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pr_capone
08-21-2012, 04:57 PM
http://www.chatsports.com/michigan-wolverines/a/Former-Michigan-player-Nearly-half-the-team-was-stoned-during-Appalachian-State-loss-10-2-3043


Former Michigan player: "Nearly half the team was stoned during Appalachian State loss"

In an exclusive interview with a former Michigan player, who came to Michigan as a freshman in 2005, for a story coming later this fall on the transition from Lloyd Carr to Rich Rodriguez, I was told some very disturbing information regarding the 2007 Michigan football team.

In a shocking revelation, this former player told me that over half of Michigan’s defensive starters and several key offensive starters partied deep into the night the night before the 2007 Michigan vs. Appalachian State game, then smoked marijuana hours before kickoff in an effort to “see how bad we can beat ‘em up if we are stoned.” The player said that the Michigan secondary and linebackers were the main participants of this group, but the ring leader was an explosive offensive playmaker, who would later be suspended during his Michigan career for failing a drug test.

According to this source, the 2007 spring and summer was one big party for the Michigan football team, with very little participation in voluntary off-season workouts, a big change from the prior season when nearly the entire team worked out together and stayed away from the summer party scene. “There was a perception that we were going to be so good in ’07 that everyone kind of thought the entire season was going to be a breeze, we would go undefeated for sure” said the former player. “There were two different teams that off-season it seems. A lot of the Ohio (high school) guys and guys from west coast stuck together, and were really into the party scene, the Michigan (high school) players and seniors were the other group. The really odd thing is that I don’t think Chad (Henne) saw any of the receivers from the time spring ball ended until the first day of fall camp. We were just a bunch of guys with our own agendas and no sense of team. Once (LaMarr) Woodley and (David) Harris left after ’06, all leadership was gone on the team.

“Mike Hart tried to be a leader, but a lot of guys disliked him and resented him behind his back. Chad (Henne) or Jake (Long) really should have stepped up when they saw what was going on, but never did. Its funny that those guys all came back for their senior seasons to win a National Title, but no one ever did anything to make sure that would happen. It all came crashing down on Sept. 1, App State day.”

The entire week leading up to the Appalachian State game was a party, it seems: “Everyone went out Thursday night prior to the game. Like, everyone. I remember some girl asking a few of the players if they were worried about the game Saturday and maybe they shouldn’t be getting so messed up, all the players around her just started laughing hysterically. It was like all my teammates thought we were playing a junior high school team on Saturday.

“The night before the game, everyone was smoking pot and having fun at the team hotel, no coaches were bothering us. The next day, (game day), one offensive player in particular was the ring leader and was messing around trying to convince all the other guys that we could beat these guys stoned and how crazy it would be to be all messed up and still ‘drop 50 on these fools’. For some reason, there was a ton of people who joined in. From what I saw and was told afterwards, 6 defensive starters and 3 offensive starters smoked up that morning. One guy in particular who I know did is the one who made the biggest error of the game and cost us a chance to win. I wonder why”

When facing Appalachian State, Michigan players nor coaches took them too seriously. “The coaches barely even game planned for App State regardless. We didn’t prepare any differently nor see any tape of their offense during game week. We were working on normal prep and facing our offense. Armani Edwards was having a field day on us because we didn’t even know he was a fast dual-threat guy. The whole week is an embarrassment. Starting that day, I never enjoyed playing football at Michigan again. That was the day that Michigan football died. Hopefully Hoke fully revives it. I know he is almost there, and that is awesome to see.”

The week following Appalachian State, Michigan was destroyed by Oregon 39-7, giving up 32 straight points after briefly leading 7-3.

It pains me to write this article. The source of the story will be revealed in a November piece called “The Transition: Carr to Rich”. For the record, the player refused to name individual players.

I can't even begin to fathom playing pickup football in that state... much less a real game with a real outcome.

Chocolate Hog
08-21-2012, 05:01 PM
Must have been some really good weed

lewdog
08-21-2012, 05:03 PM
Nice excuse douchebags from Michigan...but realistically you got your ass handed to you from a Division I-AA school. Suck it cock bags!!!!

Inmem58
08-21-2012, 05:03 PM
Let the Hali jokes begin.

Bowser
08-21-2012, 05:08 PM
Keg in KC is thrilled to read this.

Shogun
08-21-2012, 05:10 PM
Me too ex michigan state player, me too.

Lzen
08-21-2012, 05:20 PM
Nice excuse douchebags from Michigan...but realistically you got your ass handed to you from a Division I-AA school. Suck it cock bags!!!!

