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Mr. Laz
08-15-2012, 12:14 PM
Ricky Stanzi Will Be The Chiefs No. 2 QB Against The Rams
by Joel Thorman on Aug 15, 2012 12:33 PM CDT in Chiefs Training Camp


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It's official: Ricky Stanzi will be the No. 2 quarterback in the Kansas City Chiefs second preseason game against the St. Louis Rams. Not the No. 2 for the entire season; just for this game. I said earlier today that I wouldn't be surprised if Stanzi gets the nod simply for the sake of giving him a fair chance with the second team.

Stanzi and Brady Quinn are battling for the No. 2 job and throughout camp there isn't a clear leader. Most would say Quinn has been better but it's not like he's lighting the world on fire.

As the KC Star's Adam Teicher notes, the fact that Stanzi gets the nod as the No. 2 in Saturday's game shows that this thing isn't over. Stanzi still has a shot. Maybe not a great one but still a shot.

Danny Parkins made a good point on 610 Sports today about this. Stanzi hasn't been given many opportunities to work with the second team in game action. If this is a true competition then Stanzi deserves time with the second team to show what he can do with better talent.

Put this one on your checklist for Saturday night. We'll be watching the backup battle closely.

Reerun_KC
08-15-2012, 12:14 PM
This is his best chance to show something of substance.

Rams are fucking horrible.

durtyrute
08-15-2012, 12:16 PM
WATCHA GONNA DO, WHEN STANZIMANIA RUNS WILD ON YOU!!!?!!

SNR
08-15-2012, 12:17 PM
Why isn't this in the megathread???!/////1/1/1/1//1/////

durtyrute
08-15-2012, 12:17 PM
After the end of the preseason, with Stanzi on the field, this team with score more than with Quinn on the field. It might not be saying much, but it is a MUTHAFUCKIN FACT.

KC Tattoo
08-15-2012, 12:18 PM
This maybe the funnest preseason game ever to watch!

Reerun_KC
08-15-2012, 12:18 PM
Choosing between Stanzi or Quinn is like asking to die in a flaming bucket of aids or drowning in a steaming pool of aids puss..

Both options suck royally...<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

durtyrute
08-15-2012, 12:20 PM
Choosing between Stanzi or Quinn is like asking to die in a flaming bucket of aids or drowning in a steaming pool of aids puss..

Both options suck royally...<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Wait, is it Aids puss or Aids pus. Cause if Stanzi is Aids puss (y) then.....when do we start training for that?

KCUnited
08-15-2012, 12:21 PM
First in with the 'anyone know where I can get a decent stream?'

Count Zarth
08-15-2012, 12:22 PM
Andrew Luck had 188 yards and 2 TD against St. Loser, so I'm expecting at least 300 yards from Stanzi.

bricks
08-15-2012, 12:22 PM
Choosing between Stanzi or Quinn is like asking to die in a flaming bucket of aids or drowning in a steaming pool of aids puss..

Both options suck royally...<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Eh, may as well choose the lesser of the two evils?

Reerun_KC
08-15-2012, 12:22 PM
Wait, is it Aids puss or Aids pus. Cause if Stanzi is Aids puss (y) then.....when do we start training for that?

Who wants to die in an Aids puss?

Chiefnj2
08-15-2012, 12:25 PM
Andrew Luck had 188 yards and 2 TD against St. Loser, so I'm expecting at least 300 yards from Stanzi.

Can Stanzi execute the spider 3y banana?

durtyrute
08-15-2012, 12:25 PM
If the Aids puss (y) is Stanzi then "IIIIII Doooooooooooo"

KCUnited
08-15-2012, 12:25 PM
Seriously though, I'm going to have to dump my Royals tickets just for this game thread. This is will go down as one the most talked about/debated Chiefs games in recent memory, that time Stanzi got to run with the 2's.

ChiefsCountry
08-15-2012, 12:26 PM
Just watch this is the game Cassel will get hurt in.

Death2CasselFans
08-15-2012, 12:27 PM
How do I get a custom avatar like you guys?

KCUnited
08-15-2012, 12:27 PM
The real treat is that half the board won't get to see it live so it will be the gift that keeps on giving all next week.

Bowser
08-15-2012, 12:27 PM
FAPFAPFAP /Bosschief

Reerun_KC
08-15-2012, 12:28 PM
Just watch this is the game Cassel will get hurt in.

Shit we would be fucked.

This place would go into Croyle is better part two....

Then reality would hit and people would drop into hopelessness again.


I remember all the hype and build up for Croyle vs SD... Didnt take long for that train to derail.

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-15-2012, 12:29 PM
Twas the same for Palko. Reality hit like a ton of bricks.

Count Zarth
08-15-2012, 12:29 PM
It would be cool if game #4 was a battle royale between Quinn and Stanzi. 15+ attempts each.

SNR
08-15-2012, 12:29 PM
Who wants to die in an Aids puss?

Better than the AIDS fire

Bowser
08-15-2012, 12:31 PM
It would be cool if game #4 was a battle royale between Quinn and Stanzi. 15+ attempts each.

Keep doubting that one kid.....from youtube......

Death2CasselFans
08-15-2012, 12:32 PM
How the hell does this place work?

I regestered a week ago. I still cant post new threads. I cant upload an avatar. Is there a rulebook or something I need to read?

I have got over 50 posts also. Is there a magic number I need to get to?

mcaj22
08-15-2012, 12:32 PM
i will laugh if they end up cutting one of Quinn or Stanzi

SNR
08-15-2012, 12:33 PM
Twas the same for Palko. Reality hit like a ton of bricks.That was never serious. Palko DID do a better job moving the ball between the 20s, though.

the Talking Can
08-15-2012, 12:33 PM
How the hell does this place work?

I regestered a week ago. I still cant post new threads. I cant upload an avatar. Is there a rulebook or something I need to read?

basically, no one cares

TEX
08-15-2012, 12:35 PM
i will laugh if they end up cutting one of Quinn or Stanzi

Yep. This plays will CRASH if it's Stanzi...LMAO

Just Passin' By
08-15-2012, 12:35 PM
How the hell does this place work?

I regestered a week ago. I still cant post new threads. I cant upload an avatar. Is there a rulebook or something I need to read?

I have got over 50 posts also. Is there a magic number I need to get to?

You send a PM to Bob Dole asking him to read your first 50 posts and to evaluate you as a poster. If he likes what you've done, he'll make your account fully active.

BossChief
08-15-2012, 12:36 PM
Crennel indicated that Stanzi and Quinn might swap spots on the depth chart next week, leaving Stanzi as the first quarterback off the bench in the Aug. 18 game against the Rams in St. Louis. But Quinn could change those plans by playing well Friday against the Cardinals.

“The plan is to evaluate them and see who can take a step forward,’’ Crennel said. “And then if a guy takes a step forward and we feel like he’s going to continue to go forward, then you continue with him.”

The Chiefs’ decision could come down to the final preseason game on Aug. 30
against the Packers in Green Bay. But the comments of Crennel and Zorn indicate the Chiefs would prefer to make a decision sooner.

If one quarterback outplays the other by a wide margin Friday, he could leave little room for his competition to catch up.

...

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-15-2012, 12:36 PM
Easy 1k post thread for the starter. May cause a Skip return.

Reerun_KC
08-15-2012, 12:36 PM
Yep. This plays will CRASH if it's Stanzi...LMAO

If we would of drafted Foles. Stanzi would be gonzo...

Reerun_KC
08-15-2012, 12:37 PM
Stanzi lovers need to avoid 610...

KC Tattoo
08-15-2012, 12:44 PM
How the hell does this place work?

I regestered a week ago. I still cant post new threads. I cant upload an avatar. Is there a rulebook or something I need to read?

I have got over 50 posts also. Is there a magic number I need to get to?

You send a PM to Bob Dole asking him to read your first 50 posts and to evaluate you as a poster. If he likes what you've done, he'll make your account fully active.

You may need to send more than one PM just to get his attention though, but Bob Dole will take care of you. Multiple PMs would be your best bet for quicker response.

Death2CasselFans
08-15-2012, 12:48 PM
You send a PM to Bob Dole asking him to read your first 50 posts and to evaluate you as a poster. If he likes what you've done, he'll make your account fully active.

I came here to do one thing and one thing only: BASH MATT CASSEL!

That should be enough to have fully active account.

MIAdragon
08-15-2012, 12:49 PM
How do I get a custom avatar like you guys?

PM Bob Dole.

johnny961
08-15-2012, 12:49 PM
This is his best chance to show something of substance.

Rams are ****ing horrible.

Kinda what I was thinking. Hope he shows something to cement that no 2 position.

Death2CasselFans
08-15-2012, 12:57 PM
Thanks for suggesting to PM Bob Dole, I have found his profile and sent him a PM.

Bowser
08-15-2012, 01:00 PM
Thanks for suggesting to PM Bob Dole, I have found his profile and sent him a PM.

If he doesn't respond within an hour or so, send him a couple more just to make sure he gets the emssage.

BossChief
08-15-2012, 01:00 PM
Thanks for suggesting to PM Bob Dole, I have found his profile and sent him a PM.

Might want to change the title of the pm and resend it.

Wouldn't want it to go to a junk folder.

Reerun_KC
08-15-2012, 01:01 PM
LOL at you guys....

Mr. Laz
08-15-2012, 01:07 PM
Can Stanzi execute the spider 3y banana?

http://thepigskindoctors.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/gruden-chucky.jpg

mdchiefsfan
08-15-2012, 01:41 PM
Seriously though, I'm going to have to dump my Royals tickets just for this game thread. This is will go down as one the most talked about/debated Chiefs games in recent memory, that time Stanzi got to run with the 2's.

It will be epic

Setsuna
08-15-2012, 01:43 PM
PBJ This is the best news eva! What time will the game start? I'll be watching that and will be in the game thread talking him up! PBJ

Reerun_KC
08-15-2012, 01:44 PM
Which one of you Stanzi rainbows called into 610 a few min ago?

Mr. Laz
08-15-2012, 01:48 PM
fapping jell on coffee stable ... check
large and absorbent towel on coffee table ..... check
lifesize poster of Stanzi on wall behind t.v. .... check
Stanzies vrs Rams game schedule for recording on DVR ... check


i'm ready ... Goooooo Stanzi!!!

http://www.naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/southpark-cum.jpg

Big Smoke
08-15-2012, 01:50 PM
Let the fap fest begin.

