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Count Alex's Losses
08-17-2012, 06:36 PM
Now that our #1 WR is signed, how many yards will Cassel throw for this year?

Remember to include matchup nightmare Dexter McCluster's production in your answer.

Flachief58
08-17-2012, 06:36 PM
eleventy billion

BoneKrusher
08-17-2012, 06:38 PM
not enough.

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-17-2012, 06:38 PM
Don't care. Wins please.

Simplicity
08-17-2012, 06:52 PM
Super stud status, of course.

KCrockaholic
08-18-2012, 12:09 AM
I picked 3,900-4,200. But I want to change mine to 3,600 to 3,900.

The running game will have too much attention for him to even have the opportunities to reach over 4,000. We could have close to 2 1,000 yard rushers. So a 4,000 QB wouldn't be possible as long as that QB is Cassel.

BigMeatballDave
08-18-2012, 12:16 AM
I picked 3,900-4,200. But I want to change mine to 3,600 to 3,900.

The running game will have too much attention for him to even have the opportunities to reach over 4,000. We could have close to 2 1,000 yard rushers. So a 4,000 QB wouldn't be possible as long as that QB is Cassel.

Its possible.(Cassel, I know)

But, if you look at Green's yrs that he cracked 4000 when they were running all over everyone.

Mecca
08-18-2012, 12:42 AM
It better be at least 3500 he has 0 excuse with everything around him on offense. The team is not lacking at one offensive position other than his.

KCrockaholic
08-18-2012, 02:21 AM
Its possible.(Cassel, I know)

But, if you look at Green's yrs that he cracked 4000 when they were running all over everyone.

That was Trent Green.

Count Alex's Losses
08-18-2012, 02:23 AM
That was Trent Green.

http://i.imgur.com/Pqeao.gif

OctoberFart
08-18-2012, 02:24 AM
3300 with 17 TD's and 15 INT's.

KCrockaholic
08-18-2012, 02:29 AM
3300 with 17 TD's and 15 INT's.

lol. We didn't ask for Carson Palmer's numbers.

Bowser
08-18-2012, 02:31 AM
3300 with 17 TD's and 15 INT's.

Some Raider fucknut I work with predicted the Chiefs to go 6-10 and finish last in the AFC West. I, and others, told him to put up or shut up, and he didn't have the balls.

OctoberFart
08-18-2012, 02:34 AM
lol. We didn't ask for Carson Palmer's numbers.

That would be more like 4200 22 TD's and 19 INT's.

KcMizzou
08-18-2012, 02:37 AM
Some Raider ****nut I work with predicted the Chiefs to go 6-10 and finish last in the AFC West. I, and others, told him to put up or shut up, and he didn't have the balls.Prison Guard?

KC Tattoo
08-18-2012, 02:39 AM
That would be more like 4200 22 TD's and 19 INT's.

At least four of those 22 TD's are actually pic six for the opponents, decreasing your TD tally to 18 & the INT up to 23.

Munson
08-18-2012, 02:45 AM
I'm gonna say 3,200 yards, which is 200 yards per game. But I wouldn't be shocked if he threw for less than 3,000.

I don't have much faith in him.

A legit franchise QB would throw for 4,000+ yards with the players we have.

Bowser
08-18-2012, 02:48 AM
Prison Guard?

Hahaha, like Raider fans are ever the guards at a prison!

Guru
08-18-2012, 07:56 AM
Based on his averages over the last four seasons and considering the he only played 9 games last season, I don't see him throwing for more than 3300 yards.

Since he became a starter he has only averaged 208 yards per game.

ChiefsNow
08-18-2012, 08:11 AM
He is only allowed to hand off to running backs this year.

cdcox
08-18-2012, 08:19 AM
I voted 3600 to 3900. Marginally skilled QB surrounded by great talent at every position. I'm expecting an Alex D. Smith kind of year.

OnTheWarpath58
08-18-2012, 08:19 AM
In his best season as a Chief, he only threw for 3100, and IIRC, was in the Top 10 for his WR's getting YAC.

So unless he starts throwing the ball downfield regularly, or his WR's go fucking nuts with YAC, I don't see him getting much over 3200.

