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Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 06:24 PM
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2012/9/4/3292502/kansas-city-chiefs-depth-chart

Baldwin not starting. LMAO

Toribio listed as starter at NT.

Studebaker at OLB.

Jalil Brown is Flowers' backup. :facepalm:

No backups at C, RG or RT. http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/ugh.gif

Kevin Boss starting TE.

Dicky McElephant
09-04-2012, 06:24 PM
FFS.....So Baldwin is going to be the #4 WR? Because he damn sure isn't starting in the slot.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 06:25 PM
FFS.....So Baldwin is going to be the #4 WR? Because he damn sure isn't starting in the slot.

Please.

Enjoy your 10 snaps, Dexter.

Cornstock
09-04-2012, 06:26 PM
Love the idea of having split backs with Charles and Hillis. Lets see some 1969 wishbone formations!

OnTheWarpath58
09-04-2012, 06:26 PM
No backups at C, RG or RT. http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/ugh.gif


But we have 5 RB's and 4 TE's, so we're cool.

It's a process.

KC Tattoo
09-04-2012, 06:28 PM
http://www.nfl.com/teams/kansascitychiefs/depthchart?team=KC


I don't know where they get there information but looks like Baldwin is starting opposite side of Bowe to me.

mcaj22
09-04-2012, 06:28 PM
lol

Brock
09-04-2012, 06:29 PM
Hard to believe people are going to bitch about RB depth after last year.

mcaj22
09-04-2012, 06:30 PM
i just dont like the fact that they for whatever reason refuse to now play Travis Daniels at CB and put him at FS. And that Jalil Brown is literally one lingering injury to Flowers away from stepping in a NFL game covering team's #1 WRs.

that is fucked.

OnTheWarpath58
09-04-2012, 06:32 PM
http://www.nfl.com/teams/kansascitychiefs/depthchart?team=KC


I don't know where they get there information but looks like Baldwin is starting opposite side of Bowe to me.

Other than that spot, (at a glance) it seems to be identical to the one AP posted.

Bigger issue is the lack of backup OLmen.

mcaj22
09-04-2012, 06:33 PM
the defense also looks thin because they chose to carry 45 TEs and 35 RBs.

the one depth chart has Siler backing up Justin Houston. Like Cam Sheffield doesnt even exist. Nobody backing up Glenn Dorsey lol

And Stanford Routt is being backed up by Javier Arenas? If any of our first 3 CBs go down I am going to feel sick.

SNR
09-04-2012, 06:33 PM
i just dont like the fact that they for whatever reason refuse to now play Travis Daniels at CB and put him at FS. And that Jalil Brown is literally one lingering injury to Flowers away from stepping in a NFL game covering team's #1 WRs.

that is fucked.Agreed. I do think Daniels will switch back and forth. They need him at CB badly

SNR
09-04-2012, 06:34 PM
the defense also looks thin because they chose to carry 45 TEs and 35 RBs.

the one depth chart has Siler backing up Justin Houston. Like Cam Sheffield doesnt even exist.


That's an error. Sheffield is still on the team, so it makes sense that he's the backup to Houston.

Detoxing
09-04-2012, 06:35 PM
But we have 5 RB's and 4 TE's, so we're cool.

It's a process.

You're better than this. The 5 RB and 4 TE thing is a bit silly, but lets not act like Allen & Stephenson aren't swing players.

If Hudson goes down, Lilja will move to C and Allen will step in at LG.

jd1020
09-04-2012, 06:35 PM
the defense also looks thin because they chose to carry 45 TEs and 35 RBs.

the one depth chart has Siler backing up Justin Houston. Like Cam Sheffield doesnt even exist. Nobody backing up Glenn Dorsey lol

And Stanford Routt is being backed up by Javier Arenas? If any of our first 3 CBs go down I am going to feel sick.

I would imagine one of those RBs or TEs will be cut when Hali returns. (I'm looking at you O'Connell)

listopencil
09-04-2012, 06:35 PM
Wait. Where is your starting Quarterback? Is he not listed?

Detoxing
09-04-2012, 06:38 PM
I would imagine one of those RBs or TEs will be cut when Hali returns. (I'm looking at you O'Connell)

This.

And as far as the Baldwin thing goes.....do you guys honestly think Baldwin won't be seeing significant playing time each game?

Don't be GoChiefs stupid.

mcaj22
09-04-2012, 06:39 PM
Agreed. I do think Daniels will switch back and forth. They need him at CB badly

i actually think they are going to start Daniels at FS for the hurt Lewis

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 06:40 PM
i just dont like the fact that they for whatever reason refuse to now play Travis Daniels at CB and put him at FS. And that Jalil Brown is literally one lingering injury to Flowers away from stepping in a NFL game covering team's #1 WRs.

that is fucked.

If Jalil Brown is on the field at LCB before Travis Daniels, Romeo is who we thought he was.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 06:41 PM
This.

And as far as the Baldwin thing goes.....do you guys honestly think Baldwin won't be seeing significant playing time each game?

Don't be GoChiefs stupid.

After a very disappointing preseason for Jon Baldwin, it wouldn't surprise me if they're not comfortable with him being a starter.

He did not look like a starter in preseason.

Breaston has earned the benefit of the doubt after last year. He played almost 900 snaps.

Pawnmower
09-04-2012, 06:41 PM
But we have 5 RB's and 4 TE's


wut

da


fuuuuu

BWillie
09-04-2012, 06:43 PM
Don't really understand why Moeaki isn't starting

the Talking Can
09-04-2012, 06:44 PM
Don't really understand why Moeaki isn't starting

Boss outplayed him

Detoxing
09-04-2012, 06:44 PM
After a very disappointing preseason for Jon Baldwin, it wouldn't surprise me if they're not comfortable with him being a starter.

He did not look like a starter in preseason.

Breaston has earned the benefit of the doubt after last year. He played almost 900 snaps.

And that's fine. But Baldwin, just like last season, will see plenty of time on the field. It's not like he's going to be buried on the depth chart or that there is some cause for concern.

Right now, we have 3 good WR's. They will interchange Breaston and Baldwin. I thought that was a given.

