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Chiefshrink
07-03-2012, 11:33 PM
Obama’s Sodomite Past Comes Back To Haunt Him

Wayne Madsen – Wayne Madsen Report via Truth in Our Time
Wayne Madsen is a Washington, DC-based investigative journalist, author and syndicated columnist. He has written for several renowned papers and blogs.

As a U.S. Naval Officer, he managed one of the first computer security programs for the U.S. Navy. He subsequently worked for the National Security Agency, the Naval Data Automation Command, Department of State, RCA Corporation, and Computer Sciences Corporation.

He has been a frequent political and national security commentator on Fox News and has also appeared on ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, CNN, BBC, Al Jazeera, and MS-NBC. Madsen has taken on Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity on their television shows. He has been invited to testifty as a witness before the US House of Representatives, the UN Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda, and an terrorism investigation panel of the French government.

Madsen is a member of the Society of Professional Journalists (SPJ), Association for Intelligence Officers (AFIO), and the National Press Club.



Feb. 23, 2012

(Oct. 2, 2010)

President Obama and his chief of staff Rahm Emanuel are lifetime members of the same gay bath house in uptown Chicago, according to informed sources in Chicago’s gay community, as well as veteran political sources in the city.
The bath house, Man’s Country, caters to older white men and it has been in business for some 30 years and is known as one of uptown Chicago’s “grand old bathhouses.” WMR was told by sources who are familiar with the bath house that it provides one-year “lifetime” memberships to paying customers and that the club’s computerized files and pre-computer paper files, include membership information for both Obama and Emanuel. The data is as anonymized as possible for confidentiality purposes. However, sources close to “Man’s Country” believe the U.S. Secret Service has purged the computer and filing cabinet files of the membership data on Obama and Emanuel.
Members of Man’s Country are also issued club identification cards. WMR learned that Obama and Emanuel possessed the ID cards, which were required for entry.

Obama began frequenting Man’s Country in the mid-1990s, during the time he transitioned from a lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School to his election as an Illinois State Senator in 1996. Emanuel, reportedly joined Man’s Country after he left the Clinton White Hosue and moved back to Chicago in 1998, joining the investment firm of Wasserstein Perella and maintaining his membership during his 2002 campaign for the U.S. 5th District House seat vacated by Rod Blagojevich, who was elected governor.
Man’s Country appears to be a “one stop shopping” center for gay men. The club’s website advertises steam rooms, “fantasy rooms,” bed rooms, male strippers, adult movies, and lockers.

However, Man’s Country was not the only location for Obama’s predatory gay sex activities. The Chicago gay community is aware that Obama often made contacts with younger men at his famous “pick-up basketball” games. It was at these “pick up” matches where Obama first met Emanuel and a young Democratic campaign worker and senior bank vice president named Alexi Giannoulias. Currently running for Obama’s old U.S. Senate seat now occupied by Roland Burris, Giannoulias successfully ran for Illinois Treasurer in 2006 after being drafted for the run by Chicago’s Democratic machine.

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Giannoulias was a vice president and senior loan officer for his father’s bank, Broadway Bank, from 2002 to 2006. Broadway Bank made real estate loans to Antoin “Tony” Rezko, the chief of Rezmar Corporation. On May 13, 2008, Rezko was found guilty, after being indicted by a grand jury at the behest of the U.S. Attorney for Northern Illinois Patrick J. Fitzgerald, of six counts of wire fraud, six counts of mail fraud, two counts of corrupt solicitation, and two counts of money laundering. Rezko has been in solitary confinement at the Metropolitan Detention Center at Van Buren and Clark in Chicago since June 2008. However, Rezko has not yet been officially sentenced to a federal prison. A Syrian-American, Rezko is considered to be a flight risk, even though his one-time fortune of $50 million has been reduced to zero.

One Republican politician in Chicago told WMR that Rezko will be a prime witness for Blagojevich’s defense. “Figure it this way, Rezko’s been in solitary confinement in the city jail since June 0f 2008 . . . if he is released to appear at Blagojevich’s trial as the primary witness, everyone expects him to squeal like a pig,” said the Republican politico.

In 2005, Rezko reportedly engaged in a complicated real estate “flip” through which his wife Rita and Obama agreed to split an empty lot adjoining a home that Obama bought in Chicago’s Kenwood district. The deal saw Obama buy the home for $1.65 million, which was $300,00 below market value. Obama then bought a strip of the adjoining property from Mrs. Rezko, a speculative deal that stood to make Obama a handsome profit. Since Rezko’s conviction, the property has has reportedly gone into bankruptcy. Giannoulias’s Broadway Bank was seized by the Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation on April 23, 2010, reportedly as Secretary of Treasury Tim Geithner was on his way to Chicago to present the bank with a bailout check. Geithner quickly changed his plans.

Giannoulias, Broadway’s then-senior loan officer, has denied being involved in the decision to loan money to Rezko.
Blagojevich’s trial judge, U.S. District Court judge James Zagel, a crony of former Illinois Republican Governor Jim Thompson, ruled that all 500 hours of phone calls intercepted and taped by Fitzgerald could not be played during Blagojevich’s trial as demanded by Blagojevich and his defense lawyers. Blagojevich demanded that Fitzgerald “show up in court and explain to everybody . . . why you don’t want those tapes that you made played in court.”
WMR has learned that the tapes may contain salty references Obama’s and Emanuel’s private lives.

WMR attempted to interview Blagojevich’s senior defense lawyer Sam Adam to no avail but other informed sources told us that the tapes, if played, would highlight the corruption of not only Obama, Emanuel, and other member of Obama’s Chicago “brain trust” but also Fitzgerald himself. WMR was told that Fitzgerald’s tactics have included providing sex and drugs to imprisoned felons to get them to provide perjured testimony at federal trials.
It is exactly the type of federal prosecutorial misconduct by Fitzgerald that former Republican Governor said was used by state prosecutors when he commuted the death sentences of Illinois’s death row population. Ryan was indicted by Fitzgerald for fraud and he is currently serving out a federal prison sentence.

Blagojevich’s trial was scheduled to begin on June 3 and Fitzgerald’s main interest was to keep the trial focused on Blagojevich, especially after he managed to “flip” Blagojevich’s former chief of staff John Harris to testify against the impeached and ousted governor. WMR learned from informed sources that one lawyer on Harris’s defense team is involved in a gay partner scandal that was discovered by the attorney’s wife.

Some of the wiretaps may reveal that it was not Valerie Jarrett, Obama’s longtime friend and current White House policy adviser who was Obama’s top candidate to fill his U.S. Senate seat, but the young 32-year old “pick up basketball” friend of Obama, Giannoulias, then serving his second year as state Treasurer. However, Obama had avoided campaigning for Giannoulias in Illinois and there were initial indications that the president had “thrown Giannoulias under the bus,” according to some Democratic political circles in Chicago. However, Obama has since had a change of heart and began to campaign for him.

Mutiple Chicago sources report that Republicans who see Giannoulias’s Obama connections as providing an edge in his Senate race this year should not celebrate prematurely. Giannoulias’s GOP opponent, U.S. Representative Mark Kirk, a Naval Reserve intelligence officer, has also been identified as a closeted gay man. Kirk divorced his wife last year after an eight-year marriage. They had no children.

In addition, U.S. Representative Aaron Shock, who took over the House seat vacated by Obama’s Republican Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, is, according to Chicago Boy’s Town sources, a habitué of Minibar, a noted gay bar in Chicago’s gay district. For an extremely young first term member of the House, observers were surprised when GOP Minority Whip Eric Cantor of Virginia named Shock as a Deputy Minority Whip.
Man’s Country, one of Chicago’s “grand old bathhouses” and located at 5015 North Clark Street in Chicago’s “Boystown,” was a frequent hangout for State Senator Obama and Rahm Emanuel

Sources in Chicago’s gay community report that Obama was attracted to Man’s Country’s older white clientele because he generally enjoys being fellated by older white men. Obama would regularly be seen at Man’s Country on Wednesdays.
Obama reportedly has never engaged in reciprocal activity. The sources also confirm the allegations made during the 2008 campaign by Larry Sinclair, a Chicago visitor who revealed that in 1999 he engaged in such oral sex activity and crack cocaine use with then-State senator Obama on two occasions, once in the back of a Chicago limousine operated by Five Star Limousine Service, and the other at a Chicago area motel, the Comfort Suites in Gurnee, Illinois.

