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Frankie
09-01-2012, 01:24 PM
Our D might well end up a good one as the season progresses. But I'm very very worried about the first game. Not just to lose, but to lose discouragingly big.

1- Our DL while solid has not shown signs of wreaking havoc in the opponents' backfield. Yes I'm told that's the style of 34 Romeo plays. But wait....

2- Without Tamba Hali Ryan will have all day to throw, especially considering point 1.

3- The thought of Roddy White, Julio Jones, and Gonzo, against our depleted secondary stresses me to almost puking.

This is gonna be one of those games when we see passes completed against our D with scary consistency. The only way we have any chance to win this is if we can manage long time consuming run heavy drives that would keep the Atlanta O on the bench for the majority of the game. Maybe that's why Daboll was emphasizing the run in the last preseason game so much.

Tell me something hopeful.

Setsuna
09-01-2012, 01:25 PM
You will.

BigMeatballDave
09-01-2012, 01:25 PM
Take a Xanax

Shogun
09-01-2012, 01:26 PM
We have Matt Cassel.

Bowser
09-01-2012, 01:26 PM
You mean our depleted D (no Tamba, Flowers, DJ, and Lewis hurt) and 1991 offense isn't filling you full of confidence against a team that can score pretty much when they want?

Brock
09-01-2012, 01:27 PM
I'm reminded of how we were going to get murdered by San Francisco.

Inmem58
09-01-2012, 01:28 PM
We have Matt Cassel.

This /thread

SNR
09-01-2012, 01:28 PM
Join the fucking club

New World Order
09-01-2012, 01:28 PM
Shrugs shoulders

plbrdude
09-01-2012, 01:28 PM
we will not get murdered by atlanta because they are not killers. they may wound us very badly, but they will not murder us.

why can't we win?

Saccopoo
09-01-2012, 01:30 PM
Atlanta sucks and are a bunch of chokers.

As well, Gonzalez will be burdened with much remorse and longing in his return to Kansas City, and will secretly meet with the Chiefs coaching staff at an undisclosed KC BBQ joint, giving them Atlanta's playbook that he wrote in succulent BBQ sauce on a napkin.

Or, in channeling the ghost of Hank Stram, Daboll goes retro and plays the wishbone with Charles, Hillis and McCluster the whole game. Not remotely knowing how to defend such a formation, Atlanta's defense crumbles and the Chiefs set a single game NFL rushing record.

Or, Cassel and McCluster form a symbiotic, telepathic bond, enabling them to be one single, fabulous football entity, perfectly timing every single route, providing the Chiefs offense with first down after first down, not punting once in the game, and dominating the clock and scoreboard.

Or, Matt Ryan's head falls off right before the coin flip.

New World Order
09-01-2012, 01:31 PM
It's going to be Week 1 Buffalo at Kc v2.0

Spongeblack Bobtard
09-01-2012, 01:34 PM
Worried: Someone tell me why we won't get murdered by Atlanta


Their offensive line sucks.

Their defense is soft and looks like the worst tackling defense in the league.

They have no MLB.

They have no safeties.

Ryan chokes in big games.

He's 0-2 when starting the season on the road.

The Falcons have never won at Arrowhead.

DA_T_84
09-01-2012, 01:36 PM
Remember when Frankie ruined the season last year by posting some crazy shit before game 1?

Then Berry fucked up his knee.

Goddamnit.

jd1020
09-01-2012, 01:37 PM
Only thing I can think of is Charles and Hillis going off and keeping the Atlanta offense on the sideline.

BoneKrusher
09-01-2012, 01:37 PM
We have Matt Cassel.

not to worry.

Phobia
09-01-2012, 01:40 PM
I'm not worried about anything right now. Outside of missing personnel, I don't know anything about how this team is going to perform in a real game and I don't think anybody else really does either.

DTLB58
09-01-2012, 01:41 PM
we will not get murdered by atlanta because they are not killers. they may wound us very badly, but they will not murder us.

why can't we win?

And cause Ray Lewis doesn't play for the Falcons and this game isn't IN Atlanta. :D

DA_T_84
09-01-2012, 01:42 PM
Remember when Frankie ruined the season last year by posting some crazy shit before game 1?

Then Berry ****ed up his knee.

Goddamnit.

Yup. He did this last year also.

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=249755

New World Order
09-01-2012, 01:42 PM
Their offensive line sucks.

Their defense is soft and looks like the worst tackling defense in the league.

They have no MLB.

They have no safeties.

Ryan chokes in big games.

He's 0-2 when starting the season on the road.

The Falcons have never won at Arrowhead.


Buffalo had a below .500 year and they beat us 40-7

BoneKrusher
09-01-2012, 01:42 PM
I'm not worried about anything right now. Outside of missing personnel, I don't know anything about how this team is going to perform in a real game and I don't think anybody else really does either.

you're right, no one really knows but the last three preseason games have a lot of KC fans scared.

SNR
09-01-2012, 01:43 PM
Remember when Frankie ruined the season last year by posting some crazy shit before game 1?

Then Berry fucked up his knee.

Goddamnit.He did the same thing the year Trent Green got concussed against Cincy. "I'm worried about what happens if Trent Green goes down"

Hoover
09-01-2012, 01:44 PM
I'm not worried about anything right now. Outside of missing personnel, I don't know anything about how this team is going to perform in a real game and I don't think anybody else really does either.
This.

The only thing I'm confident about is our ability to run the ball.

We ran the ball well with the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd strings.

So, I expect us to run the ball well. So well, Hillis is my #2 RB in one league. :)

Big Smoke
09-01-2012, 01:47 PM
SOB. JFC. KFC.

TrickyNicky
09-01-2012, 01:48 PM
It's cool, bro. I just played this on Madden. We got this.

L.A. Chieffan
09-01-2012, 01:52 PM
Ryan is overrated

KC Tattoo
09-01-2012, 01:55 PM
Meh. They said Atlanta had the number one rushing D at the time.
They said they had this QB that would run circles around our defense & at the time our defense wasn't too good.

That day we posted a 56 to 10 victory on the dirty birds & had 8 rushing TDs. That day was a good day.

Remember from the 50 anything can happen ;)


we didn't have matt fucking cassel that day:doh!::banghead::cuss:

JD10367
09-01-2012, 01:55 PM
The early lines have Atlanta favored at -2 to -2.5 in most places.

They must really consider Arrowhead to be a touchdown's difference, 'cause I would've expected the line to be more like -9.

mcaj22
09-01-2012, 01:59 PM
Their offensive line sucks.

Their defense is soft and looks like the worst tackling defense in the league.

They have no MLB.

They have no safeties.

Ryan chokes in big games.

He's 0-2 when starting the season on the road.

The Falcons have never won at Arrowhead.

Falcons have one of the best secondaries in the league. It's their LBers that suck and their d-line is overrated.

Chiefs Pantalones
09-01-2012, 02:02 PM
JMO, but I think we're gonna milk the F out of time of possession with Hillis, Charles and short to intermediate passes. I don't think the Falcons' offense will get going just on the account of not being able to get into a rhythm. We're really gonna need the 12th man as well. I mean 90's style. Not like lately.

New World Order
09-01-2012, 02:09 PM
The early lines have Atlanta favored at -2 to -2.5 in most places.

They must really consider Arrowhead to be a touchdown's difference, 'cause I would've expected the line to be more like -9.



The public is pounding Atlanta, this is actually a good sign

bowener
09-01-2012, 02:11 PM
Falcons have one of the best secondaries in the league. It's their LBers that suck and their d-line is overrated.

Matt Cassel's wet dream. Dump offs and flats all day long, baby!!

BoneKrusher
09-01-2012, 02:15 PM
Matt Cassel's wet dream. Dump offs and flats all day long, baby!!

yeah, Cassel lives for these games, made the pro bowl doing it in 2010 till NFL defenses figured it out..

L.A. Chieffan
09-01-2012, 02:21 PM
We have the better Matt QB

mcaj22
09-01-2012, 02:24 PM
We have the better Matt QB

the sad part is coming from you I think you actually believe what you typed.

KCrockaholic
09-01-2012, 02:25 PM
Their offensive line sucks.

Their defense is soft and looks like the worst tackling defense in the league.

They have no MLB.

They have no safeties.

Ryan chokes in big games.

He's 0-2 when starting the season on the road.

The Falcons have never won at Arrowhead.

I like those last two.

FWIW Romeo is 0-4 as HC in season openers. Of course, that's with the Browns.

L.A. Chieffan
09-01-2012, 02:27 PM
the sad part is coming from you I think you actually believe what you typed.

If they swapped teams 3 years ago I think Cassell could have easily done a better job with that offense

beach tribe
09-01-2012, 02:27 PM
Because Chales, and Hillis are going to be unstoppable on the ground, and it will open up the PA passing. Bowe, and Berry are going to have big games, and Houston is going to pick up where he left off last season, and murder their RT.

Shaid
09-01-2012, 02:28 PM
Every year we start out looking like crap, why would this year be any different?

Guru
09-01-2012, 02:29 PM
if we get murdered we go 0-16 be default and get a QB next year. Nah. I think we just get beat in this game.

mcaj22
09-01-2012, 02:29 PM
If they swapped teams 3 years ago I think Cassell could have easily done a better job with that offense

and Matt Ryan would have taken that stacked Patriots team to the Super Bowl that Cassel could only go 11-5 with. What's your point?

|Zach|
09-01-2012, 02:34 PM
Don't be such a coward Frankie.

ChiefsNow
09-01-2012, 02:38 PM
Run in midair ,Run in midair,Run in midair,Run in midair,Pass in midair,Run in midair,Run in midair,Run in midair,Run in midair, pass in midair.

Hog Farmer
09-01-2012, 02:43 PM
Because the Atlanta Falcons team Jet will most likely break apart in mid air !

