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Mr_Tomahawk
09-15-2012, 09:19 PM
...might as well get this started early.

Perhaps his injury well allow him to slip to the middle of the of the 1st round,..where we tend to draft. :p



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Nightfyre
09-15-2012, 09:21 PM
Clearly Arkansas missed him today.

Mr_Tomahawk
09-15-2012, 09:21 PM
Awesome thread man!

Setsuna
09-15-2012, 09:25 PM
Mr. T has gone full retard.

tredadda
09-15-2012, 09:26 PM
Dude looks good when he plays. His absence showed for Arkansas. Sadly though this might make his draft stock rise as they are night and day different without him showing just how good he really is.

Bowser
09-15-2012, 09:38 PM
Awesome thread man!

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Inmem58
09-15-2012, 09:40 PM
Geno Smith vs Tyler Wilson.

Bump
09-15-2012, 09:43 PM
Im in

Chiefs Pantalones
09-15-2012, 09:57 PM
Smith went 34-39, 411yds, 4 TDs today. I'm not picky though. Just draft a ****ing QB in the first round next year.

Bump
09-15-2012, 09:59 PM
Smith went 34-39, 411yds, 4 TDs today. I'm not picky though. Just draft a ****ing QB in the first round next year.

I'm in

beach tribe
09-15-2012, 10:10 PM
Smith went 34-39, 411yds, 4 TDs today. I'm not picky though. Just draft a ****ing QB in the first round next year.

Daaaaayum

tredadda
09-15-2012, 10:10 PM
Smith went 34-39, 411yds, 4 TDs today. I'm not picky though. Just draft a ****ing QB in the first round next year.

WVU has yet to play anybody this year, hence the gaudy numbers he is putting up. i will reserve judgement till WVU plays a UT, OU etc....

BigMeatballDave
09-15-2012, 10:24 PM
If Pioli doesn't take a QB next yr, he should be fired, then drawn and quartered.

Chiefs Pantalones
09-15-2012, 10:30 PM
WVU has yet to play anybody this year, hence the gaudy numbers he is putting up. i will reserve judgement till WVU plays a UT, OU etc....

I don't care who they've played, you can't even do that in playstation.

Bump
09-15-2012, 10:33 PM
If Pioli doesn't take a QB next yr, he should be fired, then drawn and quartered.

agreed

milkman
09-15-2012, 10:35 PM
WVU has yet to play anybody this year, hence the gaudy numbers he is putting up. i will reserve judgement till WVU plays a UT, OU etc....

The Big 12 isn't known for defense.

Smith is going to chew them up and spit them out.

KC Tattoo
09-15-2012, 10:41 PM
I'm in

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Mr_Tomahawk
09-16-2012, 06:40 AM
Tyler Wilson calls out Razorbacks for quitting in embarrassing 52-0 loss to Alabama

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--tyler-wilson-calls-out-razorbacks-for-quitting-in-embarrassing-52-0-loss-to-alabama.html

FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. With a minute to go in a humiliating 52-0 rout, injured Arkansas quarterback Tyler Wilson turned to sports information director Zack Higbee on the sideline and said, "There are some things I need to say."


Did he ever.

Only seconds after head coach John L. Smith told the assembled media "it's easy to point fingers at someone else; that's the coward's way out," Wilson stormed into the press room, sat down behind a microphone and put his teammates on blast.

"Obviously that wasn't pretty to watch," said Wilson, his face red and his voice raised. "Sucks I couldn't be out there to do something about it. Do I feel that we, at times, gave up out there? Yeah, absolutely."

Wilson, who didn't play because of concussion symptoms, went on: "As a leader, it sucks to see people not do their jobs and to see things go wrong. There has been a lot of things go that way." Wilson continued for a moment or two and then dropped his hands on the table, palms down, and said, "That's all I got."

Then he walked out.

Wilson wasn't the only one who felt the Razorbacks quit. "Toward the end, yeah," said senior defensive tackle Alfred Davis, moments after Wilson left the room. "To be honest."

Asked whether he was upset that Wilson called out the team, Davis raised his voice, too. "If they quit, they quit," he said. "We have to get to a place where we're not quitting in football games win, lose or draw."

Give credit to Wilson for showing some fight. It's about time somebody did. To say Smith has failed as a leader is about as obvious at this point as saying Alabama is good at football. At halftime, with his team down 24-0, he told CBS' Tracy Wolfson the Razorbacks need to "Keep doing what we're doing." And after the game, he slouched into the press room, leaned over the microphone and announced, "I don't know what to say."

As if that wasn't bad enough, he then admitted he didn't know what to say to the players, either.

Clearly Wilson knew what to say.

Now, ripping your teammates in front of the media is usually frowned upon Higbee said even allowing a player who didn't enter the game to speak to the media is not normally done but this team and this entire region needs to hear it. Because the players who quit weren't the only ones who gave up.


Arkansas fans headed home early during the Razorbacks' 52-0 loss to Alabama. (Eric Adelson)Fans quit too on this dreary Saturday. They booed on the very first possession of the game. They flooded out the exits even before halftime. And those were some of the loyal ones. Traffic to the game was relatively light and the parking lots reserved for tailgating were strikingly empty. An untold amount of fans quit days ago.

How bad has it gotten here in Arkansas? There was a near-fight on a plane ride into the state from Dallas Friday night. Two fans started yelling at each other about fired coach Bobby Petrino, with one calling the other "an idiot redneck."

"We had a national championship contending team," said Shane Mayo, 30, who was defending the disgraced coach from seat 5A. "Bobby Petrino is the steward, the captain of the ship."

Last week's brutal home loss to unheralded Louisiana-Monroe split open a brewing chasm in this area about whether Petrino should have been fired and whether athletic director Jeff Long destroyed a once-promising season by hiring Smith. A lot of fans became more intent on stating their side of the debate than cheering on the team. That has turned fans against fans and a proud community into a pool of misery.


"A lot of people wouldn't care if [Petrino] murdered somebody as long as we win," said Arkansas grad Steve Dubois before Saturday's game. "Idiots."

Petrino may have wrecked his career and his team's season by lying to his boss about a motorcycle accident involving a young woman in the athletic department, but the fired coach is now more popular here than either the A.D. or the current coach. So popular, in fact, that a 22-year-old fan named Michael Remescheid said he'd rather have Petrino back in charge than have a law passed allowing nearby Benton County to start serving alcohol.

"I'd rather have Petrino," he said Friday. "I can make my own beer."

