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Rain Man
09-14-2012, 09:53 AM
I don't follow anything but pro football, but I heard a stats about a fellow named Johnathan Gray, who is a freshman at the University of Texas this year.

He apparently set the high school career record for touchdowns last year, with 205.

205 touchdowns? Really? Wow.

His senior year, he scored 70 touchdowns. 65 rushing, 5 receiving, in 16 games. So he averaged 4.4 touchdowns per game. (And interestingly, that wasn't a single-season record, which stands at 71.)

I can't find his other years' stats, but if he played 16 games every season, he averaged 3.2 touchdowns per game for four years.

His senior year, he ran the ball 346 times for 3906 yards, averaging 11.3 yards per carry and 244 yards per game. He added 21 receptions for another 480 yards, averaging 22.9 yards per receptions.

I guess his coach decided to ride the best horse to victory, but that seems insane in many ways. Insane in how often he was used, and insane in his production. It'll be interesting to see if he can keep up the pace in college.

bowener
09-14-2012, 09:59 AM
Meh. /cp
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I watched over half that video (pretty boring). I never really saw him plant his foot and change direction at all... of course he didn't really have to or anything. He just looks like a sprinter; upright and fast as fuck.

Deberg_1990
09-14-2012, 10:00 AM
Good thing he didnt go over 400 carries.

htismaqe
09-14-2012, 10:03 AM
Meh. /cp
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What was that coach thinking on that 2nd play?

Having him run a 15-yard touchdown and dragging down his average. Totally insensitive...

Rain Man
09-14-2012, 10:19 AM
Meh. /cp


I watched over half that video (pretty boring). I never really saw him plant his foot and change direction at all... of course he didn't really have to or anything. He just looks like a sprinter; upright and fast as ****.

That was a nifty delayed handoff at 3:58, and I thought the inadvertently delayed handoff at 6:15 was kind of funny.

He made some good runs, but you're right that a lot of those long touchdowns were flat-out sprints through massive holes. Maybe that's just how long touchdowns typically work, though.

HemiEd
09-14-2012, 10:19 AM
HS football in Texas IS insane.

I was recently down there attending my Grandson's HS graduation and saw a HS football stadium that would do many Div 1 Universities proud.

CoMoChief
09-14-2012, 10:23 AM
Who's that freshman QB for TXAM? Forget his name but they put his HS stats up on the TV screen in between plays and I remember thinking "holy shit".

Texas HS football is indeed insane.

Planetman
09-14-2012, 10:26 AM
Pfffttt!!! I scored 4 touchdowns in 1 game!!!
http://photos1.blogger.com/img/209/4518/1024/al065b.jpg

CoMoChief
09-14-2012, 10:28 AM
Who's that freshman QB for TXAM? Forget his name but they put his HS stats up on the TV screen in between plays and I remember thinking "holy shit".

Texas HS football is indeed insane.

Johnny Manziel is his name, just looked it up. Just in his Sr HS season the guy threw for 3600 yrds 66comp%, 45 TD's 5 INT's, and ran for 1670 more yrds and 30 TD's while avg almost 10ypc.

75 TD's in one season....That's nuckin futs.

DJ's left nut
09-14-2012, 10:41 AM
His Rivals profile:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Johnathan-Gray-103880

BTW: Even better stat line for Mizzou's incoming quarterback, Maty Mauk:

382/566, 5,413 yds passing, 68 TDs. In addition he had 241 carries for 1,768 yards and 24 more touchdowns.

That's right - over 7,000 yards of total offense and a staggering 92 touchdowns. And he wasn't much worse than that in 2010 when he threw for 5600 yds, 69 TDs and rushed for 16 more.

He's the most prolific quarterback in HS football history.