After revealing details of the encounter at a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, Sinclair was arrested by Washington Metropolitan Police on a fugitive warrant issued by Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, the son of Obama’s vice presidential running mate, Senator Joe Biden. Sinclair was charged with a misdemeanor count of theft of money orders, however, the state of Delaware declined prosecution. Beau Biden later declined to run for his father’s old Senate seat because of his duties to prosecute a major pedophilia case involving Lewes, Delaware pediatrician Dr. Earl Bradley. There are reports that Biden’s office helped to cover up Bradley’s activities, including failing to authorize search warants for Bradley’s office and computer.

WMR spoke to several well-placed sources in Chicago who reported that Jeremiah Wright, the pastor of Obama’s former church of 20 years, Trinity United Church of Christ (TUCC) on Chicago’s south side, ran what was essentially a matchmaking service for gay married black professional members of the church, including lawyers and businessmen, particularly those with children. The matchmaking club was called the “Down Low Club” but references to it over the phone and email simply referred to the group with the code phrase “DLC.” The ruse, according to our sources, was to make anyone who was eavesdropping on the communications believe that the references were to the Democratic Leadership Council, also known as the DLC.

The gay DLC’s services were intended to keep ensure TUCC’s gay members avoided posting solicitations on web services like Craig’s List and refrain from cruising gay bars. The strategy was to protect them from getting busted and being “outed.”Among the members of the gay “DLC” were Obama and TUCC’s choir director, Donald Young, an openly gay man who reportedly had a sexual relationship with Obama. Two other gay members of the church were Larry Bland and Nate Spencer. Young and Bland were brutally murdered, execution style, in late 2007. Bland was murdered on November 17, 2007 and Young on December 24, 2007. The latter was killed by multiple gunshot wounds. Spencer reportedly died on December 26, 2007, official cause of death: “septicemia, pneumonia, and HIV.”
“DLC” members often went on camping trips arranged by TUCC. Wright reportedly was the head of the “DLC” matchmaking services and ensured that its members protected each other.

The “DLC’s” clientele included Obama and other gay members of TUCC, including, reportedly Young, Bland, and Spencer. Fox 32 Chicago reported that Bland’s mother, Josephine Bland, was so upset at her son inviting men into their home as a result of contacting them through gay web sites like “Adam4Adam,” she moved out.
The gay community in Chicago knows to keep away from the TUCC and “DLC” stories because of the “creepiness” of the operation and the suspicious deaths of the three TUCC gay black men.
Although Obama protected his alternate life style through the secretiveness of the “DLC,” he was not so careful when he proclaimed he was a state senator while frolicking at Man’s Country in uptown Chicago.

Love: Obama’s personal trainer

Reggie Love, a former Duke basketball and football player and unsuccessful National Basketball hopeful, currently serves as Obama’s personal trainer and White House “special assistant” — he has been called Obama’s “body man” – who receives a salary of $104,000 a year. Love is also reportedly one of Obama’s regular gay sex partners. Love joined Obama’s Senate staff in a senior staff position in 2006.
Media General’s tabloid, the National Enquirer, proffered a story last year about Michelle Obama being furious about the relationship between her husband and his “body man.” The Enquirer’s sister tabloid, The Globe, later floated a story about Obama having a relationship with a Democratic campaign official named Vera Baker. WMR has been told that this relationship was a clever ruse to throw off speculation about Obama’s actual past sex partners. Baker has apparently left the United States for relatively more obscurity in Martinique. Media General’s tabloids have scooped the mainstream media on sex scandals involving Bill Clinton and Gennifer Flowers and Monica Lewinsky, Tiger Woods, and John Edwards and Rielle Hunter.

WMR’s Chicago sources believe the Secret Service records of presidential candidate Obama’s activities in Chicago would show that Obama regularly arrived at Love’s Chicago residence at 9:00 am and departed at 9:15 am. Sources told WMR that while 15 minutes is much too short for a personal training exercise, it is ample time for fellatio.

Bill Frist, “Brokeback Mountain,” and Obama

In 2006, after Obama became the junior senator from Illinois, WMR’s sources in the Congressional Black Caucus reported that there were persistent rumors of gay trysts between Obama and then-GOP Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee. The allegations at the time seemed unbelievable.
However, based on Obama’s penchant for receiving fellatio from older white men, a column written by The Washington Post’s “In the Loop” columnist Al Kamen on April 7, 2006, some four months into Obama’s Senate term, may have expanded relevance. Kamen reported he received an invitation to attend Frist’s “5th Annual VOLPAC ’06 Weekend” in Nashville from April 21st to 23rd and that the invitation card required one to “unbuckle the cowboy’s pants and look inside to see what this was all about.” Kamen opined that the invitation seemed “a bit too ‘Brokeback Mountain.’”

The invitation advertised that the shindig would feature “one-of-a-kind music and special friends,” although Kamen said there was no indication what made the “friends” so “special.” Kamen then wrote, “The back of the card shows the cowboy from behind with a red flowered handkerchief sticking out of his right pocket. Wait a minute — wasn’t there something about how this used to be some kind of code in the gay community years ago? A way to signal each other in crowded, noisy bars? So we checked the GayCityUSA.com’s Hanky Codes. Sure enough, there it was in the chart explaining what they mean: red hanky in right pocket. Oh, dear.”
Rumors about Obama and Frist ran amok in Congressional Black Caucus circles in 2006.

Although Frist ran on the pledge of only serving two terms, he became Senate Majority Leader with all the perks of the office. WMR’s sources in Chicago’s gay community revealed that Frist’s Majority Leader predecessor, Senator Trent Lott of Mississippi, was also known to seek the services of male prostitutes. Frist, who said he planned to run for President in 2006, decided against a run for the White House and also declined a run for Tennessee governor in 2010.

With the rumor mill running at full speed in 2006, it is obvious why Frist abandoned politics so quickly for the medical business. Frist later endorsed Obama’s health care proposals. A year later, when GOP Senator Larry Craig was arrested while soliciting for sex in a men’s toilet stall at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, he changed his mind about immediately resigning his Senate seat. Knowing about his colleagues’ behavior, he dug in his heels and completed his term in January 2009.

Rahm the “Sugar Daddy”

Obama’s chief of staff Emanuel, who won a scholarship to the Joffrey Ballet but turned it down to attend college, is married and, like Obama, has children, in Emanuel’s case, a son and two daughters.
However, Emanuel, who is 50, also travel frequently with a male companion, a wealthy Chicago real estate developer, some five to six years his senior. WMR has learned from Chicago’s gay community as well as political sources that Emanuel and his friend have gone together on a trip to India, skiing vacations, and soon plan a vacation in Florida, sans Mrs. Emanuel and the kids.
In Chicago’s gay community, Emanuel is known as “sugar daddy,” promising young men with perks and lucrative positions if they sleep with him. On occasion, Emanuel has been with older men, such as his travel companion, but his preference is young, according to WMR’s sources. Emanuel also often uses bicycling and basketball venues to make his approaches. Being an Emanuel “basketball buddy” is a key to professional success.

WMR spoke to one member of the gay community in Chicago who had first hand knowledge of one of Emanuel’s bed partners, an older man who runs a non-profit symphony organization.
Obama’s other sex partners
WMR has previously reported on Obama’s past trysts with Alabama Democratic U.S. Representative Artur Davis, a current primary candidate for governor of Alabama. Although not in the same class, Obama and Davis attended Harvard Law School during an overlap of their attendance at the law school.

The information on Davis and Obama was gathered by opposition researchers for former Alabama Representative Earl Hilliard, who Davis defeated in the 2002 Democratic primary. Recently, WMR was informed by sources in Alabama that Attorney General Eric Holder traveled three days ago to Alabama to inform Davis that if he loses his primary race, he would be nominated by Obama to fill the job of U.S. Attorney for the Middle District of Alabama, a position still held by Bush-appointee Leura Canary, one of the main prosecutors of convicted and jailed former Alabama Democratic Governor Don Siegelman.