What's so hard to believe about this? You know Michigan had superior athletes. When upsets like this happen it is usually due to poor coaching, poor discipline, attitude of whatever. Sounds believable to me.

lewdog
08-21-2012, 05:28 PM
What's so hard to believe about this? You know Michigan had superior athletes. When upsets like this happen it is usually due to poor coaching, poor discipline, attitude of whatever. Sounds believable to me.

I don't know if you could tell but I hate the University of Michigan. ROFL

Anyway, it seems like "superior" teams like to always have some excuse when losing to a supposed "inferior" team. Poor coaching and discipline sure, but give some credit to the opposition, that team was the I-AA national champion.

Did I mention I hate U of Michigan?

3rd&48ers
08-21-2012, 05:33 PM
Nice excuse douchebags from Michigan...but realistically you got your ass handed to you from a Division I-AA school. Suck it cock bags!!!!

That was the biggest moment ever for that school, My ex went to school there and I would drive up on the weekends, it's a big school for future school teachers.

BillSelfsTrophycase
08-21-2012, 05:36 PM
I was gonna beat Appalachian State

But then I got high

bowener
08-21-2012, 05:36 PM
Granted it was high school ball, but I played with some guys that would only play high. Especially basketball. I didn't question it much since they were pretty fucking good.

lewdog
08-21-2012, 05:44 PM
That was the biggest moment ever for that school, My ex went to school there and I would drive up on the weekends, it's a big school for future school teachers.

Awesome school and great football tradition. We played them in Montana in a December playoff game in 2009. Temperature at 0 degrees, winds at 30+ mph, wind chill of -20, blizzard like conditions. The best game I have ever seen and their fans were just awesome, even after they lost. Much respect.


http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg251/lewdog_5/App-State-line.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg251/lewdog_5/armanti.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg251/lewdog_5/grizvsapp.jpg

Dante84
08-21-2012, 05:48 PM
So who was the "key offensive playmaker?"

And who was the guy who "made the error to lose the game?"

Setsuna
08-21-2012, 05:49 PM
LOL. The Big Ten is such a joke. What SEC team won the Nat'l Championship that year again? I forget. They wouldn't have held their jock.

Frazod
08-21-2012, 05:49 PM
I was gonna beat Appalachian State

But then I got high

LMAO

3rd&48ers
08-21-2012, 05:50 PM
Nice pics

ohiobronco2
08-21-2012, 06:10 PM
LOL. The Big Ten is such a joke. What SEC team won the Nat'l Championship that year again? I forget. They wouldn't have held their jock.

What I find comical is the year Michigan lost to Appalachian St., they beat the Gators in their bowl game. I guess Appalachian St. > Michigan> Florida. :p

BTW-I fucking hate Michigan.

Mugalug
08-21-2012, 06:22 PM
To test this validity of the article, I was gonna get baked, go find an old copy of NCAA and replicate the game. I'll do it later, though.

Dayze
08-21-2012, 06:25 PM
I remember watching that casually while almost dozing off in my cave. Needless to say I was wide awake the 4th qtr

AustinChief
08-21-2012, 07:07 PM
For all you U-M haters(jealous much?) the CURRENT team has a REAL coach and a much better attitude...

For example... 22 veteran players went through leadership training with the Navy SEALS this offseason...

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5854/seals.jpg

Gonna be a tough season this year though... hell, we OPEN with Alabama at Cowboys Stadium in a week and a half.

Setsuna
08-21-2012, 08:29 PM
For all you U-M haters(jealous much?) the CURRENT team has a REAL coach and a much better attitude...

For example... 22 veteran players went through leadership training with the Navy SEALS this offseason...

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5854/seals.jpg

Gonna be a tough season this year though... hell, we OPEN with Alabama at Cowboys Stadium in a week and a half.

They all look high to me....:hmmm:

Garcia Bronco
08-21-2012, 09:25 PM
The Big Ten is a cess pool of bullshit. Geeze/

DTLB58
08-21-2012, 10:24 PM
For all you U-M haters(jealous much?) the CURRENT team has a REAL coach and a much better attitude...

For example... 22 veteran players went through leadership training with the Navy SEALS this offseason...

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5854/seals.jpg

Gonna be a tough season this year though... hell, we OPEN with Alabama at Cowboys Stadium in a week and a half.

And few thought Tamba wouldn't get busted either so.....We have learned just because they are athletes and on our favorite teams that don't make a difference.

Frosty
08-22-2012, 11:05 AM
Keg in KC is thrilled to read this.

Speaking of Keg in KC, where the heck is he? It's been a while since he has posted and it doesn't look like he has even logged on since the Fourth of July. :shrug: