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RunKC
09-11-2012, 05:16 PM
I'm betting the Bills are gonna be pretty angry and ready to play on Sunday in their opener. They know they sucked ass on the road and have to keep up with the Pats, plus they are already down in the division.
We all know that we suck ass on the road, so it wouldn't surprise me to see us start out well, then fall apart.

Saints are gonna wax us too. No way this defense stops Brees and his receivers.

Chargers are the best chance for a win because their OL sucks and they can't get much pressure on the QB. Oh and they don't have that brokedick RB or their touted WR from San Diego State. But they do have one thing we don't...a franchise QB.

And I'm not even gonna discuss the Ravens. We might as well not show up for that game.

HonestChieffan
09-11-2012, 05:18 PM
The team we saw Sunday? Is there any doubt?

L.A. Chieffan
09-11-2012, 05:18 PM
uh you think the chargers are a better chance for us to win than the bills?

Guru
09-11-2012, 05:18 PM
I said we would be 1-4 so yeah, I think we could be 0-5.

BoneKrusher
09-11-2012, 05:21 PM
very likely, based on Sunday's game vs the Falcons.

CupidStunt
09-11-2012, 05:21 PM
When 2-3 is the absolute best case scenario, and pretty darn unlikely at that, yeah 0-5's very possible.

Douche Baggins
09-11-2012, 05:25 PM
http://i.imgur.com/NTrXU.gif

O.city
09-11-2012, 05:48 PM
Bet we are 4 and 1

Guru
09-11-2012, 05:51 PM
Bet we are 4 and 1

ROFL

Munson
09-11-2012, 05:52 PM
0-6 at the bye week is a real possibility.

BoneKrusher
09-11-2012, 05:52 PM
ROFL

i hope the 1 win he's counting isn't the Bills.;)

O.city
09-11-2012, 05:53 PM
Sky is falling.


Should beat the Bills, Saints didn't look good at all, Chargers are the Chargers.


Ravens are a tough one.

Guru
09-11-2012, 05:54 PM
0-6 at the bye week is a real possibility.

ummmmmmm

CaliforniaChief
09-11-2012, 05:56 PM
At 0-6, I'm sure the "Be an asshat for Matt" chants will be in full force.

PunkinDrublic
09-11-2012, 06:00 PM
This team is not great but they're not as horrible as you make them out to be. Buffalo isn't exactly an elite team either. This game is winnable. I do hope cheap shot Stevie leaves the game on a stretcher.

Spongeblack Bobtard
09-11-2012, 06:00 PM
Bet we are 4 and 1

I hope so and I could see it. We will beat the Bills.

Tamba needs to make up for the suspension and he will be doing it against a rookie LT.

Berry will want revenge.

The whole team should want revenge.

We should be able to get Bowe lined up on the Gilmore, the rook who got torched last week.

We signed Winston to deal with guys like Williams who sucked last week.

This one looks pretty good to me. I think this place will be full of hope after this Sunday.

Nightfyre
09-11-2012, 06:01 PM
If we are at 0-6 at the bye week, we had better clean house right then and there. Go grab some super-scout out of the Ravens organization and start over. Granted, our defensive players would probably look 10 times better if we used the Raven's ridiculously aggressive defensive scheme rather than this antiquated read and react bullshit. Plus personnel-wise we compare slightly favorably to the Raven's defense at this juncture.

REDHOTGTO
09-11-2012, 06:03 PM
I'm betting the Bills are gonna be pretty angry and ready to play on Sunday in their opener. They know they sucked ass on the road and have to keep up with the Pats, plus they are already down in the division.
We all know that we suck ass on the road, so it wouldn't surprise me to see us start out well, then fall apart.

Saints are gonna wax us too. No way this defense stops Brees and his receivers.

Chargers are the best chance for a win because their OL sucks and they can't get much pressure on the QB. Oh and they don't have that brokedick RB or their touted WR from San Diego State. But they do have one thing we don't...a franchise QB.

And I'm not even gonna discuss the Ravens. We might as well not show up for that game.
hello mr.obvious

KCUnited
09-11-2012, 06:05 PM
This team let a missed FG effect their momentum and "lost focus" after getting down by 10 at home. So yeah, 0-5 is possible, especially if we lose to Buffalo.

Spongeblack Bobtard
09-11-2012, 06:08 PM
This team let a missed FG effect their momentum and "lost focus" after getting down by 10 at home. So yeah, 0-5 is possible, especially if we lose to Buffalo.

...with five guys out on defense we couldn't afford one mistake by the offense. We couldn't stop the Falcons with all those guys out. However, I agree that asking Cassel to come from behind is a tall order.

If we go 0-6, I hope we start Stanzi and clean house.

KCUnited
09-11-2012, 06:16 PM
...with five guys out on defense we couldn't afford one mistake by the offense. We couldn't stop the Falcons with all those guys out. However, I agree that asking Cassel to come from behind is a tall order.

If we go 0-6, I hope we start Stanzi and clean house.

Injuries and being mentally soft we're 2 separate issues I saw on Sunday. We can get the injured guys back.

Stanzi wasn't even active Sunday, why would he come in at 0-6?

Bump
09-11-2012, 06:24 PM
I sincerely hope that 0-16 is a real possibility

saphojunkie
09-11-2012, 06:26 PM
Injuries and being mentally soft we're 2 separate issues I saw on Sunday. We can get the injured guys back.

Stanzi wasn't even active Sunday, why would he come in at 0-6?

Because at that point you throw the towel in on the season. Fire Pioli, fire crennel, fire daboll.

Give Jim Zorn interim duties. Lose. Lose some more. When you're done losing, draft the best QB available.

If this team goes 0-5 into the bye, there's no point in pretending there's any hope. I for one would be celebrating every loss.

You know why?

Because I'm a true fan that knows the team I love will only succeed when the QB position has been addressed.

Scorp
09-11-2012, 06:29 PM
We will beat the Bills.



No we won't.

Douche Baggins
09-11-2012, 06:30 PM
Because at that point you throw the towel in on the season. Fire Pioli, fire crennel, fire daboll.

Give Jim Zorn interim duties. Lose. Lose some more. When you're done losing, draft the best QB available.

If this team goes 0-5 into the bye, there's no point in pretending there's any hope. I for one would be celebrating every loss.

You know why?

Because I'm a true fan that knows the team I love will only succeed when the QB position has been addressed.

http://i.imgur.com/KjMtV.gif

Frazod
09-11-2012, 06:31 PM
http://i.imgur.com/KjMtV.gif

LMAO

Douche Baggins
09-11-2012, 06:31 PM
No we won't.

I am assuming at this point we will beat Buffalo.

It's what these fuckers do to give true fans hope.

If we lose to the Bills...

it. is. over.

