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mikey23545
07-01-2012, 02:42 PM
HOUSTON (KTRK) -- A woman tried to save drivers from getting ticketed by police and instead ended up in jail herself. Now she claims she was wrongfully arrested.

It all happened as officers were clocking speeders and pulling them over last week near downtown. Natalie Plummer now fears police retribution. She says she was just trying to get people to stop driving so fast, and that instead of being seen as helpful, she was arrested for it.

Plummer admits she probably will never hold up a similar sign again out near any road.

"I was completely abiding by the law," she said. "I was simply warning citizens of a situation ahead."

Last Thursday on West Dallas, Plummer was on her bike headed home from the grocery store when she saw Houston police pulling over alleged speeders. She took some video while riding by.

She said, "I felt like he was just pulling random cars over."

So Plummer went up the street a few blocks, made an impromptu sign on a grocery bag reading 'Speed Trap!' and stood, she says, on the sidewalk.

"I for sure did not step into the street," Plummer said. "(I stayed) on the sidewalk the entire time."

After a few minutes, Plummer claims one of the officers drove up, jumped from his car and started pulling at her backpack. She says he searched it without consent, and then arrested her.

"He was telling me he was taking me to jail for obstructing justice, that was an automatic three to five years," Plummer recalled.

She was instead only cited with a misdemeanor. Court documents show her accused of "...walking in the roadway where there is a sidewalk present."

Plummer says, though, that she spent 12 hours in jail before bonding out.

The Houston Police Department refused our request to talk about this incident on camera. A spokesperson says Plummer was "in the roadway" and "was a danger to herself and others and "...the sum total of which was is an arrestable offense."

Plummer said, "He couldn't take me to jail for holding up this sign or he would have. So all he could do was make up something fake about it."

Police say Plummer was combative and resisted arrest. But our KTRK legal analyst says Plummer should not have been arrested.

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Bowser
07-01-2012, 02:46 PM
Haha!

I'm no lawyer, but would she have a case against the cops for unlawful search, or is does that fall under some terrorist clause now?

mikey23545
07-01-2012, 02:48 PM
Haha!

I'm no lawyer, but would she have a case against the cops for unlawful search, or is does that fall under some terrorist clause now?

Hopefully unlawful searches are still unlawful, but who knows...

BIG_DADDY
07-01-2012, 02:54 PM
Haha!

I'm no lawyer, but would she have a case against the cops for unlawful search, or is does that fall under some terrorist clause now?

Cops can do whatever they want to just about anyone they want and get by with it.

|Zach|
07-01-2012, 03:04 PM
This has been a back and forth thing in Kansas City with the KCCheckPoint folks. No force used but they are always up in front warning people of check points.

http://twitter.com/kccheckpoint

mlyonsd
07-01-2012, 03:18 PM
This has been a back and forth thing in Kansas City with the KCCheckPoint folks. No force used but they are always up in front warning people of check points.

http://twitter.com/kccheckpointThe local newspaper in Sioux City runs an article every day in the paper and on their website telling people where the police will be watching for speeders.

MIAdragon
07-01-2012, 03:39 PM
:shake:

dmahurin
07-01-2012, 03:46 PM
This has been a back and forth thing in Kansas City with the KCCheckPoint folks. No force used but they are always up in front warning people of check points.

http://twitter.com/kccheckpoint

One of my favorite people to follow. I have to drive from downtown to blue springs at midnight when I get off work. While I'm doing anything wrong, it's nice to know where the checkpoints are so I dont get slowed down in traffic.

Bump
07-01-2012, 04:11 PM
I have heard many times in the past where radio stations would warn people of speed traps or people calling in. What's the difference?

Garcia Bronco
07-02-2012, 11:57 AM
It won't go anywhere. It's not illegal to warn people of speed traps. It will cost her money though. No good deed goes unpunished.

BucEyedPea
07-02-2012, 11:59 AM
Sounds like a First Amendment infringement on free speech.

Dayze
07-02-2012, 12:00 PM
butthole cops....shocking.
not that it pertains to this situation, but unless you're the person who called the cops, don't say anything to them. I was asked 'where are you headed' and 'where are you coming from' when I got pulled over on the bike, and I simply responded "I don't need to respond to that question sir. I know you're doing your job, but I"m not anwering that".

I got the ticket, but i was doing 47 in a 35. so, I would've got one anyway even if I did manage to piss him off. which I'm sure I did. Cops don't like to be told 'no'.

BucEyedPea
07-02-2012, 12:03 PM
States need revenue. Tickets are sky high here right now.

HonestChieffan
07-02-2012, 12:24 PM
Make her pay a penalty for not getting a permit.

Rain Man
07-02-2012, 12:58 PM
From a policy perspective, the goal of speed enforcement is to get people to slow down. If she's accomplishing that a few hundred feet earlier, then she's doing a good deed, right?

Garcia Bronco
07-02-2012, 01:09 PM
Maybe...but the idea that this is obstruction of juctice in any actual sense is amusing at best.

phisherman
07-02-2012, 01:17 PM
From a policy perspective, the goal of speed enforcement is to get people to slow down. If she's accomplishing that a few hundred feet earlier, then she's doing a good deed, right?

You'd think, but interfering with the revenue that speeding tickets bring in will get the popos bent out of shape.

Fish
07-02-2012, 01:18 PM
From a policy perspective, the goal of speed enforcement is to get people to slow down. If she's accomplishing that a few hundred feet earlier, then she's doing a good deed, right?

ROFL

I've always found it amusing that if people actually obeyed laws such as speeding, then police departments would actually go broke. If people would actually drive the speed limit for several months, and avoid other minor violations, then our police force would be faced with a dire financial situation. The majority of law enforcement these days has become nothing more than establishing financial sustainability for themselves. Public safety hasn't been the main priority of law enforcement for a long long time.

KILLER_CLOWN
07-02-2012, 01:52 PM
From a policy perspective, the goal of speed enforcement is to get people to slow down. If she's accomplishing that a few hundred feet earlier, then she's doing a good deed, right?

How does that line the cities coffers? so no, bad girl indeed.

Amnorix
07-02-2012, 03:40 PM
Potential violation of her 1st and 4th amendment rights. Of course, she will be let go (charges dismissed) and if she files suit nothing will happen (no Section 1983 "shocks the conscience" civil rights violation here, if memory serves as to the requirements to win in such a case).

Backwards Masking
07-02-2012, 06:39 PM
From a policy perspective, the goal of speed enforcement is to get people to slow down. If she's accomplishing that a few hundred feet earlier, then she's doing a good deed, right?

for a much cheaper price.

i always wanted to paint lifesize cardboard cutouts of cop cars and place them strategically around the city as an experiment. Million bucks says it would slow people down just as much (if not more) and cost a lot less than a $50K position with Crown Vic fees...

CoMoChief
07-02-2012, 06:43 PM
Nah I mean we don't live in a Police state.

In fact we need more cops!!! More federal officers!!!!! We need all the protection we can get!!! We don't need rights....FUCK the Bill of Rights!!!!

Al Qaeda is hiding under all of our beds and can strike us at any moment!!!

Bump
07-02-2012, 06:51 PM
Seriously, this just shows where our governments priorities are. Money, all that matters, nothing else.

Isn't the point of issuing tickets to get people to drive the speed limit?

Is this lady not getting people to slow down? Isn't that the ultimate point? No, it's not. You fuck with the money, you pay the price.