Exoter175
09-01-2012, 02:43 PM
As long as we don't start the game off at home with a run, run, run, punt we will stand a good chance at winning. When we get into a rhythm early at Arrowhead, things just tend to click for us. Ex: 2010 vs. San Francsisco

New World Order
09-01-2012, 02:54 PM
Run in midair ,Run in midair,Run in midair,Run in midair,Pass in midair,Run in midair,Run in midair,Run in midair,Run in midair, pass in midair.



lol

KILLER_CLOWN
09-01-2012, 02:55 PM
Preseason doesn't count, we were holding back for the regular season...Yes I know it's lame and highly unlikely but there is hope.

BoneKrusher
09-01-2012, 02:57 PM
the sad part is coming from you I think you actually believe what you typed.

gawd i hope not.

BoneKrusher
09-01-2012, 02:59 PM
As long as we don't start the game off at home with a run, run, run, punt we will stand a good chance at winning. When we get into a rhythm early at Arrowhead, things just tend to click for us. Ex: 2010 vs. San Francsisco

it's gonna be that or a two yard dumpoffs.
there's NO WAY Daboll will let Matt attempt a throw 15 yards deep vs this secondary.

Ace Gunner
09-01-2012, 03:00 PM
Look at the bright side, you won't have to watch Michael Turner dragging the entire Chiefs defense 10 yards a pop:doh!:

They've been working on a screen pass game, this Chiefs defense isn't good with that. They have a good RB in Jaquizz Rodgers that likes to catch out the backfield and he can go.

They'll use that short game to get the long passing game going or visa versa.


Here's a lil blurb on the Falcons pre season;

http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp12/story/_/id/8297078/atlanta-falcons-pass-first-offense-limit-michael-turner-carries

L.A. Chieffan
09-01-2012, 03:29 PM
and Matt Ryan would have taken that stacked Patriots team to the Super Bowl that Cassel could only go 11-5 with. What's your point?

Don't think so, these falcon teams are just as stacked on offense and Ryan is 0-3 in the postseason

Gadzooks
09-01-2012, 03:32 PM
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Ace Gunner
09-01-2012, 03:36 PM
Don't think so, these falcon teams are just as stacked on offense and Ryan is 0-3 in the postseason

Well, the Chiefs are a playoff caliber team, I guess. So, maybe they have a chance.

Two players I think will be pivital in this game -- Matt Cassel & Dontari Poe.

If those two get going, the Chiefs have a chance.

Jamaal & Hillis will have some success, but in order for the Chiefs to win I believe they need to score twice or more in the air and sack Matt Ryan 3 times. Poe may not get a sack, but if he can pressure from that RDE position Houston could get it done.

Priest31kc
09-01-2012, 03:37 PM
Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher
Crennel says Derrick Johnson should be ready to play vs. Atlanta

Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher
Also sounds hopeful Flowers can play vs. Falcons

Chiefs Pantalones
09-01-2012, 03:38 PM
Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher
Crennel says Derrick Johnson should be ready to play vs. Atlanta

Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher
Also sounds hopeful Flowers can play vs. Falcons

For the mother fucking win. Love you Priest.

Dallas Chief
09-01-2012, 03:38 PM
Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher
Crennel says Derrick Johnson should be ready to play vs. Atlanta

Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher
Also sounds hopeful Flowers can play vs. Falcons

This and a home game. Maybe?

Frankie
09-01-2012, 03:38 PM
Remember when Frankie ruined the season last year by posting some crazy shit before game 1?

Then Berry ****ed up his knee.

Goddamnit.LOL. So now I'm to blame for our fucked up season last year.

He did the same thing the year Trent Green got concussed against Cincy. "I'm worried about what happens if Trent Green goes down"
http://static-l3.blogcritics.org/11/04/05/156353/joe-wilson-you-lie.jpg :D

This.

The only thing I'm confident about is our ability to run the ball.

We ran the ball well with the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd strings.

So, I expect us to run the ball well. So well, Hillis is my #2 RB in one league. :)

Falcons have one of the best secondaries in the league. It's their LBers that suck and their d-line is overrated.

If we don't go to almost exclusively runs, Daboll should be fired on the spot.

Chiefs Pantalones
09-01-2012, 03:39 PM
LOL. So now I'm to blame for our ****ed up season last year.


http://static-l3.blogcritics.org/11/04/05/156353/joe-wilson-you-lie.jpg :D





If we don't go to almost exclusively runs, Daboll should be fired on the spot.

Thanks a lot, Frankie. You kill babies too, don't you?

KCtotheSB
09-01-2012, 03:40 PM
DJ and Flowers will certainly help. Given their latest performances though (if you take much stock into preseason), I don't see how anyone can have confidence in this team suddenly flicking a switch and sticking with the Falcons.

Priest31kc
09-01-2012, 03:40 PM
For the mother fucking win. Love you Priest.

:)

Arrowhead Pride ‏@ArrowheadPride
Romeo is hoping DJ and Flowers will be ready for Week 1. Can't say for sure, still waiting for practice. Lewis unlikely to be ready Week 1.

Lewis unlikely to play however...

I'm good with Elam for a few weeks max...

Just Passin' By
09-01-2012, 04:03 PM
Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher
Crennel says Derrick Johnson should be ready to play vs. Atlanta

Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher
Also sounds hopeful Flowers can play vs. Falcons

So that DJ injury wasn't particularly significant, then?

Inmem58
09-01-2012, 04:05 PM
So that DJ injury wasn't particularly significant, then?

I would think it was a bad twist, that left him sore. You can twist an ankle pretty bad to where it's not a sprain, but hurts like 3-4 days later.

Mr. Laz
09-01-2012, 04:08 PM
pretty much our only chance to win against Atlanta is in the trenches.

If we dominate at the LOS then we have a chance.

If we don't then i expect Ryan to throw for 400+ yards which will make our running game worthless.

Deberg_1990
09-01-2012, 04:09 PM
Its just 1 game at the beginning of September, I want them to win of course, but if we lose, its not that big a deal in the grand scheme. and its an interconference game as well, technically the least important.


But somehow, CP will make it out to be "The Sky is falling" if we lose.

Dayze
09-01-2012, 04:16 PM
Buffalo had a below .500 year and they beat us 40-7

Eh...details details

Pasta Giant Meatball
09-01-2012, 04:19 PM
I'm reminded of how we were going to get murdered by San Francisco.

....and San Diego. Same bullshit thread different year.

You guys look at every negative the team has and spin it wildly out of cotrol all the while propping the opponent up like they are a 22 deep with All Pro Super Team.

JASONSAUTO
09-01-2012, 04:25 PM
....and San Diego. Same bullshit thread different year.

You guys look at every negative the team has and spin it wildly out of cotrol all the while propping the opponent up like they are a 22 deep with All Pro Super Team. I thought every other team in the league is 22 deep all pro super teams.

Only we suck
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JASONSAUTO
09-01-2012, 04:26 PM
Then the midgets
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Pasta Giant Meatball
09-01-2012, 04:27 PM
I thought every other team in the league is 22 deep all pro super teams.

Only we suck
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It's the Planet. Bengals, Bills, and Bucs are emerging powers dontcha know

JASONSAUTO
09-01-2012, 04:34 PM
It's the Planet. Bengals, Bills, and Bucs are emerging powers dontcha know
They all have proven franchise qb's though...
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Pasta Giant Meatball
09-01-2012, 04:41 PM
until midget rape

BoneKrusher
09-01-2012, 04:53 PM
Then the midgets
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went to Buffalo

Pasta Giant Meatball
09-01-2012, 04:54 PM
in search of

BoneKrusher
09-01-2012, 04:58 PM
their first victory

whoman69
09-01-2012, 05:08 PM
Maybe we can make up a word that would explain it, like redonculous.

Frankie
09-01-2012, 05:13 PM
Its just 1 game at the beginning of September, I want them to win of course, but if we lose, its not that big a deal in the grand scheme. and its an interconference game as well, technically the least important.


But somehow, CP will make it out to be "The Sky is falling" if we lose.

my concern is not just losing. It's LOSING big and getting humiliated. The kind that takes the heart of a young team.

A Salt Weapon
09-01-2012, 05:16 PM
So that DJ injury wasn't particularly significant, then?

I heard it was just a hemoroid.
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Frankie
09-01-2012, 05:16 PM
You guys look at every negative the team has and spin it wildly out of cotrol all the while propping the opponent up like they are a 22 deep with All Pro Super Team.

I'm usually the first one to agree with this. But this particular negative (the matchup of their super WRs and our mediocre DBs) is a real and ominous one.

Chiefs Pantalones
09-01-2012, 05:17 PM
my concern is not just losing. It's LOSING big and getting humiliated. The kind that takes the heart of a young team.

Who sent you?

Frankie
09-01-2012, 05:20 PM
Who sent you?

Look up into heavens for the answer. Especially through a hole in the clouds.

Easy 6
09-01-2012, 05:32 PM
Clint Eastwood is doing the pregame pep talk.

Fairplay
09-01-2012, 05:34 PM
Look up into heavens for the answer. Especially through a hole in the head.



FYP

King_Chief_Fan
09-01-2012, 05:41 PM
I bet the Chiefs get throttled....if they don't Clay gets banned for 6 games.

BigMeatballDave
09-01-2012, 05:49 PM
I bet the Chiefs get throttled....if they don't Clay gets banned for 6 games.

Did he make another bet?

BWillie
09-01-2012, 05:49 PM
Jesus Christ you ppl are pessimistic. I realize Atlanta is probably a little better but they aren't world beaters. They were 10 - 6 last year. Chiefs were decimated by injuries and had to start Tyler Palko for a few games and the Chiefs still went 7 - 9.

Chiefs Pantalones
09-01-2012, 05:50 PM
Did he make another bet?