DeezNutz
09-04-2012, 06:45 PM
Don't really understand why Moeaki isn't starting

Week 6...

KC Tattoo
09-04-2012, 06:46 PM
After a very disappointing preseason for Jon Baldwin, it wouldn't surprise me if they're not comfortable with him being a starter.

He did not look like a starter in preseason.

Breaston has earned the benefit of the doubt after last year. He played almost 900 snaps.

Breaston didn't do anything during preseason to show up Baldwin. And all the reports have shown Baldwin had a great camp. They both will get plenty of play time. Baldwin will start and he is listed as starter per Chiefs Links up at top Depth Chart.

Detoxing
09-04-2012, 06:46 PM
Boss outplayed him

+

ACL.

Boss over Moeaki isn't surprising either.

the Talking Can
09-04-2012, 06:47 PM
Bailey has been a disappointment and a no show

i hope we're holding on to a 4th TE and 5RB only temporarily...that's pointless

only 7 OL...again, i hope they're holding a spot for a vet...or maybe they plan on running a lot of two TE....meh

Detoxing
09-04-2012, 06:48 PM
Bailey has been a disappointment and a no show

i hope we're holding on to a 4th TE and 5RB only temporarily...that's pointless

only 7 OL...again, i hope they're holding a spot for a vet...or maybe they plan on running a lot of two TE....meh

O'Connel has to go.....wtf.

Molitoth
09-04-2012, 06:48 PM
Jake O'Connell is such a waste of a roster spot.

He better kick some fucking special team ass, because in his years here he hasn't shown much of shit at TE.

the Talking Can
09-04-2012, 06:49 PM
and i'm not down on moeaki...he seems to be recovering the slowest

and Cassel is so poor that most of the routes run by anyone not named McCluster are wasted...

Detoxing
09-04-2012, 06:49 PM
and i'm not down on moeaki...he seems to be recovering the slowest

and Cassel is so poor that most of the routes run by anyone not named McCluster are wasted...

this too.

BigMeatballDave
09-04-2012, 06:53 PM
Hard to believe people are going to bitch about RB depth after last year.

LOL Yep

BWillie
09-04-2012, 06:54 PM
Boss outplayed him

I dont care about any minute of preseason. Hope moeaki turns it on and regains his spot, he can be a real weapon

qabbaan
09-04-2012, 06:56 PM
You know what they say, if you think you've got four good tight ends you've really got none

Sofa King
09-04-2012, 06:56 PM
Seeing Jake O'connell's name makes me want to kill something.

qabbaan
09-04-2012, 06:57 PM
I dont care about any minute of preseason. Hope moeaki turns it on and regains his spot, he can be a real weapon

Yes, he will be the belle of the ball until his connective tissue turns back into masking tape at midnight

Detoxing
09-04-2012, 06:57 PM
Seeing Jake O'connell's name makes me want to kill something.

yup

mcaj22
09-04-2012, 07:00 PM
I dont care about any minute of preseason. Hope moeaki turns it on and regains his spot, he can be a real weapon

let's not act like Kevin Boss is some slouch here.

He has Moeaki beat in every career stat production wise. He can do similar things like Moeaki, and he can definitely block better.

This isn't some Todd Haley naming Leonard Pope the starter over Moeaki nonsense. Boss actually has a starting TE NFL caliber skill set.

It's not bad if he beats out Moeaki fair and square.

All of this doesn't matter anyway because Cassel is our QB.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 07:03 PM
Bailey has been a disappointment and a no show


Holy shit, he's third string.

That's a real bad sign.

BossChief tells me Pioli "hit" on the Bailey pick, though.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 07:04 PM
Breaston didn't do anything during preseason to show up Baldwin. And all the reports have shown Baldwin had a great camp. They both will get plenty of play time. Baldwin will start and he is listed as starter per Chiefs Links up at top Depth Chart.

No, he is not listed as a starter per the OFFICIAL DEPTH CHART.

That's kind of the point.

Breaston has earned the benefit of the doubt to be the starter, based on his, uh STELLAR CAREER.

Baldwin? He's a chump who had a chump preseason.

Waiting to be impressed.

mcaj22
09-04-2012, 07:06 PM
BossChief also argued with me all summer that Tony Moeaki was a first round value Pioli hit as well over guys like Jimmy Graham and Aaron Hernandez.

and he's 2nd string.

qabbaan
09-04-2012, 07:07 PM
Looking over that depth chart, it's hard to be excited about this team. If we weren't in the AFC west that is probably a roster that would do well to get to 8-8

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 07:08 PM
And that's fine. But Baldwin, just like last season, will see plenty of time on the field. It's not like he's going to be buried on the depth chart or that there is some cause for concern.

Right now, we have 3 good WR's. They will interchange Breaston and Baldwin. I thought that was a given.

How many good offenses rotate the #2 WR?

LMAO

Seems extremely counterproductive.

Guys like Nate Burleson and Deion Branch played 1,000 + snaps last year.

But Jon Baldwin is a backup who is going to rotate in? :doh!:

whoman69
09-04-2012, 07:09 PM
Everything beyond this...

QB Matt Cassel

... is irrelevant

DTLB58
09-04-2012, 07:10 PM
i just dont like the fact that they for whatever reason refuse to now play Travis Daniels at CB and put him at FS. And that Jalil Brown is literally one lingering injury to Flowers away from stepping in a NFL game covering team's #1 WRs.

that is ****ed.

Amen! They could lose the game on that decision alone imo.

KC Tattoo
09-04-2012, 07:21 PM
No, he is not listed as a starter per the OFFICIAL DEPTH CHART.

That's kind of the point.

Breaston has earned the benefit of the doubt to be the starter, based on his, uh STELLAR CAREER.

Baldwin? He's a chump who had a chump preseason.

Waiting to be impressed.

Baldwin will do just fine this year, the only thing he got going against him is the QB. He has skill set that can surpass Breaston doesn't have the experience but he will get there. Two years from now Breaston may not even be on this team while Baldwin will be a force to deal with.

