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lcarus
08-14-2012, 06:08 PM
I thought this fad died already. For a while, poker was on multiple channels all the effing time. That was a couple years ago. Then I stopped seeing it. Now I turn it to ESPN today, and the WSOP is on. So do they only show the WSOP now days? I like poker, but I don't get how anyone could want to watch people play. Furthermore, it shouldn't be on ESPN.

L.A. Chieffan
08-14-2012, 06:09 PM
agreed. we need more tebow and chad johnson

lcarus
08-14-2012, 06:10 PM
agreed. we need more tebow and chad johnson

At least they're pro athletes

Valiant
08-14-2012, 06:26 PM
They can take it off when they takw off bowling,darts,golf and wnba..

Lumpy
08-14-2012, 06:27 PM
I'm a huge fan of the WSOP, (although I haven't watched it in a long time). It was interesting to see how people played their hands and how they bet. I got a lot of my game-play from watching the pros. I was also into "Poker After Dark", (it aired on NBC), but it was cancelled last year.

I think a lot of the interest in poker died after the feds killed internet gaming. In fact, the poker league that I was in had a lot of their venues drop out due to lack of participation. There are still games going on in the "back rooms" of some of the bars though. But if they don't know you, good luck getting chips. Those usually die-off in the summer, (due to people going on vacation and such), but they will be firing up again here shortly.

I have yet to lose interest in the game, but having time to actually play is another story.

Fruit Ninja
08-14-2012, 06:28 PM
they still show it on multiple channels. I think its died down alot since you cant play for money on the internet like u used too. lol

Demonpenz
08-14-2012, 06:29 PM
It has died off because everyone wants to make money off of it instead of playing it for a game for fun. It is still pretty big though and was insane at its biggest.

BigRedChief
08-14-2012, 06:37 PM
Because they still can get sponsers and advertisers to support the "sport". Cheap to produce and makes tons of money on that little production cost.

Phobia
08-14-2012, 06:40 PM
These guys are athletes. They wear athletic hats, sporting shades, and have sponsor logos on their apparel. They sit for hours upon hours in chairs which makes it incredibly difficult to maintain focus while they employ their hand/eye coordination and dexterity peeking at cards and pitching heavy clay pieces skillfully at a target. Additionally, they utilize so much discipline in managing all those facial muscles for that much time that it's exhausting by the time they're finished. Anybody who thinks these guys are not athletes have never driven a stock car 500 miles.

Dr. Facebook Fever
08-14-2012, 06:44 PM
There's no bigger disappointment on tv than not being able to find anything to watch so you think "hey at least they'll have something sports on ESPN" then you turn there and it's ****ing poker. Makes me want to shoot something.

Simplicity
08-14-2012, 06:47 PM
You have to be a strong athlete to be able to succeed in poker.

ChiefsCountry
08-14-2012, 06:49 PM
Cheap to produce and has very rich demographics. Not to mention other than baseball there is nothing going on in the sports world.
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Saul Good
08-14-2012, 06:55 PM
The E in ESPN stands for entertainment. It's not purely a sports network. Competitions like poker and the spelling bee have been on for years.

Ceej
08-14-2012, 06:56 PM
It is okay to watch.

I used to play online and had a great time with it.

I recently played at the casino in Wichita. Played some 1-3 NL. Great time for a couple of hours. Left $19 up.

To me, I would love to be able to afford to play for a living. But, I can't and I'm not sure I could handle the swings that comes with the profession.

Simplicity
08-14-2012, 06:56 PM
The E in ESPN stands for entertainment. It's not purely a sports network. Competitions like poker and the spelling bee have been on for years.


Ding! Ding! We have a winner! Can a mod close this thread now?

ChiefsCountry
08-14-2012, 06:57 PM
Also I would assume Poker pays Espn to be on instead of rights fees.
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Lumpy
08-14-2012, 07:02 PM
Hey now, damn it! Poker is a mind sport! I don't know how many damn times I've tried to pull off a bluff by going all-in only to have some schmuck take his sweet ass time mucking his hand. That shit makes you perspire!

