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gblowfish
09-09-2012, 06:36 PM
Ten Things About Today's Game

10. After suffering the Todd Haley/Tyler Palko horror show of October through December last year, my general hope for this year was this: The defense that carried the team in the last month last season hopefully would carry momentum into this year. The offense that was crippled by injuries and the subsequent stubborn "Screw Pioli pissing contest" by Haley would get fixed with a new OC. Haley got whacked, and we got those three offense components back this year healthy, and an upgrade in the backfield with Hillis replacing Thomas Jones. A big surprise out of training camp was to carry five running backs on the 53. The plan seems to be play ball control football, pound the ground, mix with possession type passing, chew clock and play defense. We've seen it work before. So I was guardedly optimistic. My wife and brother in law got field passes for pre-game warm ups, and that's cool. The new plastic credit card "tickets" worked well, security had metal detectors, and passed people inside much quicker than years past. We saw the Stealth Bomber fly over for the National Anthem. That's always awesome,and the singer actually knew all the words to the anthem and didn't muck it up. So much for small victories. If you remember last season's home opener, the Chiefs came out and laid an giant red and gold egg against Buffalo. They fumbled the opening kickoff, then Berry got hurt, then Haley went all Daffy Duck with his play calling, then they got behind, then they got blown out. Today was almost as bad an opener as last year. This year, we were in it for a half before getting totally embarrased. There's no home excuse when you have perfect weather, a full house and a great atmosphere. But just like last year, the fans ended up getting a swift kick in the red and gold nads.

9. In the four phases, KC matched up with Atlanta for one half in only one phase: Offense. The offense looked reasonably good the first half with a good mix of run and pass, Cassel spread the ball around, didn't turn the ball over, made good throws on third down, didn't throw short on third down except for one time. That was all good. Hillis and Charles had big runs for good yardage. You can look at the game stats (if you didn't watch the game) and things look somewhat reasonable: Chiefs won time of possession by four minutes, had more first downs, and decent balance in yards passing vs. yards rushing. Charles was 13 yards short of a 100 yard game, and the Chiefs only punted one time. That all sounds pretty good, so what happened? Halftime happened, then turnovers happened. This game became a total mis-match in the third quarter because of the other three phases: Defense, Special Teams and Coaching.

8. This was the worst defensive performance I can remember in terms of lack of pass rush and lack of pass coverage since the Colts playoff game in the Vermeil era. Chiefs defense never forced a punt in that game, and today we only forced one punt, and that was in fourth quarter garbage time. How can our second line defensive backs be so bad? Elam, Reeves and Daniels all looked totally lost out there. Julio Jones just owned the secondary. There was no pass rush up front from our first round pick defensive ends. None. Dorsey and Jackson were both useless. They were credited today for five tackles between them, but I can't for the life of me remember a single impact play that either were involved in. Studebaker for Hali was a no show. Only decent pass rush was on one second quarter play by Houston, and that was his only credited tackle all day long. Berry only had two tackles today. The only defensive player who looked like he came to play was DJ. He led the team with seven tackles, and covered Gonzalez most of the afternoon. This was a pitiful effort in third down defense. Tamba Hali should have to pay every Chiefs fan the cost of a game ticket. He could have made all the difference on third down. Ryan ate this defense alive on third down because he had time, and lots of it. If this trend doesn't improve in a hurry, and I mean more than just Flowers coming back, teams are going to pass for 300 a game on us every week. Frankly, I'm worried.

7. Special teams were poor. The game momentum totally changed when Succop doinked a 41-yard field goal attempt in the third quarter. First of all, Chiefs have a make-able third and three and Cassel throws a ball right into Weatherspoon, who knocks it down. Then, they trot out Succop for a 41-yarder that would have tied the game back up 20-20 with nine minutes left in the third. Colquitt can't figure out where to spot the ball, then when he figures it out, play clock is running down so they hurry the snap, ball slices to the right and doinks off the right upright. Plenty of leg, but the kick was rushed. Everything goes to shit from there. Plus the Chiefs give up a 77-yard kick return in the first half. And the icing on the special teams cake, two rookies, Draughn and Stephenson, start fighting after the play on a fourth quarter kickoff with the team down 40-17. Great poise. Scoreboard, clowns, scoreboard.

6. Matt Cassel: I bet a friend of mine that the Duke of Dink would throw short on third down at least three times during the game. I think I may have nailed it. Actually, Cassel played very well in the first half and I'll give him credit for that. It was perhaps one of his best halves of football in the last two years. Seven different guys caught balls. His pass to Boss for a TD was well done. Nice throw and catch on that one. The problem with Cassel is, once he gets behind, he will never, ever EVER bring you back. He is a Mr. Ball Control, protect a lead kind of guy. He can't put the team on his back and will them to win. He just doesn't have the chops or talent to do it. Worst of all, Cassel is prone to turnovers and sacks when he gets behind because he has happy feet and forces plays. He makes things much worse.

5. Happy feet and forcing plays: Follow along with me for a minute: If you look a the third quarter after the doinked field goal, Ryan (who CAN put a team on his back) marches right down the field and scores the TD himself on a QB draw. That's a ten point swing in about four minutes. So now Cassel is down by ten instead of three. Cassel gets the ball back, and gets into a 3rd and 15. Something happened at the line, because Fat Albert got a real slow jump off the center snap. Abraham beats Fat Albert like a drum, gets to Cassel, and forces a fumble on the KC 8 yard line. One play later, Gonzalez TD, now you're down by 17. Cassel gets the ball back, gets one first down on a pass to McCluster, then gets a third and nine, gets happy feet in the pocket, forces a pass into a tightly covered Moeaki, ball goes off Moeaki's hands to William Moore for the second turnover. Atlanta kicks a field goal. Now you're down by 20 into the fourth quarter and the run is getting stuffed as Atlanta adjusts. Now here's comes the stupidest play of the game:

4. Cassel scrambles and for whatever reason, slides early and slides one yard short of a first down. So it's third and one. Then they call time out to talk about it. Instead of putting your best playmakers on the field: Bowe, Breaston, McCluster or Charles, they run the double tight end set out there with Hillis and Eachus....EACHUS for Chrissakes in the backfield. OK, so pound the ball and get the first down. Instead, they run a fake to Eachus, who then fails to pick up a blitzing William Moore, who gets in Cassel's grill, and forces a pass cross field at a triple covered Moeaki, which is picked off for the third straight turnover. Falcons kick another field goal, and now it's 40-17. and the butt kicking is complete. Cassel looks like a whipped puppy on the sidelines. Sad, really.
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3. The final aspect I haven't mentioned is coaching. This was a classic example of one team making halftime adjustments, and one team not having a clue what adjustments to make. Atlanta came out in the third quarter and shut down the run completely. Once they forced the Cassel fumble, they struck with points, and never looked back. They adjusted to what KC has been doing the first half, and KC had no clue how to stop Atlanta all day long. The only forced punt Atlanta had was with about three minutes left. The last KC TD was garbage time. Watch the Atlanta secondary when Droughn scores with five seconds left. They didn't even want to tackle him. Why risk an injury? Romeo looked out classed and clueless. He better figure something out soon or he'll be wondering if his office phone is tapped. And why not play Quinn in the last five minutes of the fourth quarter and get him some real game reps? Why are guys like Charles still out there when the game is out of hand? I don't get it. Why make a bad game day worse by risking injuries in an out of reach game?

2. One sideline thing I noticed is that the Chiefs have added these secret service looking, Matrix-CIA types behind the bench area. They have bad suits with brown shoes, dark sunglasses, earpieces, and stood around giving the fans the stink eye in the fourth quarter when the game had gone south. They also were running Romeo off the field after the game like he was in the witness protection program. I guess they want to make sure NOBODY can get near him once the game is over and whisk him away to the safety of the press conference room. I took a picture of them in the fourth quarter. The guy in the green suit kept eyeballing me.
http://i48.tinypic.com/34yxpw5.gif

1. It's a bit of a broken record, and hard to find new things to say. It's hard to be optimistic when so far this looks like same old crap in a brand new box. Except this year the injuries are on defensive side instead of the offense side, and people are going to pass us to death until we can stop it. Meanwhile, this year we're way under the salary cap....again. Hey Scott, hey Clark, thanks for the nifty jersey. I'll tell you what, though. I would have been much happier to have seen the jersey money spent on keeping Brandon Carr. I think we could really use him about now.

cdcox
09-09-2012, 06:46 PM
Two great photos that perfectly summarize the Pioli regime.

Tuckdaddy
09-09-2012, 06:51 PM
Well said. Nailed Matt perfectly. He can't bring a team or lift it when the game is on the line. In short, he is not good enough to beat good defenses and we will never never ever win in the playoff with him at QB. Clark either doesn't care or is just following Scott blindly not to see this. There is zero reason not to play Quinn. If Matt has another half like that next week we should see Quinn.

TrickyNicky
09-09-2012, 06:53 PM
I'm sure your seats are on the 'list' of known troublemakers after Haley flipped you the bird.

Now pick up that hot dog wrapper before something bad happens.

Der Flöprer
09-09-2012, 06:53 PM
Two great photos that perfectly summarize the Pioli regime.

Absolutely. That picture of Cassel speaks VOLUMES.

petegz28
09-09-2012, 06:53 PM
Problem with #6. Cassel brought us back from behind 3 times and would have been 4 had Succop made the kick

stonedstooge
09-09-2012, 06:55 PM
Clark will spend money on security but not a new quarterback. FML

gblowfish
09-09-2012, 06:57 PM
I'm sure your seats are on the 'list' of known troublemakers after Haley flipped you the bird.
ALLEGEDLY flipped the bird. He said he "may have waved."
It's all good, he's in Pittsburgh where they understand non-verbal communication.