Chiefnj2
09-04-2012, 07:28 PM
Baldwin should be fourth on the depth chart. He hasn't done a thing yet. Pioli has done a poor job with depth at the OL.

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2012, 07:30 PM
2012 Pioli's Last Stand

KC Tattoo
09-04-2012, 07:30 PM
Baldwin should be fourth on the depth chart. He hasn't done a thing yet. Pioli has done a poor job with depth at the OL.

Going into the season I thought we were going be stack at depth for OL but now not so much. Not looking good there.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 07:33 PM
Baldwin will do just fine this year.

Or he could be a total bust.

The evidence we have right now says he sucks.

Stop being a homer.

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2012, 07:37 PM
Baldwin will do just fine this year, the only thing he got going against him is the QB. He has skill set that can surpass Breaston doesn't have the experience but he will get there. Two years from now Breaston may not even be on this team while Baldwin will be a force to deal with.

You're really going to use Cassel to argue the guys lack of production? If he fails it will be because he can't get separation and has stone hands.

KC Tattoo
09-04-2012, 07:42 PM
Or he could be a total bust.

The evidence we have right now says he sucks.

Stop being a homer.

There hasn't been any evidence he is going to suck this year or be a bust. He will do fine. Some players catch on quicker than others, but he will be out there making plays and looking good when he does.

Yeah maybe a bit of homer, but it's only his second year in the league. Last year was too much of a cluster fuck for any of the players to get a fair read. Palko muther fucking Palko. Our QB challenged team is what holds us back and development of what could be great players to see.

KC Tattoo
09-04-2012, 07:43 PM
You're really going to use Cassel to argue the guys lack of production? If he fails it will be because he can't get separation and has stone hands.

Not just Baldwins production but as a team. Cassel holds the team back except in the running game. I will give Cassel credit for being a great hand off QB.

KC Tattoo
09-04-2012, 07:50 PM
You're really going to use Cassel to argue the guys lack of production? If he fails it will be because he can't get separation and has stone hands.

And for one, you can't tell me if we had a QB like Aaron Rodgers we wouldn't be contenders right now. Rodgers would make all the guys look better or play up to there potential. It's just the way it is untill we get a QB of our own that can make the guys around him better. That's how great elite QBs work, they make the team better.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 07:54 PM
There hasn't been any evidence he is going to suck this year or be a bust.

Yes there has...his best preseason game was 6 catches for 37 yards.

He dropped two passes in preseason and for a "deep threat" he has failed horribly so far in real games catching the ball down the field....apart from one game.

He is definitely the worst first round pick of the Pioli era so far and with Tyson Jackson on the roster that is saying A LOT.

KC Tattoo
09-04-2012, 07:56 PM
Yes there has...his best preseason game was 6 catches for 37 yards.

He dropped two passes in preseason and for a "deep threat" he has failed horribly so far in real games catching the ball down the field....apart from one game.

He is definitely the worst first round pick of the Pioli era so far and with Tyson Jackson on the roster that is saying A LOT.

Meh, give him time. He will produce, but I stand by that the QB holds the team back so that is against him.

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2012, 07:58 PM
And for one, you can't tell me if we had a QB like Aaron Rodgers we wouldn't be contenders right now. Rodgers would make all the guys look better or play up to there potential. It's just the way it is untill we get a QB of our own that can make the guys around him better. That's how great elite QBs work, they make the team better.

If I had a million dollars i'd be a millionaire.


You can't have your cake and eat it too. If the team is being held back by Cassel it also means it's being held back by Pioli.

xztop12
09-04-2012, 07:58 PM
I don't understand the emphasis we're still putting on special teams with the kickoff rule change

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 07:58 PM
Meh, give him time. He will produce, but I stand by that the QB holds the team back so that is against him.

Cassel sucks, but does he hold back Steve Breaston? Does he hold back Dwayne Bowe?

Yes, but those guys still produce at a solid level.

Baldwin looks like shit.

You see what I'm getting at here? Baldwin has done shit in every game he has played in the NFL except one.

Caseyguyrr
09-04-2012, 08:00 PM
+

ACL.

Boss over Moeaki isn't surprising either.

I'm fine with Boss starting over Moeaki, for now

KC Tattoo
09-04-2012, 08:03 PM
If I had a million dollars i'd be a millionaire.


You can't have your cake and eat it too. If the team is being held back by Cassel it also means it's being held back by Pioli.

I would not argue against that one bit. I'm looking at next years draft and who is our QB starting next season to decide upon Pioli. Right now I don't see him any better than Carl Peterson so it wouldn't hurt my feelings if he got fired just because we don't win a playoff game THIS year.

Spongeblack Bobtard
09-04-2012, 08:22 PM
I'm fine with Boss starting over Moeaki, for now

Be careful. You will get killed for saying that.

I'm not buying into the depth chart. I doubt Bowe plays very much. It's kind of like the way Jones was always ahead of Charles on the depth chart. Also, there will probably be guys activated from the practice squad and others deactivated.

BoneKrusher
09-04-2012, 08:25 PM
so much for Baldwins great camp.

wtf's up with that?

BossChief
09-04-2012, 08:26 PM
Holy shit, he's third string.

That's a real bad sign.

BossChief tells me Pioli "hit" on the Bailey pick, though.HAHAHA

How many times do you have to be told that depth charts mean little to nothing for this regime?

Justin Houston started every game, but was only listed on the teams depth chart as the starter in 10 games or so.

Same goes for Moeaki his rookie year...he was listed as the backup a few games, but when the starting unit came out on the field, he was right there in the huddle with them.

Has Bailey showed well this preseason? Not really and that's disappointing...but lets not act as if that makes him some failed pick.

The guy was in total beast mode down the stretch last year IN REAL GAMES.



BossChief also argued with me all summer that Tony Moeaki was a first round value Pioli hit as well over guys like Jimmy Graham and Aaron Hernandez.

and he's 2nd string.
You are a complete idiot that cant understand simple points and that makes it worthless to even have a normal conversation with you.

I have said, probably over 50 times on here, that Moeaki was a 1st round value WITH INJURIES TAKEN OUT OF THE EQUATION.

THATS WHY HE WAS A THIRD ROUND PICK.