The best thing that can happen to the community of Arkansas football supporters is if Wilson's cover tribute to Tim Tebow's famous "Promise" speech starts giving them something to talk about beside how terrible Petrino/Long/Smith is. The vibe here is shockingly negative, and the anger Wilson showed needs to be channeled into something productive for the remainder of what is likely a lost season.

There is still a shred of promise. Alabama is a powerhouse, perhaps a team of the decade in the making, but Arkansas could have contended in this game if Wilson had been healthy. The Razorbacks' defense was strong and inspired in the first half, but silly mistakes rendered this game unsightly. The worst of those mistakes was Smith starting an inexperienced center, who promptly fired a snap over the head of punter Dylan Breeding for a 31-yard loss on fourth down in the first quarter. That set up the only touchdown the Tide would need.

"Blame was here," Smith said of his decision after the game. "That's where the blame should come."

No need to worry about that. The bellowing for Louisville coach and Arkansas native Charlie Strong is probably going on all over the state right now.

It's a shame that Wilson, clearly the heart of this team, has to watch his senior season turn into this nightmare. Whether he plays next week against Rutgers or not and Smith said he might the team should play for him and fans should show up for him. He's owed that much, at least.

Wilson should have saved his tirade for the locker room, but he deserves a lot better than this. Arkansas is a state known for producing a president from a place called Hope, but it doesn't have to be known for a football program from a place of despair.

bevischief
09-16-2012, 06:47 AM
I might joy the bandwagon after about 6 or 7 more games...

RustShack
09-16-2012, 10:38 AM
I'd rather have Steele Jantz.

NewChief
09-16-2012, 10:53 AM
Rumors are that they're telling John L. Smith to pack his shit today. I've never seen such gross incompetence from a head coach.

Mr_Tomahawk
09-16-2012, 01:44 PM
Yeah....

Mr_Tomahawk
09-18-2012, 07:00 PM
Come on!

Sorter
09-18-2012, 07:05 PM
I've been on this bandwagon for over a year now.
I won't be upset with Geno Smith either. However, I liked Wilson the minute he stepped in for Mallet and played like a bad motherfucker.

With that being said...

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MahiMike
09-18-2012, 07:27 PM
meh

Mr_Tomahawk
09-18-2012, 08:34 PM
meh

:#

Mr_Tomahawk
09-18-2012, 09:31 PM
I hate you guys.

Chiefs Pantalones
09-18-2012, 09:39 PM
Just draft a fucking 1st round QB already.

lewdog
09-18-2012, 09:43 PM
I was high on Wilson's stock last year and still am on it, more so than Barkley.

Tribal Warfare
09-18-2012, 10:12 PM
sign me up for this

Mr_Tomahawk
09-20-2012, 08:43 PM
W00T

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/66290/tyler-wilson-cleared-to-play-saturday

evolve27
09-20-2012, 08:48 PM
Wilson or G. Smith or Barkley. Any QB this year please

Mr_Tomahawk
09-20-2012, 08:52 PM
Wilson or G. Smith or Barkley. Any QB this year please

No Barkley. And Fuck No Laundry Jones.

evolve27
09-20-2012, 08:55 PM
No Barkley. And **** No Laundry Jones.

Yeah I don't like Landry either. Saw him play against Fl A&M in Norman and he looks like a bust. I really don't want another USC QB named Matt ever one this roster again too..

Mr_Tomahawk
09-22-2012, 05:04 PM
Game on.

Mr_Tomahawk
09-22-2012, 05:05 PM
53 yard pass on 3rd and 13.

BossChief
09-22-2012, 05:10 PM
That pass probably should have been intercepted.

Tribal Warfare
09-22-2012, 05:46 PM
Now that was a play

Mr_Tomahawk
09-22-2012, 05:46 PM
7/11 for 151 yards and 1-TD at the end of the 1st quarter.

BossChief
09-22-2012, 05:50 PM
That was a nice td strike.He got annihilated after he got that ball out and it had really nice zip and accuracy.

By now, Cassel would be going into his shell.

Everytime I watch this kid, I see Phillip Rivers.

The good and bad included.

Mr_Tomahawk
09-22-2012, 06:34 PM
9/17 with 158 yards and 1 td at half.

Struggled moving the ball in the second quarter obviously.

O.city
09-22-2012, 06:41 PM
Only thing I see with Wilson is he tends to have a wind up release.

Mr_Tomahawk
09-22-2012, 07:08 PM
Gary is showing up Tyler right now.

Gary Nova of Rutgers 16/24 215 yards and 3 TDs

O.city
09-22-2012, 07:18 PM
Wilson's been bit so much he's gun shy

Mr_Tomahawk
09-22-2012, 07:21 PM
Reciever just dropped an absolute dime in the quarter of the endzone. Wilson couldn't have given him a better ball.

Wilson now 12/23 213 yards 1 TD in the middle of the 3rd.

Mr_Tomahawk
09-22-2012, 07:33 PM
Arkansas receivers dropping everything.


Edit* Nice throw and catch there... :-)

Mr_Tomahawk
09-22-2012, 07:33 PM
Wilsonception. fml

Mr_Tomahawk
09-22-2012, 07:43 PM
Wilson with a TD.

17/31 311 yards 2 TD and 1 int. start of the 4th.

O.city
09-22-2012, 07:43 PM
Wilson is the leader you are looking for at qb. IMO it's smith, Wilson, Barkley

Mr_Tomahawk
09-22-2012, 07:56 PM
Wilson with an 80 yard TD strike.

19/33 396 yards 3 TDs and 1 int.

Middle of the 4th.

O.city
09-22-2012, 07:57 PM
I like what I'm seeing from Wilson, from a leadership perspective

Tribal Warfare
09-22-2012, 08:07 PM
I like what I'm seeing from Wilson, from a leadership perspective

it really seems like he's the whole show in their offense.

Mr_Tomahawk
09-22-2012, 08:10 PM
He's got 419 yards passing 3 tds and 1 int.

Sadly there have been 3 huge drops and the defense can't stop a nose bleed.

Gary is going to go over 400 yards with 5 ints

O.city
09-22-2012, 08:11 PM
The hogs offensive scheme is as pro style as it gets so Wilson won't have much changing

Mr_Tomahawk
09-22-2012, 08:17 PM
ugh....ball bounces off of a receivers shoulder pads and is intercepted....

Wilson with 419 yards, 3 td, 2 int.

Should be more like 470 yards 5 tds and 1 int.