The Bad Guy
09-11-2012, 06:31 PM
I'd love to go 0-16 to ensure that all this garbage is gone.

Douche Baggins
09-11-2012, 06:32 PM
I'd love to go 0-16 to ensure that all this garbage is gone.

:hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail:

Frazod
09-11-2012, 06:32 PM
Personally, I'm willing to wait to see if getting some starters back on defense will make a difference before sounding abandon ship.

L.A. Chieffan
09-11-2012, 06:39 PM
Honestly, we don't want to go 0-16 this season. I'm not that excited about the qb class and really we still have serious depth issues on defense and the OL. Cassell didn't lose us that game on Sunday.

We'll probably go about 9 and 7 and maybe we can get hot at the right time and make a run in the playoffs. What was the Giants record last season?

BoneKrusher
09-11-2012, 06:42 PM
Honestly, we don't want to go 0-16 this season. I'm not that excited about the qb class and really we still have serious depth issues on defense and the OL. Cassell didn't lose us that game on Sunday.

We'll probably go about 9 and 7 and maybe we can get hot at the right time and make a run in the playoffs. What was the Giants record last season?

the Giants were 9-7 last season but they had a QB and a Pass Rush.

L.A. Chieffan
09-11-2012, 06:42 PM
the Giants were 9-7 last season

BOOM. Thanks for making my point son

Scorp
09-11-2012, 06:42 PM
I am assuming at this point we will beat Buffalo.

It's what these ****ers do to give true fans hope.

If we lose to the Bills...

it. is. over.

I just dont see this soft team go into a hostile environment and battle out a win. I hope I am wrong.

BoneKrusher
09-11-2012, 06:44 PM
BOOM. Thanks for making my point son

you didnt quote the most important part of my post.

the Giants had a QB, we do not.
the Giants have the best Pass Rush in the league, we do not.

nice try tho. :thumb:

L.A. Chieffan
09-11-2012, 06:46 PM
you didnt quote the most important part of my post.

the Giants had a QB, we do not.
the Giants have the best Pass Rush in the league, we do not.

nice try tho. :thumb:

The Giants had an average D last year. Yes they had some pass rushers but we got Tamba Ganja Son.

Also, Eli finally came into his own last season I think the same might be said for Cassell

BoneKrusher
09-11-2012, 06:47 PM
The Giants had an average D last year. Yes they had some pass rushers but we got Tamba Ganja Son.

Also, Eli finally came into his own last season I think the same might be said for Cassell


nothing could please me more but i wont hold my breath.

The Bad Guy
09-11-2012, 06:52 PM
Honestly, we don't want to go 0-16 this season. I'm not that excited about the qb class and really we still have serious depth issues on defense and the OL. Cassell didn't lose us that game on Sunday.

We'll probably go about 9 and 7 and maybe we can get hot at the right time and make a run in the playoffs. What was the Giants record last season?

Just fucking kill yourself already.

TEX
09-11-2012, 06:54 PM
The Giants had an average D last year. Yes they had some pass rushers but we got Tamba Ganja Son.

Also, Eli finally came into his own last season I think the same might be said for Cassell

The Giants had the best defensive line in football And they might again when they start playing better. Regarding Matt Cassel, when people show you who they are you need to believe them. Cassel has shown us who he is and he is a backup quarterback and not a franchise quarterback. this team is staring 0 and 5 in the face the best they will be is 1 and 4.

L.A. Chieffan
09-11-2012, 06:58 PM
Just fucking kill yourself already.

LMAO

MahiMike
09-11-2012, 07:00 PM
We'll be 1-1 next week. After that, all bets are off.

TEX
09-11-2012, 07:00 PM
BOOM. Thanks for making my point son

The Giants have better personnel and a much better coach.

Deberg_1990
09-11-2012, 07:04 PM
Trust in Romeo, he's a proven winner

BoneKrusher
09-11-2012, 07:05 PM
The Giants have better personnel and a much better coach.

by Far!

DaFace
09-11-2012, 07:11 PM
This place is so incredibly knee-jerky, it's nauseating.

L.A. Chieffan
09-11-2012, 07:12 PM
Romeo has five (5) rings.

Coughlin has three

Douche Baggins
09-11-2012, 07:17 PM
This place is so incredibly knee-jerky, it's nauseating.

We've been blown out, what, 20 times in 50 games?

That's pretty bad.

BoneKrusher
09-11-2012, 07:19 PM
Romeo has five (5) rings.

Coughlin has three

Coughlin = HC

Romeo = DC
big difference.

DaFace
09-11-2012, 07:21 PM
We've been blown out, what, 20 times in 50 games?

That's pretty bad.

A majority of the Planet said that they expected us to get beat by the Falcons. We did. But prior to Sunday, the common sentiment was that we'd be better once Hali and Flowers came back. But of course, no one knows how to actually take an objective view at things around here and freaks out. If we beat the Bills next week, people will be talking playoffs again - count on it.

Douche Baggins
09-11-2012, 07:23 PM
People are freaking out because we got beat 40-17.

No one expected that.

Not even me.

A win over the Bills doesn't mean shit. Just means we're still good at beating shitty teams, which is all we ever do under this regime.

DaFace
09-11-2012, 07:28 PM
People are freaking out because we got beat 40-17.

No one expected that.

Not even me.

A win over the Bills doesn't mean shit. Just means we're still good at beating shitty teams, which is all we ever do under this regime.

I did. I said to my Bronco-fan FIL that I wasn't sure if I even wanted to watch the game because I figured their offense would completely torch our defense. Go figure - it happened.

But even though I expected it to be bad, I still am not all doom and gloom on the season. That was one of the toughest teams we'll likely play, and we'll hopefully have our two best defensive players back.

Do you doubt my prediction that we'll have threads where people will be predicting 10-6 if we win next week?

Douche Baggins
09-11-2012, 07:29 PM
Depends how the game goes.

jspchief
09-11-2012, 07:35 PM
Could? Yes.

They won't though. Too many individual playmakers. A few of our stars will put forth heroic performances that will offset the overall lack of consistent team play, giving us a win somewhere in the stretch.

It's how this team has avoided being horrible the last few years. Beat bad teams and steal a few wins off of individual star performance.

O.city
09-11-2012, 08:50 PM
Say we do go 2-14. Pioli's gone, Crennel gone, etc.


How many players/ Fa's will we be able to bring in or keep?

pimpchief
09-11-2012, 08:56 PM
They will be 4-1 without a doubt of my huge mind.

JASONSAUTO
09-11-2012, 09:05 PM
They will be 4-1 without a doubt of my huge mind.

how's the grades coming along?
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Molitoth
09-11-2012, 09:07 PM
I honestly think this team will go 0-5. I hope I'm wrong but I'd rather set myself up for surprise than letdown.