Let me ask you a question...

In 2010, do you think he wasnt a first round quality player?...because he was...in fact, Rich Gosslein (one of the most respected sports writers in the nation) had a redraft at the end of the year and he had Tony Moeaki as a top 20 pick.

Go fuck your cat.

BossChief
09-04-2012, 08:27 PM
so much for Baldwins great camp.

wtf's up with that?

He was matching up against Jalil Brown every day.

Let me also make this clear as day....Jalil Brown WILL be a good corner in this league, but he clearly isnt ready yet.

I have said since day one that the kid has similar talents to Brandon Carr at the same stage of his career...give him time and he will shine the same.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 08:28 PM
Houston started 10 games last year.

http://www.nfl.com/player/justinhouston/2495493/profile

Tony Moeaki started 15 games as a rookie.

http://www.nfl.com/player/tonymoeaki/497256/profile

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Are you suggesting Pope was listed as the starter in 2010 for more than one game?

The guy was in total beast mode down the stretch last year IN REAL GAMES.


No he wasn't.

He made a handful of plays.

In no way was he beast mode.

This is like you overrating Jalil Brown, all over again.

BoneKrusher
09-04-2012, 08:30 PM
He was matching up against Jalil Brown every day.

Let me also make this clear as day....Jalil Brown WILL be a good corner in this league, but he clearly isnt ready yet.

I have said since day one that the kid has similar talents to Brandon Carr at the same stage of his career...give him time and he will shine the same.

see see.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 08:30 PM
so much for Baldwins great camp.

wtf's up with that?

He was beasting on shitty corners.

BossChief
09-04-2012, 08:31 PM
Yes there has...his best preseason game was 6 catches for 37 yards.

He dropped two passes in preseason and for a "deep threat" he has failed horribly so far in real games catching the ball down the field....apart from one game.

He is definitely the worst first round pick of the Pioli era so far and with Tyson Jackson on the roster that is saying A LOT.

He is the #2 receiver for a team with Matt Cassel.

Basically, he is a turbo and a cold air intake on a geo metro at this point.

BoneKrusher
09-04-2012, 08:37 PM
He was beasting on shitty corners.

yep, i see, no Brandon Flowers or Brandon Carr could do that to a WR,

BossChief
09-04-2012, 08:38 PM
Houston started 10 games last year.

http://www.nfl.com/player/justinhouston/2495493/profile

Tony Moeaki started 15 games as a rookie.

http://www.nfl.com/player/tonymoeaki/497256/profile

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Are you suggesting Pope was listed as the starter in 2010 for more than one game?



No he wasn't.

He made a handful of plays.

In no way was he beast mode.

This is like you overrating Jalil Brown, all over again.

Are you saying that Justin Houston wasn't out there with the 10 other starters on defense to start the game in the other 6 games?

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 08:40 PM
He is the #2 receiver for a team with Matt Cassel.

Basically, he is a turbo and a cold air intake on a geo metro at this point.

I don't think he is a turbo.

Otherwise, he'd have beaten out Breaston for that #2 spot.

He's more like...the spoiler some idiot puts on his toyota corolla.

Setsuna
09-04-2012, 08:42 PM
Where is SNR? He was straight all over Baldwin's nuts and now....:hmmm:

O.city
09-04-2012, 08:42 PM
Excited for this regime to be flushed, the new one brought in and Clay to start up this same shit again in every single thread. It's a joy.

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2012, 08:47 PM
He was matching up against Jalil Brown every day.

Let me also make this clear as day....Jalil Brown WILL be a good corner in this league, but he clearly isnt ready yet.

I have said since day one that the kid has similar talents to Brandon Carr at the same stage of his career...give him time and he will shine the same.

I don't recall you ever saying Brown was similar to Carr. You got a link?

I do know that Cordell who you always quote said it a few days ago.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 08:48 PM
Are you saying that Justin Houston wasn't out there with the 10 other starters on defense to start the game in the other 6 games?

Yes. That is how the NFL defines "started a game." Was the guy out there?

In fact, just look at the game books.


KC @ Detroit - Sheffield

http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/55206/SD_Gamebook.pdf

KC @ Indy - Studebaker

http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/55231/IND_Gamebook.pdf

KC @ Oak - Studebaker

http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/55262/OAK_Gamebook.pdf

SD @ KC - Studebaker

http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/55279/KC_Gamebook.pdf

MIA @ KC - Studebaker

http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/55284/KC_Gamebook.pdf


I could probably show you screenshots of the first defensive snap from those games, and Houston is not on the field, too.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 08:49 PM
Excited for this regime to be flushed, the new one brought in and Clay to start up this same shit again in every single thread. It's a joy.

Dude.

I was very optimistic about this regime in 2009.

Just as I was optimistic about Herm when he came aboard.

I always give people a chance.

Luke Warm
09-04-2012, 08:49 PM
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2012/9/4/3292502/kansas-city-chiefs-depth-chart

Baldwin not starting. LMAO

Toribio listed as starter at NT.

Studebaker at OLB.

Jalil Brown is Flowers' backup. :facepalm:

No backups at C, RG or RT. http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/ugh.gif

Kevin Boss starting TE.

Chiefs 23 Falcons 20. Chiefs start 1-0.

O.city
09-04-2012, 08:50 PM
And you get upset when people say you flip flop?

O.city
09-04-2012, 08:52 PM
CHIEFS WORKOUT 4 PLAYERS
September 4, 2012 - Bob Gretz | No Comments
The Chiefs have been sifting through the pile of released players around the league and had at least four of them in for workouts. They were:
LB Bobby Carpenter – 6-2, 249 pounds, 7-year veteran from Ohio State who was released by New England.
CB Chris Carr – 5-10, 181 pounds, 8-year veteran from Boise State who was released by Minnesota.
CB Dominique Franks – 6-0, 197 pounds, 3-year veteran from Oklahoma who was released by Atlanta.
LB Bryan Kehl – 6-2, 244 pounds, 5-year veteran from Brigham Young who was released by Washington.

SNR
09-04-2012, 08:52 PM
Where is SNR? He was straight all over Baldwin's nuts and now....:hmmm:

Jamaal Charles wasn't the starter in 2010.