Another bet? That dude is desperate for attention LMAO

King_Chief_Fan
09-01-2012, 05:50 PM
Did he make another bet?

nope I volunteered him

mr. tegu
09-01-2012, 05:54 PM
The public is pounding Atlanta, this is actually a good sign

Not exactly. The line has grown to reflect where the public is putting their money. By next weekend it will likely be 3.5 or 4.

mr. tegu
09-01-2012, 05:56 PM
Regarding the game I don't think they will be able to stop our run game. That opens up screens and play action which we should be able to take advantage of. We have game breakers just like they do. One or two missed tackles/assignments and we can certainly win this game. Go Chiefs! :arrow:

Schottenheimer
09-01-2012, 06:27 PM
Just heard that Lewis is not expected to play. DJ is expected to play. Flowers they are hopeful will play.

whoman69
09-01-2012, 07:30 PM
Clint Eastwood is doing the pregame pep talk.

We certainly have a lot of empty chairs.

fan4ever
09-01-2012, 08:02 PM
Our D might well end up a good one as the season progresses. But I'm very very worried about the first game. Not just to lose, but to lose discouragingly big.

1- Our DL while solid has not shown signs of wreaking havoc in the opponents' backfield. Yes I'm told that's the style of 34 Romeo plays. But wait....

2- Without Tamba Hali Ryan will have all day to throw, especially considering point 1.

3- The thought of Roddy White, Julio Jones, and Gonzo, against our depleted secondary stresses me to almost puking.

This is gonna be one of those games when we see passes completed against our D with scary consistency. The only way we have any chance to win this is if we can manage long time consuming run heavy drives that would keep the Atlanta O on the bench for the majority of the game. Maybe that's why Daboll was emphasizing the run in the last preseason game so much.

Tell me something hopeful.

Jeez Frankie; put your big boy pants on.

milkman
09-01-2012, 09:18 PM
Look up into heavens for the answer. Especially through a hole in the clouds.

Aliens?

New World Order
09-01-2012, 09:22 PM
Not exactly. The line has grown to reflect where the public is putting their money. By next weekend it will likely be 3.5 or 4.



I know, but we all know long term gamblers don't win, and if the public is pounding one side, that can only be a plus for the other. A fix could also be in the making, especially with these refs.

kcmaxwell
09-01-2012, 09:22 PM
Im glad flowers will be there hopefully, but if i were Atlanta, id test him early knowing he's been out so long.

go bowe
09-01-2012, 09:24 PM
Look up into heavens for the answer. Especially through a hole in the clouds.

LMAO LMAO LMAO

kcmaxwell
09-01-2012, 09:33 PM
Im glad flowers will be there hopefully, but if i were Atlanta, id test him early knowing he's been out so long.

That being said, hopefully he's near 100%, and takes it to the house!

KCtotheSB
09-01-2012, 09:33 PM
Look up into heavens for the answer. Especially through a hole in the clouds.

http://www.besthdwallpaper.com/thumbnails/large_Apocalypse_Meteor_50911.jpg

mlyonsd
09-01-2012, 09:50 PM
Frankie...just a note.....we suck. Time to get over it.

Enjoy the fall. Get out and walk in the leaves.

NJChiefsFan
09-01-2012, 11:49 PM
I'm usually the first one to agree with this. But this particular negative (the matchup of their super WRs and our mediocre DBs) is a real and ominous one.

Do you say this including flowers or thinking he won't be playing.

Frankie
09-01-2012, 11:59 PM
Do you say this including flowers or thinking he won't be playing.

I'm skeptical about his availability. Even if he's there, he's bound to be rusty.

If somehow the real battle ready Flowers plays we then might have a chance to withstand their areal attack.

DeepSouth
09-02-2012, 02:27 AM
The Falcons have a new offensive coordinator. This prompted their 3rd string QB (John Parker Wilson) to be released after the 2nd preseason game. It also prompted the 2nd string QB (Chris Redman) to be released after the 3rd preseason game.
They then signed Luke McCown who did not play in the final preseason game. Rumor has it, some offensive players are unhappy with the new Offensive Coordinator. My hope is, this creates a distraction with the Falcon's offense.
The Falcon's offensive coordinator for 2011 is now the head coach for the Jaguars. John Parker Wilson was signed to the Jaguars practice squad on Saturday.
The Falcons primary backup is an undrafted rookie. The 3rd string QB is McCown. Take out Ryan, game over.

Hog Farmer
09-02-2012, 06:10 AM
Its just 1 game at the beginning of September, I want them to win of course, but if we lose, its not that big a deal in the grand scheme. and its an interconference game as well, technically the least important.


But somehow, CP will make it out to be "The Sky is falling" if we lose.

2010 we won the opener against the Chargers. If we'd lost we wouldn't have made the playoffs. And to make it better, if McCluster had not returned the punt for a TD we would not have won that game.

bevischief
09-02-2012, 06:13 AM
So who are we sucking for this year?

Hog Farmer
09-02-2012, 06:13 AM
Has Frankie been doing this since 1965 ?

bevischief
09-02-2012, 06:17 AM
the middle east.

BigMeatballDave
09-02-2012, 06:26 AM
I'm skeptical about his availability. Even if he's there, he's bound to be rusty.

If somehow the real battle ready Flowers plays we then might have a chance to withstand their areal attack.

Rusty?

He's not a QB. If he's available, he'll be fine.

They just can't allow Ryan all day to throw.

Big Smoke
09-02-2012, 06:56 AM
Every time I am looking through the threads on the front page, this thread catches my eye I always see to notice the word "murder" first. Is this normal? I wonder if it's normal to notice words like "murder" , "rape" , etc... before others.

Sorry back on track here. I say run the ball 35 times and we win.

beach tribe
09-02-2012, 07:07 AM
Well, the Chiefs are a playoff caliber team, I guess. So, maybe they have a chance.

Two players I think will be pivital in this game -- Matt Cassel & Dontari Poe.

If those two get going, the Chiefs have a chance.

Jamaal & Hillis will have some success, but in order for the Chiefs to win I believe they need to score twice or more in the air and sack Matt Ryan 3 times. Poe may not get a sack, but if he can pressure from that RDE position Houston could get it done.

So our key to winning is a rookie DT, playing the right 5 tech? Could you be any fucking dumber?...





No..The answer is no. I wish milkman were here so he could call you a "Dumbass"

beach tribe
09-02-2012, 07:08 AM
Every time I am looking through the threads on the front page, this thread catches my eye I always see to notice the word "murder" first. Is this normal? I wonder if it's normal to notice words like "murder" , "rape" , etc... before others.

Sorry back on track here. I say run the ball 35 times and we win.

Totally normal.













See you in San Quinton, Jeffrey.:D

Hog Farmer
09-02-2012, 07:17 AM
Well, the Chiefs are a playoff caliber team, I guess. So, maybe they have a chance.

Two players I think will be pivital in this game -- Matt Cassel & Dontari Poe.

If those two get going, the Chiefs have a chance.

Jamaal & Hillis will have some success, but in order for the Chiefs to win I believe they need to score twice or more in the air and sack Matt Ryan 3 times. Poe may not get a sack, but if he can pressure from that RDE position Houston could get it done.


You fucking Dumbass !


Don't worry Milkman. I got your back.

beach tribe
09-02-2012, 07:21 AM
You ****ing Dumbass !


Don't worry Milkman. I got your back.
ROFL

DBOSHO
09-02-2012, 07:32 AM
we will be fine. The runningbacks will come up big in this game and so will dj.

20-13 chiefs. Cassel throws for 243 1 td 1 int.

dj56dt58
09-02-2012, 08:03 AM
The Falcons have a new offensive coordinator. This prompted their 3rd string QB (John Parker Wilson) to be released after the 2nd preseason game. It also prompted the 2nd string QB (Chris Redman) to be released after the 3rd preseason game.
They then signed Luke McCown who did not play in the final preseason game. Rumor has it, some offensive players are unhappy with the new Offensive Coordinator. My hope is, this creates a distraction with the Falcon's offense.
The Falcon's offensive coordinator for 2011 is now the head coach for the Jaguars. John Parker Wilson was signed to the Jaguars practice squad on Saturday.
The Falcons primary backup is an undrafted rookie. The 3rd string QB is McCown. Take out Ryan, game over.
remember tractor boy?

tredadda
09-02-2012, 08:10 AM
Ultimately it will come down to our offense. If ground and pound it we can win. If we rely on Cassel's arm and short dump offs we are in for a long day. I do think we can win this. I don't take our preseason performance very seriously. We usually suck in the preseason.

Discuss Thrower
09-02-2012, 08:21 AM
I didn't like KC's chances. And that was before the preseason and the slew of injuries.

Tuckdaddy
09-02-2012, 09:20 AM
No Lewis, probably no Flowers and no Tamba? We are going to get beat. We will not be able to cover Jones and White without a miracle.

We will have to sustain super long drives to contol their possesions to have a shot.

Mr. Laz
09-02-2012, 09:58 AM
Clint Eastwood is doing the pregame pep talk.

dude must have Alzheimer or something. :shake:

Mr. Laz
09-02-2012, 10:01 AM
You ****ing Dumbass !


Don't worry Milkman. I got your back.
run, Milkman ... run!!


never know when Hogboy will have a LSD flashback and decide that YOU are the one who needs inseminated.

Pablo
09-02-2012, 11:22 AM
We're just going to run the shit out of the ball. We just have to limit the number of times ATL's offense sees the ball. Much easier said than done.

Hog Farmer
09-02-2012, 11:34 AM
We're just going to run the shit out of the ball. We just have to limit the number of times ATL's offense sees the ball. Much easier said than done.

I think this has been said like maybe 45 times in this thread.

Pablo
09-02-2012, 11:47 AM
I think this has been said like maybe 45 times in this thread.Wow, you didn't work in any pig jerking dialogue in this post.

Impressive.

BossChief
09-02-2012, 11:49 AM
I think this has been said like maybe 45 times in this thread.

Thats exactly how many times we will need to run the ball to win.

Pasta Giant Meatball
09-02-2012, 12:15 PM
remember tractor boy?

