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The Bad Guy
08-16-2012, 11:55 PM
I just need some space to rant and let off some steam. As some of you know, I was furloughed from my job 3 weeks ago as a special education teacher. I just had acquired tenure in the district, built up the program from basically scratch, and was let go because of an enormous amount of cuts in the district that initially happened in early July, but because they screwed up the seniority list, I got bumped by one spot. 3 years of sterling evaluations and the best I got was a voicemail from the superintendent saying I didn't have a job anymore.

I had an interview at another district 2 weeks ago and it went well. They had called my principal that was at my old school and they told him it was between me and another teacher I worked with that was furloughed. The district ended up making their decision based on the fact that this teacher also coached field hockey.

This was the absolute worst ****ing time ever for me to get laid off. Just built a new house, just had a ton of concrete work done at the house just a week before the call. They let me go 3 weeks before the year started, which means all the jobs have basically dried up.

I'm just beyond frustrated and angry. The union is doing next to nothing to get jobs back. I've requested a grievance about the fact they had 2 lottery drawings my initial year. The first drawing I was 4th highest on the list. The 2nd drawing, I was 15th. I also was hired for elementary and they moved me to high school a week before the year started. The lady I beat out for the elementary job, who was only hired after I got moved, is higher than me on the seniority list. My union head doesn't seem to really care about that.

I went to clean out my classroom yesterday and it's amazing how cold people can be. Some people I was really nice to just wouldn't even acknowledge me even though I wasn't let go because of any doing of my own. It just pissed me off to be treated like a bastard stepchild.

Even if I do get a teaching job elsewhere, I'm likely looking at 10-15k paycut.

I'm just really angry and needed to vent tonight.


***UPDATE***

I was called back by the superintendent of the district that furloughed me and they have a long-term sped position available until the end of the year. I accepted it. I go back to my full pay with benefits. While I'm hopeful that a full-time position will present itself, this gives me some security and flexibility.

I'm excited.

**2ND UPDATE****

Well, the arbitration ruling finally came down, and the teacher's union won on all counts. The district illegally furloughed all 32 teachers and now have to give us back pay and benefits for the entire school year as well as return us to our previous positions. District sent me a letter stating my reinstatement and I have to go to a meeting at 8 AM on Friday.

They might still appeal, but it's a good feeling.

chasedude
08-16-2012, 11:59 PM
Forward your OP here

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-comments

Oh and be sure to ask when and where you can pick up your bailout money.

O.city
08-17-2012, 12:01 AM
Sucks bro. Keep your head up.



Hope everything works out for ya. Wife is a teacher, it's a tough time for you guys right now.

Marcellus
08-17-2012, 12:02 AM
All I can say is good luck, keep your head up, and if you keep doing the right thing, it will come back around for you.

The Bad Guy
08-17-2012, 12:02 AM
Forward your OP here

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-comments

Oh and be sure to ask when and where you can pick up your bailout money.

I'd rather send it to that cocksucker Gov of Pennsylvania, who refuses to tax the oil companies that come here, but has cut education funding by considerable amounts. Oh yeah, the same guy who took kickbacks from the Second Mile Foundation.

If that piece of shit is still in office in 2 years, I'm moving to another state to teach.

Rain Man
08-17-2012, 12:03 AM
Sorry to hear, Bad Guy. Life punches us in the gut sometimes, and it looks like Life saw you at Applebee's with Life's girlfriend and decided to punch with unnecessary vigor.

Hang in there, though. I'm confident that you'll figure out a way to get by, and most likely the school layoffs are temporary.

The Bad Guy
08-17-2012, 12:04 AM
All I can say is good luck, keep your head up, and if you keep doing the right thing, it will come back around for you.

Thanks man. I'm confident I'll get a break, and will be fine eventually, but I just hate the fact that my world has been flipped.

Oh, I also forgot to rant about how the administrators in the district are getting their 4% pay raises. It's good to know that a district that's apparently having declining enrollment, and just cut 30% of their teachers needs to have an assistant superintendent and an assistant to the assistant superintendent.

Munson
08-17-2012, 12:05 AM
Thats bullshit.

And its one of the reasons I despise unions. Merit doesn't mean shit to them. Its all about how long you've there. You could be the biggest piece of shit worker/teacher/whaterever, and as long as you've been there one day longer than the next guy, you're job is safe.

Also, its pretty f***ed up that they waited til 3 weeks before the school year.

O.city
08-17-2012, 12:05 AM
Bullshit that we keep laying off good teachers from schools. We need teachers, our education is bad and we need good teachers.