Tribal Warfare
08-15-2012, 01:51 PM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/sWS-FoXbjVI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Reerun_KC
08-15-2012, 01:54 PM
fapping jell on coffee stable ... check
large and absorbent towel on coffee table ..... check
lifesize poster of Stanzi on wall behind t.v. .... check
Stanzies vrs Rams game schedule for recording on DVR ... check


i'm ready ... Goooooo Stanzi!!!

http://www.naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/southpark-cum.jpg

ROFL

beach tribe
08-15-2012, 01:57 PM
I came here to do one thing and one thing only: BASH MATT CASSEL!

That should be enough to have fully active account.

You came here to do what everyone else does?..wow.

Big Smoke
08-15-2012, 01:58 PM
You came here to do what everyone else does?..wow.

Lots of dumbass n00bs around.

KChiefs1
08-15-2012, 02:07 PM
Stanzi lovers need to avoid 610...

or listening to Adam Teicher. :p

Mr. Flopnuts
08-15-2012, 02:19 PM
Shit we would be fucked.

This place would go into Croyle is better part two....

Then reality would hit and people would drop into hopelessness again.


I remember all the hype and build up for Croyle vs SD... Didnt take long for that train to derail.

Haley fucked Croyle so bad in that game. Handcuffed the Fuck out of him. I loved Haley. I truly didn't know just how much of a dumbass he is.

Mr. Laz
08-15-2012, 02:20 PM
or listening to Adam Teicher. :p

everyone should avoid listening to Teicher ... all the time.

Count Zarth
08-15-2012, 02:21 PM
How do I get a custom avatar like you guys?

Keep posting Cassel hate and your avatar achievement will be unlocked.

Username made me snort.

Reerun_KC
08-15-2012, 02:21 PM
Haley ****ed Croyle so bad in that game. Handcuffed the **** out of him. I loved Haley. I truly didn't know just how much of a dumbass he is.

Agree.

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-15-2012, 02:26 PM
T-minus 76 hours till nacho cart humping time at the Ed Jones Dome.

Reerun_KC
08-15-2012, 03:39 PM
Can you imagine if Stanzi gets cut after this preseason?

Mr. Laz
08-15-2012, 03:43 PM
Josh Looney ‏@JoshLooney
Jamar Newsome hauls in toe touch TD in back of end zone from Stanzi. Big time play. #ChiefsCamp

http://www.naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/southpark-cum.jpg

JimNasium
08-15-2012, 03:51 PM
Ya know? AIDS puss has great lexicon potential.

Pawnmower
08-15-2012, 03:54 PM
http://static.quickmeme.com/media/social/qm.gif

Mr. Laz
08-15-2012, 04:02 PM
Josh Looney ‏@JoshLooney
Stanzi just hit Maneri to convert red zone TD @bobfescoe
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bevischief
08-15-2012, 04:22 PM
How do I get a custom avatar like you guys?

Post in this thread.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=255187

BWillie
08-15-2012, 04:36 PM
Choosing between Stanzi or Quinn is like asking to die in a flaming bucket of aids or drowning in a steaming pool of aids puss..

Both options suck royally...<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Being that Brady Quinn and Stanzi are both probably about as good as Cassel, they aren't terrible as back ups.

BossChief
08-15-2012, 04:50 PM
Why is he still throwing to Maneri and Newcombe?

Shouldn't he be throwing to Dexter, Wylie, Moeaki/Boss and either Charles/Hillis if he is running with the 2s?

Pawnmower
08-15-2012, 05:13 PM
Stanzi = QUinn

Quinn = Stanzi

theyre both crap

This pretty much explains how they are the same yet different

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SNR
08-15-2012, 05:20 PM
Stanzi = QUinn

Quinn = Stanzi

theyre both crap

This pretty much explains how they are the same yet different

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/t5aNbKEFVkw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Same... yet different?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_-agl0pOQfs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Pawnmower
08-15-2012, 05:23 PM
LOL

snr is getting to be one of my faves


I think he'scrazy

heres my number....

Call me maybe?

JD10367
08-15-2012, 05:41 PM
http://images.wikia.com/scratchpad/images/2/2f/Cowbell2.gif

AZORChiefFan
08-15-2012, 06:14 PM
[QUOTE=Laz;8820265]Josh Looney ‏@JoshLooney
Jamar Newsome hauls in toe touch TD in back of end zone from Stanzi. Big time play. #ChiefsCamp

Love how Fescoe fails to mention almost any thing positive that Stanzi does. Looked through his Twitter feed today and it's just him bagging on Stanzi.

AZORChiefFan
08-15-2012, 06:15 PM
Josh Looney ‏@JoshLooney
Stanzi just hit Maneri to convert red zone TD @bobfescoe
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Well I stand corrected.

Wait I misread the tweet. ooops.

SNR
08-15-2012, 06:19 PM
The problem is whenever I post that video I have to stop what I'm doing and watch it. It's... a miracle.

Mr_Tomahawk
08-15-2012, 07:09 PM
Andrew Luck had 188 yards and 2 TD against St. Loser, so I'm expecting at least 300 yards from Stanzi.

Stanzi will go 35 for 25 and throw for 500 yard in a quarter and 5 tds.

Simplicity
08-15-2012, 07:16 PM
Alex Tanney.

Mr_Tomahawk
08-15-2012, 07:22 PM
Same... yet different?

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Setsuna
08-15-2012, 07:29 PM
Stanzi = QUinn

Quinn = Stanzi

theyre both crap

This pretty much explains how they are the same yet different

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/t5aNbKEFVkw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Yeah since they have the same amount of experience and the same kind of determination and the same kind of thought process and the same kind of....oh wait...they don't. You be trolling. :shake:

JASONSAUTO
08-15-2012, 07:29 PM
Why does Mr. poopy hate Stanzi so much?
Posted via Mobile Device

durtyrute
08-15-2012, 07:30 PM
Why are there some "fans" on this board wanting a player to fail? The Stanzi haters are the majority of the ones making the dumb ass comparison to Brady. Most of the Stanzi supporters see a kid that looks to have a higher upside than Cassel and want to see him play. Why is that so hard to understanzi?

BossChief
08-15-2012, 07:43 PM
Why does Mr. poopy hate Stanzi so much?
Posted via Mobile Device

His parents didn't give him enough attention as a child.

Setsuna
08-15-2012, 07:47 PM
Why are there some "fans" on this board wanting a player to fail? The Stanzi haters are the majority of the ones making the dumb ass comparison to Brady. Most of the Stanzi supporters see a kid that looks to have a higher upside than Cassel and want to see him play. Why is that so hard to understanzi?

A fanbase consists of the delusional homers, the logical realists, the optimists that are always in danger of becoming homers, and the utter idiots who don't know anything except "I likes dat team...mah team!"

What you got here are the latter.

SNR
08-15-2012, 09:07 PM
Fuckin Stanzi haters. How do they work?

dmahurin
08-15-2012, 09:34 PM
Fuckin Stanzi haters. How do they work?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m89h0oVqdg1qajiqn.jpg

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 07:44 AM
Fuckin Stanzi haters. How do they work?

It's funny, they are the sames ones who won't be able to stand going through the ups and down after drafting their "franchise QB" even though that's what they wanted.

Spongeblack Bobtard
08-16-2012, 07:46 AM
I hope we get to see Stanzi with the #1's for a while. I am thinking we will in the second quarter. Let's just get this over with. Tavaris Jackson is on the market. If Stanzi sucks ass early, maybe we will quit wasting our time with him.

Spongeblack Bobtard
08-16-2012, 07:47 AM
It's funny, they are the sames ones who won't be able to stand going through the ups and down after drafting their "franchise QB" even though that's what they wanted.

What's funny is the Stanzi haters don't even think about drafting a franchise QB because they understand that Cassel is our QB whether they like it or not. He's the best option right now.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 08:19 AM
What's funny is the Stanzi haters don't even think about drafting a franchise QB because they understand that Cassel is our QB whether they like it or not. He's the best option right now.

Wait, what? That really doesn't even make sense. So you don't want to draft a QB and you don't want to play any other qB on the roster, so you want to ride old Matty Boy? Do you think Matt Cassel can get us to a Superbowl and win? If you hate Stanzi then you have to hate Cassel. At least Stanzi tries to go down field and doesn't dance around like Gregory Hines in the pocket. I think everyone sees that RIGHT NOW Cassel is the best option. The problem is that we know what his ceiling is and it is not high enough to take us to glory. Stanzi appears to have a high enough ceiling to get us there, but we won't know until he plays. If we can give Matt "I'm to sexy for the pocket" Cassel three years than Stanzi "I'll grow my hair long like a girl" should get the same amount of time. At least he actually played in college.

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Reerun_KC
08-16-2012, 08:20 AM
Wait, what? If you hate Stanzi then you have to hate Cassel. At least Stanzi trie to go down field and doesn't dance around like Gregory Hines in the pocket. I think everyone sees that RIGHT NOW Cassel is the best option. The problem is that we know what his ceiling is and it is not high enough to take us to glory. Stanzi appears to have a high enough ceiling to get us there, but we won't know until he plays. If we can give Matt "I'm to sexy for the pocket" Cassel three years than Stanzi "I'll grow my hair long like a girl" should get the same amount of time. At least he actually played in college.

ROFL

Setsuna
08-16-2012, 09:27 AM
Wait, what? That really doesn't even make sense. So you don't want to draft a QB and you don't want to play any other qB on the roster, so you want to ride old Matty Boy? Do you think Matt Cassel can get us to a Superbowl and win? If you hate Stanzi then you have to hate Cassel. At least Stanzi tries to go down field and doesn't dance around like Gregory Hines in the pocket. I think everyone sees that RIGHT NOW Cassel is the best option. The problem is that we know what his ceiling is and it is not high enough to take us to glory. Stanzi appears to have a high enough ceiling to get us there, but we won't know until he plays. If we can give Matt "I'm to sexy for the pocket" Cassel three years than Stanzi "I'll grow my hair long like a girl" should get the same amount of time. At least he actually played in college.

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THIS. Rep.

Spongeblack Bobtard
08-16-2012, 09:32 AM
Wait, what? That really doesn't even make sense. So you don't want to draft a QB and you don't want to play any other qB on the roster, so you want to ride old Matty Boy? Do you think Matt Cassel can get us to a Superbowl and win? If you hate Stanzi then you have to hate Cassel. At least Stanzi tries to go down field and doesn't dance around like Gregory Hines in the pocket. I think everyone sees that RIGHT NOW Cassel is the best option. The problem is that we know what his ceiling is and it is not high enough to take us to glory. Stanzi appears to have a high enough ceiling to get us there, but we won't know until he plays. If we can give Matt "I'm to sexy for the pocket" Cassel three years than Stanzi "I'll grow my hair long like a girl" should get the same amount of time. At least he actually played in college.