Yeah, Chiefs blew em out in the 2nd half and tasted his wife's tears

Falconidae
09-02-2012, 01:20 PM
The Falcons have a new offensive coordinator. This prompted their 3rd string QB (John Parker Wilson) to be released after the 2nd preseason game. It also prompted the 2nd string QB (Chris Redman) to be released after the 3rd preseason game.
They then signed Luke McCown who did not play in the final preseason game. Rumor has it, some offensive players are unhappy with the new Offensive Coordinator. My hope is, this creates a distraction with the Falcon's offense.
The Falcon's offensive coordinator for 2011 is now the head coach for the Jaguars. John Parker Wilson was signed to the Jaguars practice squad on Saturday.
The Falcons primary backup is an undrafted rookie. The 3rd string QB is McCown. Take out Ryan, game over.


What rumors are you talking about? Not saying you're wrong, but everything I've heard as a Falcons fan following my team closely is how much the players love the new OC.

Death2CasselFans
09-02-2012, 01:22 PM
Tell me one thing Matt Cassel does better than Matt Ryan.

Keep in mind Matt Ryan is compared to Peyton Manning in his football IQ.

Death2CasselFans
09-02-2012, 01:25 PM
What rumors are you talking about? Not saying you're wrong, but everything I've heard as a Falcons fan following my team closely is how much the players love the new OC.

Your a Falcons fan? Yess. Me too.

I moved to Kansas Shiitty because Atlanta was getting expensive to live in. Atlanta is my favorite team, KC is my 2nd.

When I move back to Atlanta, I might drop being fan of all KC teams since they all suck. Im already a Kentucky and Alabama fan. TEAM SEC baby!

Saccopoo
09-02-2012, 01:31 PM
Your a Falcons fan? Yess. Me too.

I moved to Kansas Shiitty because Atlanta was getting expensive to live in. Atlanta is my favorite team, KC is my 2nd.

When I move back to Atlanta, I might drop being fan of all KC teams since they all suck. Im already a Kentucky and Alabama fan. TEAM SEC baby!

http://www.rumproast.com/images/uploads/malkin_dipshit_alert.jpg

Death2CasselFans
09-02-2012, 01:32 PM
Falcons board has a thread on THIS thread

I cant link it but its on the Boards Atlanta Falcons, thread title is Some talk from Chiefs fans

Brock
09-02-2012, 01:35 PM
Tell me one thing Matt Cassel does better than Matt Ryan.

Keep in mind Matt Ryan is compared to Peyton Manning in his football IQ.

:facepalm: Your act is tired.

Pablo
09-02-2012, 02:27 PM
Your a Falcons fan? Yess. Me too.

I moved to Kansas Shiitty because Atlanta was getting expensive to live in. Atlanta is my favorite team, KC is my 2nd.

When I move back to Atlanta, I might drop being fan of all KC teams since they all suck. Im already a Kentucky and Alabama fan. TEAM SEC baby!Kentucky basketball and Bama football I'm assuming.

Good work front-runner.

Dirty Bird
09-02-2012, 02:27 PM
Chiefs can easily take this one. Falcons struggle on the road and have lost in two straight openers. Losing Hali and potentially Johnson (one of my fav lb's) is huge. The Falcon's have receiving threats but don't have adequate time to give them the ball. If Chiefs fail to generate pass rush it could be a long day for KC. On offense I expect a ground and pound attack from KC using Hillis and Charles. This worries me, with the loss of our run stopper Curtis Lofton can the young 2nd year MLB Akeem Dent fill in adequately? As a Falcon fan my ideal situation would be to take an early lead therefore prompting Cassel to throw into the Falcons secondary which is a strength of our D.

At the most Falcons may win by 10 but I don't think it will be a murder by any means. If there is any sort of lead (Mike Smith) "Smittyball" will ensue after halftime where ultra-conservative plays will be called.

aturnis
09-02-2012, 02:53 PM
Falcons board has a thread on THIS thread

I cant link it but its on the Boards Atlanta Falcons, thread title is Some talk from Chiefs fans

This one?

http://boards.atlantafalcons.com/topic/3954265-some-talk-from-chief-fans/

thabear04
09-02-2012, 03:08 PM
Put Berry at CB for the first game and have Daniels and Abe at safeties

Chiefs Pantalones
09-02-2012, 03:22 PM
It's obvious that Atlanta on defense is going to try to do what any smart team would do: Stop the run and force Cassel to beat them. That's going to force Cassel to try and make some plays in the passing game. I don't know if I'm necessarily confident in that. And it's going to likely happen. There is going to be times in this game where Cassel IS going to have to be a QB and go through progressions and find his targets like a QB is supposed to do. If successful that will (in turn) open up the running game. Both the passing game and the running game have to play off of each other and help the other out. Sorry fellas, Cassel is going to have to make some plays for us to win this game and we do have the talent around him to help him do that. We'll see what happens.

On defense it's simple...kill Matt Ryan.

Phobia
09-02-2012, 03:47 PM
I moved to Kansas Shiitty because Atlanta was getting expensive to live in. Atlanta is my favorite team, KC is my 2nd.

When I move back to Atlanta, I might drop being fan of all KC teams since they all suck. Im already a Kentucky and Alabama fan. TEAM SEC baby!

Your loyalty is inspiring and your character flawless.

L.A. Chieffan
09-02-2012, 04:18 PM
I didn't realize Atlanta had any actual fans. I thought they were like San Diego in that regard

Chocolate Hog
09-02-2012, 04:43 PM
Your a Falcons fan? Yess. Me too.

I moved to Kansas Shiitty because Atlanta was getting expensive to live in. Atlanta is my favorite team, KC is my 2nd.

When I move back to Atlanta, I might drop being fan of all KC teams since they all suck. Im already a Kentucky and Alabama fan. TEAM SEC baby!

You cheer for Kentucky and Alabama? http://imageshack.us/a/img16/6718/4qle9w.png

BryanBusby
09-02-2012, 04:49 PM
Your a Falcons fan? Yess. Me too.

I moved to Kansas Shiitty because Atlanta was getting expensive to live in. Atlanta is my favorite team, KC is my 2nd.

When I move back to Atlanta, I might drop being fan of all KC teams since they all suck. Im already a Kentucky and Alabama fan. TEAM SEC baby!

Kansas Shitty oh ho ho

NJChiefsFan
09-02-2012, 04:59 PM
Always funny to see other fan boards enjoying the humor of this board.

Sorter
09-02-2012, 05:35 PM
Kansas Shitty oh ho ho

Better than Hotlanta for sure.

BryanBusby
09-02-2012, 05:43 PM
Moar liek Gaylanta eh he he he

atljbo
09-02-2012, 07:44 PM
smdh ... really

Shogun
09-02-2012, 07:46 PM
REALLY.

|Zach|
09-02-2012, 07:47 PM
Your loyalty is inspiring and your character flawless.

:LOL:

Oh Snap
09-02-2012, 08:35 PM
Its Atlanta...I'm normally pessimistic about the first game, however, not this year. Its at arrowhead, and its Atlanta. Last time Atlanta visited arrowhead we dropped 8 rushing TD's on them! I say lets do that again!

Caseyguyrr
09-02-2012, 08:40 PM
roddy white and julio jones will both have career days

TEX
09-02-2012, 08:43 PM
roddy white and julio jones will both have career days

Matt Ryan as well. It's gonna be ugly.

Frankie
09-02-2012, 08:44 PM
I don't take our preseason performance very seriously. We usually suck in the preseason.It seems we kind of tend to suck early in the season to, before we get going.

ILast time Atlanta visited arrowhead we dropped 8 rushing TD's on them!
Yeah, once upon a time.

Caseyguyrr
09-02-2012, 08:44 PM
Matt Ryan as well. It's gonna be ugly.

I mean shit look how good we made Ryan Fitzpatrick look

Chiefs Pantalones
09-02-2012, 08:44 PM
roddy white and julio jones will both have career days

Matt Ryan is gonna go Warren Moon circa 1990 on our asses, mass hysteria!

Caseyguyrr
09-02-2012, 08:45 PM
Matt Ryan is gonna go Warren Moon circa 1990 on our asses, mass hysteria!

I fully expect him to throw for 400 yards and 4 tds

Frankie
09-02-2012, 08:50 PM
BTW, to Falcon fans posting here, this thread talks about this game only under the circumstances that shit on us match up wise. With Tamba Hali and our healthy secondary I truly think we beat Atlanta.

Phobia
09-02-2012, 08:51 PM
Its Atlanta...I'm normally pessimistic about the first game, however, not this year. Its at arrowhead, and its Atlanta. Last time Atlanta visited arrowhead we dropped 8 rushing TD's on them! I say lets do that again!

Yeah but we don't have Derrick Blaylock this year.

Caseyguyrr
09-02-2012, 08:56 PM
Its Atlanta...I'm normally pessimistic about the first game, however, not this year. Its at arrowhead, and its Atlanta. Last time Atlanta visited arrowhead we dropped 8 rushing TD's on them! I say lets do that again!

that was 8 years ago bro, quit living in the past like bronco fans

rocknrolla
09-02-2012, 09:20 PM
Murder was the case they gave me.
Posted via Mobile Device

Simplicity
09-02-2012, 09:43 PM
Catt Massel.

Tombstone RJ
09-02-2012, 10:19 PM
that was 8 years ago bro, quit living in the past like bronco fans

?

don't drag my franchise into this pathetic thread.

mcaj22
09-02-2012, 10:27 PM
how exactly are we going to kill Matt Ryan like you Chiefs homers are predicting with literally ONE pass rusher. One pass rusher with just 1 season under his belt that is still young and inexperienced. You just expect him to carry the load. Nobody else on this front 7 is going to help him or provide any pass rush and you damn well know that. We aren't the Giants, we dont have 4 pass rushers that can go at any time. We have 2. 1 is out. We now have 1 and a bunch of guys that barely get any push.

To think we are going to generate any pass rush when we are a bottom team in sacks even with Tamba Hali who is like 50 percent (maybe more) of our sack output in a season is just laughable and completely unrealistic

Shogun
09-02-2012, 10:39 PM
how exactly are we going to kill Matt Ryan like you Chiefs homers are predicting with literally ONE pass rusher. One pass rusher with just 1 season under his belt that is still young and inexperienced. You just expect him to carry the load. Nobody else on this front 7 is going to help him or provide any pass rush and you damn well know that. We aren't the Giants, we dont have 4 pass rushers that can go at any time. We have 2. 1 is out. We now have 1 and a bunch of guys that barely get any push.