Anyway, like I said, keep your head up.

The Bad Guy
08-17-2012, 12:06 AM
Also, my mother fucking furlough paperwork is all dated July 16. I didn't get a phone call until July 27th. 11 days would have made a ton of difference as 5 special ed. jobs close to me were all filled at that time.

The Bad Guy
08-17-2012, 12:06 AM
Thats bullshit.

And its one of the reasons I despise unions. Merit doesn't mean shit to them. Its all about how long you've there. You could be the biggest piece of shit worker/teacher/whaterever, and as long as you've been there one day longer than the next guy, you're job is safe.

Also, its pretty f***ed up that they waited til 3 weeks before the school year.

Not one of the fucking union reps were furloughed. However, if one was, you can bet your ass they'd be moving like their ass was on fire.

The Bad Guy
08-17-2012, 12:08 AM
The main positive is it's looking like I'll be a stay at home dad for a while. My wife is heading back to work. I'll really cherish spending all of my time with my 3-year old.

Phobia
08-17-2012, 12:09 AM
Sorry for your luck, Frank. I hope something good happens for you quickly. You going to be paying union dues at your next gig?

O.city
08-17-2012, 12:10 AM
The main positive is it's looking like I'll be a stay at home dad for a while. My wife is heading back to work. I'll really cherish spending all of my time with my 3-year old.

For sure. Enjoy that.



My wife is the bread winner right now, while I finish up Dental School. Just keep your head up and things will turn around for ya.

Munson
08-17-2012, 12:11 AM
Not one of the ****ing union reps were furloughed. However, if one was, you can bet your ass they'd be moving like their ass was on fire.

The unions have no problem taking your money. But when you truly need them, they'll tell you to go f*** yourself.

Bump
08-17-2012, 12:12 AM
it won't be too long before some R's come in here and tell you that you are entitled and lazy. But that sucks dude, sounds like some bullshit.

The Bad Guy
08-17-2012, 12:12 AM
Sorry for your luck, Frank. I hope something good happens for you quickly. You going to be paying union dues at your next gig?

Highly unlikely unless I end up at a district that's union has a solid rep.

The kicker is these fuckers want us to pay our dues while we are furloughed. I told them to fuck off and that all my issues happened when I was a full paying member so they have to support me.

Dicky McElephant
08-17-2012, 12:13 AM
The unions have no problem taking your money. But when you truly need them, they'll tell you to go f*** yourself.

I added up the numbers. If I end up working at my job for 30 years.....I will have paid almost $11,000 in Union Dues. That's fucking stupid.

Rain Man
08-17-2012, 12:14 AM
Not one of the ****ing union reps were furloughed. However, if one was, you can bet your ass they'd be moving like their ass was on fire.

People in power never punish themselves. I know of a county government in Colorado (Adams County) where corruption has cost taxpayers literally tens of millions of dollars, but the people in charge continue to give each other raises and promotions. It's sickening.

chasedude
08-17-2012, 12:14 AM
I'd rather send it to that cocksucker Gov of Pennsylvania, who refuses to tax the oil companies that come here, but has cut education funding by considerable amounts. Oh yeah, the same guy who took kickbacks from the Second Mile Foundation.

If that piece of shit is still in office in 2 years, I'm moving to another state to teach.

I'm considering Canadian citizenship if a certain someone is reelected in Nov.

Seriously though, I just started working fulltime just 3 months ago with nearly 2 years grabbing whatever I could to keep afloat (barely). I'm getting paid more now to deliver drugs than I did working IT, figure that one out!

Lumpy
08-17-2012, 12:17 AM
Vent away, BG! You have been put through a lot of BS and you can't keep that bottled up.

I know how you feel, (in a way). When Gonzo got laid off, we went into panic mode. Just stay focused on your goals and you will achieve them in time.

As far as the admins getting a raise... that makes absolutely no damn sense! :mad:

I wish you the best!

Phobia
08-17-2012, 12:17 AM
Oh, I also forgot to rant about how the administrators in the district are getting their 4% pay raises. It's good to know that a district that's apparently having declining enrollment, and just cut 30% of their teachers needs to have an assistant superintendent and an assistant to the assistant superintendent.
That's how it is around here too. They cut 30-40 jobs and the suits get their fat raises on already significant salaries. What I don't understand though, is why do we need $300 per sqft schools? Why do 14 year old kids need $8,000 cameras to learn photography? Hell, when I went to school we learned photography by bringing mom & dad's camera to school. Schools are an out of control expense that keeps sucking tax dollars and they're spending more on everything except the people who deserve it the most.