THE DEPTH CHART TELLS ALL.

Go move to LA so you can watch your favorite team

KC Tattoo
09-04-2012, 08:54 PM
Dude.

I was very optimistic about this regime in 2009.

Just as I was optimistic about Herm when he came aboard.

I always give people a chance.

Your not giving Baldwin a chance for his second year. Only his second year I think he will come through just fine & make this season count and take a step up. He may not dominate until his third year but he will start making impressions for an up comming WR learning his craft.

SNR
09-04-2012, 08:54 PM
so much for Baldwins great camp.

wtf's up with that?
Dude still needs some adjustment time. He's going to be fine. Romeo and Daboll didn't do him any favors by putting him in an offense led by retards and assholes at QB who can't find open receivers more than 10 yards down the field.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 08:59 PM
Your not giving Baldwin a chance for his second year.

I am giving him a chance.

I'm just saying that so far he's dog shit, and him being the #3 WR is not a good thing.

Setsuna
09-04-2012, 09:00 PM
Dude still needs some adjustment time. He's going to be fine. Romeo and Daboll didn't do him any favors by putting him in an offense led by retards and assholes at QB who can't find open receivers more than 10 yards down the field.

ROFL now you're making excuses? Just stop. I should pull up your posts constantly :whackit: this dude.

O.city
09-04-2012, 09:00 PM
I am giving him a chance.

I'm just saying that so far he's dog shit, and him being the #3 WR is not a good thing.

That makes no sense.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 09:01 PM
And you get upset when people say you flip flop?

I don't flip flop.

Anyone who didn't change their opinion of Herm Edwards by the first month of 2008 was a complete moron living in a dream world.

I've had very clear, distinct moments when I turned on our last two head coaches and haven't reversed.

Herm - first month of 2008
Pioli/Haley - middle of 2010

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 09:01 PM
That makes no sense.

It makes a lot of sense. Baldwin is dog shit. I'm not giving up on him, but he needs to start doing non dog shit things pretty quickly here or, welp.

O.city
09-04-2012, 09:02 PM
I guess the Balla ass GM posts were what?

O.city
09-04-2012, 09:03 PM
It makes a lot of sense. Baldwin is dog shit. I'm not giving up on him, but he needs to start doing non dog shit things pretty quickly here or, welp.

So is he dog shit or isn't he?

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 09:05 PM
I guess the Balla ass GM posts were what?

:facepalm:

How many fucking times do I have to explain this?

You can give someone credit for doing something. It doesn't mean you suddenly are homertastically in love with them.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 09:05 PM
So is he dog shit or isn't he?

Right now he's dog shit until proven otherwise.

Just like Tyson Jackson was in 2009.

KC Tattoo
09-04-2012, 09:06 PM
I am giving him a chance.

I'm just saying that so far he's dog shit, and him being the #3 WR is not a good thing.

I'm not buying that Baldwin is placed as #3WR on charts. He will get more playing time than Breaston & they both will be getting snaps. Breaston has the experience over Baldwin would be the only thing that gives him the edge if he does get more playing time. I'm not going take the depth chart at face value.

As the season goes it will get changed & I'm looking at Powe to move up the ranks for NT spot. A good rotatation & keeping them fresh will help out.

O.city
09-04-2012, 09:06 PM
:facepalm:

How many ****ing times do I have to explain this?

You can give someone credit for doing something. It doesn't mean you suddenly are homertastically in love with them.

The fact that you give a single post of credit, and drone on for days about the negative stuff is what tends to bother people I'd imagine.

SNR
09-04-2012, 09:07 PM
ROFL now you're making excuses? Just stop. I should pull up your posts constantly :whackit: this dude.

Who's making excuses? I said I'm not worried.

It's understandable that you think depth charts are like scientific laws. Your team sucks. On other teams the depth charts don't mean shit.

Did you know that Donald Driver was the WR2 on the Green Bay Packers last year and not Jordy Nelson?

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 09:09 PM
The fact that you give a single post of credit, and drone on for days about the negative stuff is what tends to bother people I'd imagine.

Look around.

Everyone here is droning on about the negative stuff after our shit preseason.

I spent the entire offseason doing it, and for good reason.

So far, LOOKS LIKE OLD GEAUXCHIEFS WAS A FUCKING PROPHET.

O.city
09-04-2012, 09:11 PM
Look around.

Everyone here is droning on about the negative stuff after our shit preseason.

I spent the entire offseason doing it, and for good reason.

So far, LOOKS LIKE OLD GEAUXCHIEFS WAS A ****ING PROPHET.

Yeah we all know you spent the whole preseason doing it.


Made this site such a joy.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 09:25 PM
Yeah we all know you spent the whole preseason doing it.


Made this site such a joy.

EVERYONE was fucking doing it after St. Louis and Seattle.

WAKE UP.

I'm insane and the rest of you are joining me in the asylum this year.

IT'S YOU AND ME LORRAINE. IT'S MEANT TO BE.

http://fusion-industries9.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/movie60.jpg

O.city
09-04-2012, 09:29 PM
EVERYONE was ****ing doing it after St. Louis and Seattle.

WAKE UP.

I'm insane and the rest of you are joining me in the asylum this year.

IT'S YOU AND ME LORRAINE. IT'S MEANT TO BE.

http://fusion-industries9.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/movie60.jpg

It was the preseason. I don't give two shits about it. Said the same thing after the Cardinals game.

Setsuna
09-04-2012, 09:31 PM
Who's making excuses? I said I'm not worried.

It's understandable that you think depth charts are like scientific laws. Your team sucks. On other teams the depth charts don't mean shit.

Did you know that Donald Driver was the WR2 on the Green Bay Packers last year and not Jordy Nelson?

I did know that yes. I thought he still had something left in him, he does not. You're right though. He has no one on the team to get him the ball. Yet Bowe has been beasting for a good part of his career as a Chief with next to nothing around him. It's cool though.

O.city
09-04-2012, 09:32 PM
Never really understood why you are here Setsuna? Are you a Chiefs fan?