Buck
09-11-2012, 09:08 PM
Chargers are the best chance for a win because their OL sucks and they can't get much pressure on the QB. Oh and they don't have that brokedick RB or their touted WR from San Diego State. But they do have one thing we don't...a franchise QB.
.

We'll probably sack you guys at least 5 times. Our pass rush is going to be great, no matter what you think it is. Our strongest area is our front 7 on defense, believe it or not.

Molitoth
09-11-2012, 09:18 PM
We'll probably sack you guys at least 5 times. Our pass rush is going to be great, no matter what you think it is. Our strongest area is our front 7 on defense, believe it or not.

hmmmm, i dunno if Cassel will give you a sack... although he may attempt a pass at your DE's feet.

O.city
09-11-2012, 09:50 PM
If the Chiefs are 4 and 1 going to Tampa, I'd love to see this place.

Douche Baggins
09-11-2012, 09:54 PM
If the Chiefs are 4 and 1 going to Tampa, I'd love to see this place.

WHEN the Chiefs are 1-5 AFTER Tampa Bay, I'll LOVE this place.

Ace Gunner
09-11-2012, 09:57 PM
http://i.imgur.com/NTrXU.gif

and yes. But I think they beat the Aints. 1 - 4

O.city
09-11-2012, 09:58 PM
Why do you love this? I hate to see the Chiefs lose. It sucks.

MIAdragon
09-11-2012, 10:00 PM
Why do you love this? I hate to see the Chiefs lose. It sucks.

Losing breeds change (or that's the hope anyway) going 8-8 just fucking sucks.

Guru
09-11-2012, 10:00 PM
Why do you love this? I hate to see the Chiefs lose. It sucks.

Yeah, it does suck but they need to go full retard to clean up this mess.

Bewbies
09-11-2012, 10:02 PM
If we start 0-5 I'd be shocked. Our 'team' isn't that bad. Now our QB, coaching staff and front office probably are...

If we totally suck this year and keep the front office, and coaching staff, and the QB, I'm going Southerner and going all in on the SEC.

KCwolf
09-11-2012, 10:10 PM
As much as 1/2 this board would enjoy that..... 0-5 is out of the question. Sorry kids... we may even win this weekend.

Douche Baggins
09-11-2012, 10:25 PM
As much as 1/2 this board would enjoy that..... 0-5 is out of the question. Sorry kids... we may even win this weekend.

http://i.imgur.com/Qf2Uu.jpg

L.A. Chieffan
09-11-2012, 10:29 PM
He can make it .500

GO MATTY!

Discuss Thrower
09-11-2012, 11:13 PM
@ Buffalo (KC is 0-5 in the last 20 years when on the road at Buffalo; last win in 1986)
@ New Orleans (KC is 3-2 all time in New Orleans; Last win in 1994)
San Diego (2-3 vs SD at Arrowhead in last five years)
Baltimore (0-2 vs Baltimore combined regular and postseason)
@ Tampa Bay (1-4 all time at Tampa; last win in 1976).



I don't think this bodes very well for KC...

Aries Walker
09-11-2012, 11:48 PM
I said at the start, 2-4 going into the bye, 8-2 after it. I stick by that.

JD10367
09-11-2012, 11:52 PM
A long way back, in discussing this season's schedule, I said somewhere that even if the Chiefs played very good football they could still start 1-4 due to the difficulty level (Falcons, Saints, Chargers, Ravens). Whether they play hard and well and still lose, or suck ass and still lose, 1-4 is still a possibility. The key for the Chiefs isn't the start, it's the finish. Bucs, Raiders twice, Bengals, Browns, Colts... along with the Bills (who they should beat), that's 7 wins without too much trouble. After this opening stretch the two toughest games are at Pitt (who looked like ass in week one) and the Panthers at Arrowhead (where they're very beatable). Even if the Chargers and Broncos are better, the Chiefs can still take a game from them easily due to familiarity.

Douche Baggins
09-11-2012, 11:55 PM
Bucs, Raiders twice, Bengals, Browns, Colts... along with the Bills (who they should beat), that's 7 wins without too much trouble.

LMAO

Because we always beat every shitty team...and we ALWAYS beat Oakland.

We'll be fortunate to take 5 of those.

NJChiefsFan
09-12-2012, 12:51 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Qf2Uu.jpg

What are you hiding? What did Cassel do against the Bills before 1960? I bet he killed it.

Douche Baggins
09-12-2012, 12:59 AM
I said we would be 1-4 so yeah, I think we could be 0-5.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/155/594/yesitis2.gif

B_Ambuehl
09-12-2012, 01:16 AM
The bucs may end up being one of the toughest wins of that opening stretch. They appear much MUCH improved.

Guru
09-12-2012, 01:42 AM
@ Buffalo (KC is 0-5 in the last 20 years when on the road at Buffalo; last win in 1986)
@ New Orleans (KC is 3-2 all time in New Orleans; Last win in 1994)
San Diego (2-3 vs SD at Arrowhead in last five years)
Baltimore (0-2 vs Baltimore combined regular and postseason)
@ Tampa Bay (1-4 all time at Tampa; last win in 1976).



I don't think this bodes very well for KC...

Pretty sure we beat Tampa in Tampa when Joe Montana was here.

Yep we did.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/game_query.cgi?tm1=kan&tm2=tam&yr=all

By the way, we are 2-3 against Tampa in Tampa and we are 3-3 against the Ravens regular and post season.

New World Order
09-12-2012, 02:33 AM
The bucs may end up being one of the toughest wins of that opening stretch. They appear much MUCH improved.



They spent money in FA, imagine that.


I am hoping for 0-5, in fact I am hoping we lose every single week, that way this beat crap teams and get blown out by contenders will be over.

Raiderhater58
09-12-2012, 05:13 AM
I do hope cheap shot Stevie leaves the game on a stretcher.

OMG!! THIS!!! We can lose 80-0 IF Mr Berry or anyone for that matter gets some revenge on this motherfucker!!

PhillyChiefFan
09-12-2012, 05:16 AM
I will never understand why we are so far under the cap when there are so many glaring problems. That's my issue. If Pioli and Co are fired following this season, we have to hold out hope that Clark hires a quality GM and probably HC AND opens his wallet to attract players who can take the chiefs to the next level INCLUDING a top flight QB...that's a tall order.

9-7, 4-12, 2-14, 4-12, 10-6, 7-9, ????

Rebuild...tear down...rebuild...teardown...wash, rinse, repeat.

Nzoner
09-12-2012, 05:58 AM
Pretty sure we beat Tampa in Tampa when Joe Montana was here.

Yep we did.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/game_query.cgi?tm1=kan&tm2=tam&yr=all

By the way, we are 2-3 against Tampa in Tampa and we are 3-3 against the Ravens regular and post season.