To think we are going to generate any pass rush when we are a bottom team in sacks even with Tamba Hali who is like 50 percent (maybe more) of our sack output in a season is just laughable and completely unrealistic

Tamba did okay for years without anybody opposite him. Bout time for Houstons balls to drop. Perfect opportunity. Never know it could happen.

BossChief
09-02-2012, 10:57 PM
Bailey
Poe
Powe
Houston
DJ
Berry
Arenas

It's gonna be a group effort in making Ryan uncomfortable.

Dirty Bird
09-02-2012, 11:29 PM
Matt Ryan isn't as deadly as some of y'all make him out to be. If you look at his stats you can see that he struggles against good defenses. Although I must say this season he has added 5 lb's of muscle and completed 75% of his passes in preseason he may revert to being an elite game manager. Everyone here in Atlanta is waiting for Ryan to take that next step where he can become that franchise QB who can deliver in the postseason. Our new Offensive Coordinator is looking to air it out more so we'll see whether Matt's past was a product of coaching or ability. Anyway's, until proven otherwise, Ryan isn't to be feared. Julio on the other hand...

NJChiefsFan
09-02-2012, 11:42 PM
Matt Ryan isn't as deadly as some of y'all make him out to be. If you look at his stats you can see that he struggles against good defenses. Although I must say this season he has added 5 lb's of muscle and completed 75% of his passes in preseason he may revert to being an elite game manager. Everyone here in Atlanta is waiting for Ryan to take that next step where he can become that franchise QB who can deliver in the postseason. Our new Offensive Coordinator is looking to air it out more so we'll see whether Matt's past was a product of coaching or ability. Anyway's, until proven otherwise, Ryan isn't to be feared. Julio on the other hand...

How a team does or doesn't do through the air at arrowhead in the past decade sadly can't really be predicted by the opposing teams talent. Look at our gm vs buffalo then later vs green bay. Too many qbs have torn is up over the yrs for your comments to be a comfort. I like our d when healthy. Who knows right now. I fear something not that pretty but saying its a lock is a little too dramatic IMO.

chiefzilla1501
09-03-2012, 05:51 AM
Matt Cassel is only a good QB when the table is perfectly set. Which is why the idea that a game manager is okay breaks down. Cassel can never beat a team in a shootout. Even the best of defenses like Pittsburgh force the QB to gunsling from time to time. We saw it time and time again. People blame our defense for giving up too many TDs against Denver 2 years or MIami last year or many of our other blowouts. Nobody mentions that Cassel always starts pathetically slow and it puts the game out of reach in the 1st quarter. Our high % of blowouts... people blame Haley most, but the top guy to blame is Cassel.

I hate that this is true. But only through these kinds of blowouts will a message be sent that an average game manager isn't good enough.

Ace Gunner
09-03-2012, 06:01 AM
Matt Ryan isn't as deadly as some of y'all make him out to be. If you look at his stats you can see that he struggles against good defenses. Although I must say this season he has added 5 lb's of muscle and completed 75% of his passes in preseason he may revert to being an elite game manager. Everyone here in Atlanta is waiting for Ryan to take that next step where he can become that franchise QB who can deliver in the postseason. Our new Offensive Coordinator is looking to air it out more so we'll see whether Matt's past was a product of coaching or ability. Anyway's, until proven otherwise, Ryan isn't to be feared. Julio on the other hand...

Can he beat a retard? K then:D

Pasta Giant Meatball
09-03-2012, 06:21 AM
Matt Ryan isn't as deadly as some of y'all make him out to be. If you look at his stats you can see that he struggles against good defenses. Although I must say this season he has added 5 lb's of muscle and completed 75% of his passes in preseason he may revert to being an elite game manager. Everyone here in Atlanta is waiting for Ryan to take that next step where he can become that franchise QB who can deliver in the postseason. Our new Offensive Coordinator is looking to air it out more so we'll see whether Matt's past was a product of coaching or ability. Anyway's, until proven otherwise, Ryan isn't to be feared. Julio on the other hand...

Sounds like you are waiting for HIS balls to drop ;)

threebag02
09-03-2012, 07:14 AM
We are going to have to own the game clock

mcaj22
09-03-2012, 07:58 AM
Tamba did okay for years without anybody opposite him. Bout time for Houstons balls to drop. Perfect opportunity. Never know it could happen.

it took Tamba like 5 years to have a "good season"

many on here we're calling him a bust before his breakout aka when Jared Allen left and we switched to a 34. In fact there are threads people bump that joke about this today.

Just a few years ago we were the worst pass rushing team in the NFL in terms of sack output and people have been crying for years that Tamba needs more pass rush help on this team. I agree Justin Houston provides that. But Justin Houston by himself as the only pass rush threat doesn't do us any favors.

ARROW2
09-03-2012, 08:42 AM
FKKKK THE PIGEONS!!!!!

ARROW2
09-03-2012, 08:45 AM
Bring those mofos on. I am tired of all of the scared talk.......Hali be damned, let's give those punks a KC ass whoopin!!!

ARROW2
09-03-2012, 08:46 AM
Let me talk to the team before the game........."Hey Eric and Justin, guess what they are saying about you in the A...."

ARROW2
09-03-2012, 08:48 AM
Matty ice my ass.....Matty melted water is more like it...Let's see how he deals with Arrowhead.....You know what we do to hyped NFC teams at Arrowhead.....

BigMeatballDave
09-03-2012, 08:54 AM
it took Tamba like 5 years to have a "good season"

many on here we're calling him a bust before his breakout aka when Jared Allen left and we switched to a 34. In fact there are threads people bump that joke about this today.

Just a few years ago we were the worst pass rushing team in the NFL in terms of sack output and people have been crying for years that Tamba needs more pass rush help on this team. I agree Justin Houston provides that. But Justin Houston by himself as the only pass rush threat doesn't do us any favors.

8 sacks in his rookie season is not good?

BigRock
09-03-2012, 09:28 AM
Matty ice my ass.....Matty melted water is more like it...
http://i39.tinypic.com/16ifel4.gif

Frankie
09-03-2012, 09:41 AM
?

don't drag my franchise into this pathetic thread.

You missplaced the word "pathetic". It goes after "my."

Hog Farmer
09-03-2012, 09:43 AM
You missplaced the word "pathetic". It goes after "my."

:LOL:

Mr. Laz
09-03-2012, 09:44 AM
Bailey
Poe
Powe
Houston
DJ
Berry
Arenas

It's gonna be a group effort in making Ryan uncomfortable.
while i don't disagree ...


who is going to cover anyone?

Even if Flowers does play, who is going to cover the 3rd wideout?


let's just say that Flowers and Routt can hold their own against White and Jones. Which guy are you going to have cover the 3 wide receiver?

Arenas is very limited about what type of receiver he can cover. The guy can't be too big or too fast.

Jalil Brown is stank ass
Jacques Reeves is even worse than stank ass
Travis Daniels is meh

who's going to cover Tony G?

apparently berry is going to play like a linebacker
Elam?
Lewis(even if he plays he can't cover worth a shit)
Hartman?

i still think we are going to struggle to cover tightends this year.


teams are going to do to us what teams did to the Steelers a few years back. Just go to a multiple receiver set, spread the defense and abuse the 3rd/4th corner.

L.A. Chieffan
09-03-2012, 10:45 AM
Matt Ryan isn't as deadly as some of y'all make him out to be. If you look at his stats you can see that he struggles against good defenses. Although I must say this season he has added 5 lb's of muscle and completed 75% of his passes in preseason he may revert to being an elite game manager. Everyone here in Atlanta is waiting for Ryan to take that next step where he can become that franchise QB who can deliver in the postseason. Our new Offensive Coordinator is looking to air it out more so we'll see whether Matt's past was a product of coaching or ability. Anyway's, until proven otherwise, Ryan isn't to be feared. Julio on the other hand...

Haha SEE? Even falcon fans know we have the better qb

Marcellus
09-03-2012, 11:49 AM
Worried: Someone tell me why we won't get murdered by Atlanta.

Because Ray Lewis plays for Baltimore?

BossChief
09-03-2012, 12:00 PM
while i don't disagree ...


who is going to cover anyone?

Even if Flowers does play, who is going to cover the 3rd wideout?


let's just say that Flowers and Routt can hold their own against White and Jones. Which guy are you going to have cover the 3 wide receiver?

Arenas is very limited about what type of receiver he can cover. The guy can't be too big or too fast.

Jalil Brown is stank ass

Jacques Reeves is even worse than stank ass
Travis Daniels is meh

who's going to cover Tony G?

apparently berry is going to play like a linebacker
Elam?
Lewis(even if he plays he can't cover worth a shit)
Hartman?

i still think we are going to struggle to cover tightends this year.


teams are going to do to us what teams did to the Steelers a few years back. Just go to a multiple receiver set, spread the defense and abuse the 3rd/4th corner.

Since when did Arenas become this limited defender?

IMO he has done quite well covering slot receivers since day one.

I have little worries about him covering Harry Douglas.

Marcellus
09-03-2012, 12:02 PM
Since when did Arenas become this limited defender?

IMO he has done quite well covering slot receivers since day one.

I have little worries about him covering Harry Douglas.

People here undervalue Arenas. He is doing what he was drafted to do and doing it just fine.

Falconidae
09-03-2012, 12:51 PM
Haha SEE? Even falcon fans know we have the better qb

He hardly represents the majority view of falcons fans.

Dirty Bird
09-03-2012, 12:58 PM
He hardly represents the majority view of falcons fans.
I agree but i'm not trying to turn this into a Ryan thread on a foreign message board. I'm pro Ryan all the way and he has shown steady improvement year by year. All i'm saying is until proven otherwise opposing defenses don't and won't fear Ryan as much as they do Rodgers,Brady and those top tier QB's.

