he would stop at nothing to maintain the power he now has.

The real issues? He's circumvented the congress on more than one occasion, does that not seem to be a problem in your eyes? What about this administration being responsible for gun running? Does that not seem out of control? The fact the AG is in contempt of Congress for not releasing the information about the so called sting should be a hot ticket item for any American.

I don't trust Obama, I don't like Obama and if given the chance will not vote for Obama.

That is insane thinking. After that little speech, there is no way that your are not Tom Cash.

Every president has circumvented Congress.
Reagan-Iran-Contra
Bush sr.- Well maybe not every president
Clinton-He got a blow job in the office without calling Newt first.
Bush-Not enough space on the internet to list his congressional circumventions.

However, you go right on thinking the world is going to end. It makes a lot of sense to Chicken Little.

Iz Zat Chew
06-28-2012, 06:10 PM
That is insane thinking. After that little speech, there is no way that your are not Tom Cash.

Every president has circumvented Congress.
Reagan-Iran-Contra
Bush sr.- Well maybe not every president
Clinton-He got a blow job in the office without calling Newt first.
Bush-Not enough space on the internet to list his congressional circumventions.

However, you go right on thinking the world is going to end. It makes a lot of sense to Chicken Little.

I don't know wtf you are talking about, but I've never seen anything you've posted that made much sense.

With all of the issues you posed, how many of them had a blind eye of the democrats as Obama has? Well, Clinton pretty much got a blind eye and was dirty.

I doubt that you have any proof of Bush circumventing contress. If you had some you'd have been posting them with all caps.

cosmo20002
06-28-2012, 06:10 PM
You are going to be one of the loony left that will be caught off guard.

ROFL Live your life wearing your tinfoil had.

One of your main complaints--that he circumvents Congress shows what an ignoramus you are. Not every action needs congressional approval. End of story. Learn and accept that.

Iz Zat Chew
06-28-2012, 06:11 PM
One of your main complaints--that he circumvents Congress shows what an ignoramus you are. Not every action needs congressional approval. End of story. Learn and accept that.

Wear your tinfoil hat with pride. I just hope you are man enough to be here when Obama takes the fall for all of the shit he has done.

cosmo20002
06-28-2012, 06:14 PM
Wear your tinfoil hat with pride. I just hope you are man enough to be here when Obama takes the fall for all of the shit he has done.

Apparently you don't understand the concept of the tin foil hat either.

Aries Walker
06-28-2012, 06:15 PM
One of your main complaints--that he circumvents Congress shows what an ignoramus you are. Not every action needs congressional approval. End of story. Learn and accept that.
Actually, he did keep the attacks on Libya going beyond the 30 days after which he was supposed to get Congressional approval. Holder defended the move by saying in essence that the bombings weren't acts of war. It was a pretty blatant act of weaselism, and it's one of the very few real big sticking points I have with Obama's presidency.

Iz Zat Chew
06-28-2012, 06:16 PM
Apparently you don't understand the concept of the tin foil hat either.

Apparently you don't realize that you are being played. I don't give a shit about your ideas, concepts or anything else that you might have to say. You have been a piece of shit, you are a piece of shit and you will always be a piece of shit.

J Diddy
06-28-2012, 06:19 PM
Wear your tinfoil hat with pride. I just hope you are man enough to be here when Obama takes the fall for all of the shit he has done.
:LOL:
Are you really calling someone out for wearing a tinfoil hat, when less than 3 posts ago you basically stated that Obama's reelection would lead to the end of the country?


How rich.

J Diddy
06-28-2012, 06:20 PM
Apparently you don't realize that you are being played. I don't give a shit about your ideas, concepts or anything else that you might have to say. You have been a piece of shit, you are a piece of shit and you will always be a piece of shit.

Which is the problem. If people don't agree with you Tom, then they are a piece of poo.

It's called a reasonable debate. You should try it sometime.

cosmo20002
06-28-2012, 06:22 PM
Actually, he did keep the attacks on Libya going beyond the 30 days after which he was supposed to get Congressional approval. Holder defended the move by saying in essence that the bombings weren't acts of war. It was a pretty blatant act of weaselism, and it's one of the very few real big sticking points I have with Obama's presidency.

Precedent has been set on this kind of stuff for about 50 years.

J Diddy
06-28-2012, 06:26 PM
I don't know wtf you are talking about, but I've never seen anything you've posted that made much sense.

With all of the issues you posed, how many of them had a blind eye of the democrats as Obama has? Well, Clinton pretty much got a blind eye and was dirty.

I doubt that you have any proof of Bush circumventing contress. If you had some you'd have been posting them with all caps.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/20/washington/20cong.html

Here's an interesting read about circumventing congress for you. You should check it out. It pretty much proves what I've said and then some.

Iz Zat Chew
06-28-2012, 06:42 PM
:LOL:
Are you really calling someone out for wearing a tinfoil hat, when less than 3 posts ago you basically stated that Obama's reelection would lead to the end of the country?


How rich.

I'm rich enough. Watch the future. Just watch.

Iz Zat Chew
06-28-2012, 06:45 PM
Which is the problem. If people don't agree with you (try Jack), then they are a piece of poo.

It's called a reasonable debate. You should try it sometime.

You have come close to reasonable debate other than you inability of get a grip of who I am. Cosmo has never had a reasonable response to anything most anyone says. He might have some cogent arguments but he surely does not use them here.

If you want to debate or argue points stop attacking the person and attack the concepts. When you can do that I can as well. I just sling shit when it's slung at me first.

Iz Zat Chew
06-28-2012, 06:46 PM
Precedent has been set on this kind of stuff for about 50 years.Wrong is wrong, doesn't matter what the time frame might be.

Calcountry
06-28-2012, 07:52 PM
Precedent has been set on this kind of stuff for about 50 years.Obama the merciful, prides himself on his unprecedented nature in almost everything he does.