Chicago sources also informed WMR of another past gay partner of Obama, Massachusetts Democratic Governor Deval Patrick.

Men who have reportedly had sexual relations with Barack Obama

Donald Young, TUCC Choir director
Larry Sinclair, gay escort
Reggie Love, White House presidential assistant and Obama’s “body man”
Artur Davis, US Representative from Alabama and gubernatorial candidate
Bill Frist, former GOP Senate Majority Leader
Deval Patrick, Governor of Massachusetts

http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/government/obama_government/news.php?q=1330018749

Mr. Kotter
07-03-2012, 11:41 PM
:spock:

If you had any question as to why you are a COMPLETE joke around, here...

I offer "Exhibit A."

LMAO LMAO LMAO

Reaper16
07-03-2012, 11:44 PM
Welp, I just changed my mind about the election. I'm now voting for Obama.

Brock
07-03-2012, 11:44 PM
GAYME CHANGER

Pitt Gorilla
07-04-2012, 12:02 AM
GAYME CHANGERROFL. Flawless victory.

Brock
07-04-2012, 12:05 AM
Well, this should get the people who aren't going to vote for him not to vote for him.

BigMeatballDave
07-04-2012, 12:07 AM
No Homo

SNR
07-04-2012, 12:11 AM
http://www.meh.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/meh.ro5830a.jpg

cosmo20002
07-04-2012, 12:14 AM
"Sources told WMR that while 15 minutes is much too short for a personal training exercise, it is ample time for fellatio."

They needed a source to confirm what could be done in 15 minutes. ROFL

Pawnmower
07-04-2012, 12:19 AM
NTTAWWT

Dave Lane
07-04-2012, 12:21 AM
:spock:

If you had any question as to why you are a COMPLETE joke around, here...

I offer "Exhibit A."

LMAO LMAO LMAO

That would be exhibit ZZZZZZZAZ

Seriously this is like a 2-3 times a week phenomena.

mlyonsd
07-04-2012, 12:23 AM
Good grief ss. Quit being a tool.

|Zach|
07-04-2012, 12:24 AM
Well, this should get the people who aren't going to vote for him not to vote for him.

:LOL:

|Zach|
07-04-2012, 12:25 AM
Obama’s Sodomite Past Comes Back To Haunt Him


I am intrigued by this information and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

mikey23545
07-04-2012, 12:40 AM
I am as anti-Obama as any human alive, and I think this is one of the most shameful articles I've ever seen.

I believe he is one of the most disgusting people to ever hold the office of POTUS, but it damn sure wouldn't have anything to do with his sexual preference.

cosmo20002
07-04-2012, 01:41 AM
For all of you liberal sheep that think the article is false, either prove that it isn't or you got nuthin.

/ Iz Zat Chew

Ebolapox
07-04-2012, 02:03 AM
lol wut?

Psyko Tek
07-04-2012, 02:12 AM
For all of you liberal sheep that think the article is false, either prove that it isn't or you got nuthin.

/ Iz Zat Chew

bad argument
Mitt, eats babies from abortions
and has sex with sheep

prove me wrong



well got any proof yet?
didn't think so

please keep away from sharp objects, fire arms and heavy machinery

and watch out for chop sticks
they have pointy ends. in fact forks are worse
eat with a spoon
the us of a is really deserving to die
you morons are killing it

yes urine idiot
or
yourand idiot
and jebus get a vasectomy maybe 3
sportsshrink is a usual moron but you believing this ????
hey the raiders need more fans

listopencil
07-04-2012, 03:40 AM
Once again, the great white hunter has returned from an imaginary safari, bearing the fruits of his labor. Bravely he pretends to throw an animal pelt to the ground and present his invisible trophy. Feel the mighty oaks tremble in resonance with his battle cry!

http://cache2.allpostersimages.com/p/LRG/12/1253/A88T000Z/posters/arma-tom-imaginary-safari-giraffe.jpg

patteeu
07-04-2012, 06:47 AM
I'm most concerned that Bill Frist was collaborating with him.

Iz Zat Chew
07-04-2012, 09:02 AM
For all of you liberal sheep that think the article is false, either prove that it isn't or you got nuthin.

/ Iz Zat Chew

It's amazing that I can be included in a thread that I've yet to post in.

Someone said that Obama is basically a POS president and it has nothing to do with sexual orientation. I agree with that.

It also has nothing to do with his race.

Cosmo probably has the same membership card that Obama has, just for his local branch.

Iz Zat Chew
07-04-2012, 09:04 AM
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07-04-2012, 10:03 AM
I am as anti-Obama as any human alive, and I think this is one of the most shameful articles I've ever seen.

I believe he is one of the most disgusting people to ever hold the office of POTUS, but it damn sure wouldn't have anything to do with his sexual preference.

+1

LVNHACK
07-04-2012, 10:11 AM
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I believe he is one of the most disgusting people to ever hold the office of POTUS, but it damn sure wouldn't have anything to do with his sexual preference.

x 1000

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Do not for a moment believe that the Year 2000 computer "glitch" is not tied to the Bolshevik Zionists' "Project Z" war plan. It not only is tied to it, it IS THE PLAN. Since the United States lost the space battle with the Russians in September of 1977, which started with the destruction of U.S. surveillance satellites over Russia, the "taking out" of two MANNED installations on the Moon, the downing of Skylab with FIVE ASTRONAUTS ABOARD, and culminating with the sweeping of the skies of the remainder of your surveillance and early-warning satellites, the Bolshevik warlords have been trying to retaliate against the new Christian anti-Bolshevik rulers of the Kremlin. A worldwide computer failure is just the ticket to plausibly launch the attack.

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The y2k computer bug is the failsafe mechanism to start a war. As Russian (!?!) and American officers huddle in your Aerospace Command and Control centers deep underground in the Cheyenne Mountains (and other locations) preparing to control the aftermath of nuclear war on U.S. soil, no one is telling the American people what everyone else in the world already knows.

While you ones go about doing nothing, hoping some miracle will save you without any effort on your part--or worse, refusing to believe that such a thing could conceivably be done to so many innocent people--your traitorous leaders have signed over your very souls to the death merchants. On web sites such as Art Bell, ones are beginning to stock-up on offered foodstuffs and other survival gear. BUT IF YOU HAVE NO PLACE TO PUT THEM THAT IS PROTECTED FROM HARM AND EASILY ACCESSIBLE, IT IS USELESS. The mouthpieces in the controlled major media are giving you all the clues you need BY TELLING YOU "NOT TO WORRY...TOO MUCH." Chelas, they do not want you to prepare because they want you completely off-guard and confused so that, when the lights go out for good, you will be as helpless as the sheep being herded to slaughter.
Computer and Internet systems will indeed crash. AND WITH ALL YOUR ASSETS GONE AND NO WAY TO DECIDE WHAT HAS REAL BARTER VALUE, F.E.M.A. TAKES OVER AND, WITHIN THE HOUR, YOUR ONCE GREAT NATION BECOMES A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. And you will accept those terms, if need be, through the persuasion of UN "peacekeepers" and their assault weapons, training right now on U.S. soil and south of your border.

America is only as great as her perceived financial stability, and when that is gone, all your enemies wearing false smiles and bowing and scraping will turn on you, walking right along in step with the UN mercenary forces. If or when America dies, those who helped to kill her will also be destroyed as the beast turns and devours them. Remember, Satan has no qualms about eating his own.

Computers are wondrous tools. However, in the claws of the New World Order conspirators, they ARE the Beast of Revelation and you'd best take this portion of your Bible most seriously. The rest of the Bible is nothing more than tampered and revised works by the descendants of kings and monarchs--since when has ANY ruler cared about the sovereignty of the people? Their goal has always been to amass as much power and gold as their greedy hearts could bleed from the people; now suddenly, in this "new" age, is it feasible that your ancient-current nobility has abandoned all they've worked toward for so many centuries?!?

If you do not stop this mad dash to war (allies and enemies alike are armed with small and incredibly destructive atomic weapons), you are going to manifest the only outcome to a third world war. If that is what man's evolution is to be at this passage in his experience of Earth-Shan, then so be it; however, you do have a choice. You can work with God to preserve your planet and your people, or you can do nothing and allow Lucifer's servants to make what remains of your soon-to-be short lives a most unpleasant experience.