Which is sad in this era of professional football. 4000 should be a goddamn gimme with these weapons.

-King-
08-18-2012, 08:33 AM
In his best season as a Chief, he only threw for 3100, and IIRC, was in the Top 10 for his WR's getting YAC.

So unless he starts throwing the ball downfield regularly, or his WR's go fucking nuts with YAC, I don't see him getting much over 3200.

Which is sad in this era of professional football. 4000 should be a goddamn gimme with these weapons.

He had Chambers as his #2 receiver that year. Even McCluster is better than Chambers was that year.

That's why I'm thinking between 3700 and 4000 yards.

Its amazing that you think Baldwin Breaston and Hillis will only account for 100 more yards than he had in 2010.
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AustinChief
08-18-2012, 08:42 AM
I voted 3600 to 3900. Marginally skilled QB surrounded by great talent at every position. I'm expecting an Alex D. Smith kind of year.

That's how I voted as well.. I also think Daboll's offense will help him immensely.

OnTheWarpath58
08-18-2012, 08:50 AM
He had Chambers as his #2 receiver that year. Even McCluster is better than Chambers was that year.

That's why I'm thinking between 3700 and 4000 yards.

Its amazing that you think Baldwin Breaston and Hillis will only account for 100 more yards than he had in 2010.
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If he's not willing to throw downfield, it doesn't matter who the WR's are - he's going to depend on YAC.

He may very well throw for 3700. But it's going to be on the legs of his WR's, not on his arm, and we all know it.

BoneKrusher
08-18-2012, 08:56 AM
i'm more concerned with how many TD's and game winning drives he has.

Coogs
08-18-2012, 09:03 AM
He had Chambers as his #2 receiver that year. Even McCluster is better than Chambers was that year.

That's why I'm thinking between 3700 and 4000 yards.

Its amazing that you think Baldwin Breaston and Hillis will only account for 100 more yards than he had in 2010.
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If he does this, we are Super Bowl contenders. I guess it could happen, but I am not holding my breath, because I expect us to feature the run to pass at something along the lines of a 60/40 ratio.

Scorp
08-18-2012, 09:05 AM
Announcer: Casshole takes the snap, screen pass to Bowe, Intercepted.........Touchdown!

BoneKrusher
08-18-2012, 09:06 AM
Announcer: Casshole takes the snap, screen pass to Bowe, Intercepted.........Touchdown!

LMAO

Unsmooth-Moment
08-18-2012, 09:11 AM
3999 with 2600 of those coming after catch

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-18-2012, 09:26 AM
Not sure, but I do know CP will have thier calculators ready furiously deducting the yardage that "doesn't count".

Dayze
08-18-2012, 09:39 AM
I voted for the first option

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-18-2012, 09:46 AM
How could you possibly forget the under 3k option?

Dayze
08-18-2012, 09:47 AM
I think cassel will average about 179-200 per game if that.

Shaid
08-18-2012, 09:50 AM
I was thinking 3500 but I'll take the 3600+ option because it looks like they'll probably use screen more effectively this year. Those are gimme yards.

suds79
08-18-2012, 09:53 AM
Seriously no under 3000 option? The man has yet to complete a full 16 game season with us.

Simplicity
08-18-2012, 10:17 AM
Seriously no under 3000 option? The man has yet to complete a full 16 game season with us.

Even as bad as Cassel is... With all these weapons, it's not going to happen.

Rausch
08-18-2012, 10:36 AM
3180...

Mr. Laz
08-18-2012, 10:40 AM
3,500 yrds, 29 TD, 9 int

Deberg_1990
08-18-2012, 10:43 AM
3200 yards

26 TDs 15 INTs

he will miss his usual 1 or 2 games due to some weird injury.

Luke Warm
08-18-2012, 10:45 AM
3750 yds...30 TDs 19 INTs

Give or take 500 yds.....10 TDs 19 INTs

Pablo
08-18-2012, 10:46 AM
3250
22 TDs
12 INTs

beach tribe
08-18-2012, 11:22 AM
3800yds 29 TDs 12 INTs

Dicky McElephant
08-18-2012, 02:17 PM
3500 yards
27 TDs
10 INTs

Buck
08-18-2012, 02:23 PM
Probably around 2800.