QuikSsurfer
09-04-2012, 09:35 PM
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2012/9/4/3292502/kansas-city-chiefs-depth-chart

Baldwin not starting. LMAO

Toribio listed as starter at NT.

Studebaker at OLB.

Jalil Brown is Flowers' backup. :facepalm:

No backups at C, RG or RT. http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/ugh.gif

Kevin Boss starting TE.

lol

ohhhhhh shit

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTFjsFqTUsc7bSodMpgNPgfHMinerkkzBnvJ7veK72sxU1PtkkI&t=1

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 09:48 PM
What?

Dex is clearly the #4 WR, so why you janglin, bo?

NJChiefsFan
09-04-2012, 09:51 PM
I am giving him a chance.

I'm just saying that so far he's dog shit, and him being the #3 WR is not a good thing.

How has he been dog shit so far? As for the flip-flopping, when people that have been here plus people that just got here(me) all come to the same conclusion, perhaps you should consider it as a possibility. Like I said the other night, its really your poor way of arguing more so than your actual points that make you look bad.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 09:54 PM
How has he been dog shit so far?

He has 1 good game.

Pretty simple.

QuikSsurfer
09-04-2012, 09:55 PM
What?

Dex is clearly the #4 WR, so why you janglin, bo?

Just lettings out giggles over Baldwin not starting.
But I'd imagine he'd be #3 for this game, no? Bowe, Breaston, and Dex in the slot. Meh, whatever.

O.city
09-04-2012, 09:55 PM
What do you think about Houston?

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 10:01 PM
What do you think about Houston?

A talented player on an upswing.

O.city
09-04-2012, 10:03 PM
What makes you think that about Houston? He abused shitty teams last year, with shitty qb's.

Setsuna
09-04-2012, 10:06 PM
Never really understood why you are here Setsuna? Are you a Chiefs fan?

Le sigh. No. I'm here. Accept it.

O.city
09-04-2012, 10:07 PM
I'll accept it, but I'm not gonna enjoy it.

NJChiefsFan
09-04-2012, 10:12 PM
He has 1 good game.

Pretty simple.

You don't think there were other circumstances affecting those other games? Like who gets him the ball? You always are on the extremes. Young players have ups and downs. Doesn't mean on the up they are sick or on the down are dog shit. How many games has he started? We don't know nearly enough about him to say what he is yet. Dog shit is just another need to be extreme and dramatic. Neither of us know what he will be.

O.city
09-04-2012, 10:13 PM
Houston has been dogshit save for 3 games.

jspchief
09-04-2012, 10:21 PM
So basically Baldwin lost his spot so Dex could be on the field. Dex wins the slot, so they put Breaston at #2 because Baldwin isn't reliable.

MagicHef
09-04-2012, 10:23 PM
I didn't realize this before, but the Chiefs have zero DL that can rush the passer (effectively), and only one LB that can cover (effectively). Weird.

I guess Pioli only wants very specific things out of each position.

O.city
09-04-2012, 10:25 PM
I didn't realize this before, but the Chiefs have zero DL that can rush the passer (effectively), and only one LB that can cover (effectively). Weird.

I guess Pioli only wants very specific things out of each position.

Houston has shown to be extremely improved in coverage and Poe is a pass rusher.


Go back to sucking off the multi dimensional Demaryius Thomas.

Pasta Giant Meatball
09-04-2012, 10:27 PM
Dex has been the slot guy all offseason even with Bowe's return. He'll be a factor in helping move the chains. Clay's a maroon.

BossChief
09-04-2012, 10:30 PM
I don't recall you ever saying Brown was similar to Carr. You got a link?

I do know that Cordell who you always quote said it a few days ago.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=8552173&postcount=123

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=8552173&highlight=brown#post8552173

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=8395121&postcount=1141

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=8463540&postcount=1863

Want me to post 10 or 15 more?

BossChief
09-04-2012, 10:32 PM
What?

Dex is clearly the #4 WR, so why you janglin, bo?

The slot receiver is the 3rd receiver on the team.

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2012, 10:33 PM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=8552173&postcount=123

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=8552173&highlight=brown#post8552173

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=8395121&postcount=1141

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=8463540&postcount=1863

Want me to post 10 or 15 more?

Cool.

Brown is nowhere near Carrs level yet anyway. He looks lost out there and I never recall seeing that in Carr.

BossChief
09-04-2012, 11:01 PM
Cool.

Brown is nowhere near Carrs level yet anyway. He looks lost out there and I never recall seeing that in Carr.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME????

It's obvious the Chiefs are going to go for a CB this draft. I expect alot of people to complain and thats ok. Leggett sucks and Brandon Carr isn't a #2.
Did you watch the Chargers game? Carr should have gave up 2 td's. He gets burnt alot.

Brandon Carr sucks anyways

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 11:01 PM
What makes you think that about Houston? He abused shitty teams last year, with shitty qb's.

Sorry, just getting to this post now.

I know what you are trying to do here. You are attempting to draw a parallel between Cassel (who only beats shitty teams) and Houston (who had some good games against shitty teams), because I have piledrived Cassel this offseason for that trademark.

The difference is that Houston is a rookie, and Houston was performing at an elite level the second half of last season.

Cassel has never performed at an elite level.

Also, Justin Houston had good games against Pittsburgh and Green Bay. And he clearly has a lot of talent. Unlike Cassel.

Are we done here?

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 11:02 PM
The slot receiver is the 3rd receiver on the team.

And unless you think Jonathan Baldwin (our #3) is going to be the #4, Dexter is currently the #4.

Pioli is a buffoon, but even he is not dumb enough to keep Baldwin sidelined in favor of Dexter.

Pasta Giant Meatball
09-04-2012, 11:03 PM
O spot trolls for fun. I am sure that is one of the occasions.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 11:04 PM
Dex has been the slot guy all offseason even with Bowe's return.

Bowe was not working full time with the #1 offense against Seattle. Clearly he was not ready for that his first game back. That is why Dex got on the field as the #3.

Dex is the #4.

There is no reason for him to be the #3.

He is not better than Breaston or Baldwin.