T-post Tom
09-09-2012, 06:57 PM
Great post, as usual.

milkman
09-09-2012, 06:58 PM
Problem with #6. Cassel brought us back from behind 3 times and would have been 4 had Succop made the kick

I think that we are tlking about 10-14 point deficits.

3-7 points seem still managable to Cassel, it seems.

More than that and he starts pressing.

milkman
09-09-2012, 07:01 PM
Point #5, that pass to Moeaki was a well thrown ball, a pass that some of us have said that Cassel needs to be willing to make.

That pass was exactly where it needed to be, and Moeaki has to make that catch.

RINGLEADER
09-09-2012, 07:03 PM
Absolutely. That picture of Cassel speaks VOLUMES.

Was that taken after he threw the ball at the guy's ankle?

tredadda
09-09-2012, 07:04 PM
Ten Things About Today's Game

10. After suffering the Todd Haley/Tyler Palko horror show of October through December last year, my general hope for this year was this: The defense that carried the team in the last month last season hopefully would carry momentum into this year. The offense that was crippled by injuries and the subsequent stubborn "Screw Pioli pissing contest" by Haley would get fixed with a new OC. Haley got whacked, and we got those three offense components back this year healthy, and an upgrade in the backfield with Hillis replacing Thomas Jones. A big surprise out of training camp was to carry five running backs on the 53. The plan seems to be play ball control football, pound the ground, mix with possession type passing, chew clock and play defense. We've seen it work before. So I was guardedly optimistic. My wife and brother in law got field passes for pre-game warm ups, and that's cool. The new plastic credit card "tickets" worked well, security had metal detectors, and passed people inside much quicker than years past. We saw the Stealth Bomber fly over for the National Anthem. That's always awesome,and the singer actually knew all the words to the anthem and didn't muck it up. So much for small victories. If you remember last season's home opener, the Chiefs came out and laid an giant red and gold egg against Buffalo. They fumbled the opening kickoff, then Berry got hurt, then Haley went all Daffy Duck with his play calling, then they got behind, then they got blown out. Today was almost as bad an opener as last year. This year, we were in it for a half before getting totally embarrased. There's no home excuse when you have perfect weather, a full house and a great atmosphere. But just like last year, the fans ended up getting a swift kick in the red and gold nads.

9. In the four phases, KC matched up with Atlanta for one half in only one phase: Offense. The offense looked reasonably good the first half with a good mix of run and pass, Cassel spread the ball around, didn't turn the ball over, made good throws on third down, didn't throw short on third down except for one time. That was all good. Hillis and Charles had big runs for good yardage. You can look at the game stats (if you didn't watch the game) and things look somewhat reasonable: Chiefs won time of possession by four minutes, had more first downs, and decent balance in yards passing vs. yards rushing. Charles was 13 yards short of a 100 yard game, and the Chiefs only punted one time. That all sounds pretty good, so what happened? Halftime happened, then turnovers happened. This game became a total mis-match in the third quarter because of the other three phases: Defense, Special Teams and Coaching.

8. This was the worst defensive performance I can remember in terms of lack of pass rush and lack of pass coverage since the Colts playoff game in the Vermeil era. Chiefs defense never forced a punt in that game, and today we only forced one punt, and that was in fourth quarter garbage time. How can our second line defensive backs be so bad? Elam, Reeves and Daniels all looked totally lost out there. Julio Jones just owned the secondary. There was no pass rush up front from our first round pick defensive ends. None. Dorsey and Jackson were both useless. They were credited today for five tackles between them, but I can't for the life of me remember a single impact play that either were involved in. Studebaker for Hali was a no show. Only decent pass rush was on one second quarter play by Houston, and that was his only credited tackle all day long. Berry only had two tackles today. The only defensive player who looked like he came to play was DJ. He led the team with seven tackles, and covered Gonzalez most of the afternoon. This was a pitiful effort in third down defense. Tamba Hali should have to pay every Chiefs fan the cost of a game ticket. He could have made all the difference on third down. Ryan ate this defense alive on third down because he had time, and lots of it. If this trend doesn't improve in a hurry, and I mean more than just Flowers coming back, teams are going to pass for 300 a game on us every week. Frankly, I'm worried.

7. Special teams were poor. The game momentum totally changed when Succop doinked a 41-yard field goal attempt in the third quarter. First of all, Chiefs have a make-able third and three and Cassel throws a ball right into Weatherspoon, who knocks it down. Then, they trot out Succop for a 41-yarder that would have tied the game back up 20-20 with nine minutes left in the third. Colquitt can't figure out where to spot the ball, then when he figures it out, play clock is running down so they hurry the snap, ball slices to the right and doinks off the right upright. Plenty of leg, but the kick was rushed. Everything goes to shit from there. Plus the Chiefs give up a 77-yard kick return in the first half. And the icing on the special teams cake, two rookies, Draughn and Stephenson, start fighting after the play on a fourth quarter kickoff with the team down 40-17. Great poise. Scoreboard, clowns, scoreboard.

6. Matt Cassel: I bet a friend of mine that the Duke of Dink would throw short on third down at least three times during the game. I think I may have nailed it. Actually, Cassel played very well in the first half and I'll give him credit for that. It was perhaps one of his best halves of football in the last two years. Seven different guys caught balls. His pass to Boss for a TD was well done. Nice throw and catch on that one. The problem with Cassel is, once he gets behind, he will never, ever EVER bring you back. He is a Mr. Ball Control, protect a lead kind of guy. He can't put the team on his back and will them to win. He just doesn't have the chops or talent to do it. Worst of all, Cassel is prone to turnovers and sacks when he gets behind because he has happy feet and forces plays. He makes things much worse.

5. Happy feet and forcing plays: Follow along with me for a minute: If you look a the third quarter after the doinked field goal, Ryan (who CAN put a team on his back) marches right down the field and scores the TD himself on a QB draw. That's a ten point swing in about four minutes. So now Cassel is down by ten instead of three. Cassel gets the ball back, and gets into a 3rd and 15. Something happened at the line, because Fat Albert got a real slow jump off the center snap. Abraham beats Fat Albert like a drum, gets to Cassel, and forces a fumble on the KC 8 yard line. One play later, Gonzalez TD, now you're down by 17. Cassel gets the ball back, gets one first down on a pass to McCluster, then gets a third and nine, gets happy feet in the pocket, forces a pass into a tightly covered Moeaki, ball goes off Moeaki's hands to William Moore for the second turnover. Atlanta kicks a field goal. Now you're down by 20 into the fourth quarter and the run is getting stuffed as Atlanta adjusts. Now here's comes the stupidest play of the game:

4. Cassel scrambles and for whatever reason, slides early and slides one yard short of a first down. So it's third and one. Then they call time out to talk about it. Instead of putting your best playmakers on the field: Bowe, Breaston, McCluster or Charles, they run the double tight end set out there with Hillis and Eachus....EACHUS for Chrissakes in the backfield. OK, so pound the ball and get the first down. Instead, they run a fake to Eachus, who then fails to pick up a blitzing William Moore, who gets in Cassel's grill, and forces a pass cross field at a triple covered Moeaki, which is picked off for the third straight turnover. Falcons kick another field goal, and now it's 40-17. and the butt kicking is complete. Cassel looks like a whipped puppy on the sidelines. Sad, really.
http://i46.tinypic.com/1j6x6e.gif

3. The final aspect I haven't mentioned is coaching. This was a classic example of one team making halftime adjustments, and one team not having a clue what adjustments to make. Atlanta came out in the third quarter and shut down the run completely. Once they forced the Cassel fumble, they struck with points, and never looked back. They adjusted to what KC has been doing the first half, and KC had no clue how to stop Atlanta all day long. The only forced punt Atlanta had was with about three minutes left. The last KC TD was garbage time. Watch the Atlanta secondary when Droughn scores with five seconds left. They didn't even want to tackle him. Why risk an injury? Romeo looked out classed and clueless. He better figure something out soon or he'll be wondering if his office phone is tapped. And why not play Quinn in the last five minutes of the fourth quarter and get him some real game reps? Why are guys like Charles still out there when the game is out of hand? I don't get it. Why make a bad game day worse by risking injuries in an out of reach game?

2. One sideline thing I noticed is that the Chiefs have added these secret service looking, Matrix-CIA types behind the bench area. They have bad suits with brown shoes, dark sunglasses, earpieces, and stood around giving the fans the stink eye in the fourth quarter when the game had gone south. They also were running Romeo off the field after the game like he was in the witness protection program. I guess they want to make sure NOBODY can get near him once the game is over and whisk him away to the safety of the press conference room. I took a picture of them in the fourth quarter. The guy in the green suit kept eyeballing me.
http://i48.tinypic.com/34yxpw5.gif

1. It's a bit of a broken record, and hard to find new things to say. It's hard to be optimistic when so far this looks like same old crap in a brand new box. Except this year the injuries are on defensive side instead of the offense side, and people are going to pass us to death until we can stop it. Meanwhile, this year we're way under the salary cap....again. Hey Scott, hey Clark, thanks for the nifty jersey. I'll tell you what, though. I would have been much happier to have seen the jersey money spent on keeping Brandon Carr. I think we could really use him about now.

Great evaluation as always.

RINGLEADER
09-09-2012, 07:05 PM
I think that we are tlking about 10-14 point deficits.

3-7 points seem still managable to Cassel, it seems.

More than that and he starts pressing.

This.

Has Cassel ever won a game on a last minute drive besides playing against the winless Colts last year?

Deberg_1990
09-09-2012, 07:06 PM
Hahaha...Piolis secrect service agents are going to be a running joke all season. ROFL

milkman
09-09-2012, 07:06 PM
Great evaluation as always.

Only a true dumbass needs to quote the OP to make this post.