Edited

What in the hell are you talking about man? I'm not even going to try. ROFL I think matt Cassel gives us a 1000 times better chance of going to the Superbowl than Stanzi.

BossChief
08-16-2012, 09:42 AM
What in the hell are you talking about man? I'm not even going to try. ROFL I think matt Cassel gives us a 1000 times better chance of going to the Superbowl than Stanzi.

Do you even watch the Chiefs?

What areas of Cassels game are superior to Stanzis?

Mechanics?
Reads?
Decision making?
Accuracy?
Poise?
Arm strength?
Clutch?
Ability to scramble?
Attacking all parts of the field?

jd1020
08-16-2012, 09:44 AM
Do you even watch the Chiefs?

What areas of Cassels game are superior to Stanzis?

Mechanics?
Reads?
Decision making?
Accuracy?
Poise?
Arm strength?
Clutch?
Ability to scramble?
Attacking all parts of the field?

How can we answer any of those questions when Stanzi hasn't played a single snap in the regular season?

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 09:46 AM
What in the hell are you talking about man? I'm not even going to try. ROFL I think matt Cassel gives us a 1000 times better chance of going to the Superbowl than Stanzi.

This year, yes of course. Now I'll give Matt the benefit of doubt and say it is almost impossible for a QB to succeed when he is hated by the coach. Millions of OC's and no one backing him had to be tough. I want Matt to win because if he does we do and I hope that what we've seen from him is not his best because if it is; Stanzi will be a much better QB than Cassel ever will.

Reerun_KC
08-16-2012, 09:46 AM
How can we answer any of those questions when Stanzi hasn't played a single snap in the regular season?

And most likely will not see the field unless an injury to Cassel or Cassels replacement?

What a strange obsession with the absurd.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 09:48 AM
How can we answer any of those questions when Stanzi hasn't played a single snap in the regular season?

That's the best part about it. He has shown it in the few times he's seen the field. It is obvious to anyone who looks beyond 2-7. Most that back Stanzi could see the shit last year in the preseason. In just a few plays he's looked better than Matt has his whole fucking career.

jd1020
08-16-2012, 09:49 AM
And most likely will not see the field unless an injury to Cassel or Cassels replacement?

What a strange obsession with the absurd.

Pretty much. If Stanzi starts the season #3 behind Quinn you can pretty much forget about him. He's unlikely to ever play a down as the starter in KC. They'll be looking at the draft before giving the team to him.

jd1020
08-16-2012, 09:50 AM
That's the best part about it. He has shown it in the few times he's seen the field. It is obvious to anyone who looks beyond 2-7. Most that back Stanzi could see the shit last year in the preseason. In just a few plays he's looked better than Matt has his whole ****ing career.

I guess you missed how Cassel looked in that same game. :shrug:

Reerun_KC
08-16-2012, 09:50 AM
Pretty much. If Stanzi starts the season #3 behind Quinn you can pretty much forget about him. He's unlikely to ever play a down as the starter in KC. They'll be looking at the draft before giving the team to him.

And why wouldnt you? Cassels replacement isent even on the roster yet. And as loaded as this team seams to be. Next year or so will be the time to draft a QBoTF for this team.

Mr. Laz
08-16-2012, 09:53 AM
all you guys have killed my Stanzi fapping buzz



assholes

Reerun_KC
08-16-2012, 09:54 AM
all you guys have killed my Stanzi fapping buzz



assholes

LMAO

sorry...

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 09:54 AM
I guess you missed how Cassel looked in that same game. :shrug:

I saw same ol Cassel. Safe throws, one read, same ol shit. He did look more calm in the pocket, so i'll give you that.

jd1020
08-16-2012, 09:55 AM
I saw same ol Cassel. Safe throws, one read, same ol shit. He did look more calm in the pocket, so i'll give you that.

The throw to Baldwin, that was right on point, was safe?

Stanzi looks good in the pocket. He looks good throwing the ball. He throws a nice ball. But if you are completing less % than Tebow that doesn't matter one fucking bit.

Reerun_KC
08-16-2012, 09:56 AM
I saw same ol Cassel. Safe throws, one read, same ol shit. He did look more calm in the pocket, so i'll give you that.

Better not watch the Chiefs this year. I would suggest you break out your Huard games.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 09:58 AM
Why draft someone when you don't even want the players we have to play? We have a first round QB now. "Oh, but I don't want THAT first round QB." "I want the magic one". How about we give our guys a chance to play first. I'm not saying stop looking for a QB and I'm not saying Stanzi is Brady, I just want to see the kid play for longer than a few preseason games. I'm willing to ride with Stanzi for a year or two before I put my faith in some other rook.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 09:58 AM
The throw to Baldwin, that was right on point, was safe?

Stanzi looks good in the pocket. He looks good throwing the ball. He throws a nice ball. But if you are completing less % than Tebow that doesn't matter one fucking bit.

When your WR's drop the ball it's not your fault.

Pestilence
08-16-2012, 10:00 AM
The throw to Baldwin, that was right on point, was safe?

Stanzi looks good in the pocket. He looks good throwing the ball. He throws a nice ball. But if you are completing less % than Tebow that doesn't matter one fucking bit.

Cassel pretty much had two good plays in his first two series. The read to Hillis on the TD and his third throw to McCluster. Everything else was the safe usual bullshit. And if you go back on his first pass to Charles....it should have been a completion...but he freaked on the blitz and overthrew him.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 10:00 AM
The throw to Baldwin, that was right on point, was safe?

Stanzi looks good in the pocket. He looks good throwing the ball. He throws a nice ball. But if you are completing less % than Tebow that doesn't matter one fucking bit.

Those things could not be said about Cassel in his first year and that is one of my points. Ricky already is ahead of where Cassel was in his first year here.

Chiefnj2
08-16-2012, 10:00 AM
I can't wait until Tanney gets some snaps in game 4, completes a few passes and then he becomes the savior of the franchise.

jd1020
08-16-2012, 10:00 AM
Why draft someone when you don't even want the players we have to play? We have a first round QB now. "Oh, but I don't want THAT first round QB." "I want the magic one". How about we give our guys a chance to play first. I'm not saying stop looking for a QB and I'm not saying Stanzi is Brady, I just want to see the kid play for longer than a few preseason games. I'm willing to ride with Stanzi for a year or two before I put my faith in some other rook.

JFC. We have a 1st round QB thats played like an undrafted QB. Quinn was drafted in the 1st years ago. If Stanzi can't beat him out for the #2 job then wtf does that say about Stanzi? He's not ready and likely wont ever be ready as a member of the Chiefs.

Reerun_KC
08-16-2012, 10:03 AM
Those things could not be said about Cassel in his first year and that is one of my points. Ricky already is ahead of where Cassel was in his first year here.

So? what does it do for us now?

jd1020
08-16-2012, 10:03 AM
Those things could not be said about Cassel in his first year and that is one of my points. Ricky already is ahead of where Cassel was in his first year here.

Great! He's ahead of Cassel from 3 years ago! Now he's just got to complete passes. I don't care how ugly the plays look. I don't care how unorthodox the throws look. Stanzi looks better throwing the ball than Philip Rivers but are you going to take him over Rivers? Stanzi needs to do something besides looking good doing it.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 10:04 AM
JFC. We have a 1st round QB thats played like an undrafted QB. Quinn was drafted in the 1st years ago. If Stanzi can't beat him out for the #2 job then wtf does that say about Stanzi? He's not ready and likely wont ever be ready as a member of the Chiefs.

We haven't even got there yet. Let's let things play out and see what happens. If he fails, he fails and I'll admit failure. If he succeeds then you must kiss the ring. :evil:

I'll say this, I GUARANTEE the team scores more with Stanzi on the field than with Quinn on the field. No matter what the circumstances.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 10:05 AM
Great! He's ahead of Cassel from 3 years ago! Now he's just got to complete passes. I don't care how ugly the plays look. I don't care how unorthodox the throws look. Stanzi looks better throwing the ball than Philip Rivers but are you going to take him over Rivers? Stanzi needs to do something besides looking good doing it.

You guys are killing him before he's ever played.

Pestilence
08-16-2012, 10:06 AM
We haven't even got there yet. Let's let things play out and see what happens. If he fails, he fails and I'll admit failure. If he succeeds then you must kiss the ring. :evil:

I'll say this, I GUARANTEE the team scores more with Stanzi on the field than with Quinn on the field. No matter what the circumstances.

In Preseason?

Total or just when they're both working with the #2's?

jd1020
08-16-2012, 10:06 AM
You guys are killing him before he's ever played.

And you are crowning him before he's even made it to first backup.

Pestilence
08-16-2012, 10:09 AM
You guys are killing him before he's ever played.

And you are crowning him before he's even made it to first backup.

How about this? You're both fucking right. FFS.....we don't know if he's Tom Brady or Ryan Leaf.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 10:10 AM
So? what does it do for us now?

Here's my whole thing. If what we saw from Cassel in 2010 is his best, then I think we should stop the Cassel Experiment and just go with Stanzi. I feel that his ceiling is higher than Cassel's. Maybe I'm wrong, but that is my feeling.

Now, if Cassel can get better and we keep kicking ass then that makes the team, including Stanzi that much better. So I'll be good with that too.

jd1020
08-16-2012, 10:10 AM
How about this? You're both ****ing right. FFS.....we don't know if he's Tom Brady or Ryan Leaf.

If he's not #2 for game 1. He's not even TJ Yates.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 10:10 AM
And you are crowning him before he's even made it to first backup.

I'm not crowning shit. I just want to see the kid play. How many times do I have to say that?

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 10:11 AM
In Preseason?

Total or just when they're both working with the #2's?

It would have to be preseason barring some injury and yes TOTAL

jd1020
08-16-2012, 10:12 AM
I'm not crowning shit. I just want to see the kid play. How many times do I have to say that?

If you haven't seen him play how can you say he's better than Cassel ever was?

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 10:13 AM
Great! He's ahead of Cassel from 3 years ago! Now he's just got to complete passes. I don't care how ugly the plays look. I don't care how unorthodox the throws look. Stanzi looks better throwing the ball than Philip Rivers but are you going to take him over Rivers? Stanzi needs to do something besides looking good doing it.