May the Love of God and The Creation and the future of your children's children guide your action, for in the end it is your intentions that are looked at most carefully by God. Korton to clear, please. Salu.

Rain Man
07-04-2012, 10:33 AM
This guy likes Coca Puffs.

http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1334698390

In the US, JP Morgan is a Rothschild front.

The Rockefeller family syndicate uses Goldman Sachs and Citibank as its major financial fronts. Bank of America is a front for the Italian black nobility behind the Vatican and the mafia, run in part by Peter Hans Kolvenbach, the former black pope. Pope malevolent the 16th is also a senior member of this satanic group.

The Nazi faction is run by Fuhrer George Bush Senior with Ben Bernanke acting as Deputy Fuhrer. Their chemical and pharmaceutical mass murder division is run by the Du Pont family.


The Bill and Melinda Gates foundation is now in Africa forcing families at gunpoint to accept the sterilization by vaccine of their daughters. In North America, Japan and elsewhere the mass sterilization by vaccine is taking place under the guise of protecting girls against cervical cancer. Message to Bill Gates: your company and foundation are going to be confiscated and you are going to spend the rest of your life making restitution.

The United States government has been so compromised by these and other cabal families and their foundation fronts that the upcoming US Presidential “election,” is nothing more than a power struggle between the Chicago mob and their front man Mitt Romney versus the Bush Texas illegal drug mafia and their guy Jeb Bush.


Hopefully the new financial system, once it is fully implemented, will pull the plug on the entire farcical show and Americans will be able to choose their own leaders based on true information provided by free media. For now though, electronically rigged elections and corporate propaganda provide sham democracy for dumbed down and drugged up Americans.

However, a look at the pentagon budget for this upcoming year shows they have dedicated plenty of resources to financing reserve troop units inside the United States. This does not mean they are preparing to put average Americans into FEMA camps as feared by many. To the contrary, they are preparing for a mass round up of cabal agents and proxies, according to pentagon and CIA sources.

There was a clear indication of change on March 20th, when instead of having the cabal scheduled earthquake hit Tokyo, a magnitude 7.4 earthquake hit Oaxaca, Mexico exactly when President Obama’s daughter was vacationing there. Furthermore, this earthquake was advertised in advance through pamphlets distributed locally. This is a clear sign the bad guys no longer play the HAARP.


Another sign of change was the public rebuke of Obama, Clinton and cabal controlled media outlets when the official Chinese government news site, Xinhua stated that North Korea was not on the agenda of the 50 nation nuclear security summit taking place in Soeul [Seoul], Korea this week. The cabal propaganda media has been carrying a fake story about nuclear danger from North Korea even though that country has already announced it will cease nuclear weapons development.

The secret agenda behind this 50 nation summit is an attempt to steal 200 tons of gold that is in South Korean warehouses. That theft is not going to be allowed to go ahead so the cabalists will leave the summit empty handed.

There was also plenty of speculation about a coup d’etat in China last week. All that happened was that a Maoist cabal agent Bo Xilai was removed from power after one of his henchmen was discovered taking instructions from the US consulate in Chongqing, according to MI6 sources. China is still on course for a stable and harmonious regime change-over later this year, according to White Dragon Society sources. The talk of a Maoist coup d’etat was wishful cabalist thinking fanned by cabalist media outlets.
Speaking about fake stories, the “White Hats” group on the internet, consisting of Bush agent Mike Cotrell and Hawaii resident Danny Gammage, has been spewing out laughable libel (such as this writer is a clone).

More damagingly, they managed to fool Lord Blackheath of the UK Upper House of Parliament with a fake story about $15 trillion that he raised in Parliamentary session. The House of Lords is now going to summon a White Dragon Society ally to testify about what is really going on in the financial wars.

The London financial district is headed for further purges and the talk is that Lord Sassoon is headed for a big fall. The investigation may even extend to the UK Royal family, European CIA sources say.

In Japan, meanwhile, the status quo is expected to remain on hold until the March 31st end of the fiscal year because of overwhelming workloads in the bureaucracy and the parliament. After March 31st, there will be concrete negotiations taking place involving the Finance Ministry, Bank of Japan, Prime Minister’s office and Royal Household Agency aimed at setting up a new international economic planning agency.

The Japanese self-defense forces and bureaucracy are also planning a major purge of cabalist puppets in the Japanese Parliament, banks, corporations and media.

Overall, things are looking very good. However, unless we see these senior cabalists on world TV confessing to their crimes, we must not be complacent. Until this financial war is over, keep your powder dry and stay alert.

I’ll be very glad to see all this happen, as I know many of you will too. I’ve had enough of these gangsters and would love to live in a world free of wars, were peace reigns in every country. Drake speaks of them airing the entire history of these Illuminati gangsters on a dedicated television channel after all these arrests happen and the new government is in place. I look forward to learning about all their hidden secrets and hope that the rest of the sheep in America wake up and watch this channel instead of mindless trash that’s on TV right now.

While I don’t let what other people think of me bother me, I will get some satisfaction when those “non-believers” see it all on “Main Stream News” and I can smile and say “I told you so”…. LOL! Yes, there are aliens… yes, there are people called the Illuminati… and yes, you really are being posioned by them with chemtrails, floride, processed foods, prescription drugs, electromagnetic low frequencies (ELF’s), and yeah… there really is a secret space program based in Area 51 where we have over a 100 spaceships and go to Mars and the Moon all the time.

|Zach|
07-04-2012, 10:35 AM
There is really only one thing everyone in this forum agrees on. sportshrink is bat shit crazy.

Rain Man
07-04-2012, 10:41 AM
There is really only one thing everyone in this forum agrees on. sportshrink is bat shit crazy.

Maybe you're just not being openminded enough about the Illuminati conspiracies and the secret Nazi camps and the bases on Mars. Let's try reading that web site with an open mind and see if perhaps we change our thinking.

|Zach|
07-04-2012, 10:47 AM
Maybe you're just not being openminded enough about the Illuminati conspiracies and the secret Nazi camps and the bases on Mars. Let's try reading that web site with an open mind and see if perhaps we change our thinking.

I have a new favorite.

http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/government/obama_government/news.php?q=1319241822

-King-
07-04-2012, 10:48 AM
ROFL @ Those articles Rain Man posted.
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Captain Obvious
07-05-2012, 09:39 PM
This SS thread is severely lacking in SS catch-phrase/jargon/babble.

:thumb:

Setsuna
07-05-2012, 10:18 PM
If it's fact, I don't see the problem.

|Zach|
07-05-2012, 10:20 PM
If it's fact, I don't see the problem.

If what is a fact.

Setsuna
07-05-2012, 10:27 PM
If what is a fact.

His membership there.

|Zach|
07-05-2012, 10:38 PM
His membership there.

ok.

Brock
07-05-2012, 10:50 PM
Just another sportshrink "light the fuse and run" thread. You mentally unbalanced pussy.

SNR
07-05-2012, 11:27 PM
Just another sportshrink "light the fuse and run" thread. You mentally unbalanced pussy.
I'd like to think that years on Chiefs Planet have finally caught up to him and he's finally making primitive attempts at troll humor.

That would be assuming the best, however.

Setsuna
07-05-2012, 11:30 PM
ok.

Ok.

Chiefshrink
07-06-2012, 09:17 AM
Ok.

Precisely.

The 'composite girlfriends' make sense now.

Obama 'always' hiding something:rolleyes:

vailpass
07-06-2012, 10:51 AM
If I was married to that ass-ugly wookie michelle I might hit the bathhouse too. Get me something with a little less hair on it.

La literatura
07-06-2012, 10:58 AM
I had a six month affair with Barack Obama in 2002. I wrote about it in my e-book memoir, "Dreams From My Kenyan Lover."

vailpass
07-06-2012, 11:12 AM
I had a six month affair with Barack Obama in 2002. I wrote about it in my e-book memoir, "Dreams From My Kenyan Lover."

LMAO

I thought that was "Dreams of my Baby Daddy"

Chiefshrink
07-06-2012, 04:07 PM
If I was married to that ass-ugly wookie michelle I might hit the bathhouse too. Get me something with a little less hair on it.