La literatura
08-17-2012, 12:18 AM
Do you plan on getting on the substituting lists? I imagine that could be a bit chaotic, however, with a young child.

Hope something comes up. I've heard of school districts in my state hiring right before school starts. It's rare, sure, but it wouldn't hurt to look.

BigMeatballDave
08-17-2012, 12:19 AM
The main positive is it's looking like I'll be a stay at home dad for a while. My wife is heading back to work. I'll really cherish spending all of my time with my 3-year old.

Good luck.

I've been out of work since March.

The positive is when I had my son over the summer, we hung out all day, everyday.

Those times are priceless.

The silver lining in this dark cloud...

La literatura
08-17-2012, 12:23 AM
That's how it is around here too. They cut 30-40 jobs and the suits get their fat raises on already significant salaries. What I don't understand though, is why do we need $300 per sqft schools? Why do 14 year old kids need $8,000 cameras to learn photography? Hell, when I went to school we learned photography by bringing mom & dad's camera to school. Schools are an out of control expense that keeps sucking tax dollars and they're spending more on everything except the people who deserve it the most.

Now everybody needs 1:1 computer programs. But the administration for schools is a serious, usually unjustifiable racket.

Does anyone think a single person with a PhD in Education Administration can do much for a district? More than 3 or 4 good teachers can?

I'm skeptical. I've heard a lot of stories, though, and almost entirely from the teacher pov.

The Bad Guy
08-17-2012, 12:28 AM
Do you plan on getting on the substituting lists? I imagine that could be a bit chaotic, however, with a young child.

Hope something comes up. I've heard of school districts in my state hiring right before school starts. It's rare, sure, but it wouldn't hurt to look.

As sickening as this makes me right now, I would get more money collecting than I could subbing.

If a long term job comes up, then I'd absolutely apply.

The only good thing is, if the district realizes they have to hire teachers, they have to call me first.

Dave Lane
08-17-2012, 12:31 AM
Forward your OP here

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-comments

Oh and be sure to ask when and where you can pick up your bailout money.

Or your friend in Wisconsin Paul Ryan. I hear he loves teachers and unions. I'd give him a call right away.

Earthling
08-17-2012, 12:45 AM
Bummer. I hope you are able to re-negotiate something with the new house.

The Bad Guy
08-17-2012, 12:52 AM
Bummer. I hope you are able to re-negotiate something with the new house.

Haven't contacted the bank yet to discuss that. We are pretty safe for about 3 months paying the mortgage. without any additional income.

With my wife working and what I can get collecting for a few months, we should be ok.

chasedude
08-17-2012, 12:56 AM
Or your friend in Wisconsin Paul Ryan. I hear he loves teachers and unions. I'd give him a call right away.
He's not my friend. I have no affiliations with either side. IMO they're all out of touch.

KILLER_CLOWN
08-17-2012, 01:03 AM
I have a teacher that works for me that was laid off, he couldn't be happier since he left the profession. He also has a young (2 year old) son and feels as if the change in direction did him good. Hang in there bro, and pray a lot as it DOES help! ;)

Aries Walker
08-17-2012, 01:05 AM
The main positive is it's looking like I'll be a stay at home dad for a while. My wife is heading back to work. I'll really cherish spending all of my time with my 3-year old.
I guarantee that when you're 90 and on your deathbed, the time with your three-year-old will be what you remember. And, by the way, what your three-year-old remembers.

Hang in there.

La literatura
08-17-2012, 01:07 AM
More positives:

- No worthless teacher meetings to start your days off
- Doing special education analysis and experiments with chiefsplanet posters
- Not having to worry about living that dream of showing up to school in just your briefs
- Not dealing with spoiled kids whose parents didn't hit them enough

|Zach|
08-17-2012, 02:30 AM
I'm considering Canadian citizenship if a certain someone is reelected in Nov.



LMAO

Bye!

|Zach|
08-17-2012, 02:32 AM
The field hockey part and the 4% administrator raise part would be the fucking crazy motherfuck you angles in all of this.

btlook1
08-17-2012, 03:15 AM
Good luck bad guy! If nothing comes up for awhile enjoy the time with your child. Who knows maybe it will be for the best!

bevischief
08-17-2012, 08:39 AM
Also, my mother ****ing furlough paperwork is all dated July 16. I didn't get a phone call until July 27th. 11 days would have made a ton of difference as 5 special ed. jobs close to me were all filled at that time.

That's BS there.