I had to come back to this. You just agreed that Stanzi at 23 was better than Cassel at 27, but you still don't want to give him a chance.

Chiefnj2
08-16-2012, 10:14 AM
Here's my whole thing. If what we saw from Cassel in 2010 is his best, then I think we should stop the Cassel Experiment and just go with Stanzi. I feel that his ceiling is higher than Cassel's. Maybe I'm wrong, but that is my feeling.

Now, if Cassel can get better and we keep kicking ass then that makes the team, including Stanzi that much better. So I'll be good with that too.

I'm sure Pioli thinks that 2010 Cassel and team + Baldwin, Breaston, Hillis, a 2nd pass catching TE and improved Defense = playoff win.

jd1020
08-16-2012, 10:14 AM
I had to come back to this. You just agreed that Stanzi at 23 was better than Cassel at 27, but you still don't want to give him a chance.

Because he's not better than Cassel now. Why would I want the Chiefs to regress?

CoMoChief
08-16-2012, 10:15 AM
The same people that have hard ons for Stanzi are the same ones that had a hard on for Croyle. Look how that turned out.

CoMoChief
08-16-2012, 10:15 AM
I'm sure Pioli thinks that 2010 Cassel and team + Baldwin, Breaston, Hillis, a 2nd pass catching TE and improved Defense = playoff win.

don't forget improved Oline!!!

Winston is going to be a badass.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 10:16 AM
I'm sure Pioli thinks that 2010 Cassel and team + Baldwin, Breaston, Hillis, a 2nd pass catching TE and improved Defense = playoff win.

And I would agree with him. I still think Stanzi has a higher ceiling, though.

Chiefnj2
08-16-2012, 10:20 AM
And I would agree with him. I still think Stanzi has a higher ceiling, though.

Lower floor though.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 10:20 AM
The same people that have hard ons for Stanzi are the same ones that had a hard on for Croyle. Look how that turned out.

I did back Croyle for awhile. We drafted him and he had a rocket arm of course I backed him. He came in REAL games and was shit, so I eased up. But I have to ask, what does that have to do with anything that is going on now? We have won a Superbowl in over 30 years so does that mean we have to wait another thirty?

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 10:22 AM
Lower floor though.

This is where you lose me. Even with the off throws Stanzi makes, there is no way Matt "Happy Feet" Cassel has a higher floor than Stanzi.

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jd1020
08-16-2012, 10:22 AM
I did back Croyle for awhile. We drafted him and he had a rocket arm of course I backed him. He came in REAL games and was shit, so I eased up. But I have to ask, what does that have to do with anything that is going on now? We have won a Superbowl in over 30 years so does that mean we have to wait another thirty?

You saying we aren't going to win a SB in another 30 years because Stanzi isn't going to play?

jd1020
08-16-2012, 10:22 AM
This is where you lose me. Even with the off throws Stanzi makes, there is no way Matt "Happy Feet" Cassel has a lower floor than Stanzi.

You just agreed with him.

BossChief
08-16-2012, 10:22 AM
How can we answer any of those questions when Stanzi hasn't played a single snap in the regular season?

The only things I listed that have anything to do with "a real game" are clutch and decision making.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 10:24 AM
You saying we aren't going to win a SB in another 30 years because Stanzi isn't going to play?

WHAT THE FUCK. NO man, I just threw that bullshit out because he said something about Croyle and that doesn't have shit to do with what is happening today. Just like winning a bowl thirty years ago doesn't.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 10:25 AM
You just agreed with him.

Ooops ROFL

bevischief
08-16-2012, 10:30 AM
:popcorn:
And this is just the preseason I can't wait till see what the regular season brings...

Reerun_KC
08-16-2012, 10:32 AM
:popcorn:
And this is just the preseason I can't wait till see what the regular season brings...

especially if stanzi in #3....

Holy Crist meltdown...

CoMoChief
08-16-2012, 10:32 AM
I did back Croyle for awhile. We drafted him and he had a rocket arm of course I backed him. He came in REAL games and was shit, so I eased up. But I have to ask, what does that have to do with anything that is going on now? We have won a Superbowl in over 30 years so does that mean we have to wait another thirty?

What it has to do with is that people are wanting him to start simply because we drafted him and this place's hatred for our current starting QB and starvation for a home grown franchise QB. Esp the Iowa homers on this board. Stanzi isn't anywhere close to being that guy and I don't believe ever will be. It's that simple. If we drafted a QB next year it would change from Stanzi to whoever ends up being drafted.

He was a 5th round pick for a reason, and I doubt Pioli will ever draft a Tom Brady again. Those are once in a gerneration lucky-ass picks.

Like it or not, Cassel will be this team's QBOTF unless he completely melts down this year.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 10:42 AM
What it has to do with is that people are wanting him to start simply because we drafted him and this place's hatred for our current starting QB and starvation for a home grown franchise QB. Esp the Iowa homers on this board. Stanzi isn't anywhere close to being that guy and I don't believe ever will be. It's that simple. If we drafted a QB next year it would change from Stanzi to whoever ends up being drafted.

He was a 5th round pick for a reason, and I doubt Pioli will ever draft a Tom Brady again. Those are once in a gerneration lucky-ass picks.

Like it or not, Cassel will be this team's QBOTF unless he completely melts down this year.

That still doesn't have shit to do with today. Different people different team, well same team, but different folks. I don't care about the next pick. I want to give the kid a chance. At least two seasons. If Cassel gets four to six then I think Stanzi can at least get two. It might not be until next year or even the year after, but I want him to play.

BossChief
08-16-2012, 10:50 AM
especially if stanzi in #3....

Holy Crist meltdown...

Sometimes, I wonder if you can even read.

Nobody is saying he IS the savior that will win 10 superbowls for KC.

NOBODY.

Most of you dumbshit haters are the ones with the Tom Brady comparisons...most of us Stanzi guys liken him to something more like Tony Romo or Brett Favre (without the unbelievable arm, but he does have a "plus arm")

All we are saying is that in whatever action Stanzi has seen in preseason, he has made good decisions with the ball and showed promise.

He has earned the right to have a solid chance at getting promoted and that after 4 preseason games of promise will finally get his first chance to be on the field with the second team (and hopefully a few with the first team, also) and we are hopeful that he continues to play well and put those around him in a better position to succeed.

Shit, I was vocal about moving up for Tannehill in the draft EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE STANZI...what does that tell you?

To me, that shows that even I acknowledge the fact that he could bust and not be able to step up as much as I hope.

All we are saying is that he deserves the opportunity to fail.

BossChief
08-16-2012, 10:52 AM
If Stanzi ever takes the starting job from Matt, the stadium will fill up faster than you can say Hawkeye.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 10:52 AM
Sometimes, I wonder if you can even read.

Nobody is saying he IS the savior that will win 10 superbowls for KC.

NOBODY.

Most of you dumbshit haters are the ones with the Tom Brady comparisons...most of us Stanzi guys liken him to something more like Tony Romo or Brett Favre (without the unbelievable arm, but he does have a "plus arm")

All we are saying is that in whatever action Stanzi has seen in preseason, he has made good decisions with the ball and showed promise.

He has earned the right to have a solid chance at getting promoted and that after 4 preseason games of promise will finally get his first chance to be on the field with the second team (and hopefully a few with the first team, also) and we are hopeful that he continues to play well and put those around him in a better position to succeed.

Shit, I was vocal about moving up for Tannehill in the draft EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE STANZI...what does that tell you?

To me, that shows that even I acknowledge the fact that he could bust and not be able to step up as much as I hope.

All we are saying is that he deserves the opportunity to fail.

All of this except the Tannehill part. Rep

Reerun_KC
08-16-2012, 10:59 AM
Sometimes, I wonder if you can even read.

Nobody is saying he IS the savior that will win 10 superbowls for KC.

NOBODY.

Most of you dumbshit haters are the ones with the Tom Brady comparisons...most of us Stanzi guys liken him to something more like Tony Romo or Brett Favre (without the unbelievable arm, but he does have a "plus arm")

All we are saying is that in whatever action Stanzi has seen in preseason, he has made good decisions with the ball and showed promise.

He has earned the right to have a solid chance at getting promoted and that after 4 preseason games of promise will finally get his first chance to be on the field with the second team (and hopefully a few with the first team, also) and we are hopeful that he continues to play well and put those around him in a better position to succeed.

Shit, I was vocal about moving up for Tannehill in the draft EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE STANZI...what does that tell you?

To me, that shows that even I acknowledge the fact that he could bust and not be able to step up as much as I hope.

All we are saying is that he deserves the opportunity to fail.

Actually I can read. Reading is cool.

Second, Rainbow. Your goldfish memory forgets that I wanted Stanzi over the trash we trotted out last year when Cassel went down.

The Stanzi Rainbows need let up on the bruised vagina approach, then the Stanzi Realists wont be so mean to you guys.

From all reports so far, this is Stanzis time to shine. Either he unseats Quinn as the #2 or in 1-3 years he will be another Croyle/Palko. So we will see on Saturday. This is his opportunity to prove he is worthy of the #2 spot on this roster for now.

Reerun_KC
08-16-2012, 10:59 AM
If Stanzi ever takes the starting job from Matt, the stadium will fill up faster than you can say Hawkeye.

LMAO

jd1020
08-16-2012, 11:03 AM
Stanzi is a career 49% preseason passer. We'll see how he does against the Rams with the #2's.

BossChief
08-16-2012, 11:09 AM
Stanzi is a career 49% preseason passer. We'll see how he does against the Rams with the #2's.

The gifs are all there to show how much the camp fodder he has been throwing to every game has effected this stat, along with his yards and tds.

jd1020
08-16-2012, 11:11 AM
The gifs are all there to show how much the camp fodder he has been throwing to every game has effected this stat, along with his yards and tds.

We'll see Saturday. Right now he's done shit but "looked good" shitting. He deserves this look with the #2's. But right now it looks like he's #3 going into the season.

BossChief
08-16-2012, 11:16 AM
I'd like to see a stat of what percentage of passes Stanzi has throw to players that ended up making the team.

I bet it's less than 10%.

Spongeblack Bobtard
08-16-2012, 11:17 AM
How can we answer any of those questions when Stanzi hasn't played a single snap in the regular season?

No shit. That's what I was about to say. The coaches have had zero faith in him yet. He stinks in practice. We have a chance to win this year. Stanzi has shown nothing. If it were up to me, I would trade for Tavaris Jackson and send Stanzi home. Jackson is a real back up.

BossChief
08-16-2012, 11:20 AM
I'm genuinely excited to see Stanzi get his shot Saturday night.