Glad I decided to read the whole thread because when finished my next move was to look it up as well because I knew those stats had to be wrong.

Micjones
09-12-2012, 06:38 AM
This team won't be 0-5.

htismaqe
09-12-2012, 06:45 AM
This team won't be 0-5.

Right now they need to be worried about not being 0-2.

They're on the road, against a team that WAXED them last year. And Buffalo is a team coming off a horrible loss, wanting redemption, but without a couple of key starters.

The Chiefs HAVE to win this game. If they don't, the season is officially off the tracks...

BoneKrusher
09-12-2012, 06:48 AM
Right now they need to be worried about not being 0-2.

They're on the road, against a team that WAXED them last year. And Buffalo is a team coming off a horrible loss, wanting redemption, but without a couple of key starters.

The Chiefs HAVE to win this game. If they don't, the season is officially off the tracks...

i think the Chiefs are in trouble unless they finally figured out how to cover Tight Ends.

Micjones
09-12-2012, 07:32 AM
Right now they need to be worried about not being 0-2.

They're on the road, against a team that WAXED them last year. And Buffalo is a team coming off a horrible loss, wanting redemption, but without a couple of key starters.

The Chiefs HAVE to win this game. If they don't, the season is officially off the tracks...

I honestly think they will win this game.

beach tribe
09-12-2012, 07:35 AM
Any word on Flowers?
Lewis?
It could be a big difference without Flowers especially. Reeves is Gawd Awful.

Micjones
09-12-2012, 07:41 AM
Any word on Flowers?
Lewis?
It could be a big difference without Flowers especially. Reeves is Gawd Awful.

Daniels should play if Flowers still can't go.

htismaqe
09-12-2012, 07:41 AM
I honestly think they will win this game.

We thought the same thing last year, when they had the Bills at Arrowhead.

I would love to say that I have hope but this is precisely the kind of game where the Chiefs of the last few years lay a big egg.

Douche Baggins
09-12-2012, 07:45 AM
There is a problem with the scheme, and Flowers coming back isn't going to fix it.

For fuck's sake, we had Berry playing up around the line of scrimmage half the time Sunday. Go and look at the game again. He's constantly blitzing or playing a short zone.

There's no friggin' way we should have been doing that considering our CB situation and lack of pass rush.


Every time we play a team that spreads us out we get roasted:

2010: Houston, Denver, San Diego, Baltimore (Flacco threw 34 times)

2011: Buffalo, Detroit, the Colts for a half, Miami, New England...Rivers threw it all over us again...we only avoided a sweep due due to a miracle.

2012: Atlanta


Romeo is COMPLETELY overrated as a defensive mind around here. And now he can't even focus fully on that. It shows.

There were plays Sunday that had nothing to do with Jacques Reeves or lack of pass rush.

Buffalo is judgment day for these fuckers. If they can't beat that shit team, stick a fork in this farcical regime.

mcaj22
09-12-2012, 07:46 AM
Daniels should play if Flowers still can't go.

Daniels DOES play.

at FS. Fat fuck Romeo wont move him and Fat Fuck Scott wont sign a 2nd string TRUE FS to back up a hurt Lewis


that's why this team sucks, the GM and the Coach are fat fuck idiots

mcaj22
09-12-2012, 07:48 AM
There is a problem with the scheme, and Flowers coming back isn't going to fix it.

For ****'s sake, we had Berry playing up around the line of scrimmage half the time Sunday. Go and look at the game again. He's constantly blitzing or playing a short zone.

There's no friggin' way we should have been doing that considering our CB situation and lack of pass rush.


Every time we play a team that spreads us out we get roasted:

2010: Houston, Denver, San Diego, Baltimore (Flacco threw 34 times)

2011: Buffalo, Detroit, the Colts for a half, Miami, New England...Rivers threw it all over us again...we only avoided a sweep due due to a miracle.

2012: Atlanta


Romeo is COMPLETELY overrated as a defensive mind around here. And now he can't even focus fully on that. It shows.

There were plays Sunday that had nothing to do with Jacques Reeves or lack of pass rush.

Buffalo is judgment day for these ****ers. If they can't beat that shit team, stick a fork in this farcical regime.


It's the safety situation that's worse than the CB situation.

Lewis is hurt, they play Berry as a freelance LBer and Elam and Daniels are terrible in the backend at FS and SS that it is a liability for everything else.

Berry at phantom LBer probably wouldnt be bad if we had Lewis at centerfield but Ill be damned if the combo of Elam and Daniels might be dumber and slower than McGraw + Sabby lol

Douche Baggins
09-12-2012, 07:49 AM
The Berry phantom thing is stupid as hell.

Reminds me of Gunther and the Falcon.

mcaj22
09-12-2012, 07:52 AM
that's why i dont blame the players, i blame the shithead coaches and the FO.

Ace Gunner
09-12-2012, 07:54 AM
There is a problem with the scheme, and Flowers coming back isn't going to fix it.

For ****'s sake, we had Berry playing up around the line of scrimmage half the time Sunday. Go and look at the game again. He's constantly blitzing or playing a short zone.

There's no friggin' way we should have been doing that considering our CB situation and lack of pass rush.


Every time we play a team that spreads us out we get roasted:

2010: Houston, Denver, San Diego, Baltimore (Flacco threw 34 times)

2011: Buffalo, Detroit, the Colts for a half, Miami, New England...Rivers threw it all over us again...we only avoided a sweep due due to a miracle.

2012: Atlanta


Romeo is COMPLETELY overrated as a defensive mind around here. And now he can't even focus fully on that. It shows.

There were plays Sunday that had nothing to do with Jacques Reeves or lack of pass rush.

Buffalo is judgment day for these ****ers. If they can't beat that shit team, stick a fork in this farcical regime.

What was the score of that Detriot game last season when RC was DC only?

And that Buffalo game score?

And the year before when RC was DC only?

When Crennel has good players in his front seven, he has gotten rings and recognition for shutting down the best -- Peyton etc.

It's coaching, sure Wendler...

No, it's players. The socalled "stars" like DJ are the ones that are overrated.

htismaqe
09-12-2012, 07:56 AM
What was the score of that Detriot game last season when RC was DC only?

And that Buffalo game score?

And the year before when RC was DC only?

When Crennel has good players in his front seven, he has gotten rings and recognition for shutting down the best -- Peyton etc.

It's coaching, sure Wendler...

No, it's players. The socalled "stars" like DJ are the ones that are overrated.