Big Smoke
08-17-2012, 08:43 AM
The whole situation seems like complete BS. Good luck to you. If nothing else enjoy this time with your young one.

DJay23
08-17-2012, 08:46 AM
Also, my mother ****ing furlough paperwork is all dated July 16. I didn't get a phone call until July 27th. 11 days would have made a ton of difference as 5 special ed. jobs close to me were all filled at that time.

This is the part I don't get. My district's business runs July 1 through June 30. Our budget has to be written and approved by the board before June 30 each year. The school year before last we had a budget shortfall where 10 teachers were going to be let go. Our union, school board, and super made sacrifices (we took a pay freeze) to help these people out but we had to make all decisions before June 30 at the latest. Assuming most districts operate the same way, I don't see how they can come to you so late in the summer and let you go.

Also, maybe I misunderstood this, but I was told that in PA a school board can't let a teacher go as a cost cutting measure, they have to cut an entire program. One of the big deals here was that they were going to get rid of our middle school chorus teacher and to do so they were cutting middle school chorus. Are they cutting your program?

Saulbadguy
08-17-2012, 08:48 AM
They just did layoffs where I work. Kind of crazy. People that were laid off have the option of "bumping" people that are on their original probation (6 months).

That would suck taint.

Predarat
08-17-2012, 08:52 AM
I have went through this in recent years myself, its damn tough. You experience a huge array of emotions. Vent all you need, its good for you.

tooge
08-17-2012, 08:56 AM
that sucks man. I hope you get back on your feet soon and I hope your time with your kid ends up making this all turn out for the better anyhow. I don't condone it, but sort of understand how people go postal.

CaliforniaChief
08-17-2012, 09:00 AM
Really sorry to read this OP, TBG.

It can be really maddening when you stop and think about the injustices here. But you have no control over those things. None of us do. So your choice to focus on the blessing of being there for your child and facing the future with courage is awesome.

You are a good guy, doing significant work. Keep your head up, and I just can't believe that something awesome won't pop up.

Groves
08-17-2012, 09:04 AM
I went to clean out my classroom yesterday and it's amazing how cold people can be. Some people I was really nice to just wouldn't even acknowledge me even though I wasn't let go because of any doing of my own. It just pissed me off to be treated like a bastard stepchild.


Sounds like you did a good job for the district, and likely nobody has anything against you.

What you're experiencing when you went to clean out your room was the I-cannot-face-suffering side of our culture. They're scared and they don't know what to say. Instead of looking you in the eye and talking to you, they'd rather clean that smartboard one more time.

You're fighting a battle they've been training for all their lives, except for when they're training for their next half marathon.

Organize a 10k for your situation. They might come a runnin.

Hope you find a good fit somewhere. Maybe some teacher will go on IR and you'll get a call?

BIG_DADDY
08-17-2012, 10:10 AM
Any chance of teaching in a private school?

vailpass
08-17-2012, 10:13 AM
Very sorry to hear this. SED teachers have a special place in our society IMHO. Hang in there; I hope you don't give up your vocation. There are kids that need you.

Fairplay
08-17-2012, 10:15 AM
Its part of the Hope and Change plan.

Demonpenz
08-17-2012, 10:19 AM
You have support of people on here and atleast you are venting here.

spanky 52
08-17-2012, 10:29 AM
Hang in there. Will be hoping for some positive news from you soon.

Demonpenz
08-17-2012, 10:43 AM
I release! I let go! I coast along with my hands off the controls. I breathe freely without constraints. My energy flows without care alongside the wayward winds.

L.A. Chieffan
08-17-2012, 10:46 AM
My wife is a special ed teacher. it helps with me i think

Cave Johnson
08-17-2012, 10:51 AM
Its part of the Hope and Change plan.

Totally his fault that TBG's district has declining enrollment. Commandant Obama should mandate a set amount of children and limit population mobility. ;)

Swanman
08-17-2012, 10:53 AM
Its part of the Hope and Change plan.

Keep the DC bullshit the fuck out of this thread. Some people just can't fucking help themselves.

TBG, hang in there. I like to think things happen for a reason. It sounds like you are passionate about what you do and that you are good at it and in the end, that is all that matters.

Dr. Facebook Fever
08-17-2012, 10:54 AM
That really sucks. I used to be married to a Special Education teacher (opens door for everyone) and I'm not so fond of HER anymore I have a ton of respect for the profession.

Hang in there and good luck.

Phobia
08-17-2012, 11:24 AM
That really sucks. I used to be married to a Special Education teacher

Cobbler's children or something like that...