I hope he does well and makes the most of it, but I'm also prepared to see him on an emotional high and hopefully that doesn't lead to an early pick.

That was his problem at Iowa. He would get too excited for a big game and come out and throw a bad pass early.

That's why over half his college interceptions came in the first quarter of games.

Spongeblack Bobtard
08-16-2012, 11:21 AM
This year, yes of course. Now I'll give Matt the benefit of doubt and say it is almost impossible for a QB to succeed when he is hated by the coach. Millions of OC's and no one backing him had to be tough. I want Matt to win because if he does we do and I hope that what we've seen from him is not his best because if it is; Stanzi will be a much better QB than Cassel ever will.

Let me explain something very clearly to you and the other Stanzi supporters around here. This is it for Stanzi. This is his shot against the Rams. If he blows it, Quinn is the #2 QB and he'll never see the field. He might not even make the team. He was not good against Arizona. This is it.

Chiefnj2
08-16-2012, 11:32 AM
Let me explain something very clearly to you and the other Stanzi supporters around here. This is it for Stanzi. This is his shot against the Rams. If he blows it, Quinn is the #2 QB and he'll never see the field. He might not even make the team. He was not good against Arizona. This is it.

I doubt it. I think Pioli will be patient with him and give him another year to develop.

Spongeblack Bobtard
08-16-2012, 11:41 AM
I doubt it. I think Pioli will be patient with him and give him another year to develop.

Maybe? He did speak highly of him but, I think he needs to show something this week. We are in a position to win now. Pioli's job is on the line and he's not going into another year with a Tyler Palko type of QB. Ultimately, I think he has learned from listening to coaches too much about personnel.

Haley wanted Waters out and Palko as the #2. Palko looked like Stanzi last year. Waters looked better than ever in New England. Peter King even called him the best o-linemen in football.

If Pioli doesn't see something in Stanzi, he's not going to hang his hat on him.

jd1020
08-16-2012, 11:44 AM
Pioli's job on the line? What? This team is not in win now mode. This is a young team that should be good for years.

Stanzi will 100% be on the team. Where he is on the depth chart is still up in the air.

SNR
08-16-2012, 11:48 AM
The same people that want Succop to be replaced by Matt fucking Szymanski are the same ones that are retarded. Look how that turned out.FYP.

SNR
08-16-2012, 11:50 AM
He was a 5th round pick for a reason, and I doubt Pioli will ever draft a Tom Brady again. Those are once in a gerneration lucky-ass picks.

Like it or not, Cassel will be this team's QBOTF unless he completely melts down this year.Pioli will never pick a Tom Brady again, but he'll pick a 7th round asshole who never started in college to be his longterm starting QB?

Chiefnj2
08-16-2012, 11:51 AM
Maybe? He did speak highly of him but, I think he needs to show something this week. .

No he doesn't. The team made a decision last year that Stanzi wasn't going to touch the field no matter what. They weren't going to rush him. The team was going to bring in outsiders completely unfamiliar with KC's system, and Stanzi was still going to hold a roster spot.

This is his first year working in a normal camp. Regular timeline and non-insane coaching system. He's going to be given time even if he looks horrible this week.

SNR
08-16-2012, 11:54 AM
Let me explain something very clearly to you and the other Stanzi supporters around here. This is it for Stanzi. This is his shot against the Rams. If he blows it, Quinn is the #2 QB and he'll never see the field. He might not even make the team. He was not good against Arizona. This is it.

And Quinn was good?

NEITHER QB HAS TAKEN A COMMAND OF THE #2 SPOT YET.

First guy to do it gets it. It's that simple. If Stanzi performs well on Saturday, that spot is as good as his.

Spongeblack Bobtard
08-16-2012, 11:57 AM
And Quinn was good?

NEITHER QB HAS TAKEN A COMMAND OF THE #2 SPOT YET.

First guy to do it gets it. It's that simple. If Stanzi performs well on Saturday, that spot is as good as his.

I don't like Quinn. I never have. I would rather see Stanzi beat him out but that won't happen. If neither QB takes command, Quinn will get the job because of experience.

Quinn moved the ball and scored points last week. Stanzi did not. If Stanzi wants a spot on the roster, he better move the chains. No excuses this week.

SNR
08-16-2012, 11:59 AM
Quinn moved the ball and scored points last week. Stanzi did not. If Stanzi wants a spot on the roster, he better move the chains. No excuses this week.

LMAO LMAO

Here we go again...

Mr. Laz
08-16-2012, 12:00 PM
don't really understand the anti-stanzi position

one second people are crying about cassel being evil incarnate
the next they are slamming the only other 'HOPE' we have for an alternative this year


gotta think it's just people who want to fight

Chiefnj2
08-16-2012, 12:00 PM
I don't like Quinn. I never have. I would rather see Stanzi beat him out but that won't happen. If neither QB takes command, Quinn will get the job because of experience.

Quinn moved the ball and scored points last week. Stanzi did not. If Stanzi wants a spot on the roster, he better move the chains. No excuses this week.

The early 4th quarter TD was a Stanzi drive.

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-16-2012, 12:02 PM
Some reg. is having a damn good time trolling the shit out of us.

Spongeblack Bobtard
08-16-2012, 12:03 PM
Pioli's job on the line? What? This team is not in win now mode. This is a young team that should be good for years.

Stanzi will 100% be on the team. Where he is on the depth chart is still up in the air.

Go back and watch the press conference when they let Haley go. He was scared shitless. If we don't have a winning record, I think Pioli will get canned.

We are a young team that will be good for years. We are in a position to win right now. We are not desperate but, we are ready to win now. I think you misunderstood me. Stanzi is just like everyone else. If we can get better, we will. I don't see him getting any special treatment because he's a QB. When you look at the depth we have at RB, d-line, and linebacker, there are some good players who could get cut. As of now, the smart thing to do would be to go with 2 QBs on the 53 imo.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 12:05 PM
Let me explain something very clearly to you and the other Stanzi supporters around here. This is it for Stanzi. This is his shot against the Rams. If he blows it, Quinn is the #2 QB and he'll never see the field. He might not even make the team. He was not good against Arizona. This is it.

Now, let me try. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. You have no say in anything involving the team. You make exactly ZERO decisions, so please do not talk as if you do. Pioli isn't giving up on Stanzi this year anyway, that would be dumb. This is his first full offseason why would he give up on him after one year.

Sometimes I wonder if you guys are actually fans. If you actually watch the games or if you just like to bitch to make yourself feel better.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 12:06 PM
LMAO LMAO

Here we go again...

I swear they don't watch the games.

Spongeblack Bobtard
08-16-2012, 12:07 PM
don't really understand the anti-stanzi position

one second people are crying about cassel being evil incarnate
the next they are slamming the only other 'HOPE' we have for an alternative this year


gotta think it's just people who want to fight

I disagree. I think the anti-Stanzi people realize Cassel is our only HOPE this year. If a vet QB gets released, I could see us signing them quick. Tavaris Jackson will probably be traded somewhere by next Monday.

jd1020
08-16-2012, 12:08 PM
don't really understand the anti-stanzi position

one second people are crying about cassel being evil incarnate
the next they are slamming the only other 'HOPE' we have for an alternative this year


gotta think it's just people who want to fight

I want someone other than Cassel but Cassel is the best we have. It's a catch 22.

Spongeblack Bobtard
08-16-2012, 12:10 PM
Now, let me try. You don't know what the **** you are talking about. You have no say in anything involving the team. You make exactly ZERO decisions, so please do not talk as if you do. Pioli isn't giving up on Stanzi this year anyway, that would be dumb. This is his first full offseason why would he give up on him after one year.

Sometimes I wonder if you guys are actually fans. If you actually watch the games or if you just like to bitch to make yourself feel better.

You are right and I don't. Everyone has an opinion. This is mine. Quarterbacks don't get long anymore. Especially late round draft picks.

Mr. Laz
08-16-2012, 12:12 PM
I want someone other than Cassel but Cassel is the best we have. It's a catch 22.

yes, but Stanzi having success doesn't necessarily mean that Cassel loses his job. It just means that Stanzi MIGHT develop into something more.


why would anyone root for any Chiefs player to suck?

Go Cassel!!
Go Stanzi!!
Go Quinn!! (ok, so i puked a little when i said this ... but still)


The QB position is the weakest position on the team ... i want them all to improve.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 12:13 PM
You are right and I don't. Everyone has an opinion. This is mine. Quarterbacks don't get long anymore. Especially late round draft picks.

He hasn't even played a single regular season game and you guys are shitting on him. Even if he comes out and goes 0 for infinity, he will still be on this roster next year. If Pioli won't give up on Cassel he sure as shit won't give up on Stanzi after one fucking year.

Edit: You are very much entitled your opinion and I respect that, I just happen to disagree with pretty much everything you say.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 12:14 PM
yes, but Stanzi having success doesn't necessarily mean that Cassel loses his job. It just means that Stanzi MIGHT develop into something more.


why would anyone root for any Chiefs player to suck?
Go Cassel!!
Go Stanzi!!
Go Quinn!! (ok, so i puked a little when i said this ... but still)


The QB position is the weakest position on the team ... i want them all to improve.

I don't get that either

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-16-2012, 12:14 PM
Trollin, trollin, trollin get those boogerlips rollin, trollin, trollin, trollin, raw hiiiiide...

jd1020
08-16-2012, 12:14 PM
yes, but Stanzi having success doesn't necessarily mean that Cassel loses his job. It just means that Stanzi MIGHT develop into something more.


why would anyone root for any Chiefs player to suck?

Go Cassel!!
Go Stanzi!!
Go Quinn!! (ok, so i puked a little when i said this ... but still)


The QB position is the weakest position on the team ... i want them all to improve.

Who's rooting for him to suck?

Cassel has sucked.
Quinn has sucked.
Stanzi has sucked.

It is what it is. I'm not rooting for any of them to suck.

Setsuna
08-16-2012, 12:19 PM
Who's rooting for him to suck?

Cassel has sucked.
Quinn has sucked.
Stanzi has sucked.

It is what it is. I'm not rooting for any of them to suck.
In what capacity? Being young? Damn you're a harsh, yet stupid fan aren't you?

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 12:20 PM
Who's rooting for him to suck?

Cassel has sucked.
Quinn has sucked.
Stanzi has sucked.

It is what it is. I'm not rooting for any of them to suck.