:D

Dr. Facebook Fever
08-14-2012, 07:03 PM
Hey now, damn it! Poker is a mind sport! I don't know how many damn times I've tried to pull off a bluff by going all-in only to have some schmuck take his sweet ass time mucking his hand. That shit makes you perspire!

:D

Yawn.

So Matlock reruns it is then...





:)

lcarus
08-14-2012, 07:04 PM
The E in ESPN stands for entertainment. It's not purely a sports network. Competitions like poker and the spelling bee have been on for years.

Yeah I'm not saying poker is the only stupid thing on ESPN. Certainly the spelling bee is another valid complaint. But at least with the spelling bees they werent on every night like poker used to be.

Lumpy
08-14-2012, 07:06 PM
Yawn.

So Matlock reruns it is then...

:)

What? Lawrence Welk isn't on?

:p

Dr. Facebook Fever
08-14-2012, 07:07 PM
What? Lawrence Welk isn't on?

:p

It's over at 7. Duh.

Frazod
08-14-2012, 07:08 PM
The thing I hate is that Texas Hold 'Em is apparently THE ONLY POKER GAME ANYBODY IS ALLOWED TO PLAY ANYMORE. Seriously, when the hell did that happen? I'd never even heard of it until about 10 years ago, and then it's like every other form of the game just stopped. I remember I was playing poker with my neighbor and some of his douchebag yuppie friends once, I suggested we play another variation and they looked at me like I'd just crapped on the table. How about a little 7 card stud once in a while? Or some low hole wild? Jesus. :shake:

Ceej
08-14-2012, 07:10 PM
The thing I hate is that Texas Hold 'Em is apparently THE ONLY POKER GAME ANYBODY IS ALLOWED TO PLAY ANYMORE. Seriously, when the hell did that happen? I'd never even heard of it until about 10 years ago, and then it's like every other form of the game just stopped. I remember I was playing poker with my neighbor and some of his douchebag yuppie friends once, I suggested we play another variation and they looked at me like I'd just crapped on the table. How about a little 7 card stud once in a while? Or some low hole wild? Jesus. :shake:

Good point.

My assumption is with NO-Limit it allows everyone to get all of their money in at once. Which I assume would intrigue people more.

Omaha and Stud are typically limit games which tend to not appeal to the young crowd poker catered to. The young crowd who wanted to make their life earnings in one hand.

Lumpy
08-14-2012, 07:13 PM
It's over at 7. Duh.

You're right.

What time do you change your feces-filled Depends?

Dr. Facebook Fever
08-14-2012, 07:14 PM
You're right.

What time do you change your feces-filled Depends?

Change them?





Ah hell.

-King-
08-14-2012, 07:15 PM
These guys are athletes. They wear athletic hats, sporting shades, and have sponsor logos on their apparel. They sit for hours upon hours in chairs which makes it incredibly difficult to maintain focus while they employ their hand/eye coordination and dexterity peeking at cards and pitching heavy clay pieces skillfully at a target. Additionally, they utilize so much discipline in managing all those facial muscles for that much time that it's exhausting by the time they're finished. Anybody who thinks these guys are not athletes have never driven a stock car 500 miles.

LMAO

Baby Lee
08-14-2012, 07:15 PM
Or some low hole wild?

I think that's on the menu at the Vietnamese sensual massage parlor.

lcarus
08-14-2012, 07:18 PM
The thing I hate is that Texas Hold 'Em is apparently THE ONLY POKER GAME ANYBODY IS ALLOWED TO PLAY ANYMORE. Seriously, when the hell did that happen? I'd never even heard of it until about 10 years ago, and then it's like every other form of the game just stopped. I remember I was playing poker with my neighbor and some of his douchebag yuppie friends once, I suggested we play another variation and they looked at me like I'd just crapped on the table. How about a little 7 card stud once in a while? Or some low hole wild? Jesus. :shake:

It's because it's a trend for some people. It's a fun game. I like playing it every so often, even online for free sometimes, but really there are some idiots who just play it or watch it because its the "cool" thing now (or WAS...not really sure just how much it has died down).