LVNHACK
08-17-2012, 12:10 PM
Hang in there TBG, thinks will break your way....

JASONSAUTO
08-17-2012, 12:44 PM
good thoughts headed your way

Buehler445
08-17-2012, 01:45 PM
Keep your head up bud.

Hopefully you can find something. But the reality is that the only thing you can do is keep on and do the best you can. That's all there is to do.

In other news, I'm pretty sure my wife is God's sister. I'm fucking her and that dude fucking hates my ass. It's all I can think of.

Mosbonian
08-17-2012, 06:44 PM
Frank....it's s shame that a good guy like you gets cut in favor of someone who is probably just "pulling down a paycheck". Keep your head up man...there is something for you. Like I am sure others on here will do for you, we will keep you in our thoughts.

This kind of political bullcrap is why I am trying to convince my daughter to graduate HS early. It's not only school politics that are played with how teachers are retained, it's also how the teachers play the students. It's no longer how truly talented the student is, it's how much money your parents kick in to the school coffers that rules where your kid places. Or where the parents are in the local social strata of the community.

BigRedChief
08-17-2012, 07:47 PM
Its part of the Hope and Change plan.:shake: Take this to DC.

okcchief
08-17-2012, 09:07 PM
It always amazes me the money this country spends on useless research projects, putting a rover on Mars or bailing out big business. How about putting some money towards helping local school districts? We are already ass loads in debt, what's a little more.

Sorry to hear about you misfortune. Hope you land on your feet soon.

The Bad Guy
08-19-2012, 03:27 PM
Very sorry to hear this. SED teachers have a special place in our society IMHO. Hang in there; I hope you don't give up your vocation. There are kids that need you.

No, I'm definitely not giving up. I worked hard to get all of my sterling evaluations and will get a job (hopefully soon) with a lucky district.

The Bad Guy
08-19-2012, 03:29 PM
Totally his fault that TBG's district has declining enrollment. Commandant Obama should mandate a set amount of children and limit population mobility. ;)

That's just the clever excuse the administration is using. Down 5% doesn't equal a 30% staff reduction. They want to build their fund balance for next year and the year after, but the administration get their huge salaries, 4% pay increases. Makes no sense. The teachers even took pay freezes last year with the agreement that there would be no furloughs until a new deal could be reached. The district clearly broke the agreement since there's no new contract. Hopefully an arbitrator sees it that way.

Obama really had little to do with this. The bastard gov. of PA is the main one to blame. Won't tax oil companies that are making millions here, but will take tons away from education.

Chocolate Hog
08-19-2012, 03:38 PM
I'm sorry to hear this Frank.

The way the teachers are treated is shitty too. A lot are underpaid and the bad ones are treated just as good as the best.

NewChief
08-19-2012, 03:57 PM
That's just the clever excuse the administration is using. Down 5% doesn't equal a 30% staff reduction. They want to build their fund balance for next year and the year after, but the administration get their huge salaries, 4% pay increases. Makes no sense. The teachers even took pay freezes last year with the agreement that there would be no furloughs until a new deal could be reached. The district clearly broke the agreement since there's no new contract. Hopefully an arbitrator sees it that way.

Obama really had little to do with this. The bastard gov. of PA is the main one to blame. Won't tax oil companies that are making millions here, but will take tons away from education.

What kills me in education are the amount of bureaucrats, paper pushers, and "curriculum administrators" being hired. Our district's CIAA (Curriciulum Instruction Assessment and Alignment) "department" just keeps swelling in numbers year after year. Nevermind that these people have ZERO contact with students. They sit in meetings and "brainstorm" the majority of the time. They're completely out of touch, and it seems their primary job is to justify their jobs.

But yeah, sorry, TBG. I'm lucky to be in a well-funded district and have a solid position there, but a lot of good teachers are getting screwed right now.

Al Bundy
08-19-2012, 04:12 PM
Damn that sucks. I doubt you'll be unemployed for long.

big nasty kcnut
08-19-2012, 06:05 PM
Frank i'm pulling for you and i understand they cut my hours at work and then blame me for it.

BIG_DADDY
08-19-2012, 06:12 PM
What kills me in education are the amount of bureaucrats, paper pushers, and "curriculum administrators" being hired. Our district's CIAA (Curriciulum Instruction Assessment and Alignment) "department" just keeps swelling in numbers year after year. Nevermind that these people have ZERO contact with students. They sit in meetings and "brainstorm" the majority of the time. They're completely out of touch, and it seems their primary job is to justify their jobs.