Chiefs Pantalones
09-03-2012, 01:00 PM
He hardly represents the majority view of falcons fans.

Welcome to the board. Give us our HOF TE back. I hope you know our boy is going in the Hall as a Chief. :)

Hopefully no injuries, or aggravated injuries, to both teams on Sunday and may the best team win. Looking forward to a great game. And if you'd like we can trade QBs.

chiefzilla1501
09-03-2012, 01:25 PM
while i don't disagree ...


who is going to cover anyone?

Even if Flowers does play, who is going to cover the 3rd wideout?


let's just say that Flowers and Routt can hold their own against White and Jones. Which guy are you going to have cover the 3 wide receiver?

Arenas is very limited about what type of receiver he can cover. The guy can't be too big or too fast.

Jalil Brown is stank ass
Jacques Reeves is even worse than stank ass
Travis Daniels is meh

who's going to cover Tony G?

apparently berry is going to play like a linebacker
Elam?
Lewis(even if he plays he can't cover worth a shit)
Hartman?

i still think we are going to struggle to cover tightends this year.


teams are going to do to us what teams did to the Steelers a few years back. Just go to a multiple receiver set, spread the defense and abuse the 3rd/4th corner.

I think you've gotten spoiled. Our CBs are top-notch. Travis Daniels, in my opinion, is one of the most underrated players on the Chiefs' roster. He's not an every day starter, but I'm very comfortable putting him out there as a #2 CB in a pinch. Arenas is terrific -- in the new NFL, you have to have smaller guys who can cover the slot and he's done very well. If need be, Travis Daniels can rotate up to the nickel.

So yeah, even with the Chiefs missing 2 key guys, the secondary is still pretty solid. With our starting guys, I think we have one of the deepest secondaries in the NFL.

PS the reason we couldn't cover tight ends in the past is because we didn't have Eric Berry. That changes this season. Piscatelli was an absolute embarrassment.

beach tribe
09-03-2012, 01:30 PM
People here undervalue Arenas. He is doing what he was drafted to do and doing it just fine.

I was just about to post this. Arenas is a lot better than people give him credit for, and he's not Mark McMillan. He's basically the same size as Flowers, and he's going into his third season, and has made steady progression throughout his career. Definitely a guy who is overlooked, and undervalued.

Count Zarth
09-03-2012, 02:00 PM
He was still taken too high.

If you spend a 2nd on a CB he should be starting material.

Arenas ain't.

We got a 4th round value in the 2nd.

Yahooty.

BossChief
09-03-2012, 02:07 PM
The matchups I hate in the season opener are Jones/Flowers and Tony G (if it's true that DJ has a HAS)

White is gonna win some matchups against Routt, but I think SR will hold his own.

IMO Arenas wins the Harry Douglas matchup.

Our run d should keep them in 2nd and 3rd and long situations.

I've said it a couple times...if Cassel can give us what he did in mid 2010, we win the game...if not, we might get blown out.

BossChief
09-03-2012, 02:09 PM
He was still taken too high.

If you spend a 2nd on a CB he should be starting material.

Arenas ain't.

We got a 4th round value in the 2nd.

Yahooty.
1996 called.

They want their post back.

beach tribe
09-03-2012, 02:09 PM
Arenas is another case of guys around here thinking a guy was over drafted, so they get a negative impression of them in their head, and that somehow convinces them that the guy is crappy because of it.

beach tribe
09-03-2012, 02:11 PM
He was still taken too high.

If you spend a 2nd on a CB he should be starting material.

Arenas ain't.

We got a 4th round value in the 2nd.

Yahooty.

Arenas was a 2nd round prospect, whether you liked the pick or not. He was damn good at Alabama, and was much better than a 4th round talent.

beach tribe
09-03-2012, 02:14 PM
And tell me again, why you are posting before the season, Clay.

threebag02
09-03-2012, 02:20 PM
Monday Week 1.

Let Clay Play...Let Clay Play...

beach tribe
09-03-2012, 02:35 PM
In an attempt to save myself, and the rest of the board from as much of your spew as possible, I'd like to make a bet with you Clay. Since you are so sure the ATL will "nuke" us, If we lose, I will not be able to post, until we win a game, If we win, you Cannot post until we lose. Deal?

BossChief
09-03-2012, 02:39 PM
In an attempt to save myself, and the rest of the board from as much of your spew as possible, I'd like to make a bet with you Clay. Since you are so sure the ATL will "nuke" us, If we lose, I will not be able to post, until we win a game, If we win, you Cannot post until we lose. Deal?

Fuck that.

I want to see gifd up

BigMeatballDave
09-03-2012, 02:42 PM
He was still taken too high.

If you spend a 2nd on a CB he should be starting material.

Arenas ain't.

We got a 4th round value in the 2nd.

Yahooty.

You do know that this IS a passing league, right?

You need talent at the 5th DB, right?

BigMeatballDave
09-03-2012, 02:42 PM
1996 called.

They want their post back.

LOL

Count Zarth
09-03-2012, 02:43 PM
No, I enjoy our discussions. :D

Arenas is not crappy. He is a solid nickel back. But he was definitely not worth that 2nd round pick.

It's a criticism of Pioli, not Arenas.

Marcellus
09-03-2012, 02:46 PM
**** that.

I want to see gifd up

So you expect to win?

BossChief
09-03-2012, 02:47 PM
No, I enjoy our discussions. :D

Arenas is not crappy. He is a solid nickel back. But he was definitely not worth that 2nd round pick.

It's a criticism of Pioli, not Arenas.

A top 5 returner and one of the better nickel cover corners as well as an effective Blitzer isn't worth a mid-late second rounder in today's NFL?

Answer: yes, it is.

BigMeatballDave
09-03-2012, 02:47 PM
No, I enjoy our discussions. :D

Arenas is not crappy. He is a solid nickel back. But he was definitely not worth that 2nd round pick.

It's a criticism of Pioli, not Arenas.

You are completely fucking clueless on this.

You need a solid 5th CB, and we have one.

A second is NOT too high for his purpose.

BossChief
09-03-2012, 02:48 PM
So you expect to win?

I think we have a much better chance of winning than most here do.

We need Cassel to play like he did against Seattle in 2010, though.

Marcellus
09-03-2012, 02:49 PM
You are completely ****ing clueless on this.

You need a solid 5th CB, and we have one.

A second is NOT too high for his purpose.

5th CB huh? Did you mean nickel?

Marcellus
09-03-2012, 02:49 PM
I think we have a much better chance of winning than most here do.

We need Cassel to play like he did against Seattle in 2010, though.

I agree but if we win, I give a shit about giffed up. Clay can be gone.

BigMeatballDave
09-03-2012, 02:54 PM
5th CB huh? Did you mean nickel?

:) I meant DB

Marcellus
09-03-2012, 02:57 PM
:) I meant DB

Gotcha. How a guy who plays pretty much every time there are 3 WR on the field can be treated like a ST player is beyond me. To some here he is just a return guy.

BigMeatballDave
09-03-2012, 03:00 PM
Gotcha. How a guy who plays pretty much every time there are 3 WR on the field can be treated like a ST player is beyond me. To some here he is just a return guy.

Clay is trolling his using Pioli hate. He HAS to know the value of a solid nickel vs todays passing game.

I'm no fan of Scott's, but that's because of Cassel.

Frankie
09-03-2012, 03:04 PM
No, I enjoy our discussions. :D

Arenas is not crappy. He is a solid nickel back. But he was definitely not worth that 2nd round pick.

It's a criticism of Pioli, not Arenas.

To be fair, he was valued for his return abilities as well. I agree, we could have gotten him in the 3rd (maybe not 4th) but he was valued both as a DB and a returner.

Frankie
09-03-2012, 03:06 PM
I agree but if we win, I give a shit about giffed up. Clay can be gone.

Clay is undervalued around here the same way he undervalues Arenas.

BossChief
09-03-2012, 03:07 PM
He also subsidizes the pass rush.

Marcellus
09-03-2012, 03:07 PM
Clay is undervalued around here the same way he undervalues Arenas.

LMAO

mcaj22
09-03-2012, 03:14 PM
A top 5 returner and one of the better nickel cover corners as well as an effective Blitzer isn't worth a mid-late second rounder in today's NFL?

Answer: yes, it is.

over actual starting 3 down players it isnt. Taking Arenas before guys like Terrance Cody, Sean Lee, Pat Angerer, Brandon Spikes, Ben Tate, is a laughable joke.

L.A. Chieffan
09-03-2012, 03:17 PM
A top 5 returner and one of the better nickel cover corners as well as an effective Blitzer isn't worth a mid-late second rounder in today's NFL?

Answer: yes, it is.

Who the hell on the roster is a "top 5 returner"?

BossChief
09-03-2012, 03:18 PM
over actual starting 3 down players it isnt. Taking Arenas before guys like Terrance Cody, Sean Lee, Pat Angerer, Brandon Spikes, Ben Tate, is a laughable joke.ROFL

The only guy I'd take over Arenas out of those guys is Cody.

BTW...calling Cody or Spikes a "3 down player" is a fucking joke and shows your inability to understand your own comment.

Count Zarth
09-03-2012, 03:19 PM
You can find a guy like Arenas in the 3rd or 4th round.

He was overdrafted, period.

Maybe if he brought Hester-like value to the return game, he'd be worth that pick. He doesn't.

BossChief
09-03-2012, 03:27 PM
Who the hell on the roster is a "top 5 returner"?

You can find a guy like Arenas in the 3rd or 4th round.

He was overdrafted, period.

Maybe if he brought Hester-like value to the return game, he'd be worth that pick. He doesn't.

Of guys that had more than 15 punt returns last year, Javier Arenas had THE THIRD HIGHEST AVERAGE.

Only Devin Hester and Patrick Peterson had a higher average per return in the whole NFL.

Count Zarth
09-03-2012, 03:28 PM
Let's not even compare Arenas to those guys, because he isn't the same kind of returner, and we all know it.