Well, at least we know for sure that one thing Michelle doesn't like besides America:D

mikey23545
07-06-2012, 04:21 PM
Some poor person is this guy's next door neighbor and has to deal with this stuff every day.

http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/spiritual/specific_channelings/korton/news.php?q=1341089475

Y2K IS THE PLAN OF PLANS

Do not for a moment believe that the Year 2000 computer "glitch" is not tied to the Bolshevik Zionists' "Project Z" war plan. It not only is tied to it, it IS THE PLAN. Since the United States lost the space battle with the Russians in September of 1977, which started with the destruction of U.S. surveillance satellites over Russia, the "taking out" of two MANNED installations on the Moon, the downing of Skylab with FIVE ASTRONAUTS ABOARD, and culminating with the sweeping of the skies of the remainder of your surveillance and early-warning satellites, the Bolshevik warlords have been trying to retaliate against the new Christian anti-Bolshevik rulers of the Kremlin. A worldwide computer failure is just the ticket to plausibly launch the attack.

Large corporations, especially those owned by the Japanese, plan everything they intend to do years and even decades in advance, and their computer systems are no exception. Rockefeller interests have been in control of world commerce as relates to the U.S. for more than a hundred years, and SONY, a Rockefeller company (SONY stands for Standard Oil of New York) is the epitome of "elite" corporate efficiency.

The y2k computer bug is the failsafe mechanism to start a war. As Russian (!?!) and American officers huddle in your Aerospace Command and Control centers deep underground in the Cheyenne Mountains (and other locations) preparing to control the aftermath of nuclear war on U.S. soil, no one is telling the American people what everyone else in the world already knows.

While you ones go about doing nothing, hoping some miracle will save you without any effort on your part--or worse, refusing to believe that such a thing could conceivably be done to so many innocent people--your traitorous leaders have signed over your very souls to the death merchants. On web sites such as Art Bell, ones are beginning to stock-up on offered foodstuffs and other survival gear. BUT IF YOU HAVE NO PLACE TO PUT THEM THAT IS PROTECTED FROM HARM AND EASILY ACCESSIBLE, IT IS USELESS. The mouthpieces in the controlled major media are giving you all the clues you need BY TELLING YOU "NOT TO WORRY...TOO MUCH." Chelas, they do not want you to prepare because they want you completely off-guard and confused so that, when the lights go out for good, you will be as helpless as the sheep being herded to slaughter.
Computer and Internet systems will indeed crash. AND WITH ALL YOUR ASSETS GONE AND NO WAY TO DECIDE WHAT HAS REAL BARTER VALUE, F.E.M.A. TAKES OVER AND, WITHIN THE HOUR, YOUR ONCE GREAT NATION BECOMES A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. And you will accept those terms, if need be, through the persuasion of UN "peacekeepers" and their assault weapons, training right now on U.S. soil and south of your border.

America is only as great as her perceived financial stability, and when that is gone, all your enemies wearing false smiles and bowing and scraping will turn on you, walking right along in step with the UN mercenary forces. If or when America dies, those who helped to kill her will also be destroyed as the beast turns and devours them. Remember, Satan has no qualms about eating his own.

Computers are wondrous tools. However, in the claws of the New World Order conspirators, they ARE the Beast of Revelation and you'd best take this portion of your Bible most seriously. The rest of the Bible is nothing more than tampered and revised works by the descendants of kings and monarchs--since when has ANY ruler cared about the sovereignty of the people? Their goal has always been to amass as much power and gold as their greedy hearts could bleed from the people; now suddenly, in this "new" age, is it feasible that your ancient-current nobility has abandoned all they've worked toward for so many centuries?!?

If you do not stop this mad dash to war (allies and enemies alike are armed with small and incredibly destructive atomic weapons), you are going to manifest the only outcome to a third world war. If that is what man's evolution is to be at this passage in his experience of Earth-Shan, then so be it; however, you do have a choice. You can work with God to preserve your planet and your people, or you can do nothing and allow Lucifer's servants to make what remains of your soon-to-be short lives a most unpleasant experience.

May the Love of God and The Creation and the future of your children's children guide your action, for in the end it is your intentions that are looked at most carefully by God. Korton to clear, please. Salu.


Is it too late to do something about this Y2K thingie?

It sounds pretty damn scary.

greg63
07-06-2012, 11:38 PM
Hmmmmmm...Obama and older white men ?

His sexual orientation, preference, whatever you want to call it is of no interest to me.

Rain Man
07-07-2012, 12:02 AM
His sexual orientation, preference, whatever you want to call it is of no interest to me.

What about the website's reporting that he's an alien member of the Nazi party who has been using slave labor to build a massive POW base under Denver International Airport?

patteeu
07-07-2012, 07:07 AM
What about the website's reporting that he's an alien member of the Nazi party who has been using slave labor to build a massive POW base under Denver International Airport?

I'm sorry, I don't believe he's an alien. At least not the "from another planet" kind.

ILChief
07-07-2012, 08:07 AM
I expect the author to have his own show on FoxNews soon

greg63
07-07-2012, 12:34 PM
What about the website's reporting that he's an alien member of the Nazi party who has been using slave labor to build a massive POW base under Denver International Airport?

Now that's newsworthy right there! I hadn't yet read about that in the NationalInquirer.com!

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Chiefshrink
07-08-2012, 11:34 AM
I had a six month affair with Barack Obama in 2002. I wrote about it in my e-book memoir, "Dreams From My Kenyan Lover."

Finally you have come out of the closet:clap: Maybe you can hook up with 'greg' and have him show you his '63' positions of Man's Country love:shrug:

Brock
07-08-2012, 01:15 PM
Finally you have come out of the closet:clap: Maybe you can hook up with 'greg' and have him show you his '63' positions of Man's Country love:shrug:

Were you beating off when you wrote this?

Mr. Kotter
07-08-2012, 08:36 PM
Were you beating off when you wrote this?

Yep....sportsshrink's post reeks of Kleenex and Vasoline Intensive Care lotion. NTTAWWT

qabbaan
07-08-2012, 08:59 PM
I don't find it hard to believe given his family background and his political leanings that Obama may have been bisexual or may have experimented with gay sex in his younger days. I don't find that hard to believe.

I don't think it is verifiable obviously, and I don't think we need to waste time on it when his record as president is one of an unqualified failure.

cosmo20002
07-08-2012, 09:29 PM
I don't find it hard to believe given his family background

:facepalm:

I don't find it hard to believe given...his political leanings

:facepalm: :facepalm:

I don't think it is verifiable obviously

If it happened, it is verifiable.

Brock
07-08-2012, 09:32 PM
Unlike guys like Larry Craig(R) and Mark Foley(R), this is not verifiable for some reason. Which seems odd, given their family backgrounds and political leanings.

cosmo20002
07-08-2012, 09:34 PM
Unlike guys like Larry Craig(R) and Mark Foley(R), this is not verifiable for some reason. Which seems odd, given their family backgrounds and political leanings.

Maybe they were secretly socialist Muslim Kenyans, since most socialist Muslim Kenyans are apparently gay.

qabbaan
07-08-2012, 09:49 PM
:facepalm:



:facepalm: :facepalm:



If it happened, it is verifiable.

On point A, I mean the fact that he had an absent father.

As far as it being verifiable, how could you verify what someone's sexual activity was in the 70s or 80s was? You'd have to have someone who said they were a partner of his come forward, and you'd see if they really knew each other or if there was any reason to lend credibility to them. But you couldn't verify it. Even if there were photos of the two together and people said they saw them making out at a party your reaction would be "so what, this isn't news", and everyone else's would be "that doesn't prove anything." there could be nuts to butts photos with faces clearly shown and people would just say they're fakes. Why bother arguing about it? People believe whatever they like.

Like I said, I think it's a waste of time to discuss all this because there's no way to know, and I dont particularly csre, but I don't find it hard to believe.

Chiefshrink
07-08-2012, 09:51 PM
I don't find it hard to believe given his family background and his political leanings that Obama may have been bisexual or may have experimented with gay sex in his younger days. I don't find that hard to believe.

I don't think it is verifiable obviously, and I don't think we need to waste time on it when his record as president is one of an unqualified failure.