But yeah, sorry, TBG. I'm lucky to be in a well-funded district and have a solid position there, but a lot of good teachers are getting screwed right now.

Isn't that the very nature of a bureaucracy?

NewChief
08-19-2012, 06:20 PM
Isn't that the very nature of a bureaucracy?

Yup. Pretty much. It's why I'm getting closer and closer to wanting to just abolish the damned DofEd. Education has become the next great governmental money grab. They realize that there's tons to be made, so all the government "servants" (who like to rotate from consulting jobs to government jobs and back) are now loving the whole "ed reform" movement. The amount of money that's being put into tests to show what's "broken" about our education system is equaled only by the amount of money (amazingly directed to the same people doing the testing) who are selling programs to "fix" it.

BossChief
08-19-2012, 07:23 PM
Damn, so Skip finally made that call, eh?

-trying to add a hair of comic relief-

The Bad Guy
08-19-2012, 08:34 PM
Damn, so Skip finally made that call, eh?

-trying to add a hair of comic relief-

Solid joke.

Mr. Laz
08-19-2012, 08:35 PM
Billay can still use you

The Bad Guy
08-19-2012, 08:37 PM
What kills me in education are the amount of bureaucrats, paper pushers, and "curriculum administrators" being hired. Our district's CIAA (Curriciulum Instruction Assessment and Alignment) "department" just keeps swelling in numbers year after year. Nevermind that these people have ZERO contact with students. They sit in meetings and "brainstorm" the majority of the time. They're completely out of touch, and it seems their primary job is to justify their jobs.

But yeah, sorry, TBG. I'm lucky to be in a well-funded district and have a solid position there, but a lot of good teachers are getting screwed right now.

B-I-N-G-O

They gave the assistant superintendent 130k a year to sit on her ass and call curriculum meetings. She's supposed to supervise staff. My observation this year was 3 minutes from the door way and she didn't want to come in my room because she said she had some uncomfortable experiences with some of my ED kids.

The Bad Guy
08-19-2012, 08:38 PM
It's hilarious the head of the school board is a guy who was fired from the district as a custodian because he was stealing cleaning supplies every day and got caught.

Now, he's making the most important decisions for the district.

Makes no fucking sense.

BIG_DADDY
08-19-2012, 08:49 PM
No chance in the private sector?

The Bad Guy
08-19-2012, 08:58 PM
No chance in the private sector?

Not in my area. That's even more corrupt than the school districts.

Lono
08-19-2012, 09:40 PM
Sorry to hear TBG, in Missouri a tenured teacher who is let go because of cuts has to be the first person they hire back when a spot opens up that they are certified for. Doesn't matter if its in same area they were in or not. If they are certified they must be offered the job first. Hope your state has something like that in place.

La literatura
08-19-2012, 09:42 PM
Not in my area. That's even more corrupt than the school districts.

I was going to suggest Catholic schools, but then I realized that they probably don't have much demand for special education teachers.

La literatura
08-19-2012, 09:43 PM
It's hilarious the head of the school board is a guy who was fired from the district as a custodian because he was stealing cleaning supplies every day and got caught.

Now, he's making the most important decisions for the district.

Makes no ****ing sense.

Ahhh, the beauty of democracy. Or something like that.

Dallas Chief
08-19-2012, 10:15 PM
It's hilarious the head of the school board is a guy who was fired from the district as a custodian because he was stealing cleaning supplies every day and got caught.

Now, he's making the most important decisions for the district.

Makes no fucking sense.

How in the blue f*ck does that happen? Local elections I would assume? Sorry for your plight man, can't imagine working for such a broked!ck organization. Wow.

The Bad Guy
08-19-2012, 10:41 PM
Sorry to hear TBG, in Missouri a tenured teacher who is let go because of cuts has to be the first person they hire back when a spot opens up that they are certified for. Doesn't matter if its in same area they were in or not. If they are certified they must be offered the job first. Hope your state has something like that in place.

Yep. That's the same in my situation.

However, if I take a few praxis exams now to get certified in something else, it doesn't count until I was actually hired back.

The Bad Guy
08-19-2012, 10:42 PM
How in the blue f*ck does that happen? Local elections I would assume? Sorry for your plight man, can't imagine working for such a broked!ck organization. Wow.

It's remarkable. The school board there is the biggest bunch of broke dicks ever.

The community votes on the reps for the school board.

The Bad Guy
11-06-2012, 02:31 PM
OP has been updated.

vailpass
11-06-2012, 02:32 PM
Great news.