ILChief
09-22-2012, 09:08 PM
Either Wilson or geno

Unsmooth-Moment
09-22-2012, 09:13 PM
Tyler Bray went 27/43 401 yards 4 TD's and 1 INT

I'll take any of the 3 though

ILChief
09-22-2012, 09:18 PM
Surely we draft one of these QBs and don't have Cassel again

NJChiefsFan
09-22-2012, 09:40 PM
Good game by Rutgers.

Chiefs Pantalones
09-22-2012, 10:27 PM
Yeah I'll take Wilson, Smith or Barkely. Preferably Wilson or Smith. I wouldn't touch Jones. That may change once the scouting combine and pro days come though.

I wouldn't mind Bray either but I get the feeling that he's staying for another year.

clyde05
09-23-2012, 02:11 AM
Wilson is the leader you are looking for at qb. IMO it's smith, Wilson, Barkley

This

Mr_Tomahawk
09-29-2012, 11:05 AM
Game on.

AndChiefs
09-29-2012, 01:24 PM
Not looking too impressive.

SNR
09-29-2012, 01:30 PM
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ILChief
09-29-2012, 02:07 PM
WTF is wrong with Arkansas?

NewChief
09-29-2012, 02:10 PM
WTF is wrong with Arkansas?

That's the million dollar question. Seriously. It's mind boggling.

How we could go from being that good to this bad is just insane. This may go down as one of the worst team "falls" in history.

Clearly Bobby Petrino deserved not only his money, but his assistant's money as well. Jesus.

BoneKrusher
09-29-2012, 02:19 PM
Itsa Geno.

ILChief
09-29-2012, 02:21 PM
They have to fire John L Smith

NewChief
09-29-2012, 02:21 PM
In Tyler's defense: he's going to build up some seriously good karma this season as he continues to lead this craptastic team. Surely that bodes well for wherever he goes next.

ILChief
09-29-2012, 02:25 PM
I still like Wilson and would love for him to end up in KC. I wonder how far he's gonna fall

LiL stumppy
09-29-2012, 02:28 PM
First game I actually set down to watch him and ARK play.... Guess I picked the wrong game.

NewChief
09-29-2012, 02:38 PM
First game I actually set down to watch him and ARK play.... Guess I picked the wrong game.

You picked the wrong season. We're inexplicably horrible.

BossChief
09-29-2012, 04:24 PM
I think the guy is a piss poor leader and that effects the team around him in a negative way.

He has all the physical tools a qb would ever want, but so did Ryan Leaf.

MIAdragon
09-29-2012, 04:32 PM
I think the guy is a piss poor leader and that effects the team around him in a negative way.

He has all the physical tools a qb would ever want, but so did Ryan Leaf.

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BossChief
09-29-2012, 04:39 PM
Mallet > Wilson

Allright that may be going too far...but it's close and RM went in the third round.

I'd rather offer NE a 2nd rounder for him than draft Wilson in the top 15.

notorious
09-29-2012, 05:44 PM
Mallet > Wilson

Allright that may be going too far...but it's close and RM went in the third round.

I'd rather offer NE a 2nd rounder for him than draft Wilson in the top 15.

I'd rather be shot in the face than in the stomach.


Fuck Mallett.

Mr_Tomahawk
10-05-2012, 08:36 PM
Wonder how Geno would do against SEC defenses...?

Mr_Tomahawk
10-05-2012, 08:38 PM
:whackit::whackit::whackit::whackit::whackit:

#7 Kansas City Chiefs: Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas

It's pretty evident that the Chiefs will need to admit they were wrong and move on from Matt Cassel. He's just too limited to command a winning team in today's pass-happy NFL. And the fans know it too because they won't stop booing him. Maybe if he didn't turn it over on every other possession...

Kansas City has to take a quarterback; in fact, the front office may have to trade up to acquire one.

Pick change; previously Geno Smith, QB

http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php


FWIW...Geno went #1 to the Browns in this week's mock.

Mr_Tomahawk
10-06-2012, 11:46 AM
Halftime vs. Auburn

14/18 163 yards and 0tds 0ints

beach tribe
10-06-2012, 11:51 AM
Mallet > Wilson

Allright that may be going too far...but it's close and RM went in the third round.

I'd rather offer NE a 2nd rounder for him than draft Wilson in the top 15.

I like Mallet, but it seems like Bad Juju to trade a 2nd for NE's back up QB don't you think?

beach tribe
10-06-2012, 11:52 AM
And if we were going to do that, we should just do it right now, and throw his ass in there to get him ready for next season.

NewChief
10-06-2012, 12:21 PM
Wilson is repeatedly going to a receiver short of the marker on 3rd down, and its pissing me off.

AndChiefs
10-06-2012, 12:45 PM
Wilson is repeatedly going to a receiver short of the marker on 3rd down, and its pissing me off.

When did Cassel start playing for Arkansas?

Mr_Tomahawk
10-06-2012, 01:46 PM
Nothing special in stats today, 250+ yards passing 0 tds and 0 ints in their win today.

ILChief
10-06-2012, 01:51 PM
I like Mallet, but it seems like Bad Juju to trade a 2nd for NE's back up QB don't you think?

Those who don't learn from history...

Hoover
10-06-2012, 01:56 PM
Is it just me or is his throwing motion a bit odd. Does he side arm it a bit?

milkman
10-06-2012, 01:57 PM
I've watched this guy 3 times now.

Still waiting to be impressed.

Mr_Tomahawk
10-06-2012, 01:58 PM
Is it just me or is his throwing motion a bit odd. Does he side arm it a bit?

His release reminds me a bit of Phylis'...it gets out quickly though with plenty of zip.

Mr_Tomahawk
10-06-2012, 02:00 PM
I've watched this guy 3 times now.

Still waiting to be impressed.

Not gonna lie...

...he was much more impressive last year. I don't know if his lack of production thus far has been from the coaching change...talent around him...HIM...I duno. I am waiting for what I saw last year to surface.

If Geno is off the board and it is between Barkley, Laundry, and Wilson....I am full Wilson.

milkman
10-06-2012, 02:01 PM
Not gonna lie...

...he was much more impressive last year. I don't know if his lack of production thus far has been from the coaching change...talent around him...HIM...I duno. I am waiting for what I saw last year to surface.

If Geno is off the board and it is between Barkley, Laundry, and Wilson....I am full Wilson.

Barkley.

Mr_Tomahawk
10-06-2012, 02:02 PM
Barkley.

I'm done with SoCal QB's who pan out to nothing in the NFL.

milkman
10-06-2012, 02:04 PM
I'm done with SoCal QB's who pan out to nothing in the NFL.