Lumpy
08-14-2012, 07:20 PM
The thing I hate is that Texas Hold 'Em is apparently THE ONLY POKER GAME ANYBODY IS ALLOWED TO PLAY ANYMORE. Seriously, when the hell did that happen? I'd never even heard of it until about 10 years ago, and then it's like every other form of the game just stopped. I remember I was playing poker with my neighbor and some of his douchebag yuppie friends once, I suggested we play another variation and they looked at me like I'd just crapped on the table. How about a little 7 card stud once in a while? Or some low hole wild? Jesus. :shake:

I see where you're coming from here. I learned how to play 5 card draw and 7 card stud before I even heard about Texas Hold'em, (or even Omaha). I didn't learn how to play Hold'em until about 6 or 7 years ago.

Lumpy
08-14-2012, 07:24 PM
It's because it's a trend for some people. It's a fun game. I like playing it every so often, even online for free sometimes, but really there are some idiots who just play it or watch it because its the "cool" thing now (or WAS...not really sure just how much it has died down).

Fwiw, I play because I enjoy the level of concentration needed to play and the ability to keep your cool. If you make the wrong move, you're hosed.

That and it's always a blast knocking grown men out of the game. :evil:

Frazod
08-14-2012, 07:24 PM
Good point.

My assumption is with NO-Limit it allows everyone to get all of their money in at once. Which I assume would intrigue people more.

Omaha and Stud are typically limit games which tend to not appeal to the young crowd poker catered to. The young crowd who wanted to make their life earnings in one hand.

Well, my personal poker experience is just playing with friends (of the non-yuppie douchebag variety) for fairly low stakes with limits every once in a while. Dealer picked the game, and the variations was one of the best parts. And there was none of this "all in" crap. If you didn't have enough money to continue playing, you quit or got more money. That worked just fine for me.

Lumpy
08-14-2012, 07:24 PM
Change them?





Ah hell.

ROFL

Ew!

Ceej
08-14-2012, 07:28 PM
Well, my personal poker experience is just playing with friends (of the non-yuppie douchebag variety) for fairly low stakes with limits every once in a while. Dealer picked the game, and the variations was one of the best parts. And there was none of this "all in" crap. If you didn't have enough money to continue playing, you quit or got more money. That worked just fine for me.

Yeah, you're an old school gambler. And I don't mean that in a bad way. One of my good buddies dad and his friend had a game similar.

I just think the World Series catered more to the young crowd; which is why it is still on tv. To make these young punks think they can pony up $10k and become an instant bazillionaire when the odds are clearly not in their favor. Pun intended.

Frazod
08-14-2012, 07:30 PM
Yeah, you're an old school gambler. And I don't mean that in a bad way. One of my good buddies dad and his friend had a game similar.

I just think the World Series catered more to the young crowd; which is why it is still on tv. To make these young punks think they can pony up $10k and become an instant bazillionaire when the odds are clearly not in their favor. Pun intended.

Yep, I'm not exactly a fan of things that appeal to the hip n trendyz.

Ceej
08-14-2012, 07:34 PM
Yep, I'm not exactly a fan of things that appeal to the hip n trendyz.

I hear ya.

Lumpy brought up a great point. Poker is going to be a dying breed because they've outlawed majority of internet poker.

I enjoy watching it on tv. More so for the dialogue then the actual poker itself.

Some of those guys can make some incredible reads.

lcarus
08-14-2012, 07:34 PM
Well, my personal poker experience is just playing with friends (of the non-yuppie douchebag variety) for fairly low stakes with limits every once in a while. Dealer picked the game, and the variations was one of the best parts. And there was none of this "all in" crap. If you didn't have enough money to continue playing, you quit or got more money. That worked just fine for me.

When I was in Vegas with my friend, we played at a 1-3 limit table at Excalibur. It was money central. Lots of noob drunk tourists filter in and out and just play for fun. We sat there for a few hours and walked away with about 300 each. It wasnt a huge winnings or anything but it was fun. Lots of nice people, free drinks, and low risk. Neither of us are great poker players but it was really easy to make some money at that table. Try it out next time you get a chance.

Lumpy
08-14-2012, 08:50 PM
I hear ya.

Lumpy brought up a great point. Poker is going to be a dying breed because they've outlawed majority of internet poker.

I enjoy watching it on tv. More so for the dialogue then the actual poker itself.

Some of those guys can make some incredible reads.

That's how you can tell the difference between someone that truly enjoys the game and someone who is just playing because it's cool or they see themselves becoming rich and famous.

I haven't played online all that much ever since they put the kibosh on real cash gaming. It's not that I don't think it's "cool" anymore, but it takes away from the experience when you're not playing w/ your hard-earned money. People are also way more cautious w/ the way they play when their money is on the line. But w/ free games, the majority of the players, (mostly novice players), will play every damn hand and hope for the best.

I prefer a real challenge by playing against experienced players. That's why I've always preferred RL games over online. Staring a person in the eyes, watching their body language, shit-talking, etc. That is what makes poker interesting and fun.

Inmem58
08-14-2012, 08:53 PM
It was never entertaining. Slow and frustrating.

SNR
08-14-2012, 08:59 PM
It was watchable in the first few years it was on because ESPN propped up the stars it had. You grew to know the people playing the game, which made it interesting when you watched how they would play stuff against other people.

The problem is the fad grew exponentially to the point that there were so many n00bs in the final tables that you just kind of said, "Meh. Who cares about this shit anymore if some random dweeb is going to win it every year?"

Bump
08-14-2012, 09:00 PM
what? I love watching pro poker players play. It makes me see into their mind a little bit, I love playing poker and feel that I'm quite good at it. I like seeing what they do. I'm not saying that's how I learn to play poker, no, but I find it entertaining, interesting and informative.

Al Bundy
08-14-2012, 09:01 PM
It's funny to watch them wearing the sunglasses. They actually take themselves seriously... basically just attention whores.

Bump
08-14-2012, 09:01 PM
It was watchable in the first few years it was on because ESPN propped up the stars it had. You grew to know the people playing the game, which made it interesting when you watched how they would play stuff against other people.

The problem is the fad grew exponentially to the point that there were so many n00bs in the final tables that you just kind of said, "Meh. Who cares about this shit anymore if some random dweeb is going to win it every year?"

ya but you don't usually see them at another final table. The real pro's always seem to make it pretty far in tourney's consistently. Like Phil Helmuth, he always seems to make the final table.

Lumpy
08-14-2012, 09:07 PM
It was watchable in the first few years it was on because ESPN propped up the stars it had. You grew to know the people playing the game, which made it interesting when you watched how they would play stuff against other people.

The problem is the fad grew exponentially to the point that there were so many n00bs in the final tables that you just kind of said, "Meh. Who cares about this shit anymore if some random dweeb is going to win it every year?"

LMAO Peter Eastgate is on the top of my "wtf happened there" list.

Bump
08-14-2012, 09:13 PM
It's funny to watch them wearing the sunglasses. They actually take themselves seriously... basically just attention whores.

if you are playing against good people that are good at reading others, sunglasses can give you a little bit of an edge. I never wear them because the people I play against are scrubs usually, lol. But if I were in a serious poker tournament, you bet I would wear them.

Silock
08-14-2012, 09:17 PM
I'm a huge fan of the WSOP, (although I haven't watched it in a long time). It was interesting to see how people played their hands and how they bet. I got a lot of my game-play from watching the pros. I was also into "Poker After Dark", (it aired on NBC), but it was cancelled last year.

Poker After Dark is on NBCSports now.

Lumpy
08-14-2012, 09:18 PM
ya but you don't usually see them at another final table. The real pro's always seem to make it pretty far in tourney's consistently. Like Phil Helmuth, he always seems to make the final table.

Hellmuth *shudder*

Negreanu and S. Nguyen are my all-time favorites. Negreanu is pretty laid-back and can pull off some remarkable reads. Nguyen just cracks my ass up. LMAO

SNR
08-14-2012, 09:20 PM
Greg Raymer looked pretty fucking awesome when he won it all. The year before he got schoolyard taunted by Mike Matusow for being the fat nerd. Next year he rapes everything in sight.

qabbaan
08-14-2012, 09:22 PM
Having just been through the Olympics, can't we see ESPN get back to actual sports? People will watch sports oddities if there is nothing else on, like judo or wrestling or track or something. Even darts or billiards is more of a sport than poker.