Methinks you failed to adequately comprehend what he was saying...

mcaj22
09-12-2012, 07:58 AM
so youre saying that in the front 7 we only have one difference maker that masks RAC's crap outdated scheme in Tamba Hali

so all those first round picks on d-line, and no other talent falls on Pioli being ****ing awful to not add any play makers in FOUR ****ING YEARS

it's really really sad we rely on 1 player that much. No other team in the NFL does that.

Chiefshrink
09-12-2012, 07:59 AM
This team let a missed FG effect their momentum and "lost focus" after getting down by 10 at home. So yeah, 0-5 is possible, especially if we lose to Buffalo.

Yep ! Hangin by a thread and we needed every pt we could muster and the team exposed their own lack confidence at that point as a team and the meltdown was on.

htismaqe
09-12-2012, 07:59 AM
Romeo is COMPLETELY overrated as a defensive mind around here. And now he can't even focus fully on that. It shows.

They were talking about this on the radio yesterday.

Haley was his own OC year 1 and it was a disaster. They brought in Charlie Weis and it worked for the most part.

In year 3, Haley installed a puppet (from what we can tell) and resumed his control of the offense, which was again a disaster.

After what this team just went through, WHY THE FUCK are they allowing RAC to be HC and DC? Are they stubborn, stupid, or both?

Douche Baggins
09-12-2012, 08:06 AM
It's coaching, sure Wendler...

No, it's players. The socalled "stars" like DJ are the ones that are overrated.

It's BOTH.

ChiTown
09-12-2012, 08:08 AM
After what this team just went through, WHY THE **** are they allowing RAC to be HC and DC? Are they stubborn, stupid, or both?

The Chiefs are the Royals, except they actually aren't hampered by revenues. That has not stopped them from being absolutely retarded from the Ownership and Management levels (Re: Royals Franchise)

Ace Gunner
09-12-2012, 08:09 AM
Methinks you failed to adequately comprehend what he was saying...

me thinks this post is useless. thx for sharing tho.

stonedstooge
09-12-2012, 08:10 AM
They were talking about this on the radio yesterday.

Haley was his own OC year 1 and it was a disaster. They brought in Charlie Weis and it worked for the most part.

In year 3, Haley installed a puppet (from what we can tell) and resumed his control of the offense, which was again a disaster.

After what this team just went through, WHY THE **** are they allowing RAC to be HC and DC? Are they stubborn, stupid, or both?

Saves money.

Ace Gunner
09-12-2012, 08:17 AM
It's BOTH.

I was not elated in some of the DC calls during last week's slaughter, but those calls did not have an effect on how poorly key players in that front seven played.

This is an extension of pre season analysis by most of us. The defense collapsed during the Rams game and we all are reeling from what has transpired since.

If a defense can't even look decent playing vanilla, that is just bad players, man.

Crennel is known for his DL development -- I believe Poe showed fans what good coaching can do for a young stud. Get them some more studs, then we can talk about coaching. But I'm pretty sure we won't need to. Just need time to develop better players up front.

Ace Gunner
09-12-2012, 08:22 AM
They were talking about this on the radio yesterday.

Haley was his own OC year 1 and it was a disaster. They brought in Charlie Weis and it worked for the most part.

In year 3, Haley installed a puppet (from what we can tell) and resumed his control of the offense, which was again a disaster.

After what this team just went through, WHY THE **** are they allowing RAC to be HC and DC? Are they stubborn, stupid, or both?

I agree this franchise needs to be more active getting good coaches in here. To me, that is on Clark Hunt and his tight budget, since coaching salaries are not part of the cap.

htismaqe
09-12-2012, 08:27 AM
me thinks this post is useless. thx for sharing tho.

No, the useless post was the one where you disagreed with him even though he was saying the exact thing you said.

No problem, I expected to be attacked. That's what people who are confused do.

htismaqe
09-12-2012, 08:29 AM
I was not elated in some of the DC calls during last week's slaughter, but those calls did not have an effect on how poorly key players in that front seven played.

This is an extension of pre season analysis by most of us. The defense collapsed during the Rams game and we all are reeling from what has transpired since.

If a defense can't even look decent playing vanilla, that is just bad players, man.

Crennel is known for his DL development -- I believe Poe showed fans what good coaching can do for a young stud. Get them some more studs, then we can talk about coaching. But I'm pretty sure we won't need to. Just need time to develop better players up front.

Because Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey "just need more time". :rolleyes:

Ace Gunner
09-12-2012, 08:45 AM
No, the useless post was the one where you disagreed with him even though he was saying the exact thing you said.

No problem, I expected to be attacked. That's what people who are confused do.

meh, no. This is another useless post.

Wendler wants new coaches/staff, I want better players and time to develop them.

He cites reasons for his angle, I criticize them, then give my angle. Rinse and repeat. That is what we do here.

Douche Baggins
09-12-2012, 08:46 AM
Wendler wants new coaches/staff, I want better players and time to develop them.


I want BOTH.

And so should YOU.

This team isn't winning SHIT with Crennel and Cassel.

htismaqe
09-12-2012, 08:46 AM
meh, no. This is another useless post.

Wendler wants new coaches/staff, I want better players and time to develop them.

He cites reasons for his angle, I criticize them, then give my angle. Rinse and repeat. That is what we do here.

You still have absolutely no clue what I was talking about. The central point of his post still escapes you.

Do you want me to explain it and end this? Or do you want to continue babbling on like an idiot?

King_Chief_Fan
09-12-2012, 08:50 AM
quite possible to go 0-5.
A win at Bufalo will make it 1-4.

Ace Gunner
09-12-2012, 09:00 AM
Because Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey "just need more time". :rolleyes:

No. They will get Poe going at Dorsey's position when they can. They need a guy there with a motor. A guy that can run down a QB but is also stout enough to stuff the run. That is why they planned to have Poe at RDE.

Dorsey is narrowly effective stopping the run & he has no motor. That is a weakside position, so you want your pass rushers at that RDE position, however deviated the technique is compared to 43RDE.

Tyson Jackson plays the strongside which is a whole different position with different techniques. He's playing okay, has better talent matching the position than Dorsey -- you never see Dorsey play LDE.

TJ has played better each season and does get pressure occasionally. I did not notice TJ during the game because the Falcons attacked Dorsey/DJ pretty much every time they ran the ball. Of course, this indicates the respect TJ gets by opposing OC's as this has been the trend. He needs to take it to the next level now and it needs to happen this season. We shall see.

Ace Gunner
09-12-2012, 09:03 AM
You still have absolutely no clue what I was talking about. The central point of his post still escapes you.

Do you want me to explain it and end this? Or do you want to continue babbling on like an idiot?