I'm done with Tedford QBs who panout to nothing in the NFL/PreRodgers post.

Mr_Tomahawk
10-06-2012, 02:06 PM
I'm done with Tedford QBs who panout to nothing in the NFL/PreRodgers post.

Not fair.

milkman
10-06-2012, 02:14 PM
Not fair.

Maybe not, but it is fact.

Each and every player is a different from previous players in the same system, the same team, or whatever the case might be.

You have to draw conclusions about a player based on the observations of that player, not based on the failure or success of players that played in that system or school previously.

I don't think Barkley is more physically talented, or even smarter, than his predecessors, but I do believe he has a mental toughness, dedication, and leadership qualities that they did not possess.

At the end of the day, those are the qualities that I believe separates failure and success.

milkman
10-06-2012, 02:18 PM
And, for the record, those qualities have not been displayed by Wilson.

I like Smith, not because of the video game numbers he's posted, but because he plays smart, he plays tough, is clearly in charge on the field, and all indications are that he is solely dedicated to his craft.

Ebolapox
10-06-2012, 02:20 PM
Maybe not, but it is fact.

Each and every player is a different from previous players in the same system, the same team, or whatever the case might be.

You have to draw conclusions about a player based on the observations of that player, not based on the failure or success of players that played in that system or school previously.

I don't think Barkley is more physically talented, or even smarter, than his predecessors, but I do believe he has a mental toughness, dedication, and leadership qualities that they did not possess.

At the end of the day, those are the qualities that I believe separates failure and success.

yep. barkley wouldn't hurt my feelings at all. only guy I don't really want any part of is landry jones.

Hoover
10-06-2012, 02:35 PM
yep. barkley wouldn't hurt my feelings at all. only guy I don't really want any part of is landry jones.
I fall into this camp.

Even if the Chiefs are .500 this year, I think we should be able to land either Geno, Wilson, or Barkley. I'll be thrilled with any of them

Chocolate Hog
10-06-2012, 03:01 PM
Barkley.

Like you I haven't been impressed with Wilson.

I've said before you can win a title with Barkley. He's really got the shit beat out of him at times this year but he's still accurate with the ball and he's proven doubters wrong about his arm strength.

The only thing that i'm not sure about with Barkley is his decision making. He's made some piss poor decisions this year with the ball including last week where he threw a ball that should have been a red zone INT.

The huge difference between Wilson and a guy like Barkley is leadership. Wilson isn't a leader.

Mr_Tomahawk
10-06-2012, 08:00 PM
SEC Defenses would eat rubber-armed Barkley.

gohogs14
10-06-2012, 11:14 PM
Wilson doesn't really have much to work with this season. After losing Adams and Wright his only real receiving option is hamilton and his TE Gragg who has been out the past 2 weeks. He also has one of the worst OLs in CFB. So i can see how he wouldn't be as good as last year...but he still makes throws that not many other QBs can make. Today against auburn he played well but we had 2 rushing TDs and scored on a trick play so he didn't have any TDs. Also doesn't help that we havent had much of a rushing game to take pressure off of him.

I really don't know why people question his leadership based on his comments from the alabama game. Was he supposed to sugarcoat it? The team did give up...they lost 52-0 lol. During the summer and the petrino mess he was the main guy the team rallied around and was a great leader.

The A&M game was the worst game i've seen him play though...hopefully it was just a fluke

O.city
10-06-2012, 11:16 PM
He holds on to the ball to long and is in an offense based around him chuckng it deep to wide open Wr's or short letting athletes make plays.

Nightfyre
10-07-2012, 12:37 AM
Bottom line is that he is franchise QB material and if we absolutely cannot get Smith then we should take a chance on Wilson.

ChiefGator
10-07-2012, 06:04 AM
FWIW...Geno went #1 to the Browns in this week's mock.

God, talk about epic fail as a franchise, although I guess that would indicate they are at least willing to draft QB's high in the draft.

Mr_Tomahawk
10-13-2012, 07:01 PM
End of the 1st vs Kentucky

11/12 263yrds 3-tds 0-ints

NewChief
10-13-2012, 07:21 PM
End of the 1st vs Kentucky

11/12 263yrds 3-tds 0-ints

4 TDs now.

Mr_Tomahawk
10-13-2012, 07:21 PM
4 TDs now.

Yup. He may hit 350 yards and 5 TDs by half...

NewChief
10-13-2012, 07:24 PM
Yup. He may hit 350 yards and 5 TDs by half...

KY secondary is just sad. That being said, I can't help but wonder what our season is like if we actually hit and go full contact in offseason some. Our defense and running game seem to finally be coming alive. We still lose to A&m and Bama, but I think our other losses are wins.

Mr_Tomahawk
10-13-2012, 07:26 PM
KY secondary is just sad. That being said, I can't help but wonder what our season is like if we actually hit and go full contact in offseason some. Our defense and running game seem to finally be coming alive. We still lose to A&m and Bama, but I think our other losses are wins.

Yeah...

...I just like "your" quarterback. :)

Mr_Tomahawk
10-13-2012, 07:44 PM
Halftime

19/25 331-yards 4-TDs 0-Ints

Chocolate Hog
10-13-2012, 07:46 PM
Against Kentucky his first good game of the season. Congrats.

NewChief
10-13-2012, 07:56 PM
Against Kentucky his first good game of the season. Congrats.

Fail.

Chocolate Hog
10-13-2012, 07:58 PM
Fail.

Sorry who could forget that great game vs Jacksonville State?

NewChief
10-13-2012, 08:02 PM
Sorry who could forget that great game vs Jacksonville State?

He's played well in every game. The rest of the team sucked ass. His YPG average is best in SEC

Mr_Tomahawk
10-13-2012, 08:04 PM
ARK Passing CMP ATT YDS YPA TD INT
Tyler Wilson 23 31 372 12.0 5 0

Mr_Tomahawk
10-13-2012, 08:17 PM
Did they pull TW out of the game already...?

NewChief
10-13-2012, 08:26 PM
Did they pull TW out of the game already...?

Yes. After the first touchdown in 3rd. And the game is back in rain delay. Horrible.

BossChief
10-13-2012, 08:34 PM
Reminds me a lot of Phillip Rivers.

he wouldnt be my first choice, but Id draft him if he is on the board and Barkley and Smith arent.

Setsuna
10-13-2012, 08:41 PM
LOL it's KENTUCKY. GTFO.

the Talking Can
10-13-2012, 08:42 PM
the more good QBs the better

Mr_Tomahawk
10-13-2012, 08:42 PM
LOL it's KENTUCKY. GTFO.