3rd or 4th round value.

Could go up or down based on how he plays this year against better QBs.

Danny Amendola be smokin' dat ass. :)

L.A. Chieffan
09-03-2012, 03:34 PM
Of guys that had more than 15 punt returns last year, Javier Arenas had THE THIRD HIGHEST AVERAGE.

Only Devin Hester and Patrick Peterson had a higher average per return in the whole NFL.

Give me a break dude, his long was 35 yards and he scored exactly ZERO TDs in punts or kickoffs. I think Stanzimania has affected your reasoning

BossChief
09-03-2012, 03:35 PM
You can find a guy like Arenas in the 3rd or 4th round.

He was overdrafted, period.

Maybe if he brought Hester-like value to the return game, he'd be worth that pick. He doesn't.

That's just ignorant and I'm pretty sure you know it.

Here is a list of CBs that were drafted between 2010 and 2012 in the third and fourth round.

Less than a handful are better than Arenas STRICTLY AS A CORNER and once you figure in the ability to blitz and his ability as a returner...to call it a bad pick is straight up lame and ignorant.

2012
2 62 Casey Hayward CB Vanderbilt Green Bay Packers
3 65 Trumaine Johnson CB Montana St. Louis Rams
3 66 Josh Robinson CB Central Florida Minnesota Vikings
3 80 Jamell Fleming CB Oklahoma Arizona Cardinals
3 85 Dwight Bentley CB Louisiana-Lafayette Detroit Lions
3 94 Jayron Hosley CB Virginia Tech New York Giants
4 101 Omar Bolden CB Arizona State Denver Broncos
4 115 Coty Sensabaugh CB Clemson Tennessee Titans
4 123 Brandon Boykin CB Georgia Philadelphia Eagles
4 124 Ron Brooks CB LSU Buffalo Bills

2011
3 80 Chris Culliver DB South Carolina San Francisco 49ers
3 81 DeMarcus Van Dyke DB Miami (Fla.) Oakland Raiders
3 88 Johnny Patrick DB Louisville New Orleans Saints
3 89 Shareece Wright DB USC San Diego Chargers
3 90 Curtis Marsh DB Utah State Philadelphia Eagles
3 93 Chris Conte DB California Chicago Bears
3 95 Curtis Brown DB Texas Pittsburgh Steelers
4 98 Brandon Hogan CB West Virginia Carolina Panthers
4 100 Da'Norris Searcy DB North Carolina Buffalo Bills
4 108 Quinton Carter DB Oklahoma Denver Broncos
4 113 Chimdi Chekwa DB Ohio State Oakland Raiders
4 118 Jalil Brown DB Colorado Kansas City Chiefs
4 121 Chris Prosinski DB Wyoming Jacksonville Jaguars
4 127 Rashad Carmichael DB Virginia Tech Houston Texans
4 128 Cortez Allen DB The Citadel Pittsburgh Steelers

2010
3 65 Jerome Murphy DB South Florida St. Louis Rams
3 67 Myron Lewis DB Vanderbilt Tampa Bay Buccaneers
3 75 Major Wright DB Florida Chicago Bears
3 94 Kevin Thomas DB USC Indianapolis Colts
3 96 Brandon Ghee DB Wake Forest Cincinnati Bengals
4 104 Alterraun Verner CB UCLA Tennessee Titans
4 105 Trevard Lindley DB Kentucky Philadelphia Eagles
4 110 Darrell Stuckey DB Kansas San Diego Chargers
4 111 Walter Thurmond CB Oregon Seattle Seahawks
4 126 Akwasi Owusu-Ansah DB Indiana (PA) Dallas Cowboys

Count Zarth
09-03-2012, 03:36 PM
Brandon Flowers was also taken in the 2nd round, like Arenas.

Flowers is good 2nd round value.

Arenas ain't.

Marcellus
09-03-2012, 03:36 PM
That's just ignorant and I'm pretty sure you know it.

Here is a list of CBs that were drafted between 2010 and 2012 in the third and fourth round.

Less than a handful are better than Arenas STRICTLY AS A CORNER and once you figure in the ability to blitz and his ability as a returner...to call it a bad pick is straight up lame and ignorant.

2012
2 62 Casey Hayward CB Vanderbilt Green Bay Packers
3 65 Trumaine Johnson CB Montana St. Louis Rams
3 66 Josh Robinson CB Central Florida Minnesota Vikings
3 80 Jamell Fleming CB Oklahoma Arizona Cardinals
3 85 Dwight Bentley CB Louisiana-Lafayette Detroit Lions
3 94 Jayron Hosley CB Virginia Tech New York Giants
4 101 Omar Bolden CB Arizona State Denver Broncos
4 115 Coty Sensabaugh CB Clemson Tennessee Titans
4 123 Brandon Boykin CB Georgia Philadelphia Eagles
4 124 Ron Brooks CB LSU Buffalo Bills

2011
3 80 Chris Culliver DB South Carolina San Francisco 49ers
3 81 DeMarcus Van Dyke DB Miami (Fla.) Oakland Raiders
3 88 Johnny Patrick DB Louisville New Orleans Saints
3 89 Shareece Wright DB USC San Diego Chargers
3 90 Curtis Marsh DB Utah State Philadelphia Eagles
3 93 Chris Conte DB California Chicago Bears
3 95 Curtis Brown DB Texas Pittsburgh Steelers
4 98 Brandon Hogan CB West Virginia Carolina Panthers
4 100 Da'Norris Searcy DB North Carolina Buffalo Bills
4 108 Quinton Carter DB Oklahoma Denver Broncos
4 113 Chimdi Chekwa DB Ohio State Oakland Raiders
4 118 Jalil Brown DB Colorado Kansas City Chiefs
4 121 Chris Prosinski DB Wyoming Jacksonville Jaguars
4 127 Rashad Carmichael DB Virginia Tech Houston Texans
4 128 Cortez Allen DB The Citadel Pittsburgh Steelers

2010
3 65 Jerome Murphy DB South Florida St. Louis Rams
3 67 Myron Lewis DB Vanderbilt Tampa Bay Buccaneers
3 75 Major Wright DB Florida Chicago Bears
3 94 Kevin Thomas DB USC Indianapolis Colts
3 96 Brandon Ghee DB Wake Forest Cincinnati Bengals
4 104 Alterraun Verner CB UCLA Tennessee Titans
4 105 Trevard Lindley DB Kentucky Philadelphia Eagles
4 110 Darrell Stuckey DB Kansas San Diego Chargers
4 111 Walter Thurmond CB Oregon Seattle Seahawks
4 126 Akwasi Owusu-Ansah DB Indiana (PA) Dallas Cowboys

Don't use facts, it will only confuse the argument.

Count Zarth
09-03-2012, 03:38 PM
I wouldn't say it was a BAD pick.

I would just say he was drafted a little too high.

It's not like Arenas sucks or anything. He's good at what he does. He's not Dexter McCluster. I appreciate what Arenas does for our team.

But when you draft a corner that high, he should absolutely have the ability to be a starter, or at least a spot starter.

It's OK to make a pick like Arenas when you are nailing your other high picks.

Pioli doesn't, unfortunately.

Chiefs Pantalones
09-03-2012, 03:40 PM
I wouldn't say it was a BAD pick.

I would just say he was drafted a little too high.

It's not like Arenas sucks or anything. He's good at what he does. He's not Dexter McCluster. I appreciate what Arenas does for our team.

But when you draft a corner that high, he should absolutely have the ability to be a starter, or at least a spot starter.

It's OK to make a pick like Arenas when you are nailing your other high picks.

Pioli doesn't, unfortunately.

Clay, can you post your Pioli sorry pic? I've been looking around for it forever.

BossChief
09-03-2012, 03:41 PM
Give me a break dude, his long was 35 yards and he scored exactly ZERO TDs in punts or kickoffs. I think Stanzimania has affected your reasoning

I know you are trolling, but you are working against yourself here.

The fact that he didnt break one long one and was STILL had the third highest average per return shows how good he is at it.

Let me take it one step further....

Devin Hester 4 fumbles on 28 punt returns
Patrick Peterson had 3 fumbles on 44 punt returns
Javier Arenas had 1 fumble on 32 punt returns

Lets stop acting like the guy isn't very effective as a punt returner...the facts show he is one of the absolute best.

Frankie
09-03-2012, 03:41 PM
LMAO

I like his GIFs and Video clips. His posts (well a good half of them at least) and his radically swinging loyalties are loserish, but his visual contributions to this BB are appreciated.

You can find a guy like Arenas in the 3rd or 4th round.

He was overdrafted, period.

Maybe if he brought Hester-like value to the return game, he'd be worth that pick. He doesn't.

With a Hester-like return value I'd take him in the 1st.

mcaj22
09-03-2012, 03:42 PM
ROFL

The only guy I'd take over Arenas out of those guys is Cody.

BTW...calling Cody or Spikes a "3 down player" is a ****ing joke and shows your inability to understand your own comment.

all those guys start

at real NFL positions and not a part time gadget 2nd string position

BossChief
09-03-2012, 03:45 PM
I wouldn't say it was a BAD pick.

I would just say he was drafted a little too high.

It's not like Arenas sucks or anything. He's good at what he does. He's not Dexter McCluster. I appreciate what Arenas does for our team.

But when you draft a corner that high, he should absolutely have the ability to be a starter, or at least a spot starter.

It's OK to make a pick like Arenas when you are nailing your other high picks.

Pioli doesn't, unfortunately.

WTF?

In todays NFL, a nickel corner is basically a starter.

How many snaps did Arenas play last year as opposed to Carr or Flowers?

60-70% is my guess.

Lets not act like Pioli hasn't drafted extremely well, either.

We have been one of the best drafting teams in the league the last 4 drafts.

Count Zarth
09-03-2012, 03:46 PM
Clay, can you post your Pioli sorry pic? I've been looking around for it forever.

http://i.imgur.com/tpMlx.jpg

Count Zarth
09-03-2012, 03:47 PM
How many snaps did Arenas play last year as opposed to Carr or Flowers?