Good job, dumbass.

GloryDayz
09-09-2012, 07:06 PM
I stopped reading after "After suffering the Todd Haley/Tyler Palko horror show".... You get an A+

LOL, not really...I read it all. Great summary!

Munson
09-09-2012, 07:07 PM
The Secret Service looking guys are Pioli's candy wrapper patrol. When it comes to littering, the Don doesn't f*** around.

And I agree that the pass rush was shit, and I blame it on Pioli. Nobody on this D can consistently get after the QB other than Tamba. Houston has shown potential, but he is still unproven.

Bowser
09-09-2012, 07:08 PM
Clark will spend money on security but not a new quarterback. FML

Seriously, what in the actual fuck is with that?

tk13
09-09-2012, 07:12 PM
Carr isn't going to make a difference if you let the QB cook dinner in the pocket. I don't care how many threads people make about it. Now it is absolutely Pioli's job to acquire depth across the board, and I don't think he's ever done a great job at it. We've always struggled to find backup DB's. But everyone's going to point at the Carr thing and that's just not true. The Patriots win games playing WR's at CB. Cornerbacks do not win championships. They just do not, I don't care how many times people say it. You have to rush the passer. Especially in today's NFL. The 2.6 times we actually did it today, the defense had success.

I think the biggest point that's spot on, and everyone has missed because people turn into foaming rabid dogs about Cassel: we got completely outcoached in the 2nd half. Mike Nolan put the smack down on Daboll. Not only did Cassel struggle in the 2nd half, but they completely shut down our running attack for 15-20 minutes of game time. Everyone knows Cassel is average, but our running attack is supposed to be great, and they shut it down. It's completely being overlooked though... and that's not good.

jjjayb
09-09-2012, 07:12 PM
Looking at the Secret Service Agent looking guys, I'm not so sure Haley's phones weren't bugged.

HonestChieffan
09-09-2012, 07:14 PM
Its hard work to find a positive from today other than I knew when I got home I could have a glass of wine and start looking forward to saving my season ticket money for years to come. Its sort of my "under the cap" cash from now on.

Agent V
09-09-2012, 07:14 PM
I counted at least five of those promotional STH jerseys that were fucked up. One was a Dawson jersey with the shoulder numbers flipped to 61 like the Shields one that was posted here a few days ago. Others were oddly spaced and some were off-center. There was an "11" jersey with the numbers at least three inches off-center.

tk13
09-09-2012, 07:15 PM
Looking at the Secret Service Agent looking guys, I'm not so sure Haley's phones weren't bugged.

All those season ticket holder jerseys? You thought they were a nice gift. They're actually bugged. Pioli is watching all of you.

Bowser
09-09-2012, 07:15 PM
Looking at the Secret Service Agent looking guys, I'm not so sure Haley's phones weren't bugged.

Heh, no shit.

TrickyNicky
09-09-2012, 07:16 PM
Is Allen Bailey hurt or something? Is there a reason they activated Pitoitua over him?

Frankie
09-09-2012, 07:19 PM
Problem with #6. Cassel brought us back from behind 3 times and would have been 4 had Succop made the kick

"Coming from behind," in NFL jargon, means more than a TD behind.

stonedstooge
09-09-2012, 07:21 PM
Seriously, what in the actual **** is with that?

Probably charging it off to the taxpayers

tredadda
09-09-2012, 07:26 PM
Only a true dumbass needs to quote the OP to make this post.

Good job, dumbass.

Awwwww how sweet

tk13
09-09-2012, 07:27 PM
In fact, Blowfish is probably being electroshocked right now for making this post. Pioli will assimilate the masses. By the end of the season he'll be making new 10 Things posts.

10. We lost, but it sure was fun out there today!

9. Sure Matt Cassel threw 4 INT, but it's a process. He's a Pro Bowl QB! He will take us to the promised land.

8. Cassel can't throw it and catch it too. Sure Bowe caught two one handed TD's but he dropped a 1st and 10 pass in the first quarter. That probably killed a drive that would've changed the game!

7. Romeo did a great job. Belichick is nothing without him. You saw why today.

6. Dorsey and Jackson probably need about 6 more years, but they will get there. Defensive linemen take a while.

5. Peyton Hillis did a great job today. His 2 yards a carry opened it up for Charles.

4. Brandon Carr, we don't really need him. In fact this defense probably would've been burned even worse with him out there today.

3. To the average fan it looked like we didn't make any adjustments, but to be fair the average fan is stupid. Pioli is the 17 time executive of the year, and he knows more than you. He also once had 11 holes in one in a single round of golf.

2. I love that Clark really cares about the fans more than any other owner. You can really see it on the field. I actually signed a 50 year contract for season tickets today. As long as he's our owner, it is OUR TIME.

1. Matt Cassel is the answer. I know you see some of these other teams trying to start rookies and all that... but look, they're inexperienced. They don't have the wisdom and experience that Cassel does. Look at David Carr or Tim Couch. Teams that take risks don't win games. Remember, Pioli is executive of the year. He wouldn't lie to us. Looking forward to another season of Chiefs football!

Garcia Bronco
09-09-2012, 07:28 PM
Cassel looked like an all-pro for a half of football. I've never seen him look that good as a Chief.

DeezNutz
09-09-2012, 07:31 PM
Hmm...not sure what go you were at, Mr. Blowfish, since CP has assured us that Cassel graded out perfectly.

Defense and coaching were atrocious, though, no doubt.

tredadda
09-09-2012, 07:31 PM
Cassel looked like an all-pro for a half of football. I've never seen him look that good as a Chief.

Too bad there are two halves in football.

bsp4444
09-09-2012, 07:31 PM
Great evaluation as always.

I'm so glad you felt it necessary to quote the entire OP.

boogblaster
09-09-2012, 07:45 PM
perfect ... could be a long year ... again .....

BillSelfsTrophycase
09-09-2012, 07:47 PM
Only a true dumbass needs to quote the OP to make this post.

Good job, dumbass.


LMAO

gblowfish
09-09-2012, 07:59 PM
In fact, Blowfish is probably being electroshocked right now for making this post. Pioli will assimilate the masses.

I thought I felt this kind of tingly sensation on my neck and ears tonight, and I got worried.

But its just a little sunburn.

I hope...

Discuss Thrower
09-09-2012, 08:07 PM
I think is one game will encapsulate this season.. Outmatched by good teams, running ragged on defense, unable to come back from 2+ possessions down...

Planetman
09-09-2012, 08:09 PM
The guy in the green suit kept eyeballing me.
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Mr. Anderson. It seems that you've been living two lives. One life, you're Thomas A. Anderson, program writer for a respectable software company. You have a social security number, pay your taxes, and you, ... help your landlady carry out her garbage. The other life is lived on an internet message board, where you go by the alias "gblowfish" and are guilty of virtually every computer crime we have a law for. One of these lives has a future, and one of them does not.

MahiMike
09-09-2012, 08:10 PM
Was that taken after he threw the ball at the guy's ankle?

Yeah, that was the play where I said, "time to suck for Luck". Ok, so the play is busted. There's nobody in his face and he has tons of time. Instead of improvising, he acts like a little girl.

O.city
09-09-2012, 08:15 PM
The throw in the dirt, was a wr screen that was blown up. If he throws it down the field, it's a penalty.



I'm no Cassel fan at all, but we seem to have some sort of Witch hunt over the guy today. He played extremely well in the first half, kept the Falcons off balance, and threw the ball with velocity and accuracy. Came out in the second half, marched us right down the field, ran out of downs and we missed a field goal. After the Falcons marched down the field next, it was pretty much the end.


We were pretty good against the run today, we were bad against he pass without our best pass rusher, corner, free safety, and sub pass rusher. We didn't blitz much at all, trying to protect our banged up secondary.

Rain Man
09-09-2012, 08:25 PM
Was that taken after he threw the ball at the guy's ankle?

It was just like The Longest Yard if Burt Reynolds was an inaccurate passer.

KCtotheSB
09-09-2012, 08:26 PM
Let me see this team with all of its defensive cogs in place before I start calling for heads. As for Cassel, all you can hope for is that he plays strong in Buffalo for two halves, rather than one. You're stuck with him, so you may as well try to accentuate the positive.

Rain Man
09-09-2012, 08:27 PM
Do other teams play their third-stringers as much as we do? It's odd to me to see people like Draughn and Copper and such playing in critical situations. It's almost as if Clark knows he'll have to pay bonuses based on snaps, so he tells the coaches to pull the starters.

2bikemike
09-09-2012, 08:37 PM
Thank Gblowfish I always look forward to your take on the game, since I don't have the opportunity to watch the game myself far too often.

Second half adjustment were mentioned. For the life of me I don't understand this problem. It seem like its year end and year out a problem for the Chiefs no matter who is coaching. It is my perception that every team we play does a better job of making adjustments.

Xanathol
09-09-2012, 08:38 PM
There was no pass rush up front from our first round pick defensive ends. None. Dorsey and Jackson were both useless. They were credited today for five tackles between them, but I can't for the life of me remember a single impact play that either were involved in.
Damn you're dense - how many times does a 3-4 defense need to be explained for people to understand how stupid that evaluation is?

Rain Man
09-09-2012, 08:40 PM
I'm curious how many snaps Dorsey and Jackson got. It seemed like the Falcons abandoned the run for most of the game, and our linemen were Poe and Pitoitua in the pass rush package a whole lot.

gblowfish
09-09-2012, 08:42 PM
Damn you're dense - how many times does a 3-4 defense need to be explained for people to understand how stupid that evaluation is?

Right. A defensive end can't be an impact rusher on defense. Like Jared Allen. Or Neil Smith. Or Leslie O'Neil.

Two players, both high first round picks. Five tackles between them. Heckuva job, Brownie....