Hows your boy Bray doing tonight?

Feel free to throw his stat line up...

Mr_Tomahawk
10-13-2012, 08:47 PM
Bray at Half:

TENN Passing CMP ATT YDS YPA TD INT
Tyler Bray 6 12 58 4.8 0 1

Mr_Tomahawk
10-16-2012, 06:59 PM
Evan Silva ‏@evansilva
Aware of current concerns but I'd be surprised if Tyler Wilson's "stock" didn't "rise" back into high 1st by April. Too good.

Woodchuck
10-16-2012, 07:11 PM
Put me on the Wilson list. If we are going to take a QB, I hope it's him.

BigMeatballDave
10-16-2012, 10:24 PM
Put me on the Wilson list. If we are going to take a QB, I hope it's him.

I bet if he were black, you wouldn't want him...

Mr_Tomahawk
10-20-2012, 07:05 PM
Bam!

O.city
10-24-2012, 07:26 PM
I've went back and watched some stuff on all the QB's and I'm actually starting to come around on Wilson.


LSU 2011, he stood in the pocket against one of the better defenses in history and took some shots but delivered good throws.

Mr_Tomahawk
10-24-2012, 07:31 PM
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/2800000/Mr-Burns-in-Real-Life-the-simpsons-2883512-949-1002.jpg

BossChief
10-24-2012, 07:35 PM
I've went back and watched some stuff on all the QB's and I'm actually starting to come around on Wilson.


LSU 2011, he stood in the pocket against one of the better defenses in history and took some shots but delivered good throws.

I really like what the kid is on the field...it's just the leadership concerns that make me hesitant.

No doubt he has the balls and confidence you look for...I think he and Barkley are 2a and 2b at this point. IMO anyway.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-24-2012, 07:35 PM
I've went back and watched some stuff on all the QB's and I'm actually starting to come around on Wilson.


LSU 2011, he stood in the pocket against one of the better defenses in history and took some shots but delivered good throws.

I don't care which one we draft but my top three are Wilson, Smith and Murray. Barkley scares the shit out of me. Thanks USC.

Bump
10-24-2012, 07:36 PM
I'll be super duper happy with Wilson, Barkley or Geno. Any one of them will work. We just need to be in the top 3 for the draft to ensure we get one of them.

O.city
10-24-2012, 07:38 PM
He's a competitive dude. Alot of shit has gone on with that team this year and he's the unquestioned leader.


I actually like that he's been thru that adversity this year.

Mr_Tomahawk
10-24-2012, 07:39 PM
FWIW...I love the throw at the 30 second mark in the clip in the OP.

Not a lot of air under the ball and he puts the ball on the money.

O.city
10-24-2012, 07:42 PM
Being a pseudo Arkansas fan, I wouldn't mind having Wilson.

SNR
10-24-2012, 08:32 PM
I liked Bray this summer. Thought he'd really show his stuff this year.

Yeah... not really

Sorter
10-24-2012, 08:39 PM
he and Barkley are 2a and 2b at this point. IMO anyway.

^^This.

Jayhawker
10-24-2012, 08:51 PM
There is a guy on YouTube that has videos of all the throws from Wilson, Smith, and Barkley from many games. I would recommend watching them, currently I'm preferring Wilson and Barkley than Smith cause Smith mostly throws 15-25 Yard Passes even though he does it really well. The guy's name on YouTube is JMPasq

Mr_Tomahawk
10-24-2012, 09:22 PM
There is a guy on YouTube that has videos of all the throws from Wilson, Smith, and Barkley from many games. I would recommend watching them, currently I'm preferring Wilson and Barkley than Smith cause Smith mostly throws 15-25 Yard Passes even though he does it really well. The guy's name on YouTube is JMPasq

Can't find said youtube clip.

Can you link?

gohogs14
10-24-2012, 11:00 PM
Can't find said youtube clip.

Can you link?

You have to have i think 50 posts to link, i cant either

ht tp://w ww.youtube .com/user/JPDraftJedi/videos?query=tyler

but that has all his videos without the spaces

mdchiefsfan
10-25-2012, 05:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/user/JPDraftJedi/videos?query=tyler

Not too bad, I watched the Rutgers replay. His offensive line seems to do him no favors and I laugh at the fact that 82 on their team was dropping balls left and right. He shows good pocket awareness and good mobility to escape it and extend it. He makes his reads quickly and can anticipate the throwing window well. He is fearless. He won't be able to take hits that often in the NFL, but Good Lord he just doesn't care about oncoming pressure in his face. Only real complaint I have is he seems to make bad decisions when rushed. I mean he threw several toss up balls into double, even quadruple coverage and got lucky, that won't fly in the NFL. I need to watch more but that is what I took from watching the Rutgers game.

htismaqe
10-25-2012, 06:49 AM
I really like what the kid is on the field...it's just the leadership concerns that make me hesitant.

Yep, that's where I'm at too.

No doubt he has the balls and confidence you look for...I think he and Barkley are 2a and 2b at this point. IMO anyway.

I have Wilson as my #2. Barkley would be #3 for me, at least.

NewChief
10-25-2012, 06:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/user/JPDraftJedi/videos?query=tyler

Not too bad, I watched the Rutgers replay. His offensive line seems to do him no favors and I laugh at the fact that 82 on their team was dropping balls left and right. He shows good pocket awareness and good mobility to escape it and extend it. He makes his reads quickly and can anticipate the throwing window well. He is fearless. He won't be able to take hits that often in the NFL, but Good Lord he just doesn't care about oncoming pressure in his face. Only real complaint I have is he seems to make bad decisions when rushed. I mean he threw several toss up balls into double, even quadruple coverage and got lucky, that won't fly in the NFL. I need to watch more but that is what I took from watching the Rutgers game.


As far as forcing the ball: that's not really been a habit of his in the past. To provide a little context for that game: he'd been on the bench, watching the team fall apart for 1.5 games at that point. He felt a lot of pressure to come in, be Superman, and rescue this team. I think that's one reason for the forced balls. In the past, most Hog fans were grateful that he didn't have Mallet-itis in trying to force the ball and make the wrong play at the wrong time, and that was always a point of contrast between the two QBs.

I'm sort of puzzled by the leadership questions. Is it because of his comments about the team after the Alabama game? Once again, I'll just say that was him trying to come in and be the captain of a rudderless ship. Of course, it didn't work out. If, after his comments, the team would have responded, come in and destroyed Rutgers the next week, then I think everyone would be saying what a great leader he is. That the team responded to him calling them out. Unfortunately, this team had bigger issues that a QB getting vocal (or staying silent) weren't able to fix.