I know like others have said, ESPN is just purchasing reruns to show and it's cheap and effortless filler for them.

I don't see how people can watch it... So boring...

Al Bundy
08-14-2012, 09:23 PM
Wait.. people actually know these people by name?

Silock
08-14-2012, 09:24 PM
Helmuth rarely makes the final table of the main event anymore. He pisses me off. Same with Negreanu. Both of them think they're way better than they actually are. Hellmuth won all his titles when no one gave a shit about the WSOP.

Tony G, on the other hand, is a crazy asshole, and he cracks me up just because of how much of an asshole he really is.

I love watching Dwan play cash games, because his balls are huge there. It's great watching him school Elezra and Viffer and those guys. He isn't nearly as good in tournaments, though.

Bump
08-14-2012, 09:25 PM
Helmuth *shudder*

Negreanu and S. Nguyen are my all-time favorites. Negreanu is pretty laid-back and can pull off some remarkable reads. Nguyen just cracks my ass up. LMAO

lol I'm not saying I like helmuth, he seems like a fucking douchebag, but you can't deny his poker prowess.

Lumpy
08-14-2012, 09:26 PM
if you are playing against good people that are good at reading others, sunglasses can give you a little bit of an edge. I never wear them because the people I play against are scrubs usually, lol. But if I were in a serious poker tournament, you bet I would wear them.

When Gonzo and I played in tournaments, I would always play, "count the shades". LMAO I honestly never saw how it could help anyone until I wore mine a few times.

I don't recall ever wearing them throughout an entire game, but every once in awhile, I would put them on for a few important hands. I played it off that I was just mocking others, but it was more of a play to throw people off when they were trying to get a read on me.

Poker After Dark is on NBCSports now.

Oh, hell. I thought they cancelled it. Thanks! :)

lcarus
08-14-2012, 09:30 PM
what? I love watching pro poker players play. It makes me see into their mind a little bit, I love playing poker and feel that I'm quite good at it. I like seeing what they do. I'm not saying that's how I learn to play poker, no, but I find it entertaining, interesting and informative.

I just don't see how much you can learn when they just jump around to people left and right, usually midhand. Theres just way more to the game than only what happens when a guy with AQ is up against KK, typically after the flop has already occured. Most of what is shown is "Ooh wonder who is gonna win or get hosed on this river! Its a TEN!!!!!!! Ohhhhhh!!!!!"

Lumpy
08-14-2012, 09:35 PM
lol I'm not saying I like helmuth, he seems like a ****ing douchebag, but you can't deny his poker prowess.

According to one of our poker buddies that met him, he is very cordial and has a sense of humor. Of course, this isn't the case at the table. It could be an act, or it could be that he takes the game way too seriously. Either way, he's an asshole when there's money on the line.

I don't know how many times I've seen Hellmuth lash-out. Some of it was hilarious, but there were times where you go, "JFC". What drove me nuts was when the other player had a better hand going in. He would call them all sorts of names.

Demonpenz
08-14-2012, 09:42 PM
BigWillie007 has a poker twitter account. It is ok and somewhat entertaining.

Ceej
08-14-2012, 10:02 PM
I enjoy watching Negreanu and Esfandiari the most.

luv
08-14-2012, 10:17 PM
I haven't played online all that much ever since they put the kibosh on real cash gaming. It's not that I don't think it's "cool" anymore, but it takes away from the experience when you're not playing w/ your hard-earned money. People are also way more cautious w/ the way they play when their money is on the line. But w/ free games, the majority of the players, (mostly novice players), will play every damn hand and hope for the best.


Not that I got hugely into it, but I enjoyed playing online occasionally. It just got to the point where there were always two or three douches that would come in and go blind all in all the time. Annoying as hell, so I just quit playing altogether.

Pitt Gorilla
08-14-2012, 10:33 PM
They show golf on TV, so why not poker?

Saccopoo
08-14-2012, 10:45 PM
They show golf on TV, so why not poker?

At least they walk the course in golf.