KCChiefsFan88
09-09-2012, 08:43 PM
Fat Scott's secret police must be looking for candy wrappers.

This franchise is an absolute trainwreck.

Saccopoo
09-09-2012, 08:45 PM
Right. A defensive end can't be an impact rusher on defense. Like Jared Allen. Or Neil Smith. Or Leslie O'Neil.

Two players, both high first round picks. Five tackles between them. Heckuva job, Brownie....

Two different schemes.

A 34 defensive end isn't a pass rusher by the fact of the scheme they play in, especially in Crennel's defense.

Allen, Smith and O'Neil are/were all dedicated pass rushers in a 43.

It's apples and oranges.

O.city
09-09-2012, 08:46 PM
Today was a bit of a perfect storm.


The Falcons are a really really good offense and we were really banged up on defense.

KCChiefsFan88
09-09-2012, 08:48 PM
Today was a bit of a perfect storm.


The Falcons are a really really good offense and we were really banged up on defense.

Today was a carbon copy of what happened during the Seattle preseason game on defense.

Other than Flowers all the defensive starters were available and played significant time during that game.

gblowfish
09-09-2012, 08:50 PM
Two different schemes.

A 34 defensive end isn't a pass rusher by the fact of the scheme they play in, especially in Crennel's defense.

Allen, Smith and O'Neil are/were all dedicated pass rushers in a 43.

It's apples and oranges.

They all played in and 3-4 and a 4-3 while here.
So, you think we're getting our value out of these two guys (Jackson and Dorsey) considering where they were picked? (3rd over all in 1st round and 5th overall, 1st round)?

Also, if their "job" isn't to provide a pass rush, or to make tackles, what is it they're supposed to be doing exactly?

O.city
09-09-2012, 08:51 PM
THe Seahawks ran the ball on us. The Falcons didn't today. We just couldn't get a passrush, which we haven't been able to do in what seems like 20 years.

the Talking Can
09-09-2012, 08:53 PM
days like today make so glad to see the return we've gotten on 3 top eleven DL picks....

JASONSAUTO
09-09-2012, 08:54 PM
They all played in and 3-4 and a 4-3 while here.
So, you think we're getting our value out of these two guys (Jackson and Dorsey) considering where they were picked? (3rd over all in 1st round and 5th overall, 1st round)?

Also, if their "job" isn't to provide a pass rush, or to make tackles, what is it they're supposed to be doing exactly?

We never were a 3-4 team with Allen
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JASONSAUTO
09-09-2012, 08:54 PM
days like today make so glad to see the return we've gotten on 3 top eleven DL picks....

They couldn't run it on us
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milkman
09-09-2012, 08:55 PM
They all played in and 3-4 and a 4-3 while here.
So, you think we're getting our value out of these two guys (Jackson and Dorsey) considering where they were picked? (3rd over all in 1st round and 5th overall, 1st round)?

Also, if their "job" isn't to provide a pass rush, or to make tackles, what is it they're supposed to be doing exactly?

The primary job of a DE in this scheme is to occupy blockers to allow the LBs to make plays.

It's an outdated and flawed scheme in this era of passing the ball.

O.city
09-09-2012, 08:56 PM
The primary job of a DE in this scheme is to occupy blockers to allow the LBs to make plays.

It's an outdated and flawed scheme in this era of passing the ball.

This.



Plus today, our OLB's who are supposed to rush the passer, were awful.

gblowfish
09-09-2012, 08:56 PM
The primary job of a DE in this scheme is to occupy blockers to allow the LBs to make plays.

It's an outdated and flawed scheme in this era of passing the ball.

Well, they do a bang up job occupying about one blocker each. I'll give you that!

petegz28
09-09-2012, 08:56 PM
We have not played a 3-4 sine DT until Pioli

petegz28
09-09-2012, 08:57 PM
Well, they do a bang up job occupying about one blocker each. I'll give you that!

If you dont blitz you lb's you will never get pressure in this scheme

O.city
09-09-2012, 08:57 PM
If you are going to play the 34, gotta go more of the Ravens attacking style.

the Talking Can
09-09-2012, 08:57 PM
They couldn't run it on us
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we'll that's clearly worth 3 top eleven picks...

how many picks will it take to win?

notorious
09-09-2012, 08:58 PM
We made them one dimensional today.


Too bad that dimension was hell.

O.city
09-09-2012, 08:59 PM
We made them one dimensional today.


Too bad that dimension was hell.

I know you are being sarcastic here, but we actually did do a good job in that manner. Once we made them that way, we just didn't have any one to get pressure

JASONSAUTO
09-09-2012, 08:59 PM
we'll that's clearly worth 3 top eleven picks...

how many picks will it take to win?
One.

A franchise qb.
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Saccopoo
09-09-2012, 08:59 PM
Today was a bit of a perfect storm.


The Falcons are a really really good offense and we were really banged up on defense.

You are an idiot.

You should know it's all Cassel's fault. (Kidding about the idiot thing, just in case your sarcasm meter is off.)

And I agree with the witch hunt thing. This game was not lost by Cassel. In fact, he kept this team hanging around far longer than they deserved to with his play. People simply have it in their head that Cassel is the reason for any loss, so they'll discount any positives that he has/produces to justify their preconceptions.

Matt had a very good game.

The problems is that the lack of depth showed that this is a very young team that has a solid foundation, but once one of those pieces is missing, there isn't much there that's going to hold up the building. With Hali, Flowers, Lewis and Bailey, there's a good chance this team would have stayed in the game a lot longer and possibly could have won. This team is another two years away from making a legitimate run (maybe one if they have another solid draft and free agency as they just had in 2012), but we all have to realize that there are a lot of new pieces to the puzzle and it's going to take time to get everyone on a synergistic level. It's just what it is.

Bottom line is that Crennel should have blitzed a lot more. The defense/secondary was getting killed anyway, so instead of protecting it with the four or three man fronts, just go ahead and bring a couple of guys and get into Ryan's face.

I would have brought Arenas a ton in this game.

notorious
09-09-2012, 09:00 PM
I know you are being sarcastic here, but we actually did do a good job in that manner. Once we made them that way, we just didn't have any one to get pressure

I was speaking truth wrapped with sarcasm.


We stopped the run, but you could tell after the first drive that they going all in with their passing game after they found out how well we were defending it.

buddha
09-09-2012, 09:01 PM
Yes...let's turn this into yet another Cassel bashing session instead of focusing on how shitty the defense played.

JASONSAUTO
09-09-2012, 09:01 PM
Almost half our starting d are playing injured or out.

It's week one.
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O.city
09-09-2012, 09:01 PM
It was kinda tough either way. If you blitz, you are gonna get burned with the secondary the way it was. But you just can't sit back and let them march drive after drive liek they did today.

HemiEd
09-09-2012, 09:02 PM
Do other teams play their third-stringers as much as we do? It's odd to me to see people like Draughn and Copper and such playing in critical situations. It's almost as if Clark knows he'll have to pay bonuses based on snaps, so he tells the coaches to pull the starters.

That would actually make some sense, but seeing Berry and Charles out there when the game was clearly over, puzzled me.

I am glad you mentioned coaching George, as that is where I put most of the blame for this outcome today. The Chiefs on field talent compared more favorably to the Falcons than the coaching staff.

I know the defense was missing some very important pieces today, but just maybe this team needs a full time DC. Instead we have a guy trying to be HC at the same time, it is like spotting the other teams a coach.

This is starting to be a trend, and it didn't work worth a darn for Haley.

JASONSAUTO
09-09-2012, 09:03 PM
It was kinda tough either way. If you blitz, you are gonna get burned with the secondary the way it was. But you just can't sit back and let them march drive after drive liek they did today.
I would almost rather get beat being aggressive with the blitz than win being passive bitches
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O.city
09-09-2012, 09:04 PM
I would almost rather get beat being aggressive with the blitz than win being passive bitches
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I agree with this.


But the passive way allows you to somewhat stall it down hoping someone might make a play.

the Talking Can
09-09-2012, 09:05 PM
This team is another two years away from making a legitimate run (maybe one if they have another solid draft and free agency as they just had in 2012), but we all have to realize that there are a lot of new pieces to the puzzle and it's going to take time to get everyone on a synergistic level.

LMAO

we've been rebuilding since 2008, and now we're '2 years away?'

being gm of the chiefs is a sweet gig

Frankie
09-09-2012, 09:05 PM
Cassel looked like an all-pro for a half of football. I've never seen him look that good as a Chief.

http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/wildhorse/wildhorse0802/wildhorse080200006/2522519-rotten-apple-on-white-backround.jpg

Before halftime we saw the right half. Then teams changed directions and we saw the right half. This apple is rotten.

tredadda
09-09-2012, 09:06 PM
That would actually make some sense, but seeing Berry and Charles out there when the game was clearly over, puzzled me.

I am glad you mentioned coaching George, as that is where I put most of the blame for this outcome today. The Chiefs on field talent compared more favorably to the Falcons than the coaching staff.

I know the defense was missing some very important pieces today, but just maybe this team needs a full time DC. Instead we have a guy trying to be HC at the same time, it is like spotting the other teams a coach.

This is starting to be a trend, and it didn't work worth a darn for Haley.

I am willing to give it some time to see if it works. It does in many other situations. Crennel is not the mad man that Haley was, so he could actually succeed where Haley failed.

O.city
09-09-2012, 09:06 PM
After the half time adjustments, we came out and marched right down the field, then missed the FG.


IMO, it wasn't so much the adjustments, as it was the team being mentally soft.

O.city
09-09-2012, 09:08 PM
Just one or two stops in the first half today, we possibly get the ball to start the second half with a TD lead, looking to add on.