No. And don't interrupt my conversations with your drivel anymore:D

MIAdragon
09-12-2012, 09:06 AM
Because Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey "just need more time". :rolleyes:

http://cache1.bigcartel.com/product_images/67466617/It_s_a_process_jason_garrett_Dallas_Cowboys_Jerry_Jones_shirt_shirts_t_shirt_Mark_Elfenbein_Jane_Sla ter_105_3_the_fan_sports_talk.jpg

Ace Gunner
09-12-2012, 09:06 AM
I want BOTH.

And so should YOU.

This team isn't winning SHIT with Crennel and Cassel.

Honestly Wendler I could care less whether the staff is turned. If you recall years ago, I often posted this franchise was going to need 2 or perhaps 3 or more staffs to get it turned around. To me, that is a huge undertaking.

Anyway, Pioli is on my shitlist for being Clark's poop partner, so I'm kind of hoping this thing blows sky high:D

TEX
09-12-2012, 09:24 AM
They were talking about this on the radio yesterday.

Haley was his own OC year 1 and it was a disaster. They brought in Charlie Weis and it worked for the most part.

In year 3, Haley installed a puppet (from what we can tell) and resumed his control of the offense, which was again a disaster.

After what this team just went through, WHY THE **** are they allowing RAC to be HC and DC? Are they stubborn, stupid, or both?

Exactly. The answer is BOTH! I was thinking that the second RAC said he would do both. :shake:

DBOSHO
09-12-2012, 09:28 AM
We beat buffalo, with or without flowers, but only if routt plays on johnson.

beach tribe
09-12-2012, 09:39 AM
Right now they need to be worried about not being 0-2.

They're on the road, against a team that WAXED them last year. And Buffalo is a team coming off a horrible loss, wanting redemption, but without a couple of key starters.

The Chiefs HAVE to win this game. If they don't, the season is officially off the tracks...

We are coming off a huge loss and want redemption as well.
Buffalo is 3-14 in their last 17 games. That is atrocious. Yet people around here like to suck their dicks.

3 and fucking 14.

We better win this fucking game.
I know they smoked us last season, but they have played a lot worse than we have since that happened.

Chiefnj2
09-12-2012, 09:40 AM
This might be the best 0-5 Chiefs team of the last 30 years.

beach tribe
09-12-2012, 09:40 AM
Honestly Wendler I could care less whether the staff is turned. If you recall years ago, I often posted this franchise was going to need 2 or perhaps 3 or more staffs to get it turned around. To me, that is a huge undertaking.

Anyway, Pioli is on my shitlist for being Clark's poop partner, so I'm kind of hoping this thing blows sky high:D
Hoping for failure. Awesome.

L.A. Chieffan
09-12-2012, 09:40 AM
I want BOTH.

And so should YOU.

This team isn't winning SHIT with Crennel and Cassel.

Your choice to be a fan bub.

TEX
09-12-2012, 09:41 AM
I agree this franchise needs to be more active getting good coaches in here. To me, that is on Clark Hunt and his tight budget, since coaching salaries are not part of the cap.

To me it's why Pioli FAILS. HC and QB are THE most important decisions a GM makes. Everything else is the sum of those two parts. He's missed on both, and on one twice. NFL Executive of the year my ass. He thinks Cassel is good or knows he's not and is too stubborn to do anything about it.

Meanwhile, Elway has rebuilt Denver in half the time it's taken Pioli in KC. Denver did not kid themselves about their QB. They knew his limitations and did something about it. And they did it after winning a playoff game. They KNOW the inportance of a franchise QB. Also got themselves a pretty solid HC.

L.A. Chieffan
09-12-2012, 09:41 AM
This might be the best 0-5 Chiefs team of the last 30 years.

Not gonna happen

beach tribe
09-12-2012, 09:42 AM
Do you want me to explain it and end this? Or do you want to continue babbling on like an idiot?

Don't waste your time. The guy is dumber than a Kardashian.

beach tribe
09-12-2012, 09:43 AM
To me it's why Pioli FAILS. HC and QB are THE most important decisions a GM makes. Everything else is the sum of those two parts. He's missed on both, and on one twice. NFL Executive of the year my ass. He thinks Cassel is good or knows he's not and is too stubborn to do anything about it.

Meanwhile, Elway has rebuilt Denver in half the time it's taken Pioli in KC. Denver did not kid themselves about their QB. They knew his limitations and did something about it. And they did it after winning a playoff game. They KNOW the inportance of a franchise QB. Also got themselves a pretty solid HC.

Denver won their season opener. Crown em'

htismaqe
09-12-2012, 09:43 AM
Your choice to be a fan bub.

So now we know who answers Tweets for the Chiefs...

htismaqe
09-12-2012, 09:45 AM
We are coming off a huge loss and want redemption as well.
Buffalo is 3-14 in their last 17 games. That is atrocious. Yet people around here like to suck their dicks.

3 and ****ing 14.

We better win this ****ing game.
I know they smoked us last season, but they have played a lot worse than we have since that happened.

You dismiss the part in bold as if it's the least-significant part of your post.

However, it happens to be the MOST-significant part.

L.A. Chieffan
09-12-2012, 09:47 AM
You dismiss the part in bold as if it's the least-significant part of your post.

However, it happens to be the MOST-significant part.

Last year dont mean anything

beach tribe
09-12-2012, 09:59 AM
You dismiss the part in bold as if it's the least-significant part of your post.

However, it happens to be the MOST-significant part.

It was over a full year ago. I don't think it holds as much water as you do.

TEX
09-12-2012, 10:00 AM
Denver won their season opener. Crown em'

Not my point. In that vicotory you saw good coaching and QB play. In other words you can see the recipe to win many more. If not, you're blind or just don't want to admit it.

htismaqe
09-12-2012, 10:04 AM
It was over a full year ago. I don't think it holds as much water as you do.

If it was a solitary occurrence, it wouldn't be nearly as relevant as it is.

This is exactly the type of game the Chiefs lose.

Ace Gunner
09-12-2012, 10:38 AM
To me it's why Pioli FAILS. HC and QB are THE most important decisions a GM makes. Everything else is the sum of those two parts. He's missed on both, and on one twice. NFL Executive of the year my ass. He thinks Cassel is good or knows he's not and is too stubborn to do anything about it.

Meanwhile, Elway has rebuilt Denver in half the time it's taken Pioli in KC. Denver did not kid themselves about their QB. They knew his limitations and did something about it. And they did it after winning a playoff game. They KNOW the inportance of a franchise QB. Also got themselves a pretty solid HC.

When did Denver have a 27 - 56 five season stretch? They didn't. The Chiefs are not at all like the Denver Broncos. Not even close.

During the past 15 years they have won playoff games and championships. Meanwhile, during that same stretch, the Chiefs are like 60 - 170 which is just about worst in the league and is worst in the AFC.

This job in KC is not for sissies like Elway.

Molitoth
09-12-2012, 10:38 AM
This might be the best 0-5 Chiefs team of the last 30 years.