I get your point and to your point the MSMM never vetted this guy not only if he was qualified to lead the largest free economy in the world but more importantly who was and is ideologically so that we could have avoided this disastrous fraud we have in the WH.

Many here think I post so-called 'dramatic shit' for just 'shit sake' but I really don't. Where I have done my own analysis and research and then come across other grains of truth that make sense then I will post because many, many people in this country still don't know who this guy really is and what his dangerous agenda holds for America. Homo, or Bi what difference does it make? Some say it doesn't. I think it does from a characterological and integrity perspective as he continues to "lie and hide" especially over time as more info comes out on who he really is and what he stands for that the MSMM refused to vet. I'm just still vetting this guy.

Obama’s disturbing poem on man-boy relationship

Posted on May 1, 2012 by Dr. Eowyn

When Barack Obama was a 19-year-old student at Occidental College, he published two poems in the Spring 1982 issue of Occidental’s literary magazine, Feast. One is the cringe-worthy “Underground” about “apes that eat figs.” The other poem, “Pop,” is much more interesting, biographical, and disturbing.

“Pop”

Sitting in his seat, a seat broad and broken
In, sprinkled with ashes,
Pop switches channels, takes another
Shot of Seagrams, neat, and asks
What to do with me, a green young man
Who fails to consider the
Flim and flam of the world, since
Things have been easy for me;
I stare hard at his face, a stare
That deflects off his brow;
I’m sure he’s unaware of his
Dark, watery eyes, that
Glance in different directions,
And his slow, unwelcome twitches,
Fail to pass.
I listen, nod,
Listen, open, till I cling to his pale,
Beige T-shirt, yelling,
Yelling in his ears, that hang
With heavy lobes, but he’s still telling
His joke, so I ask why
He’s so unhappy, to which he replies…
But I don’t care anymore, cause
He took too damn long, and from
Under my seat, I pull out the
Mirror I’ve been saving; I’m laughing,
Laughing loud, the blood rushing from his face
To mine, as he grows small,
A spot in my brain, something
That may be squeezed out, like a
Watermelon seed between
Two fingers.
Pop takes another shot, neat,
Points out the same amber
Stain on his shorts that I’ve got on mine, and
Makes me smell his smell, coming
From me; he switches channels, recites an old poem
He wrote before his mother died,
Stands, shouts, and asks
For a hug, as I shrink, my
Arms barely reaching around
His thick, oily neck, and his broad back; ‘cause
I see my face, framed within
Pop’s black-framed glasses
And know he’s laughing too.

The poem reads autobiographical — about a young Obama’s relationship with a much older man whom he calls Pop. In his article for WND on March 7, 2012, Dr. Jack Cashill singles out this passage from the poem:

“Pop takes another shot, neat/ Points out the same amber/ Stain on his shorts that I’ve got on mine, and/ Makes me smell his smell, coming/ From me;”

Cashill writes that the most innocent explanation for the “amber stain” on the shorts of Pop and young Obama or “his smell, coming/ From me” is that Pop got the teenaged Obama drunk, and they both spilled whiskey (Seagrams) on themselves. But that interpretation does not explain why the spill is specifically on their shorts and not on their shirts or how Pop’s smell is also on (“from”) Obama.

A marriage and family therapist who blogs under the tag “Neo-Neocon” senses a darker relationship. She writes:

“The lines that begin ‘points out the same amber stain…Makes me smell his smell, coming/
From me’ may be describing outright sexual abuse. But perhaps not; we don’t know, and we’ll never know. But there is no question that the poem is describing a boundary violation on several levels: this child feels invaded—perhaps even taken over—by this man, and is fighting against that sensation.

[...] The poem describes a boundary violation that is both physical and mental. The physical is obvious: he is forced to hug the man who repels him, and as he does so he feels himself shrinking. But the violation is mental, too; earlier in the poem, Obama has described “Pop” as a person who has actually gotten into his brain, and whom he wishes to eliminate from it:

as he grows small,

A spot in my brain, something

That may be squeezed out, like a 

Watermelon seed between

Two fingers.

This mental and emotional usurpation of the young Obama is echoed in the last image of the poem, in which the boy sees his own tiny image framed in ‘Pop’s’ eyeglasses.
 The poem describes a struggle against an attempt at identity takeover, a rejection of being reduced to a reflection in the eyes of the stronger, older, more experienced mentor, who has tried to make Obama over in his own image:

I see my face, framed within
Pop’s black-framed glasses
…

The sight is chilling to Obama, who is trying to break free. One wonders if he ever fully succeeded.”

So who was Pop?
There were two older men in teen Obama’s life:

1. His maternal grandfather, Stanley Armour Dunham, with whom Obama had lived from age 10 to 18 in Honolulu. When Obama was ten years old, his mom, Stanley Ann Dunham, had sent him back to Hawaii to live with her parents while she remained in Indonesia.

2. Frank Marshall Davis, a black long-time friend of Stanley Armour Dunham, whom Dunham had introduced to young Obama to be the latter’s African-American mentor. Davis was a member of the American Communist Party, a writer of poetry and books, including the pornographic novel, Sex Rebel: Black, using the pseudonym “Bob Greene.” Cashill states that there is no doubt Davis wrote Sex Rebel because Davis admitted as much in his memoir, Livin’ the Blues: “I could not then truthfully deny that this book, which came out in 1968 as a Greenleaf Classic, was mine.”

During the presidential campaign season in 2008, I read Sex Rebel, which is out of print, by borrowing the book from the library of the University of California, Berkeley. I therefore can testify from having read the book that Sex Rebel is an account of the unorthodox sexual exploits of a black man “Bob Greene”. Those sexual exploits included marrying a white woman (just as Davis himself did, which was uncommon in the 1960s); “swinging” or wife-swapping with other couples; picking up prospective couples in public parks; sexual orgies; voyeurism; exhibitionism; bisexualism (Greene wrote that “under certain circumstances I am bisexual”); and the seduction by “Greene” and his white wife of a 13-year-old girl named Anne.

(It is the pedophilia that has prompted increasing speculation on the net that “Anne” was actually Stanley Ann Dunham, Obama’s mother; and that Frank Marshall Davis had sired Obama. That’s the reason why Obama conceals his birth certificate. This is the subject of a documentary movie that will come out this summer. For more information, go here.)

In the introduction to Sex Rebel, an alleged Ph.D. named Dale Gordon goes further. He describes the pseudonymous author, Bob Greene, as having “strong homosexual tendencies in his personality.”

There are those, like Rebecca Mead of The New Yorker, who say “Pop” is a “loving if slightly jaded portrait of Obama’s maternal grandfather.”

But both Jack Cashill and Neo-Neocon point out that Obama, in his memoir Dreams From My Father, called Stanley Armour Dunham not “Pop” but “Gramps.”

There are other reasons pointing to Frank Marshall Davis as “Pop”:
1. “Pop” wrote poetry: Dunham was a life-long furniture salesman whose literary efforts, if any, were confined to making up dirty limericks. In contrast, Davis had written several books of poetry — Black Man’s Verse (1935), I Am the American Negro (1937), Through Sepia Eyes (1938), 47th Street (1948), Awakening and Other Poems (1978).

2. A line in Obama’s poem “he switches channels, recites an old poem/ He wrote before his mother died” also points to Davis as “Pop”. Dunham’s mother died when he was 8 years old, whereas Davis’ mother died when he was 20 and already established as a poet of promise.

3. In his memoir Dreams From My Father, Obama’s description of a seedy and dissipated older man named Frank is strikingly similar to “Pop” in his poem:

“…by the time I met Frank [Obama was around nine years old] he must have been pushing eighty, with a big dewlapped face and an ill-kempt gray Afro that made him look like an old, shaggy-maned lion. He would read us his poetry whenever we stopped by his house, sharing whiskey with gramps out of an emptied jelly jar. As the night wore on, the two of them would solicit my help in composing dirty limericks. Eventually, the conservation would turn to laments about women.

“They’ll drive you to drink, boy,” Frank would tell me soberly. “And if you let ‘em, they’ll drive you into your grave.”