As much as we all want a shiny new qb, today, our qb wasn't he problem.

donkhater
09-09-2012, 09:08 PM
to play a true 3-4, you need at least 5-6 good to very good LBs. They are responsible for so much of what the D does. And depth is crucial. We have 3.

Frankie
09-09-2012, 09:08 PM
Let me see this team with all of its defensive cogs in place before I start calling for heads. As for Cassel, all you can hope for is that he plays strong in Buffalo for two halves, rather than one. You're stuck with him, so you may as well try to accentuate the positive.

This is NFL football. Chances are no team will have all their cogs all the time. It's up to the GM to spend some of the owner's extra $30 million to buy quality depth.

DaneMcCloud
09-09-2012, 09:09 PM
As much as we all want a shiny new qb, today, our qb wasn't he problem.

LMAO

tredadda
09-09-2012, 09:10 PM
This is NFL football. Chances are no team will have all their cogs all the time. It's up to the GM to spend some of the owner's extra $30 million to buy quality depth.

^ This

O.city
09-09-2012, 09:10 PM
to play a true 3-4, you need at least 5-6 good to very good LBs. They are responsible for so much of what the D does. And depth is crucial. We have 3.

This actually is a good statement. We have 4 good LB's.


I actually liked what I saw from Jones today a little bit.

gblowfish
09-09-2012, 09:11 PM
The Chiefs are especially thin in two critical spots: Offensive Line and Defensive Backs. If (and a BIG IF) Flowers and Lewis can both make it back, neither is in game shape yet. It'll probably be a couple two or three games before they are both in game shape. Oh, and Brown only played on special teams today. His groin is still iffy. Also, our offensive line is very thin. If anybody goes down, the two main backups are both rookies. I was afraid Winston was down in the second half today. On the Cassel fumble he got rolled up on. Glad he walked off on his own power. Cassel was a little tweaky in the second half too. I think he got kicked in the calf. They got Quinn up and had him throwing passes on the side in the 4th quarter, but they never brought him in.

munkey
09-09-2012, 09:11 PM
Just one or two stops in the first half today, we possibly get the ball to start the second half with a TD lead, looking to add on.



As much as we all want a shiny new qb, today, our qb wasn't he problem.


You can't be serious....you obviously know nothing about football...

O.city
09-09-2012, 09:12 PM
I really don't know why Eachus was kept. Rather kept Mims or someone on the OL.

munkey
09-09-2012, 09:13 PM
The Chiefs are especially thin in two critical spots: Offensive Line and Defensive Backs. If (and a BIG IF) Flowers and Lewis can both make it back, neither is in game shape yet. It'll probably be a couple two or three games before they are both in game shape. Also, our offensive line is very thin. If anybody goes down, the two main backups are both rookies. I was afraid Winston was down in the second half today. On the Cassel fumble he got rolled up on. Glad he walked off on his own power. Cassel was a little tweaky in the second half too. I think he got kicked in the calf. They got Quinn up and had him throwing passes on the side in the 4th quarter, but they never brought him in.

We have no QB...why is this such a debate?

tredadda
09-09-2012, 09:15 PM
We have no QB...why is this such a debate?

Because the fans know this (at least on CP that is), but for some reason the Front Office still sees him as a viable option who just needs more weapons and protection.

Frankie
09-09-2012, 09:16 PM
I really don't know why Eachus was kept. Rather kept Mims or someone on the OL.

I think he will end up on the practice squad yet. Maybe Mims will be the one who'll get called up. Although I had better hopes for Mims than what I saw in the preseason.

Baconeater
09-09-2012, 09:18 PM
Well, they do a bang up job occupying about one blocker each. I'll give you that!
Damn right, that's the payoff from spending those high first round picks on them. You don't just find guys who can occupy a blocker anywhere in the draft.

O.city
09-09-2012, 09:20 PM
Wish we would have blitzed alot more today.

Pablo
09-09-2012, 09:27 PM
I counted at least five of those promotional STH jerseys that were fucked up. One was a Dawson jersey with the shoulder numbers flipped to 61 like the Shields one that was posted here a few days ago. Others were oddly spaced and some were off-center. There was an "11" jersey with the numbers at least three inches off-center.
I saw a 42 Flowers jersey. Sweet work, Chiefs.

notorious
09-09-2012, 09:28 PM
I saw a 42 Flowers jersey. Sweet work, Chiefs.

Are you guys joking or did they really fuck the jerseys up that bad?


Why in the hell would any fan wear that garbage?

munkey
09-09-2012, 09:30 PM
Wish we would have blitzed alot more today.


God...this shit being posted tonight...it's almost sad...

JASONSAUTO
09-09-2012, 09:30 PM
Are you guys joking or did they really fuck the jerseys up that bad?


Why in the hell would any fan wear that garbage?
I'm wondering why they would even wear it out myself
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O.city
09-09-2012, 09:31 PM
God...this shit being posted tonight...it's almost sad...

Sure.

JASONSAUTO
09-09-2012, 09:31 PM
God...this shit being posted tonight...it's almost sad...
what's sad about wishing we would have blitzed more.

Amaze us with your football knowledge.
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notorious
09-09-2012, 09:33 PM
what's sad about wishing we would have blitzed more.


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This.


We got destroyed when we blitzed today.

O.city
09-09-2012, 09:34 PM
We got destroyed when we didn't blitz today too.

JASONSAUTO
09-09-2012, 09:34 PM
This.


We got destroyed when we blitzed today.
I meant that period as a question mark.

Sorry.
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tredadda
09-09-2012, 09:35 PM
This.


We got destroyed when we blitzed today.

We got destroyed when we blitzed and when we didn't blitz. Not having Hali hurt as we only had one true pass rusher out there, Justin Houston, who is still young and raw.

munkey
09-09-2012, 09:37 PM
what's sad about wishing we would have blitzed more.

Amaze us with your football knowledge.
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The "D" was lost without Hali or Flowers...we don't have the depth to take chances and "blitz" more...are you serious? What were the points off turn overs? please enlighten me...football guru

Agent V
09-09-2012, 09:37 PM
Are you guys joking or did they really fuck the jerseys up that bad?


Why in the hell would any fan wear that garbage?

I don't joke about jerseys. I usually laugh at the horrid counterfeits, but this game, I was laughing at the INCREDIBLE amount of fucked-up STH jerseys. The inconsistencies, crookedness, and spacing issues were terrible, but switching the numbers around? Christ.

I'd like to do a little research to find out if this is on the Chiefs or Nike. Likely both. But it's pretty clear the Chiefs were in over their heads with this promotion.

JASONSAUTO
09-09-2012, 09:39 PM
The "D" was lost without Hali or Flowers...we don't have the depth to take chances and "blitz" more...are you serious? What were the points off turn overs? please enlighten me...football guru


We didn't get any points off turnovers did we?

We were getting or asses kicked being conservative, more pressure more guys coming, more guys coming from multiple places, more chances to get those turnovers.

How did they force our turnovers?
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JASONSAUTO
09-09-2012, 09:40 PM
We sure a fuck couldn't cover anyone for am extended period of time, but sure let's let the qb sit back there and have all day...
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munkey
09-09-2012, 09:43 PM
We didn't get any points off turnovers did we?

We were getting or asses kicked being conservative, more pressure more guys coming, more guys coming from multiple places, more chances to get those turnovers.

How did they force our turnovers?
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Dude...have another beer or what ever...THE CHIEFS tuned the ball over in the third qt how many times? ugh...pointless...:doh!:

JASONSAUTO
09-09-2012, 09:47 PM
Dude...have another beer or what ever...THE CHIEFS tuned the ball over in the third qt how many times? ugh...pointless...:doh!:

Haven't drank any beer, how about you?

No shit the chiefs turned it over... What the fuck does that have to do with us blitzing more on d?
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KCinNY
09-09-2012, 09:49 PM
Saw a Larry Johnson jersey at Price Chopper this morning. Yet another example of why I'm seriously considering dumping the Chiefs in favor of my wife's beloved 49ers.

She and her family are utterly intolerant of mediocrity in their NFL team. Novel concept and kinda refreshing.

JASONSAUTO
09-09-2012, 09:50 PM
Saw a Larry Johnson jersey at Price Chopper this morning. Yet another example of why I'm seriously considering dumping the Chiefs in favor of my wife's beloved 49ers.

She and her family are utterly intolerant of mediocrity in their NFL team. Novel concept and kinda refreshing.
Bye
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Planetman
09-09-2012, 09:52 PM
Saw a Larry Johnson jersey at Price Chopper this morning. Yet another example of why I'm seriously considering dumping the Chiefs in favor of my wife's beloved 49ers.

She and her family are utterly intolerant of mediocrity in their NFL team. Novel concept and kinda refreshing.

Well, bye.

KCinNY
09-09-2012, 09:57 PM
Eh...fuck you, noobs. I've been loyal to this team since Mike Livingston and Ted McKnight(when everyone else in central Missouri was a Cowboys, Steelers, Chargers or whoever fan).

When the fans care more about winning a title than ownership does, it's time for me to reevaluate.

milkman
09-09-2012, 09:59 PM
Eh...**** you, noobs. I've been loyal to this team since Mike Livingston and Ted McKnight(when everyone else in central Missouri was a Cowboys, Steelers, Chargers or whoever fan).

When the fans care more about winning a title than ownership does, it's time for me to reevaluate.

Well bye.

Munson
09-09-2012, 09:59 PM
Saw a Larry Johnson jersey at Price Chopper this morning. Yet another example of why I'm seriously considering dumping the Chiefs in favor of my wife's beloved 49ers.

She and her family are utterly intolerant of mediocrity in their NFL team. Novel concept and kinda refreshing.