That is why there is so much meltdown so early in the season.

They showed us in the last 3 games of last season that they had talent. We all know this team is loaded with talented skill positions. (Except the most important one). Even at that, I had high hopes for Cassel this year. I was thinking Cassel just may surprise everyone, and I'm one of his biggest critics around here. With this talent, he has no excuse.

They had a great (and full) offseason on paper. The loss of Carr was sad, but Routt is a decent replacement, and the o-line should be stout.

Then they come out and look amazing against Arizona. This was the team we expected and should expect to be representing our city. This got everyone excited for the season.

Then 3 disgusting pre-season games and a turd for an opener (when Arrowhead is at its best).

We all SHOULD have high expectations for this team and organization. They have teased us all offseason and through the first preseason game and now they are deciding to sh*t the bed. It's inexcusable.

There are some major things that need a fixing:
1) QB. I don't care how decent Cassel plays... his reputation around the league and media is that he sucks. I do not think anyone outside of Scott Pioli and a few retarded fans have much faith in the guy to play the most important position on the field.
2) Scheme. Our defense leaves the middle of the field open all day long and does not generate much pass rush. I cannot judge Daboll yet, but I've been pleasantly surprised at the lack of predictability on the playcalling side... which is a drastic change from Haley/Muir.
3) GM. Pioli lives or dies with Cassel. He's chosen to keep him here for far too long. If he doesn't choose a QB in the 1st round next year, out the motherf*cking door, bitch.
4) Owner. Next year there is a min salary cap? This may force him to spend money.

saphojunkie
09-12-2012, 10:49 AM
I want BOTH.

And so should YOU.

This team isn't winning SHIT with Crennel and Cassel.

So let me ask you...

If Crennel benches Cassel purely for his level of play, and at the end of the year, Pioli fires Crennel, hires a new coach outside the Patriots tree (which, for the record, he already did), and trades up for a QB in the draft...

Are you happy with Pioli? At least enough to not be calling for his head? How much time would that buy him?


What if they bench Cassel, Pioli keeps Crennel, but they cut Cassel in the offseason and still trade up/draft a QB? And let's say that QB is the apparent best in the class. No Landry Jones nonsense.

What then?

htismaqe
09-12-2012, 10:51 AM
So let me ask you...

If Crennel benches Cassel purely for his level of play, and at the end of the year, Pioli fires Crennel, hires a new coach outside the Patriots tree (which, for the record, he already did), and trades up for a QB in the draft...

Are you happy with Pioli? At least enough to not be calling for his head? How much time would that buy him?

And let's say that QB is the apparent best in the class.

It's a start.

Not sure where you're getting that he's hired outside of the tree though...

Dave Lane
09-12-2012, 11:06 AM
Technically yes, practically no.

Discuss Thrower
09-12-2012, 11:08 AM
Who would've thought, homer and drafturbater alike, that the Chiefs' season would be deep-sixed before the second home game?

I mean, if you predicted 7-9 or better there would be some expectation that the bulk of those wins wouldn't come in a 4+ consecutive fashion.

Yiiiiiiiikes.

saphojunkie
09-12-2012, 11:10 AM
It's a start.

Not sure where you're getting that he's hired outside of the tree though...

I consider Haley outside the Belichick tree. He's a Parcells guy, but at the Jets. That to me isn't the same as coaches who rode the Brady/Belichick coat tails.

milkman
09-12-2012, 11:18 AM
DJ has reverted to the same inconsistent player that he was prior to '09.

A soft coach like Romeo Crennel wasn't the one responsible for bringing out the best in DJ.

htismaqe
09-12-2012, 11:27 AM
I consider Haley outside the Belichick tree. He's a Parcells guy, but at the Jets. That to me isn't the same as coaches who rode the Brady/Belichick coat tails.

I see.

Of course the argument could be made that Belichick is part of the Parcells tree rather than the root of his own tree...

kaplin42
09-12-2012, 11:29 AM
Sky is falling.


Should beat the Bills, Saints didn't look good at all, Chargers are the Chargers.


Ravens are a tough one.

We say this every year, but...

Sunday’s contest marks the 44th matchup between the Chiefs and Bills. Kansas City has gone 18-24-1 (.430) against the Bills, including a 6-13-1 mark in games played in Buffalo. The teams are set to play for the fifth consecutive season, but the first time at Ralph Wilson Stadium since 2005.

The Bills have won at Arrowhead Stadium in three of the last four years. Two seasons ago on Oct. 31, 2010, the Chiefs defeated the Bills 13-10 on a 35-yard fi eld goal by K Ryan Succop on the last play of overtime.
LINK (http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article-2/Chiefs-vs-Bills---Game-2/8105fcfd-1bac-461b-8ccd-932a76db346f)

Problem is, this team falls to the occaision, bur rarely ever rise. Are we a better team then the Bills, I think so, but will we play like it, not likely.

If Matt Ryan can pass on us all day long, Drew Brees is going to have a field day. Chargers could go either way, their O-line is suspect, same with running game. But if we leave Gates open, they will destroy us.

Ace Gunner
09-12-2012, 11:33 AM
I see.

Of course the argument could be made that Belichick is part of the Parcells tree rather than the root of his own tree...

There is no Belichick coaching tree -- Weis, Romeo, Coughlin and all the others are part of Parcells' coaching tree.

Folks cross thought here -- The Belichick staff is known for a "Dynasty" and folks think that is the same as a coaching tree. It could be -- I would consider the 49er dynasty also related to the Bill Walsh coaching tree. But not the case in Foxboro.

Ace Gunner
09-12-2012, 11:35 AM
DJ has reverted to the same inconsistent player that he was prior to '09.

A soft coach like Romeo Crennel wasn't the one responsible for bringing out the best in DJ.

It's early, but I agree -- DJ has lost it. He had that awesome year and now look at him. Very disappointing. All mental errors.

WhiteWhale
09-12-2012, 11:46 AM
Drama Queens.

Is Tamba Hali out for the whole season, or do you guys just think that all pro pass rushers are negligible to the play of a defense?

Rausch
09-12-2012, 11:47 AM
There is no Belichick coaching tree -- Weis, Romeo, Coughlin and all the others are part of Parcells' coaching tree.


Yes and no.

I agree there is no Hoody coaching tree.

I disagree that it's because they fall under Parcells - it's because the tree stops above the roots. There is no tree if everything above ground is dead (or just fails horribly.)

htismaqe
09-12-2012, 11:48 AM
There is no Belichick coaching tree -- Weis, Romeo, Coughlin and all the others are part of Parcells' coaching tree.

Folks cross thought here -- The Belichick staff is known for a "Dynasty" and folks think that is the same as a coaching tree. It could be -- I would consider the 49er dynasty also related to the Bill Walsh coaching tree. But not the case in Foxboro.