Lumpy
08-14-2012, 11:06 PM
Not that I got hugely into it, but I enjoyed playing online occasionally. It just got to the point where there were always two or three douches that would come in and go blind all in all the time. Annoying as hell, so I just quit playing altogether.

That's another problem w/ play money games. I would be at a table of decent players, then an all-in idiot would show up. I usually reported them to the site admin when it was obvious that they had no intentions of actually playing.

What sites did you play on? I was on Ultimate Bet, PokerStars, and Full Tilt.

BWillie
08-14-2012, 11:24 PM
Poker is still big, there just aren't as many casual fans as there used to be. Still gets pretty good ratings. There are many other things to fill espns spots this time of the year. Better than 90% of the Olympics.

mcaj22
08-15-2012, 12:47 AM
i dont understand why ESPN will cover something like Poker, "entertainment" and never a single coverage of WWE. I know wrestling is "fake" but those guys are far more athletic, fit, and professionally athletic to take bumps and spots over a bunch of dudes sitting in chairs having food, drinks and messages brought to them while they look at two cards for 12 hours at a time

lcarus
08-15-2012, 12:53 AM
i dont understand why ESPN will cover something like Poker, "entertainment" and never a single coverage of WWE. I know wrestling is "fake" but those guys are far more athletic, fit, and professionally athletic to take bumps and spots over a bunch of dudes sitting in chairs having food, drinks and messages brought to them while they look at two cards for 12 hours at a time

Well pro wrestling is more like scripted entertainment. That's probably why they don't cover it.

BWillie
08-15-2012, 01:46 AM
they still show it on multiple channels. I think its died down alot since you cant play for money on the internet like u used too. lol

Yeah, poker is still alive and well. I think the thing people love about poker is anybody can play, the average joe can play against the pros and conceivably win. It's an exhilarating thought and such a beautiful game.

Still tons of poker on NBC Sports, Fox Sports Net, and some of the other sports channels such as the World Poker Tour and even some smaller stuff like the Heartland Poker tour. Being I'm primarily a cash game player, I really enjoy Poker After Dark. The only real reason they aren't making current episodes is because Full Tilt was sponsering it. They don't really currently have a sponser. Poker Stars would do it but they don't really want to piss the DOJ off in hopes they can re-enter the US market when it's legal.

The thing I hate is that Texas Hold 'Em is apparently THE ONLY POKER GAME ANYBODY IS ALLOWED TO PLAY ANYMORE. Seriously, when the hell did that happen?

Basically once ESPN + hole card cam + Chris Moneymaker. There are still tons of WSOP events for other lesser played games. Omaha Hi otherwise just known now as "Omaha" is becoming the new holdem. It is probably going to be the new "hold 'em" to some degree. I honestly don't find stud and omaha hi lo very interesting, but I know the older crowd loves those games.

When I was in Vegas with my friend, we played at a 1-3 limit table at Excalibur. It was money central. Lots of noob drunk tourists filter in and out and just play for fun. We sat there for a few hours and walked away with about 300 each.

One of the great things about live poker is most ppl can sit there for a long time and enjoy it. It's not like blackjack or slots where you can be busto in 5 minutes much of the time. That can happen in poker too on any given hand, but you can play hours and hours. Chat it up with other degens, get free drinks, and really have a good time. It's a shame so many ppl are afraid to give it a try in the casino. I cannot understand how sitting at a slot machine staring into the abyss is fun, but to each their own.

ya but you don't usually see them at another final table. The real pro's always seem to make it pretty far in tourney's consistently. Like Phil Helmuth, he always seems to make the final table.

If you talk to many in the poker community, Phil Hellmuth is not respected near as much as he is on TV, at least as far as Hold 'em. His game really hasn't evolved and he won most of his bracelets before so many people learned how to play the game at a high level. He's not a bad player by any means, but I doubt he could even beat Mid-Stakes or Small Stakes No Limit Hold 'Em as far as online cash games. He plays in like every WSOP event as well.


I haven't played online all that much ever since they put the kibosh on real cash gaming. It's not that I don't think it's "cool" anymore, but it takes away from the experience when you're not playing w/ your hard-earned money. People are also way more cautious w/ the way they play when their money is on the line.