What kind of punk just switches teams once the season has started? :shrug:

Demonpenz
09-09-2012, 09:59 PM
on the left is a typical zone that successful defenses play. On the right it shows what happened to the chiefs today. They were distracted with Red Lobsters Endless shrimp

KCinNY
09-09-2012, 10:03 PM
What kind of punk just switches teams once the season has started? :shrug:

Nah...this started last year during the Palko debacle.

This team is garbage, the fanbase is populated by brain-dead truefans and the Hunt family is not worthy of my decades of loyalty.

Fuck them.

....and bye to you guys too.

Baconeater
09-09-2012, 10:05 PM
on the left is a typical zone that successful defenses play. On the right it shows what happened to the chiefs today. They were distracted with Red Lobsters Endless shrimp
LMAO

Deberg_1990
09-09-2012, 10:07 PM
Saw a Larry Johnson jersey at Price Chopper this morning. Yet another example of why I'm seriously considering dumping the Chiefs in favor of my wife's beloved 49ers.

She and her family are utterly intolerant of mediocrity in their NFL team. Novel concept and kinda refreshing.

So what did her family do from the late 90s till last year when the Niners got good again?

Planetman
09-09-2012, 10:07 PM
Eh...**** you, noobs. I've been loyal to this team since Mike Livingston and Ted McKnight(when everyone else in central Missouri was a Cowboys, Steelers, Chargers or whoever fan).

When the fans care more about winning a title than ownership does, it's time for me to reevaluate.
If I could only find the picture of myself, sporting my Dawson jersey as a kid DURING our Superbowl run. Goddamn n00b.

Chocolate Hog
09-09-2012, 10:13 PM
Do they really need CIA sideline agents to finish in last place?

Munson
09-09-2012, 10:13 PM
Nah...this started last year during the Palko debacle.

This team is garbage, the fanbase is populated by brain-dead truefans and the Hunt family is not worthy of my decades of loyalty.

**** them.

....and bye to you guys too.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4zc0hMyHr1rwcc6bo1_400.gif

58-4ever
09-09-2012, 10:30 PM
Do they really need CIA sideline agents to finish in last place?

Afraid of a revolt.

HemiEd
09-09-2012, 10:36 PM
Wish we would have blitzed alot more today.

The DBs couldn't cover shit, the game would have gotten out of hand even sooner.

JASONSAUTO
09-09-2012, 10:40 PM
The DBs couldn't cover shit, the game would have gotten out of hand even sooner.

If they can't cover why give the qb all the time in the world to sit back and make passes?

Best way to help the db's is pressure
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lewdog
09-09-2012, 10:54 PM
The only fucking way this defense will work is if we have two shut down corners on the outside that can play one-on-one most of the game so we can bring pressure up front with LBs. Who knows when Flowers is coming back and Routt sure isn't no Carr.

:facepalm:

Saleenman607
09-09-2012, 10:56 PM
My ten takes....... 1 thru 10, Same Old Shit

No need to re-hash

That is All

Saleenman607
09-09-2012, 10:57 PM
Oh.......by the way, to KCinNY, well...... bye

Priest31kc
09-09-2012, 11:00 PM
The only fucking way this defense will work is if we have two shut down corners on the outside that can play one-on-one most of the game so we can bring pressure up front with LBs. Who knows when Flowers is coming back and Routt sure isn't no Carr.

:facepalm:

Routt wasn't really the problem today. It was everyone else.

Berry didn't do much, but I don't think Ryan threw his way much after he broke up a pass to Tony G early in the game...

ThaVirus
09-09-2012, 11:05 PM
The only ****ing way this defense will work is if we have two shut down corners on the outside that can play one-on-one most of the game so we can bring pressure up front with LBs. Who knows when Flowers is coming back and Routt sure isn't no Carr.

:facepalm:

You think so? I'd rather have Carr, no doubt, but Routt is the LEAST of my worries. Shit, I thought he was the only one that did ok today.

The issue with watching games is that sometimes it's tough to tell what the player's assignment is for that particular play. There was a catch or two that it would appear that Routt "allowed" but if you watched more closely it seemed he released the receiver to another zone. Basically, I think Romeo's schemes are just too lax. They would be perfect for a team in the top 5 in the sacks/pressures department. Obviously, that's not us. Ever.

ThaVirus
09-09-2012, 11:08 PM
Berry didn't do much

I think that's to be expected. He's essentially in his second season. Plus he's possibly still dealing with the physical/psychological effects of his ACL tear. I'll give him until game 6 or so to get a feel for the game again and start making plays. By then Flowers should be back and that will also make a world of difference.

lewdog
09-09-2012, 11:09 PM
Routt wasn't really the problem today. It was everyone else.

Berry didn't do much, but I don't think Ryan threw his way much after he broke up a pass to Tony G early in the game...

You think so? I'd rather have Carr, no doubt, but Routt is the LEAST of my worries. Shit, I thought he was the only one that did ok today.

The issue with watching games is that sometimes it's tough to tell what the player's assignment is for that particular play. There was a catch or two that it would appear that Routt "allowed" but if you watched more closely it seemed he released the receiver to another zone. Basically, I think Romeo's schemes are just too lax. They would be perfect for a team in the top 5 in the sacks/pressures department. Obviously, that's not us. Ever.


I wasn't trying to slam Routt because he obviously is not the problem. But for Romeo's defensive scheme to work we have to have some shut down corners since blitzing is the only way we can get pressures on the QB. Too much zone shit for our crappy DBs today and they aren't quick enough to cover those zone areas when there is no pressure on the QB.

And fuck Reeves, what a piece of shit.

ThaVirus
09-09-2012, 11:11 PM
Who I'm most annoyed with today was DJ. For being such a star player I'd expected him to elevate his game today in place of Hali. We played decent against the run and I don't remember many passes to the TE/RBs in the middle of the field so perhaps he had a solid game. The only time I really noticed him though was on Ryan's TD run when he totally took himself out of the play. He's way to athletic and experienced to fall for that pussy ass cut block that guy threw, especially being that he should have been the one to hold containment...

Baconeater
09-09-2012, 11:12 PM
I think that's to be expected. He's essentially in his second season. Plus he's possibly still dealing with the physical/psychological effects of his ACL tear. I'll give him until game 6 or so to get a feel for the game again and start making plays. By then Flowers should be back and that will also make a world of difference.
And by then Denver will probably have a 4 game lead on us in the division.

ThaVirus
09-09-2012, 11:12 PM
I'm contemplating walking on for our secondary. Pretty sure I could make the team and we need some (capable) bodies.

munkey
09-09-2012, 11:15 PM
Carr > Bowe....that is all...major fuck up...

ThaVirus
09-09-2012, 11:16 PM
And by then Denver will probably have a 4 game lead on us in the division.

If that's the case then we'll just have to give up on the season. Wildcard won't even be an option.

Week 2: @ Atlanta
Week 3: Texans
Week 4: Raiders
Week 5: @ Patriots
Week 6: @ Chargers

Then that's followed by the Saints and Bengals. A pretty tough run and if they truly are up on us by that much, then they'll likely deserve it.

lewdog
09-09-2012, 11:18 PM
Carr > Bowe....that is all...major **** up...

I am fine with letting Carr go for the money he wanted but then use that money to increase the depth in the secondary so you can run varied defensive sets that aren't all secondary dropped zones. Gotta be more creative to get pressures on the QB if you don't have corners who can go one-on-one all game like Flowers and Carr did a shit ton last year.

munkey
09-09-2012, 11:23 PM
I am fine with letting Carr go for the money he wanted but then use that money to increase the depth in the secondary so you can run varied defensive sets that aren't all secondary dropped zones. Gotta be more creative to get pressures on the QB if you don't have corners who can go one-on-one all game like Flowers and Carr did a shit ton last year.

Carr proved his worth opening with the boys last week....he's worth every penny when it comes to our scheme but apparently the chiefs thought they could run it without him? dumb...

mcaj22
09-09-2012, 11:25 PM
if the Chiefs thought they could run with out Carr they should have at least addressed the need in all areas. Starter, depth, competition. Should have signed Routt and drafted a guy in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th. Any CB or Safety. The fact that Fat Scott Pioli feels content at some of these positions is laughable.

Instead they went the cheaper route and signed Jacques ****ing Reeves. And HE MADE THE FINAL 53. Jacques Reeves is the "The Right 53". Get out of here with that Patriot Way preach garbage when you have trash like that on the team

mcaj22
09-09-2012, 11:27 PM
and lets not forget the fact that besides Kendrick Lewis we dont have a true FS on this team. They didnt even bother signing a FS. A real one. Not in draft or FA. Instead they thought converting Travis Daniels from CB to FS was the cheaper/more strategic alternative. And well guess what, Travis Daniels looks lost out there and has no idea what the fuck hes doing at FS so they should have just kept him at CB. What a logical fucking idea.

Frankie
09-09-2012, 11:30 PM
Question for Mr. gblowfish or any other poster who was at Arrowhead today:

In the game thread today a lot of posters jumped all over Gonzo's ass for celebrating his TD. Did I miss something? Granted I was watching the game on a small stream scope, but I didn't see any over the top celebration, or fan-dissing by Gonzo. Did you?

munkey
09-09-2012, 11:31 PM
and lets not forget the fact that besides Kendrick Lewis we dont have a true FS on this team. They didnt even bother signing a FS. A real one. Not in draft or FA. Instead they thought converting Travis Daniels from CB to FS was the cheaper/more strategic alternative. And well guess what, Travis Daniels looks lost out there and has no idea what the **** hes doing at FS so they should have just kept him at CB. What a logical ****ing idea.