Guru
08-18-2012, 02:30 PM
How could you possibly forget the under 3k option?

Seriously no under 3000 option? The man has yet to complete a full 16 game season with us.

If he can't muster his average of 208 yds per game........

Death2CasselFans
08-18-2012, 02:32 PM
In 2011, Carson Palmer threw for 2753 yards in 10 games. He averaged 275 yards a game.

In 2011, Matt Cassel threw for 1713 yards in 9 games. He averaged 190 yards a game.
In 2010, Matt Cassel threw for 3116 yards in 15 games. He averaged 208 yards a game.
In 2009, Matt Cassel threw for 2924 yards in 15 games. He averaged 195 yards a game.
In 2008, Matt Cassel threw for 3693 yards in 16 games. He averaged 231 yards a game. (his best season)

Source: Yahoo

L.A. Chieffan
08-18-2012, 02:38 PM
In 2012, Carson Palmer threw for 2753 yards in 10 games. He averaged 275 yards a game.

In 2012, Matt Cassel threw for 1713 yards in 9 games. He averaged 190 yards a game.
In 2011, Matt Cassel threw for 3116 yards in 15 games. He averaged 207 yards a game.
In 2008, Matt Cassel threw for 3693 yards in 16 games. He averaged 230 yards a game.

Source: Yahoo

And what about 2010?

L.A. Chieffan
08-18-2012, 02:39 PM
It's not the yardage so much as it is the lack of turnovers and putting his team in a position to win every week.

Death2CasselFans
08-18-2012, 02:42 PM
And what about 2010?

I fixed it now. It lists all year.

mlyonsd
08-18-2012, 02:44 PM
3659 yards
24 TD's
10 INT's

Death2CasselFans
08-18-2012, 03:00 PM
In 2011, Carson Palmer threw for 2753 yards in 10 games. He averaged 275 yards a game.

In 2011, Matt Cassel threw for 1713 yards in 9 games. He averaged 190 yards a game.
In 2010, Matt Cassel threw for 3116 yards in 15 games. He averaged 208 yards a game.
In 2009, Matt Cassel threw for 2924 yards in 15 games. He averaged 195 yards a game.
In 2008, Matt Cassel threw for 3693 yards in 16 games. He averaged 231 yards a game. (his best season)

Source: Yahoo

For comparison

In 2011, Drew Brees threw for 5476 yards in 16 games. He averaged 342 yards a game.
In 2011, Tom Brady threw for 5235 yards in 16 games. He averaged 327 yards a game.
In 2011, Mathew Stafford threw for 5038 yards in 16 games. He averaged 315 yards a game.
In 2011, Eli Manning threw for 4933 yards in 16 games. He averaged 308 yards a game.
In 2011, Aaron Rodgers threw for 4643 yards in 15 games. He averaged 309 yards a a game.

L.A. Chieffan
08-18-2012, 03:13 PM
Haha, let's compare our quarterback to Brees Brady and Manning everybody! Gee, what a loser!

milkman
08-18-2012, 03:28 PM
For comparison

In 2011, Drew Brees threw for 5476 yards in 16 games. He averaged 342 yards a game.
In 2011, Tom Brady threw for 5235 yards in 16 games. He averaged 327 yards a game.
In 2011, Mathew Stafford threw for 5038 yards in 16 games. He averaged 315 yards a game.
In 2011, Eli Manning threw for 4933 yards in 16 games. He averaged 308 yards a game.
In 2011, Aaron Rodgers threw for 4643 yards in 15 games. He averaged 309 yards a a game.

A better comparison, given the offensive philosophy, is Matt Schaub.

He averaged 247 yards in 10 games.
He averged 298 yards in 2010.

Matt Cassel in 2010, the year that Pioli points to as an indicator of Matt Cassel's potential to be good doesn't come close to either of those numbers.

Even more telling is the completion percentages.

Matt Schaub in 2010: 63.6
2011: 61

Matt Cassel in 2010: 58.2
2011: 59.5

If Cassel averages less than 230 ypg, and less than 60% completeion, then this team is exactly where it was in 2010, in spite of all the added talent on both sides of the ball.