He hasn't played in a real game how has he sucked, in practice? Practice...........PRACTICE.................WE TALKIN BOUT PRATICE

jd1020
08-16-2012, 12:21 PM
In what capacity? Being young? Damn you're a harsh, yet stupid fan aren't you?

In game capacity? He hasn't been good. We'll see how he does Saturday.

Mr. Laz
08-16-2012, 12:22 PM
Who's rooting for him to suck?

Cassel has sucked.
Quinn has sucked.
Stanzi has sucked.

It is what it is. I'm not rooting for any of them to suck.
then why attack people for 'hoping'?

Spongeblack Bobtard
08-16-2012, 12:22 PM
He hasn't even played a single regular season game and you guys are shitting on him. Even if he comes out and goes 0 for infinity, he will still be on this roster next year. If Pioli won't give up on Cassel he sure as shit won't give up on Stanzi after one ****ing year.

You either have to play really really good or get lucky to even get a shot at playing a regular season game in most cases. By the time New England had Cassel, they were transitioning and just starting to rebuild. They won two Superbowls with Flutie and Huard as the #2 and #3. I like this formula better. They let Huard walk when their chances of winning a Superbowl went down.

Again, we are in a position to make a real run. I don't believe Stanzi is the answer. If it were up to me, I would try and trade Bowe and stock pile picks for next year. If Cassel has a great year like I think he will, I would keep him. Then, move up in the draft and get a QB that we could really start to groom behind him.

Look man, when you are a late round draft pick, you have to show something which brings me back to my point. Stanzi had better show something.

SNR
08-16-2012, 12:23 PM
Who's rooting for him to suck?

Cassel has sucked.
Quinn has sucked.
Stanzi hasn't been given a chance to suck

It is what it is. I'm not rooting for any of them to suck.FYP

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-16-2012, 12:24 PM
You either have to play really really good or get lucky to even get a shot at playing a regular season game in most cases. By the time New England had Cassel, they were transitioning and just starting to rebuild. They won two Superbowls with Flutie and Huard as the #2 and #3. I like this formula better. They let Huard walk when their chances of winning a Superbowl went down. Again, we are in a position to make a real run. I don't believe Stanzi is the answer. If it were up to me, I would try and trade Bowe and stock pile picks for next year. If Cassel has a great year like I think he will, I would keep him. Then, move up in the draft and get a QB that we could really start to groom behind him.

Look man, when you are a late round draft pick, you have to show something which brings me back to my point. Stanzi had better show something.

Ohhhh myyy ROFL

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 12:26 PM
In game capacity? He hasn't been good. We'll see how he does Saturday.

How did Cassel look his first couple of preseason games? Now, he is our starter.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 12:32 PM
You either have to play really really good or get lucky to even get a shot at playing a regular season game in most cases. By the time New England had Cassel, they were transitioning and just starting to rebuild. They won two Superbowls with Flutie and Huard as the #2 and #3. I like this formula better. They let Huard walk when their chances of winning a Superbowl went down.

Again, we are in a position to make a real run. I don't believe Stanzi is the answer. If it were up to me, I would try and trade Bowe and stock pile picks for next year. If Cassel has a great year like I think he will, I would keep him. Then, move up in the draft and get a QB that we could really start to groom behind him.

Look man, when you are a late round draft pick, you have to show something which brings me back to my point. Stanzi had better show something.

Stanzi should have been 5-7 with two touchdowns in the last game, but he had no help. He has obviously shown the coaches something since he is still here. If they thought he sucked as much as you do they would've cut him with The Great Palkisy

Pestilence
08-16-2012, 12:34 PM
Stanzi should have been 5-7 with two touchdowns in the last game, but he had no help. He has obviously shown the coaches something since he is still here. If they thought he sucked as much as you do they would've cut him with The Great Palkisy

Whoa....whoa....whoa......what?

What two fucking TDs exactly?

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 12:40 PM
Whoa....whoa....whoa......what?

What two fucking TDs exactly?

The one where whats his nuts goes out of bounds. A better receiver probably would try to come down in bounds instead of only trying to make the catch. Probably!!

Even without that we got a fieldgoal. 10 pts with Stanzi on the field.

Pestilence
08-16-2012, 12:41 PM
Ok....that's one and that's fucking iffy. Where's the other one?

jd1020
08-16-2012, 12:43 PM
The one where whats his nuts goes out of bounds. A better receiver probably would try to come down in bounds instead of only trying to make the catch. Probably!!

You talking about the fade that was caught in the very corner of the end zone and the receiver was pushed OB?

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 12:43 PM
Ok....that's one and that's fucking iffy. Where's the other one?

I said that wrong thinking back. Gray scored the other one, my bad. Either way it could have been 14, but instead it was 10.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 12:44 PM
You talking about the fade that was caught in the very corner of the end zone and the receiver was pushed OB?

Yes, but there are 1000 different ways that could have happened and I don't want to go through them all. So x that out. The team scored 10 points with him on the field.

Chiefnj2
08-16-2012, 12:51 PM
Yes, but there are 1000 different ways that could have happened and I don't want to go through them all. So x that out. The team scored 10 points with him on the field.

Didn't one of the drives start at the Cards 25 yard line? As long as he didn't take three straight sacks, they were getting 3 points.

jd1020
08-16-2012, 12:52 PM
Yes, but there are 1000 different ways that could have happened and I don't want to go through them all. So x that out. The team scored 10 points with him on the field.

The FG they got with Stanzi on the field they got the ball at the Cardinals 14 and Stanzi had exactly noting other than handing the ball off to the RB to do with the drive... Stanzi's 2 scoring drives totaled a whopping 62 yards, 54 yards if you want to count how many yards they actually got.

CoMoChief
08-16-2012, 12:54 PM
Can we stop with the "if that was Bowe/Baldwin that would be 6pts" stuff?

First of all, the WR was in mid air when the DB was contesting the play. Bowe or Baldwin would have been pushed out as well. The momentum (remember these players were going in full speed) from the DB would have forced the WR out of bounds, regardless of who was there.

It was a well throw ball, good effort, but sometimes it's a game of inches, and ARZ made the better play by forcing the WR out of bounds.

Just Passin' By
08-16-2012, 12:55 PM
Whoa....whoa....whoa......what?

What two ****ing TDs exactly?

It's the Stanzi fantasy. Non-positive plays don't count because of the player that they were thrown to, but all positive plays count even if made with those same receivers. Also, the defenders involved in the plays are irrelevant, because the completions would be made against any defender in the world if only the WR1/WR2 were the targets.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 12:59 PM
So the points don't count? You all say he sucks so bad he should have thrown six picks on that one drive, right. We scored that's all that matters. That's all I said, we scored. I didn't say he was a miracle maker, just we scored. Quinn 3 Cassel 14 Stanzi 10

Sweet Daddy Hate
08-16-2012, 01:48 PM
If Stanzi is having a less than stellar camp, who gives a shit?

I seem to recall, and every year at that...ahem...:

"OH MY GAWDZ, CAZZEL IS LOOKINGZ GEAT AT TEH CAMP THIS YEARZ HERPY-DERP-DERP-DERP/KC sports press"@!

Who can read the field and actually compete against an opposing defense?

Sweet Daddy Hate
08-16-2012, 01:50 PM
If Stanzi is having a less than stellar camp, who gives a shit?

I seem to recall, and every year at that...ahem...:

"OH MY GAWDZ, CAZZEL IS LOOKINGZ GEAT AT TEH CAMP THIS YEARZ HERPY-DERP-DERP-DERP/KC sports press"@!

Who can read the field and actually compete against an opposing defense?

Hint:

Not Cassel.

SNR
08-16-2012, 02:03 PM
It's the Stanzi fantasy. Non-positive plays don't count because of the player that they were thrown to, but all positive plays count even if made with those same receivers. Also, the defenders involved in the plays are irrelevant, because the completions would be made against any defender in the world if only the WR1/WR2 were the targets.
I'm not sure about playing the "what if" game wrt Stanzi's Arizona game.

Here's what I do know:

People who write him off after only 7 fucking passes in a preseason game are giant hypocrites. In the Arizona game, Quinn not only got more time, but he got more time during the part of the game where we weren't trying to grind out the clock. And look how great he was! :rolleyes:

7 throws. FFS. Franchise guys like Eli, Brady, and Rodgers start out with rough starts to the game all the fucking time. By the time they've thrown 20 or 30, the average is right back up to their normally high completion percentage.

7. Throws.

jd1020
08-16-2012, 02:06 PM
I'm not sure about playing the "what if" game wrt Stanzi's Arizona game.

Here's what I do know:

People who write him off after only 7 ****ing passes in a preseason game are giant hypocrites. In the Arizona game, Quinn not only got more time, but he got more time during the part of the game where we weren't trying to grind out the clock. And look how great he was! :rolleyes:

7 throws. FFS. Franchise guys like Eli, Brady, and Rodgers start out with rough starts to the game all the ****ing time. By the time they've thrown 20 or 30, the average is right back up to their normally high completion percentage.

7. Throws.

What is Stanzi's average high completion percentage?

4/8
6/12
8/14
2/7

His chance to show something is coming Saturday. He'll have plenty of time to look good or look bad.

Just Passin' By
08-16-2012, 02:08 PM
I'm not sure about playing the "what if" game wrt Stanzi's Arizona game.

Here's what I do know:

People who write him off after only 7 ****ing passes in a preseason game are giant hypocrites. In the Arizona game, Quinn not only got more time, but he got more time during the part of the game where we weren't trying to grind out the clock. And look how great he was! :rolleyes:

7 throws. FFS. Franchise guys like Eli, Brady, and Rodgers start out with rough starts to the game all the ****ing time. By the time they've thrown 20 or 30, the average is right back up to their normally high completion percentage.

7. Throws.

I agree that completely writing him off is as stupid as claiming he's better than either Cassel or Quinn at this time.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 02:12 PM
I don't think there is anything he can do to get the haters to stop hating.

Just Passin' By
08-16-2012, 02:17 PM
I don't think there is anything he can do to get the haters to stop hating.

He could play well. With the hatred of Cassel here, that would make him a hero on this board. Posters would be offering him their wives as sexual playthings.

Pestilence
08-16-2012, 02:18 PM
I don't think there is anything he can do to get the haters to stop hating.

I'm not a Stanzi hater by any means.....but if he wants to "stop the haters"....he can come out and light up the Rams when he has the chance. He can also destroy Quinn during the preseason battle and rightfully earn the #2 spot.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 02:32 PM
He could play well. With the hatred of Cassel here, that would make him a hero on this board. Posters would be offering him their wives as sexual playthings.