Casshole needed Bowe to succeed...it's that obvious? Scott is just trying to save his ass when it comes to the Hunts money HE invested in Matt...

cdcox
09-09-2012, 11:33 PM
I am fine with letting Carr go for the money he wanted

Just so Clark can keep it in his pocket? If it isn't going to be invested else where then we should have kept him.

lewdog
09-09-2012, 11:36 PM
Casshole needed Bowe to succeed...it's that obvious? Scott is just trying to save his ass when it comes to the Hunts money HE invested in Matt...

I don't mind keeping Bowe over Carr because it is obvious we weren't going to keep both....we have the nickname Cheaps for good reason.

And I think people aren't realizing how likely far behind Baldwin must be at this point. He must totally suck to not be seeing the field on this team.

But you can't trot out Brown and Elam and expect to compete either. No depth in the secondary is again going to kill us all year.

lewdog
09-09-2012, 11:38 PM
Just so Clark can keep it in his pocket? If it isn't going to be invested else where then we should have kept him.

Did you not read the rest of my post? I said if you let him go you invest the money in depth to at least soften the blow of losing Carr. Try to keep up.

mcaj22
09-09-2012, 11:38 PM
and what happens if this Carr or Bowe scenario plays out AGAIN this offseason part II style

so it will Bowe, Albert, Dorsey

whats Fat Scott going to do again? He can only tag one of them, and the other 2 can just pull a Brandon Carr and tell him to fuck off with his crap and they are going to test the market, and there is nothing he can do, and we as fans just watch more homegrown talent walk out the door for nothing

munkey
09-09-2012, 11:40 PM
I don't mind keeping Bowe over Carr because it is obvious we weren't going to keep both....we have the nickname Cheaps for good reason.

And I think people aren't realizing how likely far behind Baldwin must be at this point. He must totally suck to not be seeing the field on this team.



With JM, TM, MC, Hilis and Baldwin I'd let Bowe go in a heartbeat...The receivers aren't the problem...it's the QB...always has been...

cdcox
09-09-2012, 11:41 PM
Did you not read the rest of my post? I said if you let him go you invest the money in depth to at least soften the blow of losing Carr. Try to keep up.

Guilty.

lewdog
09-09-2012, 11:42 PM
With JM, TM, MC, Hilis and Baldwin I'd let Bowe go in a heartbeat...The receivers aren't the problem...it's the QB...always has been...

Do you honestly see any QB having great success with outside receiving threats of Baldwin, Breaston and McCluster?

And no this is not me sticking up for Cassel, he is the biggest problem on this team but come on let's not be retarded.

munkey
09-09-2012, 11:46 PM
Do you honestly see any QB having great success with outside receiving threats of Baldwin, Breaston and McCluster?

And no this is not me sticking up for Cassel, he is the biggest problem on this team but come on let's not be retarded.


Not being retard.....BUT if a rookie in Seattle and Cleveland can play better with lesser talent on offense and WIN I give up...The organization is a joke...

lewdog
09-09-2012, 11:49 PM
the organization is a joke...

.

Frankie
09-09-2012, 11:58 PM
The organization is a joke...

We have seen this sentiment expressed by Chiefs fans with reasonable legitimacy through 3 front offices and many coaching changes. Through all of this history, what's the constant?....

THE OWNERSHIP!!!!

Anyong Bluth
09-10-2012, 12:00 AM
Only a true dumbass needs to quote the OP to make this post.

Good job, dumbass.

My exact fucking thoughts as I'm swiping down down down on my phone past the quote only to find no response to multiple points and just a fluffer response.

munkey
09-10-2012, 12:09 AM
My exact ****ing thoughts as I'm swiping down down down on my phone past the quote only to find no response to multiple points and just a fluffer response.

?

Mecca
09-10-2012, 12:12 AM
I'm fine with letting Carr go if you use the money to improve the team like I dunno sign Peyton Manning or something like that..but to just put it in your pocket no I'm not ok with that.

Anyong Bluth
09-10-2012, 01:35 AM
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See post 13 & 16, I think because tapatalk mobile doesn't show thread post numbers. Either way it's right at the beginning of this thread.

DeezNutz
09-10-2012, 06:16 AM
Well, they do a bang up job occupying about one blocker each. I'll give you that!

That's the problem. Opposing teams call it "effectively blocking our line."

Chiefnj2
09-10-2012, 06:57 AM
Not being retard.....BUT if a rookie in Seattle and Cleveland can play better with lesser talent on offense and WIN I give up...The organization is a joke...

I'm guessing you didn't see the Seattle or Cleveland game.

Anyong Bluth
09-10-2012, 07:04 AM
Routt wasn't really the problem today. It was everyone else.

Berry didn't do much, but I don't think Ryan threw his way much after he broke up a pass to Tony G early in the game...

Problem is we can't really tell what to expect from Routt since the the Falcon's knew they could get whatever they want and gashed us all over the field against our subs.

Agent V
09-10-2012, 07:46 AM
Question for Mr. gblowfish or any other poster who was at Arrowhead today:

In the game thread today a lot of posters jumped all over Gonzo's ass for celebrating his TD. Did I miss something? Granted I was watching the game on a small stream scope, but I didn't see any over the top celebration, or fan-dissing by Gonzo. Did you?

He celebrated with his teammates, then as an afterthought, he scooped up the ball and dunked it over the goalpost, IIRC.

MIAdragon
09-10-2012, 08:05 AM
So what did her family do from the late 90s till last year when the Niners got good again?

I'm sure the 5 Lombardi's eased the pain somewhat.

memyselfI
09-10-2012, 08:27 AM
You are an idiot.

You should know it's all Cassel's fault. (Kidding about the idiot thing, just in case your sarcasm meter is off.)

And I agree with the witch hunt thing. This game was not lost by Cassel. In fact, he kept this team hanging around far longer than they deserved to with his play. People simply have it in their head that Cassel is the reason for any loss, so they'll discount any positives that he has/produces to justify their preconceptions.

Matt had a very good game.



I thought so too. I think there will be those that blame him for everything that happened yesterday. Hopefully it will be no one who matters. Like his teammates, his coaches, or him self.

He didn't miss the field goal, drop catch able passes, or lay an egg on defense. BTW, did anyone else see how Rodgers and Brees played yesterday. Both elite QBs had bad games...at home.

A shit ton went wrong second half yesterday. I thought the crowd totally disappeared at half time. Everyone was sitting and not a ton of excitement in the stands even though the Chiefs were down by only 3. After Succup missed FG you could see the game was over and the air sucked out of the crowd. It was my first home opener ever and my first Chiefs game in a number of years. I was stunned to see the energy level in the stadium drained so quickly at half time even before the missed FG.

Chiefnj2
09-10-2012, 08:28 AM
I'll add some of my own random thoughts:

1. Flea flicker, should not be called, ever.
2. Dallas must really be 2nd guessing the signing of Carr and his huge 3.2 mil cap hit this year. Good job Scott! Hope you got yourself some neat sweatpants with the savings.
3. 4 years at the helm and Scott has brought in which player who can rush the passer? Anyone? Beuller? Beuller? Oh that's right he's milking it off of Herm's draft.
4. Cassel showed improvement. Went downfield (for Cassel) a few times. Converted a few third and longs. They still should have traded this entire draft plus a 1st and 2nd next year for Griffin. To all the people who said the Skins gave up too much, eat a bag of dicks.
5. 3 top 11 picks on the DL and they still can't collapse the line at all. I'm not even talking about getting a hand on the QB, I mean push the OL back. Ryan could have played with two broken ankles and he would have been fine in the pocket.
6. I watch other teams throw screens and slants and short crossing patterns and they have WRs who can actually catch the ball, make a guy miss and take it 30, 40, 50 yards. How about a WR with speed and acceleration one of these years?
7. People give McCluster a hard time when Baldwin is on the team? Is Baldwin on the team?

durtyrute
09-10-2012, 08:39 AM
The lost was not on Cassel.

that is all

Von Dumbass
09-10-2012, 08:50 AM
Didn't want to start a new thread... Thought you guys might want to look at it though....

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7863/aviaryprofootballfocusc.png
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7863/aviaryprofootballfocusc.png

gblowfish
09-10-2012, 09:36 AM
Question for Mr. gblowfish or any other poster who was at Arrowhead today:

In the game thread today a lot of posters jumped all over Gonzo's ass for celebrating his TD. Did I miss something? Granted I was watching the game on a small stream scope, but I didn't see any over the top celebration, or fan-dissing by Gonzo. Did you?

Gonzo catches the TD pass (first play after the Cassel fumble). The ball squirts away after the TD. Ryan picks it up, goes over to Gonzo. In the paper this AM, Gonzo said Ryan suggested he dunk it. So he did, then kept the ball as a souvenir.

He didn't shake his Johnson at the crowd, or mock the tomahawk chop, or do anything to antagonize. Scoring a TD at that point to stretch the lead from 10 to 17 points was bad enough.

I think Tony has genuine love for the KC fans, and a I think most of us wish him well. You can't blame him for wanting to get out of here and go play for a contender at the end of his playing days. He'll go in the HOF as a Chief, not a Falcon.

Sofa King
09-10-2012, 09:39 AM
If someone has a problem with Tony dunking the ball it's only because they're jealous that he doesn't play for us anymore.

Reerun_KC
09-10-2012, 09:40 AM
http://i46.tinypic.com/1j6x6e.gif



This picture says it all about the 7-11 Defense....

This is exactly how I watched the game... You can see the disgust in Cassels face looking out at this atrocity Crennel is putting on the Field... Worse part, Crennel is a foot shuffling Herm Porter...

:banghead: I cant wait til we get a real NFL coach...

MagicHef
09-10-2012, 10:11 AM
Didn't want to start a new thread... Thought you guys might want to look at it though....

