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vailpass
07-25-2012, 04:32 PM
Bringing home a new laptop tonight. I read they don't come with restore discs anymore. Is this true? Is creating system restore disks the first thing I should do? What else do you do with a new computer to make sure things go right?

(Thank you in advance for your suggestions to fap, load porn, googel "aids tree", etc.)

Count Alex's Wins
07-25-2012, 04:38 PM
Remove all the bullshit software like McAfee and Norton.

Fruit Ninja
07-25-2012, 04:47 PM
reformat it and put on there what you want. lol

DMAC
07-25-2012, 04:52 PM
Sign up for AOL.

SuperChief
07-25-2012, 04:53 PM
Download Kazaa.

KILLER_CLOWN
07-25-2012, 04:59 PM
reformat it and put on there what you want. lol

QFT!

Seriously i never use the crap that comes on it. Get your windows product key that is installed then borrow a win 7 disc from someone and reinstall.

Huffmeister
07-25-2012, 05:02 PM
(Thank you in advance for your suggestions to fap, load porn, googel "aids tree", etc.)

Depends on whether it's a Mac or a PC. From what I can tell by reading forums online, if you have a Mac, you should return it and get a PC. If you have a PC, you should return it and get a Mac.

I hope this helps.

Saulbadguy
07-25-2012, 05:03 PM
QFT!

Seriously i never use the crap that comes on it. Get your windows product key that is installed then borrow a win 7 disc from someone and reinstall.

Waste of time.

Just run PC decrapifier.

vailpass
07-25-2012, 05:04 PM
reformat it and put on there what you want. lol

QUOTE=KILLER_CLOWN;8767216]QFT!

Seriously i never use the crap that comes on it. Get your windows product key that is installed then borrow a win 7 disc from someone and reinstall.[/QUOTE]

Interesting. I so this after they get gunked up but hadn't ever considered wiping from the start.

vailpass
07-25-2012, 05:04 PM
Sign up for AOL.

:D A guy on MySpace told me about that.

vailpass
07-25-2012, 05:06 PM
Remove all the bullshit software like McAfee and Norton.

It comes with a year of Norton 360. Is there an antivirus that is better to the point you would toss out the free Norton?

Huffmeister
07-25-2012, 05:07 PM
But seriously, as has already been mentioned, get rid of any pre-installed anti-virus programs. Then go an get a free anti-virus like AVG. Also, go install Ad Block.

And check out the stickied Malware / Antivirus thread for other recommended security programs.

Munson
07-25-2012, 05:07 PM
Watch porn. :)

vailpass
07-25-2012, 05:08 PM
Download Kazaa.

Didn't know what this was so I looked it up. My 13 year old might like this. Is it legal? By "file sharing" do they mean some people upload music then others download those songs?

La literatura
07-25-2012, 05:09 PM
If it has Windows 7, you'll want to upgrade to Vista.

vailpass
07-25-2012, 05:09 PM
Depends on whether it's a Mac or a PC. From what I can tell by reading forums online, if you have a Mac, you should return it and get a PC. If you have a PC, you should return it and get a Mac.

I hope this helps.

LMAO

vailpass
07-25-2012, 05:10 PM
But seriously, as has already been mentioned, get rid of any pre-installed anti-virus programs. Then go an get a free anti-virus like AVG. Also, go install Ad Block.

And check out the stickied Malware / Antivirus thread for other recommended security programs.

I have AdBlock on my phone, didn't know they made it for PC. Is it for Firefox only?

vailpass
07-25-2012, 05:11 PM
If it has Windows 7, you'll want to upgrade to Vista.

I should punch you for this.

Huffmeister
07-25-2012, 05:12 PM
I have AdBlock on my phone, didn't know they made it for PC. Id it for Firefox only?

Oops, I meant Ad-Aware. You can get it here:

http://download.cnet.com/Ad-Aware-Free-Antivirus/3000-8022_4-10045910.html?part=dl-&subj=dl&tag=button

vailpass
07-25-2012, 05:24 PM
Oops, I meant Ad-Aware. You can get it here:

http://download.cnet.com/Ad-Aware-Free-Antivirus/3000-8022_4-10045910.html?part=dl-&subj=dl&tag=button

muchas gracias

Count Alex's Wins
07-25-2012, 05:33 PM
It comes with a year of Norton 360. Is there an antivirus that is better to the point you would toss out the free Norton?

Norton 360 is a terrible program no one should ever use.

Just use Avast! if you want an AV on it.

vailpass
07-25-2012, 05:37 PM
Norton 360 is a terrible program no one should ever use.

Just use Avast! if you want an AV on it.

Shit, really? Why? Huff recommends AdAware. What do you think about that combined with Avast?

Fish
07-25-2012, 05:39 PM
First thing I would do is go to Control Panel\Programs. Uninstall all the crap. They'll sometimes have trial software installed, like a 30 day trial of Office. Delete all the shit that isn't Windows related that you don't want.

I'd probably toss Norton 360 in the trash. It's a piece of shit, a huge resource hog, and usually causes more problems than it prevents. There's a reason they give it out for free in situations like this.

Then, go to http://ninite.com/. Select everything you need to get started. I would suggest the following:
Chrome
VLC
Flash
Java
Gimp (Free photoshop clone for image editing)
OpenOffice (Free M$ Office clone if needed)
Adobe Reader
Avast
Malwarebytes
ImgBurn
WinRAR

That will give you a great start.

Then I'd really recommend upgrading Malwarebytes to the Pro version($24.95). It's a great investment and will keep 99.9999% of spyware/malware/trojan/etc off the machine. It's what I call "Grandma proofing". In my opinion, that's a better solution than paying for a virus scanner.

I don't really feel that Ad-Aware is necessary these days, with the built-in features present in today's browsers and virus/malware protection.

vailpass
07-25-2012, 05:41 PM
First thing I would do is go to Control Panel\Programs. Uninstall all the crap. They'll sometimes have trial software installed, like a 30 day trial of Office. Delete all the shit that isn't Windows related that you don't want.

I'd probably toss Norton 360 in the trash. It's a piece of shit, a huge resource hog, and usually causes more problems than it prevents. There's a reason they give it out for free in situations like this.

Then, go to http://ninite.com/. Select everything you need to get started. I would suggest the following:
Chrome
VLC
Flash
Java
Gimp (Free photoshop clone for image editing)
OpenOffice (Free M$ Office clone if needed)
Adobe Reader
Avast
Malwarebytes
ImgBurn
WinRAR

That will give you a great start.

Then I'd really recommend upgrading Malwarebytes to the Pro version. It's a great investment and will keep 99.9999% of spyware/malware/trojan/etc off the machine. It's what I call "Grandma proofing". In my opinion, that's a better solution than paying for a virus scanner.

I don't really feel that Ad-Aware is necessary these days, with the built-in features present in today's browsers and virus/malware protection.

Props. Thanks Fish.

20% code for Malawarebytes Pro. BM6-3S7-665
5 bucks is 5 bucks.

vailpass
07-25-2012, 05:43 PM
Dumb Question: Is running both MS Essentials and Avast redundant?

Count Alex's Wins
07-25-2012, 05:45 PM
Shit, really? Why? Huff recommends AdAware. What do you think about that combined with Avast?

That'd be fine.

Fish
07-25-2012, 05:49 PM
Dumb Question: Is running both MS Essentials and Avast redundant?

Yes.

Yes.

Fruit Ninja
07-25-2012, 05:53 PM
Waste of time.

Just run PC decrapifier.

hows it a waste of time, on my pos computer, to install windows 7 64 ultimate it takes 20 min tops from a thumb drive. You just start it, go take a dump, then grab a sandwhich and when you get back its done.

KILLER_CLOWN
07-25-2012, 05:57 PM
If it has Windows 7, you'll want to upgrade to Vista.

Might as well shoot yourself in the face while you're at it!

KILLER_CLOWN
07-25-2012, 05:58 PM
Norton 360 is a terrible program no one should ever use.

Just use Avast! if you want an AV on it.

Yup, Avast is 1 gazillion times better than the $500 norton symantec crapola.


Any Symantec product will slow your computer down to about half speed.

vailpass
07-25-2012, 06:11 PM
Yes.

Yes.

:D

vailpass
07-25-2012, 06:11 PM
Yup, Avast is 1 gazillion times better than the $500 norton symantec crapola.


Any Symantec product will slow your computer down to about half speed.

Interdasting. I did not know that.Avast Free or Avast Pro?

KILLER_CLOWN
07-25-2012, 06:21 PM
Interdasting. I did not know that.Avast Free or Avast Pro?

Free works great! Using it on all of my systems at home/work.

Setsuna
07-25-2012, 07:23 PM
Start bookmarking all your favorite porn sites. But yes Avast is sooo much better it ain't even funny. Best real time AV program I've ever seen.

Deberg_1990
07-25-2012, 07:29 PM
I've heard windows95 has some sweet apps.
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DaFace
07-25-2012, 07:48 PM
Dumb Question: Is running both MS Essentials and Avast redundant?

I used to run Avast, but it got too complicated for its own good. I've loved MS Essentials.

Otter
07-25-2012, 11:47 PM
Norton 360 is a terrible program no one should ever use.

Just use Avast! if you want an AV on it.

Windows 7 comes with the Defender package built in. You don't need and 3rd party AV.

Bowser
07-25-2012, 11:50 PM
WinRAR

I just like to say that

WinRAAAARRRRRR

lcarus
07-25-2012, 11:59 PM
Remove all the bullshit software like McAfee and Norton.

This. Then install firefox or chrome and start getting all the addons, set up bookmarks, download all programs you need like VLC player and 7-zip

lcarus
07-26-2012, 12:02 AM
Yup, Avast is 1 gazillion times better than the $500 norton symantec crapola.


Any Symantec product will slow your computer down to about half speed.

Does anyone ever use Norton or McAfee anymore? I delete that shit immediately when i get a new computer that has it installed. I just use Malwarebytes

lcarus
07-26-2012, 12:06 AM
Is avast really that good? I may try it out on my work pc tomorrow

Mojo Rising
07-26-2012, 12:52 AM
I would suggest Winpatrol to manage your startup programs and secunia to manage program updates. I use both of the free applications. Winpatrol also has an option that shows what programs are running which is helpful if you get a virus.

Bump
07-26-2012, 12:54 AM
1. take a pic of your new computer with a duck face to show off on facebook

listopencil
07-26-2012, 05:11 AM
Put a gigantic Broncos sticker on it.

listopencil
07-26-2012, 05:11 AM
Then get Elway to sign it.

listopencil
07-26-2012, 05:12 AM
Don't let DJ Williams borrow it though. He's fucking crazy.

Huffmeister
07-26-2012, 10:01 AM
Then I'd really recommend upgrading Malwarebytes to the Pro version($24.95). It's a great investment and will keep 99.9999% of spyware/malware/trojan/etc off the machine. It's what I call "Grandma proofing". In my opinion, that's a better solution than paying for a virus scanner.

I don't really feel that Ad-Aware is necessary these days, with the built-in features present in today's browsers and virus/malware protection.

Thanks for the info. I uninstalled Ad-Aware last night and installed Malwarebytes.

QuikSsurfer
07-26-2012, 10:08 AM
hows it a waste of time, on my pos computer, to install windows 7 64 ultimate it takes 20 min tops from a thumb drive. You just start it, go take a dump, then grab a sandwhich and when you get back its done.

Unless his partitions are crazy (500GB on OS and 100GB on storage - or something stupid like that) -- he should just run PC Decrapifier. It's clear that he isn't very savvy, so expecting him to understand how to format partitions, load the OS and then fish out drivers for his hardware -- this is a better solution.