I prefer a real challenge by playing against experienced players. That's why I've always preferred RL games over online. Staring a person in the eyes, watching their body language, shit-talking, etc. That is what makes poker interesting and fun.

You actually can play in many places online still to this day. I've been playing online 3-4 times a week ever since FTP & Stars got busted by the DOJ w/out any problems. That is the biggest thing that has lowered the interest in poker is the lack of availability or at least perception of online poker. So many people think it's rigged (it's not), and it's much more difficult to deposit than it was in the Party Poker days in 2005. The live poker players I play with have no idea you can still play online and think it's "illegal". It's not technically illegal for you to play, the government isn't going to take your money, isn't going to come down on you like you were downloading torrents or something. It's only illegal to host, ie - the ppl running the poker site. Eventually, there should be state backed legislation for online poker. It will probably be backed by Caesars, hopefully real money Zynga Poker can even come about. I would be ecstatic, and you would see people flock to online poker if it was backed by a familar entity & the govt.

As far as "Real Life" games compared to online, I think you have it backwards. It's a well known fact that live games are so much more easier than online it's not even funny. You don't have tons of multi tabling pros, you have so many more recreational players. A 1/3 No Limit Casino game is much easier than .05/.10 games online these days, I'm not even joking. But you are right, there is no substitute in live poker. I play tons online, and I always have the itch to play live.

If any of you are interested in playing online, please let me know. Tons of games still going. There is the Merge Network which even has a Bad Beat Jackpot that gets up over 1 million. A guy from Lawrence, KS won it last year even. Theres the Lock Poker/Cake Poker that is going strong. I can help get you set up, even get you rakeback and help you deposit. Checks on the Merge Network are only taking 1-2 weeks nowadays as well. I love talking poker so if any of you are out there hit me up on skype to discuss strat or shoot the shit. I'd be willing to even stake some of you if you put in a large amt of hands and could show that you are at least break even player online or try to help get you there.

Lumpy
08-15-2012, 02:38 AM
You actually can play in many places online still to this day.

Yeah, there are a few sites that my boss plays on, but he misses the old sites.

As far as "Real Life" games compared to online, I think you have it backwards. It's a well known fact that live games are so much more easier than online it's not even funny. You don't have tons of multi tabling pros, you have so many more recreational players. A 1/3 No Limit Casino game is much easier than .05/.10 games online these days, I'm not even joking. But you are right, there is no substitute in live poker. I play tons online, and I always have the itch to play live.

:hmmm: I don't believe that I stated anything about live play being more difficult than online play. If you took it that way, then perhaps I should have worded my posts differently. I couldn't agree w/ you more on the subject.

When I began playing, I started out online, (mainly to learn the game and see how people bet). Gonzo and his buddy joined a poker league and I soon followed. I remember being extremely nervous the first few times that I played. Imagine a chick walking into a bar and playing poker against mostly men, (there were also a few females). We were playing poker twice a week for a few years and even won entries into the finals. Then... we had a child. Buh-bye poker! LMAO

I think the best part about playing live poker is getting to know your opponents. Gonzo and I made some really good friends, got to know their families, and even went out w/ them outside of poker. Whenever we do get to make it to the bar for a game, we get a huge welcome, (usually followed w/ free beer, lol).

It's a great feeling to play live, (the atmosphere, the people, the friendly trash-talk, etc.). I'm hoping that we'll be able to get back into it again. Maybe one of these days. :)

MahiMike
08-15-2012, 05:44 AM
Who's ESPN? I seriously never watch that channel anymore.

Bump
08-15-2012, 05:46 AM
They show golf on TV, so why not poker?

and nascar...

Baby Lee
08-15-2012, 07:41 AM
At least they walk the course in golf.

What ever happened to that golf cart guy?

luv
08-15-2012, 07:44 AM
That's another problem w/ play money games. I would be at a table of decent players, then an all-in idiot would show up. I usually reported them to the site admin when it was obvious that they had no intentions of actually playing.

What sites did you play on? I was on Ultimate Bet, PokerStars, and Full Tilt.

I couldn't even tell you anymore. I didn't play that often, and I've slept since then. ;)