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7863/aviaryprofootballfocusc.png
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7863/aviaryprofootballfocusc.png

Hillis was in pass protection for 4 plays, and managed to give up a sack and a hurry.

scho63
09-10-2012, 10:34 AM
Ten Things About Today's Game

10. my general hope for this year was this: The defense that carried the team in the last month last season hopefully would carry momentum into this year.Today was almost as bad an opener as last year. This year, we were in it for a half before getting totally embarrased. There's no home excuse when you have perfect weather, a full house and a great atmosphere. But just like last year, the fans ended up getting a swift kick in the red and gold nads.

We certainly suck in the last 10 years in our first game and this was a good example. The stands emptied out pretty quickly

9. In the four phases, KC matched up with Atlanta for one half in only one phase: Offense. The offense looked reasonably good the first half with a good mix of run and pass. This game became a total mis-match in the third quarter because of the other three phases: Defense, Special Teams and Coaching.

When for an entire game only 1/4 of 1/2 of the team shows excellence, you have little chance of a win and today the proof was in the pudding.

8. This was the worst defensive performance I can remember in terms of lack of pass rush and lack of pass coverage since the Colts playoff game in the Vermeil era. Frankly, I'm worried.

My feelings exactly and it also brought back memories of the Colts no punt blowout in the playoffs.

7. Special teams were poor.

How did we go from one the best in the league for so many years to one of the worst? No TD's from punts or kicks, poor tackling, huge returns allowed, penalties like crazy in the past few years, and Succop looks shaky.

6,5,4. Matt Cassel

Started like a HERO, ended like a ZERO

3. The final aspect I haven't mentioned is coaching. Why are guys like Charles still out there when the game is out of hand? I don't get it.

I give our entire coaching staff a big fat "F" for the game

2. One sideline thing I noticed is that the Chiefs have added these secret service looking, Matrix-CIA types.

What a waste of money that could have been spent in better places

1. It's hard to be optimistic when so far this looks like same old crap in a brand new box. I would have been much happier to have seen the jersey money spent on keeping Brandon Carr. I think we could really use him about now.

Like Yogi Berra said "It's Deja Vu all over again"


I look forward to this after every game and like always, a good narrative. It was really hard to know what we are going to be like when our best "D" players are off the field and the difference between the "A" team and "B" team is like an abyss.

I really would like to see a great game next week in Buffalo and we should be able to do much better-their defense looks worse than Atlanta's did and our "D" should be in much better shape next week

Chiefnj2
09-10-2012, 04:19 PM
Baldwin ran with the first team 99% of camp, yet when the games begin he is only in on 21 plays total, 12 of which were pass attempts. Wow. He must be doing something wrong.

mcaj22
09-10-2012, 04:36 PM
no wonder Hillis pissed himself and ran home from the team/media in the locker room

what a turd

Buehler445
09-10-2012, 05:58 PM
With JM, TM, MC, Hilis and Baldwin I'd let Bowe go in a heartbeat...The receivers aren't the problem...it's the QB...always has been...

Not being retard.....BUT if a rookie in Seattle and Cleveland can play better with lesser talent on offense and WIN I give up...The organization is a joke...

While I agree this organization is a joke, I keep Bowe 100 times out of 100. He is an absolute BEAST who has put up huge numbers with ratshit at QB. Pay him. get a respectable QB. Demolish souls.

CoMoChief
09-10-2012, 05:59 PM
no wonder Hillis pissed himself and ran home from the team/media in the locker room

what a turd

who cares....the team stuff was already taken care of.

why do people give a shit when players don't want to answer ****-tarded questions from stupid people in the KC media?

I'd probably wanna leave and gtfo there as well.

the Talking Can
09-10-2012, 06:00 PM
Baldin needs to wear a McCluster wig

Frankie
09-10-2012, 06:13 PM
He celebrated with his teammates, then as an afterthought, he scooped up the ball and dunked it over the goalpost, IIRC.

Gonzo catches the TD pass (first play after the Cassel fumble). The ball squirts away after the TD. Ryan picks it up, goes over to Gonzo. In the paper this AM, Gonzo said Ryan suggested he dunk it. So he did, then kept the ball as a souvenir.

He didn't shake his Johnson at the crowd, or mock the tomahawk chop, or do anything to antagonize. Scoring a TD at that point to stretch the lead from 10 to 17 points was bad enough.

I think Tony has genuine love for the KC fans, and a I think most of us wish him well. You can't blame him for wanting to get out of here and go play for a contender at the end of his playing days. He'll go in the HOF as a Chief, not a Falcon.

If someone has a problem with Tony dunking the ball it's only because they're jealous that he doesn't play for us anymore.

So I was correct. I didn't see anything over the top or classless from Gonzo. The posters on the game thread were bombarding him with curses of "eat shit and die" variety. I'd say our posters were over the top, not Tony G.

Buehler445
09-10-2012, 06:14 PM
So I was correct. I didn't see anything over the top or classless from Gonzo. The posters on the game thread were bombarding him with curses of "eat shit and die" variety. I'd say our posters were over the top, not Tony G.

What did you expect? Particularly in a game thread.

Bwana
09-10-2012, 06:15 PM
Outstanding read George.

listopencil
09-10-2012, 06:20 PM
The primary job of a DE in this scheme is to occupy blockers to allow the LBs to make plays.

It's an outdated and flawed scheme in this era of passing the ball.

That was brought up here during the preseason. Teams just stopped consistently double-teaming and it ripped you guys up pretty badly.

Calcountry
09-10-2012, 07:21 PM
Clark will spend money on security but not a new quarterback. FMLShit, you can have a gross of security for the cost of one franchise QB.

DenverDanChiefsFan
09-10-2012, 07:44 PM
Only a true dumbass needs to quote the OP to make this post.

Good job, dumbass.

Just started reading the thread and though "Who the fuck quotes this entire OP".

Count Alex's Losses
09-11-2012, 03:43 PM
Hey George:

A friend wants to make an anti-Pioli sign for you to hold up at the next home game.

Interested?

Do you know anyone who sits on the Chiefs side between rows 1-15 near 35-50 line? My season tickets are row 30 on the 35, but I cannot hold a sign that would be seen in the pressbox and owners box. I can have a couple banners printed that would be small enough to pass thru the gates. Take a couple and use zip ties to secure each banner to make one large banner. We can make it say whatever and send the message to Pioli.

L.A. Chieffan
09-11-2012, 03:48 PM
Hey George:

A friend wants to make an anti-Pioli sign for you to hold up at the next home game.

Interested?

Those matrix guys would have that sign taken down and george whisked away to some arrowhead death chamber quicker than crennel eating a gates plate.

you want that to happen? hmm do you?

Urc Burry
09-11-2012, 04:06 PM
Baldwin ran with the first team 99% of camp, yet when the games begin he is only in on 21 plays total, 12 of which were pass attempts. Wow. He must be doing something wrong.

My theory with Baldwin is that he is a late read receiver. Bowe being a similar receiver is obviously better at this point. McCluster and Breaston are both 1-2 reads and make it much easier on Cassel. Then we have two good TE's who get matchups against linebackers. ATL has 3 very good corners and it just wasn't a good matchup.

gblowfish
09-11-2012, 04:19 PM
Hey George:

A friend wants to make an anti-Pioli sign for you to hold up at the next home game.

Interested?

This can't possibly be true.
You have no friends.

Sweet Daddy Hate
09-11-2012, 04:48 PM
I was told Dallas has the CIA looking dudes as well.

Sorter
10-29-2012, 03:46 PM
Damn you're dense - how many times does a 3-4 defense need to be explained for people to understand how stupid that evaluation is?

Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.


The 3-4 is a fucking front, idiot.

FAX
10-29-2012, 03:49 PM
I think it's a total cop-out to say that Dorsey and Jackson cannot rush the passer because they're too busy "occupying space".

I'm quite certain that, were one of those guys to accidentally sack the QB, Romeo would call a timeout and berate them for it. Hell, he'd probably try to give the down back to the enemy offense with our apologies.

FAX

Canofbier
10-29-2012, 03:56 PM
Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.


The 3-4 is a ****ing front, idiot.

The fuck? Did this thread really need to be bumped just so you could say that?

GloryDayz
10-31-2012, 03:27 PM
Hey Winston.....miss it yet??? And yeah Winston, NOBODY in Houston misses YOU!!!! They laugh at us for taking you! You suck Winston!!!

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/01/e9emuneh.jpg

Agent V
10-31-2012, 03:30 PM
Yeah, that's probably the best picture of Reliant Stadium on the Internet.

GloryDayz
10-31-2012, 09:23 PM
Yeah, that's probably the best picture of Reliant Stadium on the Internet.

I'm sure Winston is missing it by now... Bad pic or not, he's kicking himself for leaving to be one of Clark's goofs!

Matthew GB Cassel
10-31-2012, 09:39 PM
Hey, it's true. I have tunnel vision about my job. I really try to put my best foot forward. I know I haven't done the best job when it comes to turnovers, but we're all learning. Everybody knows I grind it out. We're a team and we're working to get better all the time. I'll give it all I have to see improvement, and I don't doubt my abilities. We just have to play better. That's it.

DaneMcCloud
10-31-2012, 09:40 PM
Hey, it's true. I have tunnel vision about my job. I really try to put my best foot forward. I know I haven't done the best job when it comes to turnovers, but we're all learning. Everybody knows I grind it out. We're a team and we're working to get better all the time. I'll give it all I have to see improvement, and I don't doubt my abilities. We just have to play better. That's it.

Matt Cassel doesn't live in Johnson County

Count Alex's Losses
10-31-2012, 09:44 PM
Hey, it's true. I have tunnel vision about my job. I really try to put my best foot forward. I know I haven't done the best job when it comes to turnovers, but we're all learning. Everybody knows I grind it out. We're a team and we're working to get better all the time. I'll give it all I have to see improvement, and I don't doubt my abilities. We just have to play better. That's it.

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