Screw Norton, AVG, Ad-aware, and Avast. Just pick up Malwarebytes Pro (around $20) and he's good to go.

Setsuna
07-26-2012, 10:24 AM
Malware Bytes is a freaking joke. Get that garbage out of here. I've been on enough suspicious sites to know that it is worth it's praise.

QuikSsurfer
07-26-2012, 10:50 AM
Malware Bytes is a freaking joke. Get that garbage out of here. I've been on enough suspicious sites to know that it is worth it's praise.

Same. It's definitely worth it!

lcarus
07-26-2012, 12:48 PM
Malware Bytes is a freaking joke. Get that garbage out of here. I've been on enough suspicious sites to know that it is worth it's praise.

I havent had any problems with it. Its low on resources. It isnt like a program like avast so i can still run avast even with it installed.

vailpass
07-26-2012, 01:26 PM
Unless his partitions are crazy (500GB on OS and 100GB on storage - or something stupid like that) -- he should just run PC Decrapifier. It's clear that he isn't very savvy, so expecting him to understand how to format partitions, load the OS and then fish out drivers for his hardware -- this is a better solution.

Screw Norton, AVG, Ad-aware, and Avast. Just pick up Malwarebytes Pro (around $20) and he's good to go.

thanks for the input Quik.

No, I'm not a guru (obviously, right?) but yes, I have wiped, reinstalled OS, and reinstalled drivers.
Haven't partitioned my pc but have partitioned my sd card on my phone, familiar with the concept.

But you are correct, I don't really want to do this on my new PC right away.

Is Decrappifier a real thing? I thought people were kidding.

vailpass
07-26-2012, 01:30 PM
I used to run Avast, but it got too complicated for its own good. I've loved MS Essentials.

Windows 7 comes with the Defender package built in. You don't need and 3rd party AV.

With Windows 7 I don't need to dl a separate antivirus such as Avast?
How about Malaware?

vailpass
07-26-2012, 01:32 PM
I would suggest Winpatrol to manage your startup programs and secunia to manage program updates. I use both of the free applications. Winpatrol also has an option that shows what programs are running which is helpful if you get a virus.

Didn't know about those, thanks. Does Winpatrol help me figure out which programs are essential on startup and which I can stop from launching on start?

vailpass
07-26-2012, 01:35 PM
Malware Bytes is a freaking joke. Get that garbage out of here. I've been on enough suspicious sites to know that it is worth it's praise.

So you say Malawarebytes is effective, or it is not effective?

lcarus
07-26-2012, 01:59 PM
So you say Malawarebytes is effective, or it is not effective?

I think he meant "not worth it's praise". I think. Either way, it's gotten rid of shit for me before that AVG wouldn't. I downloaded and installed Avast about an hour ago and have it running.

vailpass
07-26-2012, 03:10 PM
I think he meant "not worth it's praise". I think. Either way, it's gotten rid of shit for me before that AVG wouldn't. I downloaded and installed Avast about an hour ago and have it running.

Thanks. I've heard a lot of positive about m-bytes from here and elsewhere. I don't doubt setsuna though I wonder what 'questionable' sites he was on and if they in fact should have triggered the AV.

Mojo Rising
07-26-2012, 03:15 PM
Didn't know about those, thanks. Does Winpatrol help me figure out which programs are essential on startup and which I can stop from launching on start?

I dont think so. I left all of the intel and computer manufactures applications stay and got rid of all the Macromedia, Apple etc. It does tell you who makes the app.

vailpass
07-26-2012, 03:28 PM
I dont think so. I left all of the intel and computer manufactures applications stay and got rid of all the Macromedia, Apple etc. It does tell you who makes the app.

gracias

QuikSsurfer
07-26-2012, 05:05 PM
thanks for the input Quik.

No, I'm not a guru (obviously, right?) but yes, I have wiped, reinstalled OS, and reinstalled drivers.
Haven't partitioned my pc but have partitioned my sd card on my phone, familiar with the concept.