I was intrigued by the old Frank, with his books and whiskey breath and the hint of hard-earned knowledge behind the hooded eyes. The visits to his house always left me feeling vaguely uncomfortable, though, as if I were witnessing some complicated, unspoken transaction between the two men, a transaction I couldn’t fully understand….”

4. Davis fits the “seedy old man” description more than Dunham: Born in 1905, Davis was 56 years older than Obama and would be 66 years old when Obama was ten. Born in 1918, Dunham was 43 years older than Obama and would be a youngish 53 years old when Obama was ten.

Here are some photos I’ve found of Stanley Armour Dunham and Frank Marshall Davis. Decide for yourself which man better fits the physical description of Pop in Obama’s poem: “dark watery eyes”; “ears that hang with heavy lobes”; “thick, oily neck”; “broad back”; “black-framed glasses”.

Stanley Armour Dunham with child Obama (l); Dunham with 19-year-old Obama (r)

Frank Marshall Davis as a young man (l); as an old man (r)

Whether Pop was Davis or Dunham, this much is certain: His relationship with young Obama, as the latter described it in the poem “Pop,” was creepy and disturbingly suggestive of pederasty.

~Eowyn

Chiefshrink
07-08-2012, 09:54 PM
Unlike guys like Larry Craig(R) and Mark Foley(R), this is not verifiable for some reason. Which seems odd, given their family backgrounds and political leanings.

I agree with you Brock. Throw these guys in their as well because of their lack of integrity because like "O" they had something to hide as well and didn't come clean and had to get caught. But I will say that anytime gay Rs are caught it is far worse than if a Dem gay is caught because well you know the R's have always touted conservative values and Alinsky preaches that you use their own ideology against them and just hammer them. Dems don't tout any values other than well you know.....

Brock
07-08-2012, 10:00 PM
I agree with you Brock. Throw these guys in their as well because their lack of integrity because like "O" they had something to hide as well.

You keep saying Obama had something to hide, but provide nothing but nutbag evidence for it. We KNOW Craig and Foley were bonesmokers.

cosmo20002
07-08-2012, 10:04 PM
On point A, I mean the fact that he had an absent father.

As far as it being verifiable, how could you verify what someone's sexual activity was in the 70s or 80s was? You'd have to have someone who said they were a partner of his come forward, and you'd see if they really knew each other or if there was any reason to lend credibility to them. But you couldn't verify it. Even if there were photos of the two together and people said they saw them making out at a party your reaction would be "so what, this isn't news", and everyone else's would be "that doesn't prove anything." there could be nuts to butts photos with faces clearly shown and people would just say they're fakes. Why bother arguing about it? People believe whatever they like.

Like I said, I think it's a waste of time to discuss all this because there's no way to know, and I dont particularly csre, but I don't find it hard to believe.

Absent father means an inclination for homosexuality? :facepalm:
You also mentioned something about political leanings.

I just find it odd that someone would be "not surprised" if someone who was married with two kids, with no known hint of homosexuality in their past or present, turned out to be gay. Not saying that such a thing has never happened, but it would generally come as a surprise. But not to you--you wouldn't be surprised.

Basically, this indicates your irrational feelings towards Obama.

Chiefshrink
07-08-2012, 10:35 PM
You keep saying Obama had something to hide, but provide nothing but nutbag evidence for it. We KNOW Craig and Foley were bonesmokers.

Read the poem I posted. Maybe you already have. Throughout my years as a shrink I have counseled many homosexual men and not with the intentions to change them either but to listen and help with whatever problem they have.

I specialize in men's issues and I have counseled probably close to 40 homosexual men in my 20 plus yr career. Here is the dirty little secret that the MSMM and PC healthcare world don't like to talk about. IME(In my experience) with these 40 homosexual men, close to half were molested as young boys while the other half were not molested and feel they were born this way.

So when you hear the phrase that some 'homosexuality is learned' just know it is true but is 'learned' as a molesting situation as a young boy for some men, but not all.

Read the poem again and put your shrink hat on and you will clearly see violations.

Oh about hiding other stuff. Transcripts, grades, passports....etc....

cosmo20002
07-08-2012, 10:40 PM
Throughout my years as a shrink I have counseled many homosexual men and not with the intentions to change them either but to listen and help with whatever problem they have.

Whoa, you're actually a psychiatrist? You can prescribe meds? But...you're like freaking nuts. Holy shit.

Physician, heal thyself.

Brock
07-08-2012, 10:41 PM
Read the poem I posted. Maybe you already have. Throughout my years as a shrink I have counseled many homosexual men and not with the intentions to change them either but to listen and help with whatever problem they have.

I specialize in men's issues and I have counseled probably close to 40 homosexual men in my 20 plus yr career. Here is the dirty little secret that the MSMM and PC healthcare world don't like to talk about. IME(In my experience) with these 40 homosexual men, close to half were molested as young boys while the other half were not molested and feel they were born this way.

So when you hear the phrase that some 'homosexuality is learned' just know it is true but is 'learned' as a molesting situation as a young boy for some men, but not all.

Read the poem again and put your shrink hat on and you will clearly see violations.

Oh about hiding other stuff. Transcripts, grades, passports....etc....

ROFL I can't imagine how hard up someone has to be to listen to you as a therapist. Also, you're not a "shrink". "Shrinks" go to med school.

Chiefshrink
07-08-2012, 10:43 PM
Whoa, you're actually a psychiatrist? You can prescribe meds? But...you're like freaking nuts. Holy shit.

Physician, heal thyself.

I do have a support group for re-covering Marxists? Are you interested?

No, I am psychotherapist but work with a psychiatrist when I feel that some of my clients might need a med work up.

cosmo20002
07-08-2012, 10:45 PM
ROFL I can't imagine how hard up someone has to be to listen to you as a therapist. Also, you're not a "shrink". "Shrinks" go to med school.

Oh, so is this another lie? "Shrink" is a commonly used term for a psychiatrist--someone with a doctorate in psychiatry. He's not that?

cosmo20002
07-08-2012, 10:46 PM
I do have a support group for re-covering Marxists? Are you interested?

No, I am psychotherapist but work with a psychiatrist when I feel that some of my clients might need a med work up.

So, another lie. "Shrink" is misleading, and I assume that you know that.

Chiefshrink
07-08-2012, 10:50 PM
ROFL I can't imagine how hard up someone has to be to listen to you as a therapist. Also, you're not a "shrink". "Shrinks" go to med school.

Well there is your error in thinking right there, I listen, they talk. A shrink is a shrink whether they have an M.A. Psy D., Ph.D, or M.D. Only the M.D.s are called psychiatrists who can prescribe meds but all of us regardless of education practice 'shrinkage' and some are soley of one school of thought/theory and some are very eclectic practicing many theories.

Rain Man
07-08-2012, 10:52 PM
I don't find it hard to believe given his family background and his political leanings that Obama may have been bisexual or may have experimented with gay sex in his younger days. I don't find that hard to believe.

I don't think it is verifiable obviously, and I don't think we need to waste time on it when his record as president is one of an unqualified failure.


I have a feeling that this website works very hard to verify everything it reports.

Chiefshrink
07-08-2012, 10:55 PM
So, another lie. "Shrink" is misleading, and I assume that you know that.

See post 70. Freudian Psychoanalysis can be taught and trained for at any level of post graduate education if you have the $$. It is not reserved for just M.D's in Med school training to be psychiatrists just for your info.

KILLER_CLOWN
07-08-2012, 11:27 PM
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KILLER_CLOWN
07-08-2012, 11:29 PM
I have a feeling that this website works very hard to verify everything it reports.

Feelings got us into this mess, way too emotional for me.

La literatura
07-09-2012, 12:18 AM
Read the poem I posted. Maybe you already have. Throughout my years as a shrink I have counseled many homosexual men and not with the intentions to change them either but to listen and help with whatever problem they have.

I specialize in men's issues and I have counseled probably close to 40 homosexual men in my 20 plus yr career. Here is the dirty little secret that the MSMM and PC healthcare world don't like to talk about. IME(In my experience) with these 40 homosexual men, close to half were molested as young boys while the other half were not molested and feel they were born this way.

So when you hear the phrase that some 'homosexuality is learned' just know it is true but is 'learned' as a molesting situation as a young boy for some men, but not all.