DJ's left nut
08-18-2012, 04:08 PM
3,450 yds; 21 TDs, 12 INTs.

DJ's left nut
08-18-2012, 04:09 PM
I voted 3600 to 3900. Marginally skilled QB surrounded by great talent at every position. I'm expecting an Alex D. Smith kind of year.

SANDBOX BOWL CHAMPIONSHIP!

O.city
08-18-2012, 04:31 PM
If cassel could average something like 260 per game it would be a tremendously successful season. I just don't see a way we can beat good teams with him rarely topping the 220 yard mark

Bowser
08-18-2012, 04:31 PM
5,532

13 TD's
38 INT's

BoneKrusher
08-18-2012, 04:34 PM
5,532

13 TD's
38 INT's

my god i hope not.

Bowser
08-18-2012, 04:35 PM
my god i hope not.

Yeah, you're right. I menat 19 TD's and 42 INTs

Bowser
08-18-2012, 04:35 PM
You guys meant the next two seasons, right?

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-18-2012, 05:00 PM
If he can't muster his average of 208 yds per game........

I was thinking injuries

BoneKrusher
08-18-2012, 05:01 PM
Yeah, you're right. I menat 19 TD's and 42 INTs

LMAO

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-18-2012, 05:01 PM
5,532

13 TD's
38 INT's

Carson Palmer?

BossChief
08-18-2012, 05:23 PM
938 yards and 6 touchdowns with 10 picks.

Pulled at halftime of the Bucs game.

BossChief
08-18-2012, 05:27 PM
Seriously though...I expect him to have a year similar to 2008 with the Patriots.

3693 yards
21 touchdowns
11 picks
63% comp
7.2 YPA

Maybe a few more touchdowns with maybe a few more picks.

Bowser
08-18-2012, 05:30 PM
As OTWP said earlier, there is NO reason for even a halfway competent QB to not throw for 4000 yardes with these weapons and this line.

I expect him to hit the 3500-3800 mark, provided he stays healthy. It would be nice to see 25+ TD's, but I'm not getting ahead of myself here.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan
08-18-2012, 05:41 PM
I'm guessing around 3700.

With our running game, he may not actually throw that much, but I'm convinced the team will be productive none the less.

As long as he picks up that 3rd down when needed, I don't care if he only throws for 1000 yards, as long as those 1000 are critical yards. I don't give a damn about putting up 5000 yards primarily on 1st and 2nd downs.

BWillie
08-18-2012, 05:52 PM
Now that our #1 WR is signed, how many yards will Cassel throw for this year?

Remember to include matchup nightmare Dexter McCluster's production in your answer.

I don't know, but with all the damn weapons he has his QB rating should be very close to 100. Any serviceable quarterback with these weapons should be able to do that in the NFL in this day and age.

mlyonsd
08-18-2012, 07:05 PM
I don't know, but with all the damn weapons he has his QB rating should be very close to 100. Any serviceable quarterback with these weapons should be able to do that in the NFL in this day and age.Yup. Make or break for Cassel.

pimpchief
08-18-2012, 09:19 PM
4500 yards 35 td 10 int

This is his year.

Count Alex's Losses
08-18-2012, 09:26 PM
Checkdowns all day.

3200 yards.

ArrowheadMagic
08-18-2012, 09:31 PM
Checkdowns all day.

3200 yards.

7.89 yards per attempt tonight. Pretty effective checkdowns.

Marcellus
08-18-2012, 09:32 PM
Checkdowns all day.

3200 yards.


Surprise you already flip flopped after 1 half of a preseason game. LMAO

You don't have an ounce of balls to stand by anything. You change your mind like a woman. No surprise.

Munson
08-18-2012, 09:36 PM
I'm gonna say 3,200 yards, which is 200 yards per game. But I wouldn't be shocked if he threw for less than 3,000.

I don't have much faith in him.

A legit franchise QB would throw for 4,000+ yards with the players we have.

After tonight, I'm gonna revise my prediction to 2,500 yards.

Count Alex's Losses
08-18-2012, 09:39 PM
Surprise you already flip flopped after 1 half of a preseason game. LMAO

You don't have an ounce of balls to stand by anything. You change your mind like a woman. No surprise.

Go fuck yourself. I subtracted 100 yards from my vote in the poll.

Count Alex's Losses
08-18-2012, 09:40 PM
7.89 yards per attempt tonight. Pretty effective checkdowns.

Kevin Boss will average 15 YPC this season, and go off for 1,000 yards.

Dude is legit.

Marcellus
08-18-2012, 09:41 PM
Go **** yourself. I subtracted 100 yards from my vote in the poll.

Not an ounce of balls. Not 1oz.

ArrowheadMagic
08-18-2012, 09:47 PM
Kevin Boss will average 15 YPC this season, and go off for 1,000 yards.

Dude is legit.

Then he is working towards his teams strengths. 7.89 over a season puts him in some lofty rankings. Highly effective. Solid 2 minute drill.

L.A. Chieffan
08-18-2012, 10:59 PM
The same people who said don't overreact over last week's game are now overreacting this game.

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-19-2012, 08:58 AM
Not an ounce of balls. Not 1oz.

Mods, name change to the Eunuch...ohhh Varys would be a good one for Clay.

Tribal Warfare
12-20-2012, 02:55 AM
Boom, got this right!!!!!!!!!

Guru
12-20-2012, 03:04 AM
Boom, got this right!!!!!!!!!

A lot of us did. Wasn't much of a stretch really. LMAO

Tribal Warfare
12-20-2012, 03:11 AM
A lot of us did. Wasn't much of a stretch really. LMAO

over half thought he would have an average to above average year, and not this complete bloody anus of a season.

Guru
12-20-2012, 03:13 AM
over half thought he would have an average to above average year, and not this complete bloody anus of a season.

Well, there is that. You can't fix stupid though.:D

CrazyPhuD
12-20-2012, 04:22 AM
I don't know I wouldn't count him out, stanzi goes down and he can still hit 4500+ yards! He is a pro-bowl QB afterall!

Guru
12-20-2012, 06:09 AM
I don't know I wouldn't count him out, stanzi goes down and he can still hit 4500+ yards! He is a pro-bowl QB afterall!

I look forward to never having to hear that again.

Count Alex's Losses
12-20-2012, 07:59 AM
Casshole was on pace for 3,196 yards, so the first option was probably right.

FYI, his project season stats for a full year based on his 9 games this season:

58.1 percent, 3,196 yards, 11 TD, 21 INT, 12 fumbles, 34 sacks. 67.2 rating

notorious
12-20-2012, 08:01 AM
The following people need to exit the room:

-King-, Canofbier, Chieftain58, Goodys, KCrockaholic, Molitoth, Oregon chief, Strongside, Unsmooth-Moment

O.city, pimpchief

CJizzles, KCtotheSB, L.A. Chieffan, Simplicity, threebag02

Count Alex's Losses
12-20-2012, 08:02 AM
Some Raider fucknut I work with predicted the Chiefs to go 6-10 and finish last in the AFC West. I, and others, told him to put up or shut up, and he didn't have the balls.

Neither did you. :D

KILLER_CLOWN
12-20-2012, 08:03 AM
I figured complete crap, only missed it by that much... heh

Count Alex's Losses
12-20-2012, 08:03 AM
3800yds 29 TDs 12 INTs

LMAO

BigBeauford
12-20-2012, 08:54 AM
That's how I voted as well.. I also think Daboll's offense will help him immensely.

LOLx1000

notorious
12-20-2012, 08:56 AM
Why did people think he was going to do well when there was absolutely no evidence to point to?


Blind homers.

Chiefspants
12-20-2012, 09:03 AM
Some Raider ****nut I work with predicted the Chiefs to go 6-10 and finish last in the AFC West. I, and others, told him to put up or shut up, and he didn't have the balls.

Looks like you dodged a bullet there.

Guru
12-21-2012, 03:24 AM
Why did people think he was going to do well when there was absolutely no evidence to point to?


Blind homers.

The question of the century.

htismaqe
12-21-2012, 08:13 AM
Why did people think he was going to do well when there was absolutely no evidence to point to?


Blind homers.

Probably because of the mirage that was 2010.