Bump
09-14-2012, 10:44 AM
Al Bundy holds that record I believe

CoMoChief
09-14-2012, 10:46 AM
His Rivals profile:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Johnathan-Gray-103880

BTW: Even better stat line for Mizzou's incoming quarterback, Maty Mauk:

382/566, 5,413 yds passing, 68 TDs. In addition he had 241 carries for 1,768 yards and 24 more touchdowns.

That's right - over 7,000 yards of total offense and a staggering 92 touchdowns. And he wasn't much worse than that in 2010 when he threw for 5600 yds, 69 TDs and rushed for 16 more.

He's the most prolific quarterback in HS football history.

LMAO holy shit

HemiEd
09-14-2012, 10:47 AM
His Rivals profile:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Johnathan-Gray-103880

BTW: Even better stat line for Mizzou's incoming quarterback, Maty Mauk:

382/566, 5,413 yds passing, 68 TDs. In addition he had 241 carries for 1,768 yards and 24 more touchdowns.

That's right - over 7,000 yards of total offense and a staggering 92 touchdowns. And he wasn't much worse than that in 2010 when he threw for 5600 yds, 69 TDs and rushed for 16 more.

He's the most prolific quarterback in HS football history..

Rain Man
09-14-2012, 10:58 AM
Can we draft some of these guys now?

I've always thought it would be interesting if NFL teams could draft anybody, not just the guys who are graduating. Really promising college freshman? Take him in the fifth. Superstar 8th-grader? Throw a 7th-round pick on him. Maybe you expand the draft back to about 15 rounds, so you can sign that 8th-grader really late and pay him $40,000 a year until he becomes eligible. It's a win-win situation, and it would expand interest in college and high school football if you could watch a Chiefs draft pick during the college or high school season.

saphojunkie
09-14-2012, 11:07 AM
His Rivals profile:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Johnathan-Gray-103880

BTW: Even better stat line for Mizzou's incoming quarterback, Maty Mauk:

382/566, 5,413 yds passing, 68 TDs. In addition he had 241 carries for 1,768 yards and 24 more touchdowns.

That's right - over 7,000 yards of total offense and a staggering 92 touchdowns. And he wasn't much worse than that in 2010 when he threw for 5600 yds, 69 TDs and rushed for 16 more.

He's the most prolific quarterback in HS football history.

In all seriousness, and I know I'm a Jayhawk, but WTF is wrong with Mizzou football? You guys get so many great players. NFL players! Not just great in college. Why the hell can't you ever pay this off? I just don't understand why they weren't up there with Texas every year. It makes no sense.

BTW you also have one of the most prolific HS wide receivers coming in also. If you can't make it happen with those two, just cancel the program.

Luke Warm
09-14-2012, 11:08 AM
Pfffttt!!! I scored 4 touchdowns in 1 game!!!
http://photos1.blogger.com/img/209/4518/1024/al065b.jpg

Nuff said!

DJ's left nut
09-14-2012, 11:22 AM
In all seriousness, and I know I'm a Jayhawk, but WTF is wrong with Mizzou football? You guys get so many great players. NFL players! Not just great in college. Why the hell can't you ever pay this off? I just don't understand why they weren't up there with Texas every year. It makes no sense.

BTW you also have one of the most prolific HS wide receivers coming in also. If you can't make it happen with those two, just cancel the program.

Don't think Mizzou fans don't ask these same questions.

If Yost can't develop a premier offense around Mauk and DGB, we need to move on.

But also - let's be honest, we had a #1 ranked squad that ended the season in the top 5 when we had our most premier players (Maclin, Daniel, Spoon, Hood, Moore, Coffman, etc...). It's not like we went out there and won 5 games. When Mizzou had it's premium talent, it had some great seasons. It also had its best coordinator in Christensen whereas Yost just isn't that good.