What does "play well" mean to you because to me he "played well" last game.

the Talking Can
08-16-2012, 02:37 PM
It's the Stanzi fantasy. Non-positive plays don't count because of the player that they were thrown to, but all positive plays count even if made with those same receivers. Also, the defenders involved in the plays are irrelevant, because the completions would be made against any defender in the world if only the WR1/WR2 were the targets.

look at Cassel's A #1 Sausage handler trying to be cool....

Just Passin' By
08-16-2012, 02:39 PM
What does "play well" mean to you because to me he "played well" last game.

So the problem is your inability to judge QB play. Well, at least we're getting somewhere.

KCUnited
08-16-2012, 02:41 PM
Don't confuse the antistanzitism with those who are taking an adverse stance against obscene homering. I think the majority are hoping the kid does well.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 02:43 PM
So the problem is your inability to judge QB play. Well, at least we're getting somewhere.

I saw someone who consistanly took shots. He also didn't go with the first read everytime. I only saw two badly thrown balls, one of which could have still been caught.

So are you going to answer the question or not?

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 02:45 PM
Don't confuse the antistanzitism with those who are taking an adverse stance against obscene homering. I think the majority are hoping the kid does well.

You must have missed the majority of this thread. The haters hate just to hate. He hasn't even played one real game. I just want the kid to get a shot. Ya know, more than 7 passes in a preseason game.

Reerun_KC
08-16-2012, 03:22 PM
Now, let me try. You don't know what the **** you are talking about. You have no say in anything involving the team. You make exactly ZERO decisions, so please do not talk as if you do. Pioli isn't giving up on Stanzi this year anyway, that would be dumb. This is his first full offseason why would he give up on him after one year.

Sometimes I wonder if you guys are actually fans. If you actually watch the games or if you just like to bitch to make yourself feel better.

Yet you are acting like you have some inside knowledge?

LMAO

You dont know shit about what Pioli is going to do with any player let alone Stanzi. You are basing your smack on your assumption and speculation, knowing there is a good chance Stanzi comes back for 1-2 more years...

But calling someone out about having inside knowledge, then running your cock holster like you are "in the know" is pretty damn funny.

Setsuna
08-16-2012, 03:31 PM
You haters need to stop dick riding Stanzi. That's all I'm saying.

durtyrute
08-16-2012, 03:56 PM
Yet you are acting like you have some inside knowledge?

LMAO

You dont know shit about what Pioli is going to do with any player let alone Stanzi. You are basing your smack on your assumption and speculation, knowing there is a good chance Stanzi comes back for 1-2 more years...

But calling someone out about having inside knowledge, then running your cock holster like you are "in the know" is pretty damn funny.

You are right I don't have insider knowledge, but I also didn't say that I did you dumb shit. Learn how to read. Based on the fact that Matt Cassel sucks the penis and is still here, it is pretty easy to see that Stanzi will also be here for another few years since he is also Pioli's guy. If you don't think so, fine, but I do.

What is it with some of you guys and your fascination with dicks?

Mr. Laz
08-16-2012, 04:01 PM
Don't confuse the antistanzitism with those who are taking an adverse stance against obscene homering. I think the majority are hoping the kid does well.

what obscene homering?


some people think stanzi has talent and HOPE he can be our QBoTF


think ... hope are not homerism

:shrug:

Just Passin' By
08-16-2012, 04:11 PM
I saw someone who consistanly took shots.

So, stupid quarterbacking is playing well to you?

He also didn't go with the first read everytime. I only saw two badly thrown balls, one of which could have still been caught.

So are you going to answer the question or not?

It varies depending upon the intent of the appearance. As a general rule, though, a 3rd string QB going 2 of 7 and displaying questionable decision making skills while throwing inaccurately in the first preseason game of the season is not going to be considered to have played well.

He's got 3 games to show improvement, and I wish him well.

Reerun_KC
08-16-2012, 04:16 PM
You are right I don't have insider knowledge, but I also didn't say that I did you dumb shit. Learn how to read. Based on the fact that Matt Cassel sucks the penis and is still here, it is pretty easy to see that Stanzi will also be here for another few years since he is also Pioli's guy. If you don't think so, fine, but I do.

What is it with some of you guys and your fascination with dicks?

Stopped reading there...

Thanks for clearing that up...

-King-
08-16-2012, 04:41 PM
You are right I don't have insider knowledge, but I also didn't say that I did you dumb shit. Learn how to read. Based on the fact that Matt Cassel sucks the penis and is still here, it is pretty easy to see that Stanzi will also be here for another few years since he is also Pioli's guy. If you don't think so, fine, but I do.

What is it with some of you guys and your fascination with dicks?

Stanzi is a 5th round pick. Pioli would not hesitate to cut him if need be.
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KCUnited
08-16-2012, 04:55 PM
what obscene homering?


some people think stanzi has talent and HOPE he can be our QBoTF


think ... hope are not homerism

:shrug:

C'mon, the Stanzi unseating Cassel without injury nonsense, when the consensus here in KC is Stanzi (and Quinn) are well behind Cassel as potentially leading this team. The beat-into-the-ground breakdown of a handful of passes in pre-season by 2 guys that hopefully won't see the field this year. The [insert fantasy stat line] if X and Y were to happen.

Most all have 0 faith in Cassel, most all have hope for the kid and want him to succeed, but most realize that Stanzi's realistic expectations are to solidify the #2 spot and get himself ready to play if Cassel goes down.

The Stanzi backlash is homer driven.

NJChiefsFan
08-16-2012, 11:10 PM
Stanzi is a 5th round pick. Pioli would not hesitate to cut him if need be.
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But what need would that be? Even if Stanzi shits himself the next 3 games will KC really cut him in hopes of improving the #3 QB spot? With the talk of Pioli loving Cassel it gets overlooked how much Pioli would want Stanzi to do well. He comes from a college coach Pioli loves and is Pioli's only QB drafted on this team. He is most likely going to give the guy a long shot.

As for the Stanzi hate and love, its nice to see this board reaching the grey area that life and sports normally exist in. There is a reason most black vs. white arguements(not races) never lead to any conclusion, cause both sides usually both have major holes. Stanzi is a rough talent, has a lot to learn. Last year with a shortened offseason and 3rd string reps, exactly how much work did he get. To me the whole him not beating out Palko has so many issues to break down that it can't really even be said. As for this year, even if he does struggle that doesn't mean he can't improve. Is 1.5 offseasons the line for when a QB is capable of either being good or not? On the other side of the coin, the twisting that some of the Stanzi supporters do to build up their side is getting a little out of hand. I don't think the WR did anything wrong on the Stanzi throw, the guy got pushed out of bounds. Good pass, good play by the defender.

I want Stanzi to do well, I have hope, even if its all due to my dislike of Cassel. That being said, we have not seen enough to say anything else than "I have hope". Cause evidence isn't there yet. Taking shots down field or seeming to look good in the pocket is hardly court room material. The reality is, as some have mentioned, we don't know.

If people want to say that his odds aren't good and therefore they doubt it how can you argue with that. At that same time, if people want to hold on to hope and think what they have seen may turn out to be something, its a little harsh to not let them have that. But saying there is evidence yet of anything implies TV views with no idea what the plays or reads are is a little twisted. Yes he has played with #3's, but he is also playing against #3's. We just don't know. The one thing I am most confident about is this, he will be on the roster.

jd1020
08-16-2012, 11:16 PM
As for the Stanzi hate and love, its nice to see this board reaching the grey area that life and sports normally exist in. There is a reason most black vs. white arguements(not races) never lead to any conclusion, cause both sides usually both have major holes. Stanzi is a rough talent, has a lot to learn. Last year with a shortened offseason and 3rd string reps, exactly how much work did he get. To me the whole him not beating out Palko has so many issues to break down that it can't really even be said. As for this year, even if he does struggle that doesn't mean he can't improve. Is 1.5 offseasons the line for when a QB is capable of either being good or not? On the other side of the coin, the twisting that some of the Stanzi supporters do to build up their side is getting a little out of hand.

I don't hold 2011 against him. It's clear that Pioli didn't/doesn't want to put him out on the field until he's absolutely ready. Palko was Haley's pet as much as Cassel is Pioli's. And then we claimed Orton. Although, if Stanzi is still #3 come week 1 then I'll have to write him off. He'll likely be a career backup and probably wont get an extension in KC.

NJChiefsFan
08-16-2012, 11:17 PM
I don't hold 2011 against him. It's clear that Pioli didn't/doesn't want to put him out on the field until he's absolutely ready. Palko was Haley's pet as much as Cassel is Pioli's. And then we claimed Orton. Although, if Stanzi is still #3 come week 1 then I'll have to write him off. He'll likely be a career backup and probably wont get an extension in KC.

That's fair. I personally would give him another offseason before I write him off completely(save for a clearly terrible performance this preseason), but if he can't beat out Quinn, his odds of ever being a starter drop a considerable amount.

rico
08-17-2012, 09:46 AM
I don't hold 2011 against him. It's clear that Pioli didn't/doesn't want to put him out on the field until he's absolutely ready. Palko was Haley's pet as much as Cassel is Pioli's. And then we claimed Orton. Although, if Stanzi is still #3 come week 1 then I'll have to write him off. He'll likely be a career backup and probably wont get an extension in KC.

I think IF Pioli literally does believe that Stanzi is a "potential future NFL starter" as he stated, then I think he is going to bring him along very carefully. For one, I think Stanzi is the type of guy that will develop at a potentially slower pace than your Andrew Luck types. Stanzi fans (me being one of them) have to be very patient with this guy's development. Also, I think Pioli has probably caught on to how quickly this fanbase is to turn on a QB when they aren't performing well. I think this fanbase is quicker than others to be that way because we are so damned starved for a franchise QB and tired of the QB bullshit. IF Stanzi does show potential of succeeding at the QB position, I think Pioli is going to wait until; 1.) he has to put him in due to injury of QB's ahead of him on depth chart or 2.) He is 100% absolutely sure he is ready to go to avoid understandable cynicism from the fanbase. If Stanzi starts and is doing shitty....the general outlook from the fanbase of him being a shitty QB, may become quickly irreversible due to us being so starved for "the guy." I guess Trent Green was an exception to this, but I think the fanbase is at it's skepticism and cynicism peak right now... I am guilty of this to a fault. If Cassel shows great improvement in 2012, I will not be convinced that the improvement was Matt Cassel, even if he literally did improve. I will give credit to his weapons because I have seen just how limited this man is in so many different areas. My perception of the guy is irreversible, which is unfortunate.