Anyway, he's a good QB.

mdchiefsfan
10-25-2012, 07:22 AM
As far as forcing the ball: that's not really been a habit of his in the past. To provide a little context for that game: he'd been on the bench, watching the team fall apart for 1.5 games at that point. He felt a lot of pressure to come in, be Superman, and rescue this team. I think that's one reason for the forced balls. In the past, most Hog fans were grateful that he didn't have Mallet-itis in trying to force the ball and make the wrong play at the wrong time, and that was always a point of contrast between the two QBs.

I'm sort of puzzled by the leadership questions. Is it because of his comments about the team after the Alabama game? Once again, I'll just say that was him trying to come in and be the captain of a rudderless ship. Of course, it didn't work out. If, after his comments, the team would have responded, come in and destroyed Rutgers the next week, then I think everyone would be saying what a great leader he is. That the team responded to him calling them out. Unfortunately, this team had bigger issues that a QB getting vocal (or staying silent) weren't able to fix.

Anyway, he's a good QB.

Thanks for the context. I watched Mississippi State 2011 and LSU 2011 as well. I have a feeling a lot of the issues I have with him are being created by his offensive line. He was constantly under duress, especially in the LSU game, that was brutal. He is forced to make quick decisions and his accuracy suffers because of it. When given time he is quite accurate, but on occasion puts too much air under the ball. One thing that really impressed me was his ability to run to the left and throw across his body to the left side of the field. I would like to see it more, but what I did see was good. That's a tough throw for most to make, he did it with apparent ease.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-25-2012, 09:26 AM
My balls hurt...

gohogs14
10-25-2012, 11:34 AM
Thanks for the context. I watched Mississippi State 2011 and LSU 2011 as well. I have a feeling a lot of the issues I have with him are being created by his offensive line. He was constantly under duress, especially in the LSU game, that was brutal. He is forced to make quick decisions and his accuracy suffers because of it. When given time he is quite accurate, but on occasion puts too much air under the ball. One thing that really impressed me was his ability to run to the left and throw across his body to the left side of the field. I would like to see it more, but what I did see was good. That's a tough throw for most to make, he did it with apparent ease.

The auburn 2010 game when mallett was injured was the last time he really had a decent OL. He played great on short notice. If you thought that LSU game was bad the 2011 alabama game was even worse...don't know how he survived it.

Our OL has played better the last few weeks but we havent played anyone. He gets his 2nd best target in TE Chris Gragg back this week who has missed the past 3 games so that will be a boost.

His deep ball needs some work but other than that if you give him a good OL he will be a solid QB

gohogs14
10-27-2012, 10:56 AM
Looking good against ole miss so far. Had a beautiful pass to the TE for a TD.

Edit: And as i say that he almost gets intercepted twice lol

NewChief
10-27-2012, 10:58 AM
Looking good against ole miss so far. Had a beautiful pass to the TE for a TD.

Yup. Stood in the pocket and took a huge hit. He's throwing some shitty passes as well, though. Almost been picked several times. Not sure if the wind is bothering him or what.

NewChief
10-27-2012, 11:16 AM
Tyler is forcing the ball today against Ole Miss. Really lucky he hasn't been picked.

NewChief
10-27-2012, 11:19 AM
And there's the pick. It was inevitable. Coach needs to talk to him.

If Bobby were here, he would chew his ass and settle him down. No one on staff to do that, sadly.

gohogs14
10-27-2012, 11:19 AM
yeah...this is as bad as i've seen him...not sure whats wrong with him today. It is pretty cold there but still

gohogs14
10-27-2012, 11:52 AM
Looking a little better now. Seems like he went into a funk after that hard hit when he threw the TD...hope his head is ok

Chocolate Hog
10-27-2012, 12:24 PM
A lot of people seem to be warming up to Wilson he could be the first QB drafted wouldn't surprise me.

NewChief
10-27-2012, 12:47 PM
A lot of people seem to be warming up to Wilson he could be the first QB drafted wouldn't surprise me.

He's doing himself no favors this week. A truly pedestrian, sometimes downright poor, performance this week.

gohogs14
10-27-2012, 01:03 PM
Looked like he was spitting out blood after that last hit. Good job of getting out of the sack though

htismaqe
10-27-2012, 01:31 PM
Bray looked pretty good against a good S Carolina defense today.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-27-2012, 01:38 PM
I'm anxious to see how Murray does today.

gohogs14
10-27-2012, 01:55 PM
On another note Dennis Johnson will be ray rice lite for whoever gets him

gohogs14
10-29-2012, 02:10 PM
Wilson was diagnosed with a hip pointer today but will still play saturday against tulsa. Might explain why he didnt look like himself

rico
10-29-2012, 04:54 PM
Bray looked pretty good against a good S Carolina defense today.

That's what I like about Bray. He may be douchey and potentially immature, but seems to step it up, even against the good D's. Coming into the season, the top 3 guys I wanted to draft in order were; 1.) Bray, 2.) Smith, 3.) Barkley/Wilson.....a few games in this season, it switched to 1.) Smith, 2.) Barkley, 3.) Bray (mostly because his doucheyness, 4.) Wilson. Now I'm teeter-tottering with 1.) Bray/Wilson, 3.) Barkley, 4.) Wilson. I think this Bray kid has got some awesome potential....it's just the character questions that concern me.

htismaqe
10-29-2012, 04:59 PM
That's what I like about Bray. He may be douchey and potentially immature, but seems to step it up, even against the good D's. Coming into the season, the top 3 guys I wanted to draft in order were; 1.) Bray, 2.) Smith, 3.) Barkley/Wilson.....a few games in this season, it switched to 1.) Smith, 2.) Barkley, 3.) Bray (mostly because his doucheyness, 4.) Wilson. Now I'm teeter-tottering with 1.) Bray/Wilson, 3.) Barkley, 4.) Wilson. I think this Bray kid has got some awesome potential....it's just the character questions that concern me.

You can't downplay the character questions, though.

THE most important attribute in becoming a Super Bowl-winning QB is having the mentality for it. The "it" factor.

All the talent in the world isn't going to help you if you don't have "it". Just ask Phillip Rivers.

rico
10-29-2012, 05:28 PM
You can't downplay the character questions, though.

THE most important attribute in becoming a Super Bowl-winning QB is having the mentality for it. The "it" factor.