But you are correct, I don't really want to do this on my new PC right away.

Is Decrappifier a real thing? I thought people were kidding.

Oh it's a real thing alright: http://pcdecrapifier.com/download

And don't listen to Setsuna -- the paid version of Malwarebytes would be a fantastic purchase. You can couple it with something light-weight like Panda Cloud AV (free) if you'd like to be extra safe. I actually run this combo and have for over a year.
I'd also do what Fish suggested and visit ninite.com on the new pc and go ahead and install what he listed -- makes it much easier than visiting each website independently.
You have all the info you need :)

Bowser
07-26-2012, 05:12 PM
Can this decrappifier be used on older puters?

QuikSsurfer
07-26-2012, 05:20 PM
Can this decrappifier be used on older puters?

Sure can -- the program works by doing a sweep on you system for trial software and other pre-bundled junk that usually come on new PCs. You'd then select the checkboxes next to each program/trial you want to remove and it removes them. Only thing about running it on a older PC is I don't know how much trial or crapware that you'd still have on it. No harm in letting it do a sweep though.

Bowser
07-26-2012, 05:25 PM
Sure can -- the program works by doing a sweep on you system for trial software and other pre-bundled junk that usually come on new PCs. You'd then select the checkboxes next to each program/trial you want to remove and it removes them. Only thing about running it on a older PC is I don't know how much trial or crapware that you'd still have on it. No harm in letting it do a sweep though.

Cool. I'll give it a shot and let you know.

vailpass
07-26-2012, 06:03 PM
Oh it's a real thing alright: http://pcdecrapifier.com/download

And don't listen to Setsuna -- the paid version of Malwarebytes would be a fantastic purchase. You can couple it with something light-weight like Panda Cloud AV (free) if you'd like to be extra safe. I actually run this combo and have for over a year.
I'd also do what Fish suggested and visit ninite.com on the new pc and go ahead and install what he listed -- makes it much easier than visiting each website independently.
You have all the info you need :)

Sweet, gonna' decrapify. Yeah, I'm taking Fish's advice on ninite.
Already bought the malawarebytes paid, used the coupon code for 20% off.
Thanks again.

Fish
07-26-2012, 06:12 PM
I would caution against relying only on Malwarebytes though. I think there's need for a low footprint antivirus program too. There are some things that Malwarebytes just doesn't actively scan for. It wasn't designed to scan for. Things like realtime protection of key system files and folders. Root kit like activity. Virus scanners have system access and monitoring that Malwarebytes doesn't have. Malwarebytes wasn't meant to be a "Total System" protection model. It doesn't conflict with other virus scanners.

vailpass
07-26-2012, 06:50 PM
I would caution against relying only on Malwarebytes though. I think there's need for a low footprint antivirus program too. There are some things that Malwarebytes just doesn't actively scan for. It wasn't designed to scan for. Things like realtime protection of key system files and folders. Root kit like activity. Virus scanners have system access and monitoring that Malwarebytes doesn't have. Malwarebytes wasn't meant to be a "Total System" protection model. It doesn't conflict with other virus scanners.

Face mentioned Win7 comes with the Defender AV package built in. Would you say that, coupled with malwarebytes, is sufficient?

Fish
07-26-2012, 07:01 PM
Face mentioned Win7 comes with the Defender AV package built in. Would you say that, coupled with malwarebytes, is sufficient?

Windows Defender does the same thing that Malwarebytes does. Catches malware, spyware, java attacks, and similar stuff. But it's not meant to be a virus scanner. For the same reasons as Malwarebytes. Windows will give you a security warning about no AV program even with Defender turned on.

And Defender isn't as good as Malwarebytes Pro. You could actually turn Defender off. But it doesn't really hurt to have both. That thing has plenty of RAM....

DaFace
07-26-2012, 07:22 PM
Face mentioned Win7 comes with the Defender AV package built in. Would you say that, coupled with malwarebytes, is sufficient?