Logic, use it.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 11:06 PM
So basically Baldwin lost his spot so Dex could be on the field. Dex wins the slot, so they put Breaston at #2 because Baldwin isn't reliable.

It will be highly amusing if Baldwin actually loses his spot to a non-playmaker like Dexter McCluster, just so Cassel can throw 7-yard passes on third and 10. LMAO

I mean, GOD FORBID you attempt to develop this super talented beast.

I will laugh my fucking ass off all year if Baldwin is benched in favor of Dex.

That is not a recipe for any kind of success ever.

It would literally be Pioli cutting off his nose to spite his face.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 11:07 PM
Houston has been dogshit save for 3 games.

The second half of last season he played like a top 10 OLB, according to PFF ratings.

For the season he had a 6.7 rating and 7+ ratings in run defense and pass rush.

I know you are trolling....but you are doing a poor job of it when the facts so completely Hiroshima your argument.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 11:08 PM
You don't think there were other circumstances affecting those other games? Like who gets him the ball? You always are on the extremes. Young players have ups and downs. Doesn't mean on the up they are sick or on the down are dog shit. How many games has he started? We don't know nearly enough about him to say what he is yet. Dog shit is just another need to be extreme and dramatic. Neither of us know what he will be.

I agree that he could improve and be a good player.

At this point in time he is not and we should recognize that.

O.city
09-04-2012, 11:09 PM
Look at the teams he had these great games against.


The Bears, with a shitty awful oline. Packers, with a shitty awful oline and no run game. Steelers, with a banged up oline and no run game. The Broncos, with Tim Tebow, enough said.

What did he do against he Raiders in a big game last year? Don't remember his name being called.

Pasta Giant Meatball
09-04-2012, 11:11 PM
You aren't fooling anybody....let the homer out.

O.city
09-04-2012, 11:13 PM
Sorry, just getting to this post now.

I know what you are trying to do here. You are attempting to draw a parallel between Cassel (who only beats shitty teams) and Houston (who had some good games against shitty teams), because I have piledrived Cassel this offseason for that trademark.

The difference is that Houston is a rookie, and Houston was performing at an elite level the second half of last season.

Cassel has never performed at an elite level.

Also, Justin Houston had good games against Pittsburgh and Green Bay. And he clearly has a lot of talent. Unlike Cassel.

Are we done here?

So Houston was Elite against shitty teams?

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 11:14 PM
Look at the teams he had these great games against.


The Bears, with a shitty awful oline. Packers, with a shitty awful oline and no run game. Steelers, with a banged up oline and no run game. The Broncos, with Tim Tebow, enough said.

What did he do against he Raiders in a big game last year? Don't remember his name being called.

He had a good PFF rating in that game, too.

I know you are trolling, and doing so poorly, but Justin Houston had a good rookie season and played very well in the second half of the season.

He needs to pick it up from there, but he's shown us a lot more than Jon Baldween. It's not up for debate.

Just Passin' By
09-04-2012, 11:15 PM
In this era of specialization and situational substitutions, are people here really pretending that the depth chart is proof of anything other than (maybe) who plays the first snap of the game?

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 11:15 PM
So Houston was Elite against shitty teams?

He had good games against good teams.

Saccopoo
09-04-2012, 11:17 PM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=8552173&postcount=123

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=8552173&highlight=brown#post8552173

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=8395121&postcount=1141

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=8463540&postcount=1863

Want me to post 10 or 15 more?

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/1009979/katie-kox-o.gif

mcaj22
09-04-2012, 11:18 PM
wait O.City you're just being sarcastic right/screwing around, right? There is no way you can have those Houston arguments with the way you defend and stand in the corner of Jalil Brown lol

Pasta Giant Meatball
09-04-2012, 11:20 PM
TrololO city

O.city
09-04-2012, 11:21 PM
Houston had good games against teams with awful rts and rbs

Pasta Giant Meatball
09-04-2012, 11:23 PM
Imagine if he played the NFC West :eek:

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 11:34 PM
Houston had good games against teams with awful rts and rbs

OK.

Do you have a point?

MagicHef
09-04-2012, 11:49 PM
Houston has shown to be extremely improved in coverage and Poe is a pass rusher.


Go back to sucking off the multi dimensional Demaryius Thomas.

According to PFF, Houston was literally the worst player on the Chiefs in coverage last year.

Yes, worse than Belcher.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 11:53 PM
He's a 270 pound bitch wrecking juggernaut OLB.

He's not meant to be in coverage that much.

MagicHef
09-04-2012, 11:57 PM
He's a 270 pound bitch wrecking juggernaut OLB.

He's not meant to be in coverage that much.

Yes, I know. I just find it interesting that there are no DL that can rush the passer, and only one LB that can cover. There are only 3 guys that could be described as versatile on the Chiefs' D: DJ, Flowers and Berry.

Count Alex's Losses
09-04-2012, 11:59 PM
Yes, I know. I just find it interesting that there are no DL that can rush the passer, and only one LB that can cover. There are only 3 guys that could be described as versatile on the Chiefs' D: DJ, Flowers and Berry.

http://i.imgur.com/tpMlx.jpg

mcaj22
09-05-2012, 12:01 AM
cory greenwood can cover!

keep doubting cory ****ing greenwood!

and Travis Daniels is also versatile! Went from being our best depth cover CB to apparently 2nd string FS, so that means if Lewis is out he will start at FS? lol

Iowanian
09-05-2012, 12:04 AM
I'm just glad the Chiefs are bringing back the wishbone and the wing t offense.


Twins right 41 trap and 48 reverse ftw!

aturnis
09-05-2012, 12:38 AM
Houston has shown to be extremely improved in coverage and Poe is a pass rusher.


Go back to sucking off the multi dimensional Demaryius Thomas.

I think he faired pretty well in coverage for a rookie who dropped into coverage more than any other OLB in the league...

boogblaster
09-05-2012, 12:44 AM
and away we go ...

aturnis
09-05-2012, 12:46 AM
Look at the teams he had these great games against.


The Bears, with a shitty awful oline. Packers, with a shitty awful oline and no run game. Steelers, with a banged up oline and no run game. The Broncos, with Tim Tebow, enough said.