DeezNutz
11-06-2012, 02:33 PM
Good deal, man. Extra time and flexibility are great assets. Hoping that a permanent position materializes out of this.

Der Flöprer
11-06-2012, 02:33 PM
Glad to hear it's good for now. Will be gladder when it becomes a permanent gig. Good luck dude.

Reerun_KC
11-06-2012, 02:33 PM
OP has been updated.

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ptlyon
11-06-2012, 02:33 PM
Awesome TBG!!! :cheers:

Woodchuck
11-06-2012, 02:34 PM
OP has been updated.

Good for you man. Just in time for Christmas! :clap: I know how it is.

Bwana
11-06-2012, 02:34 PM
OP has been updated.

Good for you dude. I'm glad something came around.

Buehler445
11-06-2012, 02:36 PM
Good for you bud.

teedubya
11-06-2012, 02:38 PM
Congrats... "end of the year"? End of 2012... or end of 12-13 school year?

Either way, the holidays will be less stressful in your home! Glad to hear it.

The Bad Guy
11-06-2012, 02:42 PM
Thanks everyone.

It's until June.

The union grievance is being heard next Monday. The union is convinced they are winning because the district signed a contract saying they wouldn't furlough.

However, they plan to appeal if they lose so it could drag until June/July, which is ideal for me now that I have a perm. spot.

I'm just thrilled to go back to work. Enjoyed the time with my son and got him potty trained, but it's time to go back.

Chief_For_Life58
11-06-2012, 02:47 PM
I hope you taught your son to be a steelers fan or even a eagles fan if you guys live in penn. dont let your son go thru what we chef fans must go thru.


thx again for the ticket brother

R8RFAN
11-06-2012, 02:48 PM
I just need some space to rant and let off some steam. As some of you know, I was furloughed from my job 3 weeks ago as a special education teacher. I just had acquired tenure in the district, built up the program from basically scratch, and was let go because of an enormous amount of cuts in the district that initially happened in early July, but because they screwed up the seniority list, I got bumped by one spot. 3 years of sterling evaluations and the best I got was a voicemail from the superintendent saying I didn't have a job anymore.

I had an interview at another district 2 weeks ago and it went well. They had called my principal that was at my old school and they told him it was between me and another teacher I worked with that was furloughed. The district ended up making their decision based on the fact that this teacher also coached field hockey.

This was the absolute worst ****ing time ever for me to get laid off. Just built a new house, just had a ton of concrete work done at the house just a week before the call. They let me go 3 weeks before the year started, which means all the jobs have basically dried up.

I'm just beyond frustrated and angry. The union is doing next to nothing to get jobs back. I've requested a grievance about the fact they had 2 lottery drawings my initial year. The first drawing I was 4th highest on the list. The 2nd drawing, I was 15th. I also was hired for elementary and they moved me to high school a week before the year started. The lady I beat out for the elementary job, who was only hired after I got moved, is higher than me on the seniority list. My union head doesn't seem to really care about that.

I went to clean out my classroom yesterday and it's amazing how cold people can be. Some people I was really nice to just wouldn't even acknowledge me even though I wasn't let go because of any doing of my own. It just pissed me off to be treated like a bastard stepchild.

Even if I do get a teaching job elsewhere, I'm likely looking at 10-15k paycut.

I'm just really angry and needed to vent tonight.


***UPDATE***

I was called back by the superintendent of the district that furloughed me and they have a long-term sped position available until the end of the year. I accepted it. I go back to my full pay with benefits. While I'm hopeful that a full-time position will present itself, this gives me some security and flexibility.

I'm excited.

Congrats on getting that call...

Phobia
11-06-2012, 02:54 PM
Outstanding news. I could use some of that.

HemiEd
11-06-2012, 03:13 PM
Great news The Bad Guy, hope it turns into a long term full time gig for you.

KC Tattoo
11-06-2012, 05:40 PM
Good for you The Bad Guy good for you. :clap:

pr_capone
11-06-2012, 05:47 PM
Gratz meng!

I will masturbate in your honor tonight.

DaFace
11-06-2012, 05:49 PM
Congrats, man!

stevieray
11-06-2012, 05:54 PM
:rockon:

DenverDanChiefsFan
11-06-2012, 06:38 PM
Congrats. I am still looking since being laid off May 1.

FAX
11-06-2012, 06:58 PM
I'm glad things worked out for you, Mr. The Bad Guy. Very glad.

FAX

cabletech94
11-06-2012, 07:33 PM
good for you!! head up, keeping on with the positive thoughts The Bad Guy!!!