60-70% is my guess.


382 snaps

Almost 1,000 for Flowers.

Not remotely the same thing.

And he can't start on the outside in the event of an injury.

That is why his value is lower.

Shit, there were 8 games last year where he played less than 20 snaps.

2nd round pick? LMAO

Spongeblack Bobtard
09-03-2012, 03:49 PM
Wasn't he like 3rd in punt return average last year?

BigMeatballDave
09-03-2012, 03:50 PM
part time gadget 2nd string positionLMAO

Dumb fucking post.

chiefzilla1501
09-03-2012, 03:50 PM
WTF?

In todays NFL, a nickel corner is basically a starter.

How many snaps did Arenas play last year as opposed to Carr or Flowers?

60-70% is my guess.

Lets not act like Pioli hasn't drafted extremely well, either.

We have been one of the best drafting teams in the league the last 4 drafts.

I would agree with you here. Pioli has mostly done a very remarkable job building this roster. It's a shame his croneyism has led him to, in my opinion, less than perfect decisions at the two most important jobs on an NFL team -- head coach and Quarterback. If we get a real QB, this is a very, very dangerous team for years to come.

BossChief
09-03-2012, 03:50 PM
all those guys start

at real NFL positions and not a part time gadget 2nd string position

Stop embarrassing yourself by using NFL terms and just walk away.
Slowly.

I bet Arenas played more snaps than Spikes or Cody.

Tate is injury prone.

Angerer and Lee are decent linebackers, but I don't think the difference between either guy and Belcher is that big.

The difference between Arenas and the other corners we have had playing nickel for us over the years? HUGE

chiefzilla1501
09-03-2012, 03:54 PM
382 snaps

Almost 1,000 for Flowers.

Not remotely the same thing.

And he can't start on the outside in the event of an injury.

That is why his value is lower.

Shit, there were 8 games last year where he played less than 20 snaps.

2nd round pick? LMAO

That doesn't matter. Teams are increasing the amount of times you play in the spread. Plain and simple, if you want to beat teams like New England and New Orleans in the playoffs, you have to have outstanding play from the nickel and they may be called on to play over half of the snaps.

Taking a role player late in the second is okay. I don't know why people are treating that pick like it's some kind of a money-maker. You're either going to take a really good role player or likely take a very good player at a tier 2 position like Inside LB or Safety or Guard. If you're very, very lucky, you get a top-notch tier 1 player, but that doesn't happen nearly as often as we think.

So no, I'm not going to get upset if we chose a nickel back over an Inside LB.

Count Zarth
09-03-2012, 03:54 PM
Arenas - 382 snaps
Spikes - 542 snaps in only 11 games (incl. playoffs)
Cody - 544 snaps in 18 games (incl. playoffs)

value? how does it work?

BigMeatballDave
09-03-2012, 03:55 PM
Who knew the Nickel was a gadget?

:facepalm:

Count Zarth
09-03-2012, 03:56 PM
I wouldn't call Arenas a gadget at all.

Again, he's not Dexter McBuster.

He's a player with value on our defense.

Value that can be found in the 3rd or 4th.

BossChief
09-03-2012, 03:57 PM
Arenas - 382 snaps
Spikes - 542 snaps in only 11 games (incl. playoffs)
Cody - 544 snaps in 18 games (incl. playoffs)

value? how does it work?

You cant count playoff snaps and keep it fair.

Those have to be taken out to have a level playing field.

BossChief
09-03-2012, 03:59 PM
I wouldn't call Arenas a gadget at all.

Again, he's not Dexter McBuster.

He's a player with value on our defense.

Value that can be found in the 3rd or 4th.

JFC

Did you just glance over the whole post where I posted every corner drafted in the 3rd and 4th round over the last 3 drafts?

There is VERY LITTLE non trash in the list.

Stop posting in 1996 style.

Chiefs Pantalones
09-03-2012, 04:04 PM
http://i.imgur.com/tpMlx.jpg

lol thanks man

Count Zarth
09-03-2012, 04:07 PM
Alterraun Verner is actually a very good CB with the ability to start on the outside.

His PFF rating blows Arenas out of the water.

Would you like to know more?

That is the kind of player Pioli needs to be hitting on since he is Mr. Universe GM Of The Millenia

Also, the argument isn't that "Pioli should have picked X corner in round 3 or 4 instead of Arenas."

It's only that he could have picked someone else in the 2nd.

Could have easily found a nickel some other way...it's not exactly a hard position to fill.

BigMeatballDave
09-03-2012, 04:07 PM
I wouldn't call Arenas a gadget at all.


Someone did, though.

BossChief
09-03-2012, 04:11 PM
Alterraun Verner is actually a very good CB with the ability to start on the outside.

His PFF rating blows Arenas out of the water.

Would you like to know more?

That is the kind of player Pioli needs to be hitting on since he is Mr. Universe GM Of The Millenia

Also, the argument isn't that "Pioli should have picked X corner in round 3 or 4 instead of Arenas."

It's only that he could have picked someone else in the 2nd.

Could have easily found a nickel some other way...it's not exactly a hard position to fill.

If the bolded isnt your argument, then why do you keep saying "he should have gotten a guy like him in the third/fourth round herp."

The rate of success of Piolis picks is far greater than most teams.

If you get 2 starters from 1 draft and 1 or 2 more guys that stick on the roster, you are doing well.

We have hit on almost 75% of our picks. (meaning they are solid contributors and are still on the team)

Its a shame Pioli has failed thus far at the most important position, though.

It almost eliminates everything positive he has done.

Think about that for a second.

Count Zarth
09-03-2012, 04:19 PM
75 percent is an absurd number.

Especially since I'm sure you're including guys like Allen Bailey, who are not impressing at the moment.

Pioli screwed up on 8 of 9 picks in ONE DRAFT (including Cassel trade)

There's no way that translates to 75 percent.

BossChief
09-03-2012, 04:28 PM
"Solid contributors and are still on the team"

I count 17/24 that are still on the roster from the 3 drafts Pioli has had (Im obviously not gonna count anything from the 2012 draft) and all of them look to contribute this year.

Thats 71%...close enough.

1 26 Jonathan Baldwin WR Pittsburgh
2 55 Rodney Hudson C Florida State
3 70 Justin Houston LB Georgia
3 86 Allen Bailey DE Miami (Fla.)
4 118 Jalil Brown DB Colorado
5 135 Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa
5 140 Gabe Miller LB Oregon State
6 199 Jerrell Powe NT Mississippi
7 223 Shane Bannon FB Yale

1 5 Eric Berry SS Tennessee
2 36 Dexter McCluster WR Mississippi
2 50 Javier Arenas DB Alabama
3 68 Jon Asamoah G Illinois
3 93 Tony Moeaki TE Iowa
4 142 Cameron Sheffield LB Troy
5 136 Kendrick Lewis FS Mississippi

1 3 Tyson Jackson DE Louisiana State
3 67 Alex Magee DT Purdue
4 102 Donald Washington DB Ohio State
5 139 Colin Brown T Missouri
6 175 Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State
7 212 Javarris Williams RB Tennessee State
7 237 Jake O'Connell TE Miami (Ohio)
7 256 Ryan Succop K South Carolina

Count Zarth
09-03-2012, 04:38 PM
Jalil Brown? Ricky Stanzi? Jerrell Powe? Allen Bailey? Dexter McCluster? Cameron Sheffield?

JAKE O'CONNELL? TYSON JACKSON?

LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO

You think Pioli hit on those picks?

LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO

Cleanup on aisle homer, BossChief has made a mess.

irishfan
09-03-2012, 04:40 PM
Their offensive line sucks.

Their defense is soft and looks like the worst tackling defense in the league.

They have no MLB.

They have no safeties.

Ryan chokes in big games.

He's 0-2 when starting the season on the road.

The Falcons have never won at Arrowhead.

I would dispute the claim that Ryan chokes in big games, but even if he did... a 1pm ET regular season game against a team that finished the previous year bottom of a garbage division is probably not something he considers a big game.

Count Zarth
09-03-2012, 04:41 PM
Yeah, this is definitely not a big game.

This is an NFC powerhouse taking a road trip to take a shit on an AFC bottom feeder.

irishfan
09-03-2012, 04:53 PM
I dunno if things are that bad. It is true the falcons O-line is aweful, and the overrall tackling ability of their D leaves a lot to be desired

mcaj22
09-03-2012, 04:56 PM
"Solid contributors and are still on the team"

I count 17/24 that are still on the roster from the 3 drafts Pioli has had (Im obviously not gonna count anything from the 2012 draft) and all of them look to contribute this year.

Thats 71%...close enough.

1 26 Jonathan Baldwin WR Pittsburgh
2 55 Rodney Hudson C Florida State
3 70 Justin Houston LB Georgia
3 86 Allen Bailey DE Miami (Fla.)
4 118 Jalil Brown DB Colorado
5 135 Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa
5 140 Gabe Miller LB Oregon State
6 199 Jerrell Powe NT Mississippi
7 223 Shane Bannon FB Yale

1 5 Eric Berry SS Tennessee
2 36 Dexter McCluster WR Mississippi
2 50 Javier Arenas DB Alabama
3 68 Jon Asamoah G Illinois
3 93 Tony Moeaki TE Iowa
4 142 Cameron Sheffield LB Troy
5 136 Kendrick Lewis FS Mississippi

1 3 Tyson Jackson DE Louisiana State
3 67 Alex Magee DT Purdue
4 102 Donald Washington DB Ohio State
5 139 Colin Brown T Missouri
6 175 Quinten Lawrence WR McNeese State
7 212 Javarris Williams RB Tennessee State
7 237 Jake O'Connell TE Miami (Ohio)
7 256 Ryan Succop K South Carolina


contributors? what have they contributed exactly? 3/4s if this list have done nothing good in terms of legitimate NFL production in their careers yet. Absolutely nothing. Pure homerism to crown these guys already even as even role players