What did he do against he Raiders in a big game last year? Don't remember his name being called.

Houston spent the bulk majority of his time playing the run and dropping in coverage early last year. He did a damn good job vs. the run also. When he was finally allowed to rush the passer on a consistent basis, he delivered.

MagicHef
09-05-2012, 12:52 AM
I think he faired pretty well in coverage for a rookie who dropped into coverage more than any other OLB in the league...

Seriously, what?

Out of the 61 people who played at 3-4 OLB last season, Houston ranked right at #61 in coverage. Also, Clark Haggans, Calvin Pace, Anthony Spencer, and Ahmad Brooks all were in coverage more than Houston. They are all 3-4 OLBs. There are probably more, I stopped looking after about 30 seconds.

BossChief
09-05-2012, 01:00 AM
The Falcons have lost their first road game every year going back to 2006.

Count Alex's Losses
09-05-2012, 01:04 AM
The Falcons have lost their first road game every year going back to 2006.

They're due.

Ace Gunner
09-05-2012, 01:05 AM
The Falcons have lost their first road game every year going back to 2006.

Ya, but they never opened the season versus the Chiefs:D

Honestly, if the Chiefs can't play defense, they won't win an offensive shootout.

Count Alex's Losses
09-05-2012, 01:12 AM
Hey look, i can twist stats, too!

Matt Ryan's road record against the AFC: 7-3

Losses: PIT, NE, Houston

Chiefs: Not those teams

BossChief
09-05-2012, 01:14 AM
Hey look, i can twist stats, too!

Matt Ryan's road record against the AFC: 7-3

Losses: PIT, NE, Houston

Chiefs: Not those teams

Dont you get tired of acting soooo hopeless all the time?

How are you gonna take it if/when we win and guys like Dexter McCluster play well?

Count Alex's Losses
09-05-2012, 01:16 AM
Dex is not doing shit against Dunta Robinson.

That is a horrible matchup for him.

I bet Dunta sticks to Dex's non-WR buttocks like glue and reads Cassel like a book and takes it back to the house.

BossChief
09-05-2012, 01:18 AM
Dex is not doing shit against Dunta Robinson.

That is a horrible matchup for him.

I bet Dunta sticks to Dex's non-WR buttocks like glue and reads Cassel like a book and takes it back to the house.

How can this be?

Dunta Robinson is gonna be covering our #4 receiver?

Dude fell the fuck off, and FAST.

Count Alex's Losses
09-05-2012, 01:21 AM
How can this be?

Dunta Robinson is gonna be covering our #4 receiver?

Dude fell the fuck off, and FAST.

Dunta covers the slot when Atlanta goes nickel. You are not gonna find a guy playing a better nickel than Dunta Robinson in this league.

If Dex is on the field I would imagine Dunta would be assigned to him.

They are not gonna put Dunta on Baldwin.

I would not be surprised if one of Atlanta's corners goes Delta O'Neal on Cassel this weekend.

Chocolate Hog
09-05-2012, 01:44 AM
Dunta Robinson is starting

BossChief
09-05-2012, 01:47 AM
The Falcons have NEVER won at Arrowhead.

philfree
09-05-2012, 02:09 AM
The Falcons have NEVER won at Arrowhead.

So we should all call our bookie. Seriously!

Schottenheimer
09-05-2012, 02:30 AM
Talk about crazy overreactions to a depth chart! Calm down people!

NJChiefsFan
09-05-2012, 02:59 AM
The Falcons have NEVER won at Arrowhead.

Stats like this don't mean anything to me. There are certain stats that transcend different era's of players. Red Sox not winning the World Series, Cubs, even perhaps Chiefs playoff streak are a few. Reason they continue is because they live in the fanbase and the media, and the players actually know about/feel the pressure of these problems.

When you are looking at a stat like ATL has never won in Arrowhead, is that going to even be a twinkle in their minds? How is the Falcons small history of losing at Arrowhead going to affect their game? The outdoors would be the only tangible factor IMO.

the Talking Can
09-05-2012, 05:44 AM
In this era of specialization and situational substitutions, are people here really pretending that the depth chart is proof of anything other than (maybe) who plays the first snap of the game?

hey, Cassel's throat gagger shows up to say something no one cares about...

penguinz
09-05-2012, 08:14 AM
NFL.com has Baldwin as the #2.

http://i.imgur.com/1t8u8.png

scho63
09-05-2012, 08:56 AM
Sounds more like a "lack of depth" chart to me

Chiefnj2
09-05-2012, 10:47 AM
http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/depth-chart.html

Baldwin behind Breaston FWIW.

mcaj22
09-05-2012, 10:54 AM
i love how it just lists

RB
RB

because we have 475 of them on the roster

Pasta Giant Meatball
09-05-2012, 11:01 AM
Sounds more like a "lack of depth" chart to me

Sounds like the NFL as a whole to me. I must be missing all these teams knee deep in reserve pro bowlers.

Why do you think there are 6 plus different playoff teams EVERY year from the year before?

Sorter
09-05-2012, 11:49 AM
Dunta covers the slot when Atlanta goes nickel. You are not gonna find a guy playing a better nickel than Dunta Robinson in this league.



http://i56.tinypic.com/2vrvny8.jpg

Fish
09-05-2012, 11:58 AM
Why the fuck is Jake O'Connell still around?

penguinz
09-05-2012, 11:59 AM
http://www.kcchiefs.com/team/depth-chart.html

Baldwin behind Breaston FWIW.If you want to go by that chart then it looks like Breaston is the #1 WR and Bowe is #2.

Sofa King
09-05-2012, 12:01 PM
Why the **** is Jake O'Connell still around?

Pioli hates us.

Great Expectations
09-05-2012, 12:26 PM
BossChief also argued with me all summer that Tony Moeaki was a first round value Pioli hit as well over guys like Jimmy Graham and Aaron Hernandez.

and he's 2nd string.

I don't think anyone takes him too seriously, especially when dealing with an Iowa player.

That said, we will run a ton of two TE sets with both Moeaki and Boss in the game at the same time.