Dayze
11-06-2012, 07:43 PM
If I could post the herp derp guy saying fuuuuuuk yeah, I would.



Nice dude

okcchief
11-06-2012, 08:00 PM
Congrats

Buehler445
11-06-2012, 08:07 PM
Congrats. I am still looking since being laid off May 1.

Are you fucking me? I'm sorry dude.

GloryDayz
11-06-2012, 08:09 PM
Very cool... Enjoy.

Straight, No Chaser
11-07-2012, 06:30 AM
I'm in education too... in a state that is "right to work", no union to speak of. Sounds like you are too ;-)

I would still keep looking if I were you, especially in Feb/April of 2013. You can always say "no". Otherwise, work on a Math or Science cert. that would certainly trump any coaching experience in another interview "tie".

Just wondering though... you're a special ed teacher and you call yourself "The Bad Guy" that's creepy, dude.

Lono
11-07-2012, 08:48 AM
Grats TBG, glad to hear it.

The Bad Guy
05-29-2013, 04:16 PM
Updated the OP.

All 32 teachers have to be re-instated.

Booya.

DaFace
05-29-2013, 04:39 PM
Great news man - congrats!

Phobia
05-29-2013, 05:13 PM
Congrats.

KC Tattoo
05-29-2013, 05:14 PM
Updated the OP.

All 32 teachers have to be re-instated.

Booya.

Kick Ass :thumb:

Guru
05-29-2013, 05:18 PM
Do you get your ignored seniority back too?

MTG#10
05-29-2013, 05:34 PM
Awesome, congrats. They basically just saved a bunch of money for you. Go splurge and stimulate the economy.

BigRedChief
05-29-2013, 05:35 PM
I hope we will look back on this era of blaming teachers for economic issues as a WTF were we thinking era.

Glad to hear teachers are back teaching. Good for you Bad Guy and all your fellow teachers.

DeezNutz
05-29-2013, 05:45 PM
Awesome. Great news, dude.

vailpass
05-29-2013, 06:00 PM
Good deal. Backpay.

rtmike
05-29-2013, 07:32 PM
Right on. Good things happen to good..or in you case bad guy folks.

Mr. Laz
05-29-2013, 08:51 PM
So a Union used some kind of arbitration/lawsuit to force a school district to hire 32 people back?


I wonder which 32 people are going to get fired now to make up for it in the budget.


congrats

Buck
05-29-2013, 08:54 PM
Congrats man!

Double down on black. Playing with the house's money, why not?

Dave Lane
05-29-2013, 09:00 PM
So a Union used some kind of arbitration/lawsuit to force a school district to hire 32 people back?


I wonder which 32 people are going to get fired now to make up for it in the budget.


congrats

Laz loves anything to do with a union.

The Bad Guy
05-29-2013, 09:22 PM
So a Union used some kind of arbitration/lawsuit to force a school district to hire 32 people back?


I wonder which 32 people are going to get fired now to make up for it in the budget.


congrats

No, the union used a contract signed by the district that they wouldn't furlough teachers until a new agreement was reached due to the fact that we took a payfreeze to help the district financially.

No teachers are going to get fired now. The district administrators may not take their typical 5% raise now though.

But more importantly, how about you fist yourself you miserable ****?

The Bad Guy
05-29-2013, 09:24 PM
Congrats man!

Double down on black. Playing with the house's money, why not?

Ha, not a chance.

Since I was recalled, my backpay isn't going to be anything great. I'm just thankful that I will have a job moving forward and my family will have uninterrupted benefits.

Buehler445
05-29-2013, 11:03 PM
Happy for you bud. Congrats.

DaFace
05-29-2013, 11:06 PM
No, the union used a contract signed by the district that they wouldn't furlough teachers until a new agreement was reached due to the fact that we took a payfreeze to help the district financially.

No teachers are going to get fired now. The district administrators may not take their typical 5% raise now though.

But more importantly, how about you fist yourself you miserable ****?

ROFL

Predarat
05-30-2013, 08:36 AM
Awesome news, congrats and glad those asshats finally did the right thing.

ptlyon
05-30-2013, 08:52 AM
Awesome! You can beat the govt! Congrats!

Superturtle
05-30-2013, 09:10 AM
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Fire Me Boy!
05-30-2013, 09:13 AM
But more importantly, how about you fist yourself you miserable ****?

:LOL:

Halfcan
05-30-2013, 10:43 AM
My Mom was a teacher for 30 years. They get nearly zero respect and are underpaid- while the Board of directors make bank for doing nothing. It is a flawed system theat is only getting worse.