All the talent in the world isn't going to help you if you don't have "it". Just ask Phillip Rivers.

I couldn't agree more.

rico
10-29-2012, 05:45 PM
I forgot this was a Wilson thread. As far as Tyler Wilson goes...the limited sample size that I've seen from him, he reminds me a bit of Christian Ponder.

KCBOSS1
10-29-2012, 06:27 PM
I'm totally for Wilson, but then again I was totally for Mallett as well (still am). Wilson is a leader, he's a tough kid, will stand in the pocket and deliver. Very good accuracy. Razorbacks are not good (and I'm a Hog fan), giving him no protection and as of last week, he was leading the SEC in passing. I believe that he was the leading passer in the SEC last year. SEC has the most NFL like defenses in the NCAA. He has stood up under horrible circumstances this year. I haven't seen anyone in college playing against the level of defenses that he faces and deliver like he has overall.

Detoxing
10-29-2012, 07:04 PM
I'm totally for Wilson, but then again I was totally for Mallett as well (still am). Wilson is a leader, he's a tough kid, will stand in the pocket and deliver. Very good accuracy. Razorbacks are not good (and I'm a Hog fan), giving him no protection and as of last week, he was leading the SEC in passing. I believe that he was the leading passer in the SEC last year. SEC has the most NFL like defenses in the NCAA. He has stood up under horrible circumstances this year. I haven't seen anyone in college playing against the level of defenses that he faces and deliver like he has overall.

Im all in on Tyler Wilson. That's not to say he doesn't have some concerns, but imo, all three do. But i think Tyler has already seen a lot of what he'll see in the NFL and he's had success in the SEC, something the other two can't say.

Woodchuck
10-30-2012, 06:28 AM
You can't downplay the character questions, though.

THE most important attribute in becoming a Super Bowl-winning QB is having the mentality for it. The "it" factor.

All the talent in the world isn't going to help you if you don't have "it". Just ask Phillip Rivers.

I agree 100% but, why do you think Geno has "it?" Out of the three, he is the least clutch in my opinion. If he gets behind by a couple of scores, it seems to be over.

ncCHIEFfan
10-30-2012, 06:37 AM
I lived in AR for 18 years. Big fan of the Hogs. Wilson is 5x the QB Mallett was.

Having that said, if our beloved Chiefs do not fix the FO problem, bring in good coaching,

none of these QBs are going to heal our pain!

Woodchuck
10-30-2012, 06:43 AM
I lived in AR for 18 years. Big fan of the Hogs. Wilson is 5x the QB Mallett was.

Having that said, if our beloved Chiefs do not fix the FO problem, bring in good coaching,

none of these QBs are going to heal our pain!

I would not be suprised to see Wilson go #1 overall when it is all said and done.

htismaqe
10-30-2012, 06:43 AM
I agree 100% but, why do you think Geno has "it?" Out of the three, he is the least clutch in my opinion. If he gets behind by a couple of scores, it seems to be over.

This was a discussion about Bray.

When it comes to character, an incomplete grade is better than a negative grade.

Geno does what he is asked to do. That's the way it is in college. More than ever before, guys aren't being prepared to play in the NFL, they're being inserted into crazy motion and read offenses in an attempt to win college football games. Teams have finally figured out that these kinds of offenses can elevate a 2nd-tier team into a contender. Look at the QBs taken early the last few years.

KC Tattoo
10-30-2012, 06:50 AM
Am going make a bold prediction & based off of Jerry Jones love for the Razorbacks. I predict the Cowboys trading up to get this kid. I'd love to see him as a Chief but I think Jerry Jones is going target the kid and hope that means he leaves Barkley or Geno Smith alone. The Cowboys are going be in the market for a QB and they are a player in the draft to contend with. Fucking DallASS Cowboys.

Woodchuck
10-30-2012, 07:01 AM
This was a discussion about Bray.

When it comes to character, an incomplete grade is better than a negative grade.

Geno does what he is asked to do. That's the way it is in college. More than ever before, guys aren't being prepared to play in the NFL, they're being inserted into crazy motion and read offenses in an attempt to win college football games. Teams have finally figured out that these kinds of offenses can elevate a 2nd-tier team into a contender. Look at the QBs taken early the last few years.

I hear you but, Geno hasn't shown he has "it" imo. When the game is on the line, he generally doesn't make the play that the QB has to make. For example, when you are down 21-7, you have to convert the 3rd and 5 to keep the drive going. He doesn't do that and he seems to lose his composure when he gets behind. He's not the least bit clutch in my opinion. He will have more opprotunities to prove he can do this.

suds79
10-30-2012, 07:07 AM
That's what I like about Bray. He may be douchey and potentially immature, but seems to step it up, even against the good D's. Coming into the season, the top 3 guys I wanted to draft in order were; 1.) Bray, 2.) Smith, 3.) Barkley/Wilson.....a few games in this season, it switched to 1.) Smith, 2.) Barkley, 3.) Bray (mostly because his doucheyness, 4.) Wilson. Now I'm teeter-tottering with 1.) Bray/Wilson, 3.) Barkley, 4.) Wilson. I think this Bray kid has got some awesome potential....it's just the character questions that concern me.

Coming into the season I liked Bray the most also. Was used to the toughest competition on the SEC, had the size, has the best arm.

But then after watching him play several times this year, I'm convinced he should stay in school. He's just not ready. This guy if he is everything he's suppose to be should be dominating college football and he just isn't.

ncCHIEFfan
10-30-2012, 07:34 AM
I would not be suprised to see Wilson go #1 overall when it is all said and done.

I think he has at least equal NFL potential as any other prospect this year.

MahiMike
10-30-2012, 07:49 AM
I hear you but, Geno hasn't shown he has "it" imo. When the game is on the line, he generally doesn't make the play that the QB has to make. For example, when you are down 21-7, you have to convert the 3rd and 5 to keep the drive going. He doesn't do that and he seems to lose his composure when he gets behind. He's not the least bit clutch in my opinion. He will have more opprotunities to prove he can do this.

I agree on the composure aspect. Big red flag to me.

htismaqe
10-30-2012, 07:50 AM
Coming into the season I liked Bray the most also. Was used to the toughest competition on the SEC, had the size, has the best arm.

But then after watching him play several times this year, I'm convinced he should stay in school. He's just not ready. This guy if he is everything he's suppose to be should be dominating college football and he just isn't.

Jay Cutler has the size, the best arm, and was tested against SEC competition too.

Sometimes guys just aren't winners.

Woodchuck
10-30-2012, 09:06 AM
Jay Cutler has the size, the best arm, and was tested against SEC competition too.