Now compare our talent to the talent that is winning titles in Alabama, LSU, Florida, etc... and you can see that while Mizzou's was great, those guys were just a little bit better.

loochy
09-14-2012, 11:30 AM
My wife graduated from Aledo. We've gone to see plenty of their games and I've seen plenty of Jonathan Gray. Even in the state championship games, nobody can touch him. He was really just unstoppable. However, he's not exactly big and I don't know how long he can last at the college level. He got a few carries last week in a blowout win against New Mexico.

loochy
09-14-2012, 11:31 AM
Fun trivia: the girl that Bobby Petrino was messing around with and crashed a motorcycle with also went to this school.

Deberg_1990
09-14-2012, 11:37 AM
My wife graduated from Aledo. We've gone to see plenty of their games and I've seen plenty of Jonathan Gray. Even in the state championship games, nobody can touch him. He was really just unstoppable. However, he's not exactly big and I don't know how long he can last at the college level. He got a few carries last week in a blowout win against New Mexico.

I believe UT has him rotating with Malcolm Brown who was another top Texas recruit and whos a bigger back. Either way, it’s a pretty nice backfield they have. Wouldn’t surprise me if they both get drafted in a few years.

loochy
09-14-2012, 11:38 AM
I believe UT has him rotating with Malcolm Brown who was another top Texas recruit and whos a bigger back. Either way, it’s a pretty nice backfield they have. Wouldn’t surprise me if they both get drafted in a few years.

I dunno man...they need to put some meat on him or he's gonna be broken in half in 2 years. I worry that the extra weight will kill his speed burst.

Also, I think his dad was some sort of stud RB for Texas Tech back in the day.

One more trivia tidbit: The Aledo school district gave Gray's mom a job at the school so he could attend their school and play football.

Mr. Plow
09-14-2012, 11:42 AM
His Rivals profile:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Johnathan-Gray-103880

BTW: Even better stat line for Mizzou's incoming quarterback, Maty Mauk:

382/566, 5,413 yds passing, 68 TDs. In addition he had 241 carries for 1,768 yards and 24 more touchdowns.

That's right - over 7,000 yards of total offense and a staggering 92 touchdowns. And he wasn't much worse than that in 2010 when he threw for 5600 yds, 69 TDs and rushed for 16 more.

He's the most prolific quarterback in HS football history.


Wow!

Amnorix
09-14-2012, 11:44 AM
Meh. /cp
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I watched over half that video (pretty boring). I never really saw him plant his foot and change direction at all... of course he didn't really have to or anything. He just looks like a sprinter; upright and fast as fuck.


I really like the offensive lineman who dives to tackle the ankle of the would-be defender at the :44 second mark. Uhh...yeah, that's not legal.

loochy
09-14-2012, 11:45 AM
I don't know what Aledo will do this year without him. It was just a handoff to him 90% of the time.

FD
09-14-2012, 11:53 AM
I believe UT has him rotating with Malcolm Brown who was another top Texas recruit and whos a bigger back. Either way, it’s a pretty nice backfield they have. Wouldn’t surprise me if they both get drafted in a few years.

He is actually the third string back after Joe Bergeron and Malcolm Brown, who was also a top RB recruit. Texas' backfield is just loaded.

loochy
09-14-2012, 11:54 AM
He is actually the third string back after Joe Bergeron and Malcolm Brown, who was also a top RB recruit. Texas' backfield is just loaded.

Good because their QB is awful.

Demonpenz
09-14-2012, 12:39 PM
Reggie Bush wasn't touched in HS

Hog Farmer
09-14-2012, 12:46 PM
Johnny Manziel is his name, just looked it up. Just in his Sr HS season the guy threw for 3600 yrds 66comp%, 45 TD's 5 INT's, and ran for 1670 more yrds and 30 TD's while avg almost 10ypc.

75 TD's in one season....That's nuckin futs.

Yeah, I watched them play the Gators last week. He looked great the first half and I thought to myself there's our QBOTF but they stunk it up the second half. I take him right now over Cassel though. He's gonna be good.

whoman69
09-14-2012, 01:13 PM
He better come out early. I'm sure Texas is going to run him to death. That's a ridiculous number of carries for a HS player.