Read the poem again and put your shrink hat on and you will clearly see violations.

Oh about hiding other stuff. Transcripts, grades, passports....etc....

So, what's the childhood excuse for why you are so messed up?

(And what's the difference between transcripts and grades?)

Count Alex's Losses
07-09-2012, 12:21 AM
I believe it.

http://www.davart.net/awg/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/michelle-obama-not-happy.jpg

T-post Tom
07-09-2012, 01:36 AM
Harold Bloom, who in fifty-three years of teaching literature at Yale University has had many undergraduate poems pressed hopefully upon him said, when reached by telephone in New Haven last week, that he was not familiar with Obama’s oeuvre. But after studying the poems he said that he was not unimpressed with the young man’s efforts—at least, by the standards established by other would-be bards within the political sphere. “At eighteen, as an undergraduate, he was already a much better poet than our former Secretary of Defense William Cohen, who keeps publishing terrible poetry,” Bloom said. (Cohen has published two collections of verse: “Of Sons and Seasons,” in 1978, and “A Baker’s Nickel,” in 1986.) “And then there is Jimmy Carter, who is in my judgment literally the worst poet in the United States.” (Carter’s first volume of poetry, “Always a Reckoning and Other Poems,” which was published in 1994, included a work called “Why We Get Cheaper Tires from Liberia”: “No churches can be built / no privy holes or even graves / dug in the rolling hills / for those milking Firestone’s trees, who die / from mamba and mosquito bites.”)

Of the two Obama poems, Bloom said, “Pop” was “not bad—a good enough folk poem with some pathos and humor and affection.” He went on, “It is not wholly unlike Langston Hughes, who tended to imitate Carl Sandburg.” Bloom was fascinated by Obama’s use of an unusual verb, “shink” (“He . . . Stands, shouts, and asks / For a hug, as I shink, my / Arms barely reaching around / His thick, oily neck”), a word that does not appear in any of the dictionaries that Bloom consulted but which is defined in an online slang dictionary as “an evasive sinking maneuver.”

“It undoubtedly was a word that was in common usage, having to do with feeling very strong emotion, in this case a very strong need for comfort,” Bloom said. He takes the subtext of the poem to be Obama’s reckoning with his absent father, for whom his grandfather is, inevitably, an inadequate substitute. “This is, in effect, his own father,” Bloom said. “That’s very touching, and it also shows a kind of humane and sad wit. There’s a mind there.” “Underground,” Bloom said, is the better poem of the two. “It gave me the oddest feeling that he might have been reading the poems of D. H. Lawrence—it reminded me of the poem ‘Snake,’ ” Bloom went on. “I think it is about some sense of chthonic forces, just as Lawrence frequently is—some sense, not wholly articulated, of something below, trying to break through.”

Poetry aside, Bloom has formed a good impression of Obama—“Though if Mayor Bloomberg runs, I am voting for him,” he added. In any case, he said, Obama has chosen the right career, at least if it comes to a tossup between politico and poet. “If I had been shown these poems by one of my undergraduates and asked, Shall I go on with it?, I would have rubbed my forehead and said, On the whole, my dear, probably not. Your future is not as a person of letters,” Bloom pronounced. “But they would by no means have seemed to me unworthy of my attention.”

SNR
07-09-2012, 03:09 AM
See post 70. Freudian Psychoanalysis can be taught and trained for at any field of post graduate education if you have the $$. It is not reserved for just M.D's in Med school training to be psychiatrists just for your info.FYP.

I have a Master's and a PhD in Historical Musicology. Psychoanalytic texts and post-structural critical theory was a huge part of my post-grad education. I wrote my Master's thesis on Freud's theories on repetition in trauma victims, and how that same deeply seeded compulsion is naturally present in 20th century war requiems.

It was possibly the worst paper I ever wrote since graduating high school, but considering the giant piece of shit I was writing about, not much could be done to formulate a remotely cogent thesis. You know what they say: garbage in, garbage out.

Anyway, my point is I hope there's more to your psychoanalytic techniques than just a good dose of Freud.

patteeu
07-09-2012, 05:59 AM
Harold Bloom, who in fifty-three years of teaching literature at Yale University has had many undergraduate poems pressed hopefully upon him said, when reached by telephone in New Haven last week, that he was not familiar with Obama’s oeuvre. But after studying the poems he said that he was not unimpressed with the young man’s efforts—at least, by the standards established by other would-be bards within the political sphere. “At eighteen, as an undergraduate, he was already a much better poet than our former Secretary of Defense William Cohen, who keeps publishing terrible poetry,” Bloom said. (Cohen has published two collections of verse: “Of Sons and Seasons,” in 1978, and “A Baker’s Nickel,” in 1986.) “And then there is Jimmy Carter, who is in my judgment literally the worst poet in the United States.” (Carter’s first volume of poetry, “Always a Reckoning and Other Poems,” which was published in 1994, included a work called “Why We Get Cheaper Tires from Liberia”: “No churches can be built / no privy holes or even graves / dug in the rolling hills / for those milking Firestone’s trees, who die / from mamba and mosquito bites.”)

Of the two Obama poems, Bloom said, “Pop” was “not bad—a good enough folk poem with some pathos and humor and affection.” He went on, “It is not wholly unlike Langston Hughes, who tended to imitate Carl Sandburg.” Bloom was fascinated by Obama’s use of an unusual verb, “shink” (“He . . . Stands, shouts, and asks / For a hug, as I shink, my / Arms barely reaching around / His thick, oily neck”), a word that does not appear in any of the dictionaries that Bloom consulted but which is defined in an online slang dictionary as “an evasive sinking maneuver.”

“It undoubtedly was a word that was in common usage, having to do with feeling very strong emotion, in this case a very strong need for comfort,” Bloom said. He takes the subtext of the poem to be Obama’s reckoning with his absent father, for whom his grandfather is, inevitably, an inadequate substitute. “This is, in effect, his own father,” Bloom said. “That’s very touching, and it also shows a kind of humane and sad wit. There’s a mind there.” “Underground,” Bloom said, is the better poem of the two. “It gave me the oddest feeling that he might have been reading the poems of D. H. Lawrence—it reminded me of the poem ‘Snake,’ ” Bloom went on. “I think it is about some sense of chthonic forces, just as Lawrence frequently is—some sense, not wholly articulated, of something below, trying to break through.”

Poetry aside, Bloom has formed a good impression of Obama—“Though if Mayor Bloomberg runs, I am voting for him,” he added. In any case, he said, Obama has chosen the right career, at least if it comes to a tossup between politico and poet. “If I had been shown these poems by one of my undergraduates and asked, Shall I go on with it?, I would have rubbed my forehead and said, On the whole, my dear, probably not. Your future is not as a person of letters,” Bloom pronounced. “But they would by no means have seemed to me unworthy of my attention.”

That's not the only slang definition of the word "shink". Check out definition #2. (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shink)

Chiefshrink
07-09-2012, 09:25 AM
It was possibly the worst paper I ever wrote since graduating high school, but considering the giant piece of shit I was writing about, not much could be done to formulate a remotely cogent thesis. You know what they say: garbage in, garbage out.

Anyway, my point is I hope there's more to your psychoanalytic techniques than just a good dose of Freud.

I take a very eclectic approach depending on the personality what I think will help them best. I agree that most of Freud is shit from what I have read and studied. However, his contribution of the structural model of the mind (id,ego and superego) and exposing the ego's 'defense mechanisms' I believe are pretty accurate. We see these used everyday and especially in here on DC.

If you ever get the chance to see the true story of Walter Langer a psychiatrist from Harvard in the late 30's early 40's and how he was asked by our Govt during WWII to profile Hitler so as to predict his next moves, is just fascinating(Milt channel). He wrote this report in 5 months during 1942 and made many predictions in this report and damn near all of them came true by 1945 primarily using info from Hitler's early childhood and Hitler's defensive responses from his past and the current(stressors) present at that time.

greg63
07-09-2012, 10:15 PM
Finally you have come out of the closet:clap: Maybe you can hook up with 'greg' and have him show you his '63' positions of Man's Country love:shrug:

Ever since you were caught peeking at me taking a shower you've never really felt like a real man have you?