So you would agree with me that Haley actually was part of the "tree" then?

My opinion is that Pioli has yet to hire outside of the tree.

WhiteWhale
09-12-2012, 11:49 AM
DJ has reverted to the same inconsistent player that he was prior to '09.

A soft coach like Romeo Crennel wasn't the one responsible for bringing out the best in DJ.

Oh geezus.

boogblaster
09-12-2012, 11:51 AM
to da broken-limb .....

PGM
09-12-2012, 12:14 PM
If 6 defensive starters are Out/Hobbled every week....sure

whoman69
09-12-2012, 12:58 PM
So you would agree with me that Haley actually was part of the "tree" then?

My opinion is that Pioli has yet to hire outside of the tree.

Haley is part of the tree because he and Pioli worked together in New York. Parcelles tree, Belichick tree, it doesn't matter. Its a Pioli tree.

saphojunkie
09-12-2012, 01:01 PM
Haley is part of the tree because he and Pioli worked together in New York. Parcelles tree, Belichick tree, it doesn't matter. Its a Pioli tree.

There is the Parcells coaching tree, and that's fine.

There is a Belichick branch, though. And that branch does not produce good fruit.

htismaqe
09-12-2012, 01:02 PM
Haley is part of the tree because he and Pioli worked together in New York. Parcelles tree, Belichick tree, it doesn't matter. Its a Pioli tree.

Exactly.

Instead of calling it a "tree" let's call it a comfort zone. I would like to see Pioli hire the best person for the job and get outside his comfort zone.

htismaqe
09-12-2012, 01:03 PM
There is the Parcells coaching tree, and that's fine.

There is a Belichick branch, though. And that branch does not produce good fruit.

It remains to be seen if the branch will continue to even produce fruit once the Brady flower wilts...

Chief Roundup
09-12-2012, 01:50 PM
DJ has reverted to the same inconsistent player that he was prior to '09.

A soft coach like Romeo Crennel wasn't the one responsible for bringing out the best in DJ.

Pretty sure that DJ was playing injured last week. I expect him to be back in form in a couple of weeks.

Douche Baggins
09-12-2012, 03:00 PM
If Crennel benches Cassel purely for his level of play, and at the end of the year, Pioli fires Crennel, hires a new coach outside the Patriots tree (which, for the record, he already did), and trades up for a QB in the draft...

Are you happy with Pioli?

Too little, too late.

NO GM deserves a third head coach.

Sweet Daddy Hate
09-12-2012, 03:29 PM
People are freaking out because we got beat 40-17.

No one expected that.

Not even me.

A win over the Bills doesn't mean shit. Just means we're still good at beating shitty teams, which is all we ever do under this regime.

This.

gblowfish
09-12-2012, 03:33 PM
You can't say the Chiefs "only beat shitty teams" when last year they beat the Packers and broke their undefeated streak. They tend to play to the level of their competition. The thing that worries me about this game v. Buffalo: Buffalo has won 3 out of the last 4 meetings, including kicking our ass last year in Arrowhead on opening day. We've never played well in Buffalo. So if the Chiefs win, I'd say it could certainly be considered an upset.

htismaqe
09-12-2012, 03:40 PM
You can't say the Chiefs "only beat shitty teams" when last year they beat the Packers and broke their undefeated streak. They tend to play to the level of their competition. The thing that worries me about this game v. Buffalo: Buffalo has won 3 out of the last 4 meetings, including kicking our ass last year in Arrowhead on opening day. We've never played well in Buffalo. So if the Chiefs win, I'd say it could certainly be considered an upset.

Exactly.

Douche Baggins
09-12-2012, 03:45 PM
You can't say the Chiefs "only beat shitty teams" when last year they beat the Packers and broke their undefeated streak.

Kyle Orton isn't walking through that door.

We don't "only" beat shitty teams, but mostly that is what we do.

Cassel is 1-9 against playoff teams here.

And there's a good chance we just witnessed loss #10. And we weren't playing to the level of the competition (nor did we at the start of 2011).

Cephalic Trauma
09-12-2012, 03:53 PM
Kyle Orton isn't walking through that door.

We don't "only" beat shitty teams, but mostly that is what we do.

Cassel is 1-9 against playoff teams here.

And there's a good chance we just witnessed loss #10. And we weren't playing to the level of the competition (nor did we at the start of 2011).

Just out of curiosity, why are you still here? You are always on this board, yet you loathe this regime and this team. Why do you still spend countless hours posting the same stuff over and over?

Douche Baggins
09-12-2012, 03:56 PM
Just out of curiosity, why are you still here? You are always on this board, yet you loathe this regime and this team. Why do you still spend countless hours posting the same stuff over and over?

I'm sick in the head. Isn't it obvious by now?

FYI I just loathe the regime. Anything Patriot is bad for us.

whoman69
09-12-2012, 04:28 PM
Exactly.

Instead of calling it a "tree" let's call it a comfort zone. I would like to see Pioli hire the best person for the job and get outside his comfort zone.

Sooner or later he runs out of coaches that have worked with him. Hires should be based on qualification, not who you know.

thurman merman
09-12-2012, 05:58 PM
The Chiefs will beat the ever-living piss out of the Bills.

Spongeblack Bobtard
09-12-2012, 06:00 PM
DJ has reverted to the same inconsistent player that he was prior to '09.

A soft coach like Romeo Crennel wasn't the one responsible for bringing out the best in DJ.

Yes he has and he should hear about it. Good post.:thumb:

Douche Baggins
09-12-2012, 06:01 PM
The Chiefs will beat the ever-living piss out of the Bills.

Signed,

2011, Week 1.

Spongeblack Bobtard
09-12-2012, 06:01 PM
It's early, but I agree -- DJ has lost it. He had that awesome year and now look at him. Very disappointing. All mental errors.

Worst post EVER!!! LMAO j/k

Molitoth
09-12-2012, 06:29 PM
there is a difference between having a bad game or two and being consistantly bad.
Derrick Johnson has not been bad on a consistent basis.

thurman merman
09-12-2012, 07:54 PM
Signed,

2011, Week 1.

Signed,

Eric Berry is back.

Coogs
09-12-2012, 08:01 PM
Just out of curiosity, why are you still here? You are always on this board, yet you loathe this regime and this team. Why do you still spend countless hours posting the same stuff over and over?

The same stuff over and over happens to be spot on this summer. Unfortunately, some here refuse to accept the reality to what Clay is trying to get across.

Douche Baggins
09-12-2012, 10:12 PM
Signed,

Eric Berry is back.

Signed,

He was back last week. LMAO

Guru
09-13-2012, 02:32 AM
Signed,

He was back last week. LMAO

He was?