To clarify, Windows Defender is built-in and is a decent AntiSpyware program, but it's NOT an AntiVirus program. I'm talking about Microsoft Security Essentials, which is both. You have to download it manually.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/products/security-essentials

aturnis
07-26-2012, 07:41 PM
Whatever you do, don't type Google into Google.

Otter
07-26-2012, 08:12 PM
With Windows 7 I don't need to dl a separate antivirus such as Avast?
How about Malaware?

This is a matter of opinion that can be debated until the sun comes up. My answer is 'no, Microsoft Security Essentials (integrated AV) is enough' but an extra layer of protection certainly won't hurt.

lcarus
07-26-2012, 08:30 PM
Really you don't need an anti-virus program or anything. I went without anything for a couple years, and I download crap left and right, and didn't ever get anything. I guess it's a "better safe than sorry" thing. Right now I have avast and it seems cool.

BigMeatballDave
07-26-2012, 08:37 PM
Remove all the bullshit software like McAfee and Norton.

THIS x infinity

Valiant
07-26-2012, 09:24 PM
type msconfig and clean up..

Setsuna
07-26-2012, 10:21 PM
So you say Malawarebytes is effective, or it is not effective?

Yeah I read my response and didn't elaborate. Malwarebytes is not as effective as Avast. I praised Avast for stopping all threats at the point of attack and I've been on a lot of suspicious sites to prove it.

vailpass
07-27-2012, 01:43 PM
Yeah I read my response and didn't elaborate. Malwarebytes is not as effective as Avast. I praised Avast for stopping all threats at the point of attack and I've been on a lot of suspicious sites to prove it.

Thanks for clarifying. I installed Avast and Malwarebytes paid version. Did not install MS Essentials or Defender as I didn't want them all to conflict.
Hope this is enough.

patteeu
07-27-2012, 02:15 PM
Put it on e-bay. It's obsolete by now.

Baby Lee
07-27-2012, 03:47 PM
I have AVG Internet Security 2012. Am planning on a clean re-install of the OS [Win7] to get rid of detritus that has accumulated. What else should I have to supplement for security, if anything? Or should I ditch AVG for something else?

vailpass
07-27-2012, 04:14 PM
Put it on e-bay. It's obsolete by now.

:D :hmmm: :cuss:

vailpass
07-27-2012, 05:54 PM
What Laptop stand are you guys using?
I ordered this one off Amazon today, seemed to be one of the few that works with a 17" unit. Good, bad, ugly?

Cooler Master NotePal U Stand Laptop Cooling Pad with Two Configurable 100mm Fans (R9-NBS-USTD-GP)

cdcox
07-27-2012, 11:09 PM
What Laptop stand are you guys using?
I ordered this one off Amazon today, seemed to be one of the few that works with a 17" unit. Good, bad, ugly?

Cooler Master NotePal U Stand Laptop Cooling Pad with Two Configurable 100mm Fans (R9-NBS-USTD-GP)

My lap?

A laptop stand is kinda like Donger's leather mobile case.

La literatura
07-28-2012, 11:23 AM
I'm a big fan of this product: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002MU1ZRS/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01

It keeps your laptop very cool and is completely silent. Completely silent. At $22 right now, it's a good deal.

Buehler445
07-28-2012, 12:49 PM
None. But I do run a dockingstation for desktop use.

whoman69
07-28-2012, 03:11 PM
Buy skyrim and download a crapton of mods.

vailpass
07-30-2012, 12:21 PM
I'm a big fan of this product: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002MU1ZRS/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01

It keeps your laptop very cool and is completely silent. Completely silent. At $22 right now, it's a good deal.

Thanks Lit.

vailpass
07-30-2012, 12:22 PM
My lap?

A laptop stand is kinda like Donger's leather mobile case.

You have one of those laptops that never get hot? Good on you. I like the stand because it keeps the unit cooler and adjusts to different viewing angles for my boys.