Mr. Laz
08-17-2012, 09:57 AM
The Stanzi backlash is dick driven.


FYP

rico
08-17-2012, 10:22 AM
After all these tweets through OTA's and training camp. From Babb's admitted pre-training camp excitement of seeing Stanzi because he was the best QB he saw at the OTA's to reports of Stanzi at OTA's throwing balls in the dirt. From Mr. Happy, Lance Twidwell's obvious Stanzi-love (with really no explanation why he was loving on him so much) to Fescoe's apparent Stanzi-hate. From a report from someone saying that you can't tell the difference between Stanzi and Trick Shot by watching them play to Cordell aka formerdb, endorsing Stanzi compared to Cassel and Quinn and explaining in "tweet-depth" why Stanzi received his endorsement. Can't forget Nick Jacobs's seemingly fair and balanced tweets. Out of all of them, one of my favorites regarding Stanzi was a tweet by the WR he threw to in college:

DJK ‏@DJKoulianos
One Of The Most Exciting Moments In Sports Will Be When @AdamSchefter Announces Ricky Stanzi Has Been Named Kansas City's Starting QB

Maybe it's an Iowa pride thing. Maybe their friends. Maybe both. Many people have made the comment that they think a lot of Stanzi's success in college was a reflection of not Stanzi, but the talent he had surrounding him...the tools he had to work with. It is encouraging to see that Stanzi's own WR appears to have respect for him as a QB. If he felt Stanzi was a factor that held him back from accomplishing more than he could have, then I wouldn't expect a tweet like that from him, unless it is, as mentioned Iowa pride or endorsement of a personal friend despite any questions he may have in terms of his ability.

I realize that college and the NFL are on 2 totally different wavelengths, but I am pretty certain that we will never see a tweet from Dwayne Bowe where he is endorsing Cassel when they are no longer teammates. Just a hunch.

Then again, to my understanding, Larry Fitzgerald had some nice things to say about Palko on the radio last year.....so who knows?

I just thought it was an interesting tweet that may have been over-looked a bit by the non-Iowans who don't even know who DJK is.

SNR
08-17-2012, 10:41 AM
Stanzi is a 5th round pick. Pioli would not hesitate to cut him if need be.
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Dumbass.

DaneMcCloud
08-17-2012, 10:46 AM
Choosing between Stanzi or Quinn is like asking to die in a flaming bucket of aids or drowning in a steaming pool of aids puss..

Both options suck royally...<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

:shake:

So, both options are worse than Tyler's Thigpen and Palko? Or Damon Huard?

:rolleyes:

Get a fucking grip, Dude.

Setsuna
08-17-2012, 10:54 AM
Why can't the haters/doubters stay out of this thread so we can talk about hope in peace?

Mr. Laz
08-17-2012, 10:57 AM
Why can't the haters/doubters stay out of this thread so we can talk about hope in peace?

http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/v1/designs/11977855,width=190,height=190/Obama-Keep-Hope-Alive.png

SNR
08-17-2012, 11:03 AM
Yeah, why can't our backups be as good as Denver's Caleb Hanie and Brock Assweiler? Or Green Bay's Graham Harrell and BJ Coleman?

They're backup QBs for fuck's sake. Go fuck your mothers if you're going to complain about backup QBs. Neither of them are Tyler Thigpen or Tyler Palko for once in a long time, so STFU.

jd1020
08-17-2012, 11:04 AM
http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/v1/designs/11977855,width=190,height=190/Obama-Keep-Hope-Alive.png

http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/the-oval/2010/02/28/obama-thumbsx-large.jpg

Chiefnj2
08-17-2012, 11:22 AM
Yeah, why can't our backups be as good as Denver's Caleb Hanie and Brock Assweiler? Or Green Bay's Graham Harrell and BJ Coleman?

They're backup QBs for ****'s sake. Go **** your mothers if you're going to complain about backup QBs. Neither of them are Tyler Thigpen or Tyler Palko for once in a long time, so STFU.

Harrell looked like ass last night

tooge
08-17-2012, 11:23 AM
But what need would that be? Even if Stanzi shits himself the next 3 games will KC really cut him in hopes of improving the #3 QB spot? With the talk of Pioli loving Cassel it gets overlooked how much Pioli would want Stanzi to do well. He comes from a college coach Pioli loves and is Pioli's only QB drafted on this team. He is most likely going to give the guy a long shot.

As for the Stanzi hate and love, its nice to see this board reaching the grey area that life and sports normally exist in. There is a reason most black vs. white arguements(not races) never lead to any conclusion, cause both sides usually both have major holes. Stanzi is a rough talent, has a lot to learn. Last year with a shortened offseason and 3rd string reps, exactly how much work did he get. To me the whole him not beating out Palko has so many issues to break down that it can't really even be said. As for this year, even if he does struggle that doesn't mean he can't improve. Is 1.5 offseasons the line for when a QB is capable of either being good or not? On the other side of the coin, the twisting that some of the Stanzi supporters do to build up their side is getting a little out of hand. I don't think the WR did anything wrong on the Stanzi throw, the guy got pushed out of bounds. Good pass, good play by the defender.

I want Stanzi to do well, I have hope, even if its all due to my dislike of Cassel. That being said, we have not seen enough to say anything else than "I have hope". Cause evidence isn't there yet. Taking shots down field or seeming to look good in the pocket is hardly court room material. The reality is, as some have mentioned, we don't know.

If people want to say that his odds aren't good and therefore they doubt it how can you argue with that. At that same time, if people want to hold on to hope and think what they have seen may turn out to be something, its a little harsh to not let them have that. But saying there is evidence yet of anything implies TV views with no idea what the plays or reads are is a little twisted. Yes he has played with #3's, but he is also playing against #3's. We just don't know. The one thing I am most confident about is this, he will be on the roster.

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SNR
08-17-2012, 11:25 AM
Harrell looked like ass last night

Exactly.

There's nothing wrong with KC's backups compared to the rest of the league. People are just bitching over nothing

Chiefnj2
08-17-2012, 11:29 AM
Exactly.

There's nothing wrong with KC's backups compared to the rest of the league. People are just bitching over nothing

You have to admit Davis looked good for Atlanta.

Reerun_KC
08-17-2012, 11:48 AM
:shake:

So, both options are worse than Tyler's Thigpen and Palko? Or Damon Huard?

:rolleyes:

Get a ****ing grip, Dude.

ROFL

What does Thigpen, Palko or Huard (whom all 3 are not on the roster) have to do with Quinn or Stanzi.

Lets go ahead and add Blundin, Croyle, Barnes in there for discussion while we are at it.

You are holding on to tight man....

Setsuna
08-17-2012, 11:53 AM
ROFL

What does Thigpen, Palko or Huard (whom all 3 are not on the roster) have to do with Quinn or Stanzi.

Lets go ahead and add Blundin, Croyle, Barnes in there for discussion while we are at it.

You are holding on to tight man....

Hey....Bowe just got signed. Go complain and crush everyone's enthusiasm in that thread. I'm sure they'd appreciate it.

Reerun_KC
08-17-2012, 12:02 PM
Hey....Bowe just got signed. Go complain and crush everyone's enthusiasm in that thread. I'm sure they'd appreciate it.

You are a strange individual my friend....

DaneMcCloud
08-17-2012, 12:05 PM
You are a strange individual my friend....

Not nearly as strange as you

Reerun_KC
08-17-2012, 12:06 PM
Not nearly as strange as you

you are stranger than I am. Wierdo.

Mr. Laz
08-17-2012, 12:11 PM
Hey....Bowe just got signed. Go complain and crush everyone's enthusiasm in that thread. I'm sure they'd appreciate it.
don't worry ... he is

Reerun_KC
08-17-2012, 12:12 PM
don't worry ... he is

Laz Laz Laz... Shouldnt you be bashing Bill Self somewhere?

SNR
08-17-2012, 12:31 PM
STRANGER DANGER

SNR
08-17-2012, 12:32 PM
Reerun and Dane:

http://www.chicagonow.com/the-vast-wasteland/files/2012/05/perfect-strangers-1.jpg

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-17-2012, 12:33 PM
Yeah, why can't our backups be as good as Denver's Caleb Hanie and Brock Assweiler? Or Green Bay's Graham Harrell and BJ Coleman?

They're backup QBs for fuck's sake. Go fuck your mothers if you're going to complain about backup QBs. Neither of them are Tyler Thigpen or Tyler Palko for once in a long time, so STFU.

I don't think half of these peeps watch other teams. I love how they pretend teams are loaded 3 deep at ever position with superstars.

Reerun_KC
08-17-2012, 01:18 PM
Reerun and Dane:

http://www.chicagonow.com/the-vast-wasteland/files/2012/05/perfect-strangers-1.jpg

Better than you and Clay.

http://www.homorazzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/hot-guys-making-out.jpg

Mr. Laz
08-17-2012, 01:36 PM
Reerun and Dane:

http://www.chicagonow.com/the-vast-wasteland/files/2012/05/perfect-strangers-1.jpg

Better than you and Clay.

http://www.homorazzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/hot-guys-making-out.jpg

ROFL

SNR
08-17-2012, 01:48 PM
Better than you and Clay.

http://www.homorazzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/hot-guys-making-out.jpg

I'm very open about my relationship with Clay.

With you and Dane there's all kinds of unspoken sexual tension just like on Perfect Strangers. That's why I went for that.

Reerun_KC
08-17-2012, 01:51 PM
I'm very open about my relationship with Clay.

With you and Dane there's all kinds of unspoken sexual tension just like on Perfect Strangers. That's why I went for that.

Dane and I have a long history of being mean to each other. Nothing new there.

But over all Dane is a cool cat and I am glad to see him back... We rarely see eye to eye, but we sure enjoy bashing the hell out of each other.

I have alot of respect for Dane and a person and poster.

SNR
08-17-2012, 01:56 PM
Dane and I have a long history of being mean to each other. Nothing new there.

But over all Dane is a cool cat and I am glad to see him back... We rarely see eye to eye, but we sure enjoy bashing the hell out of each other.

I have alot of respect for Dane and a person and poster.

Excellent.

I love Clay and Clay loves me. Please respect our relationship.

Death2CasselFans
08-17-2012, 02:28 PM
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Mr. Laz
08-17-2012, 02:29 PM
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Sweet Daddy Hate
08-21-2012, 12:56 PM
So, stupid quarterbacking is playing well to you?







It plays well to our GM, so why not?