Sometimes guys just aren't winners.

Jay Cutler is a winner though. He wins in the NFL. I have no idea where you are coming from? Hell, he won some games at Vanderbilt and was the 2005 SEC Offensive Player of the Year. Do you know how hard it is to win at Vanderbilt? That's where smart people go to school. It's hard to get in there.

Some of you guys need to come back down to earth and quit talking Superbowls etc. We would be lucky to have Cutler. I have no idea how you can even begin to think that any of these three QBs will have a better career than Cutler. None of them have shown enough to warrant that opinion from what I have seen.

and I don't even like Jay Cutler....

htismaqe
10-30-2012, 09:10 AM
Jay Cutler is a winner though. He wins in the NFL. I have no idea where you are coming from?

Some of you guys need to come back down to earth and quit talking Superbowls etc. We would be lucky to have Cutler. I have no idea how you can even begin to think that any of these three QBs will have a better career than Cutler. None of them have shown enough to warrant that opinion from what I have seen.

and I don't even like Jay Cutler....

You have the biggest double standard on QBs. You have no credibility on the subject.

Cutler is a royal douche. There is NOTHING to like about him unless you're a Jeff George fan.

MIAdragon
10-30-2012, 09:20 AM
Jay Cutler is a winner though. He wins in the NFL. I have no idea where you are coming from? Hell, he won some games at Vanderbilt and was the 2005 SEC Offensive Player of the Year. Do you know how hard it is to win at Vanderbilt? That's where smart people go to school. It's hard to get in there.

Some of you guys need to come back down to earth and quit talking Superbowls etc. We would be lucky to have Cutler. I have no idea how you can even begin to think that any of these three QBs will have a better career than Cutler. None of them have shown enough to warrant that opinion from what I have seen.

and I don't even like Jay Cutler....

Lolz, would we by "lucky" to have Rex Grossman, Mark Sanchez or Kordell Stewart? They are all "winners" in your book. They all have the same wining percentage in the NFL. No thanks, we need to aim a tad higher than this.

Woodchuck
10-30-2012, 09:25 AM
You have the biggest double standard on QBs. You have no credibility on the subject.

Cutler is a royal douche. There is NOTHING to like about him unless you're a Jeff George fan.

I do? ROFL

You say you want a QB with the "it" factor and you hitch your wagon to Geno Smith?

Personally, I don't think you know half of what you are talking about most of the time. Maybe it's because you don't have credibility with me?

I mean, look at this argument. You're the one that brought Cutler up asking for this but you really don't know a damn thing about the guy.

Bears fans seem to like him. They went through exactly what we went through trying to get a QB. Look at them now. They have the best shot at winning a Superbowl since 1985. I think we'd be lucky to have him.

http://www.dabears.com/showthread.php?45413-quot-This-one-is-different-quot

Woodchuck
10-30-2012, 09:28 AM
Lolz, would we by "lucky" to have Rex Grossman, Mark Sanchez or Kordell Stewart? They are all "winners" in your book. They all have the same wining percentage in the NFL. No thanks, we need to aim a tad higher than this.

Cutler is above the level of those QBs. He has the "it" factor. 13 fourth quarter comebacks and 17 game-winning drives is pretty damn good in six years.


Look at that 2006 draft and tell me if you see similarities?



Here's the order the first round QBs taken back then:

1. Vince Young - system QB

2. Matt Leinart - big shot USC guy

3. Jay Cutler - played for a bad team in the SEC



Don't most expect:

1. Geno Smith - system QB

2. Matt Barkley - big shot USC guy

3. Tyler Wilson - played for a bad team in the SEC

There is plenty to like about Cutler compared to those other 2006 guys.

htismaqe
10-30-2012, 09:37 AM
I do? ROFL

You say you want a QB with the "it" factor and you hitch your wagon to Geno Smith?

I haven't hitched my wagon to anybody.

I like Smith's potential.

htismaqe
10-30-2012, 09:37 AM
Cutler is above the level of those QBs. He has the "it" factor.

Yep, you're clueless.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-30-2012, 10:51 AM
Yep, you're clueless.

OMG, did he really say "Cutler"?

LMAO

htismaqe
10-30-2012, 12:07 PM
OMG, did he really say "Cutler"?

LMAO

He said Cutler has "it". :hmmm:

Woodchuck
10-30-2012, 12:18 PM
He said Cutler has "it". :hmmm:

It's not like he showed it the day before yesterday or anything ROFL. This is what "it" looks like on paper.

Chicago Bears at 2:27

1st and 10 at CHI 22

(Shotgun) J.Cutler pass short middle to M.Forte to CHI 26 for 4 yards (L.Kuechly).

2nd and 6 at CHI 26

(No Huddle, Shotgun) J.Cutler pass short left to B.Marshall to CHI 34 for 8 yards (J.Norman).

1st and 10 at CHI 34

(Shotgun) J.Cutler pass short left to E.Bennett to CHI 46 for 12 yards (C.Munnerlyn).

1st and 10 at CHI 46

(No Huddle, Shotgun) J.Cutler pass short left to B.Marshall to CAR 47 for 7 yards (L.Kuechly).

2nd and 3 at CAR 47

(No Huddle, Shotgun) J.Cutler pass incomplete short left to E.Bennett.

3rd and 3 at CAR 47

(Shotgun) J.Cutler pass short middle to B.Marshall to CAR 36 for 11 yards (C.Munnerlyn).

1st and 10 at CAR 36

(No Huddle, Shotgun) J.Cutler pass short left to B.Marshall to CAR 26 for 10 yards (J.Norman).

1st and 10 at CAR 26

(No Huddle, Shotgun) M.Forte right guard to CAR 23 for 3 yards (C.Johnson).

Timeout #3 by CHI at 00:04.

2nd and 7 at CAR 23

(Field Goal formation) R.Gould 41 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-P.Mannelly, Holder-A.Podlesh.


http://espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=321028003&period=4

Ebolapox
10-30-2012, 12:28 PM
I'm shocked anybody takes his opinions seriously. major league tard is black rob.

Ebolapox
10-30-2012, 12:30 PM
he's a racist mother****er too. he walked in on me ****ing his whore of a mother, but only freaked out because I'm black. ****ed him up mentally, so he went to a therapist. one day, he walked in me sticking my dick in the white therapist lady's ass. he ran out of the room crying like a little bitch. hell, he flinches when he sees anybody black. he's a racist piece of shit and should be advised that racism isn't allowed on this forum.

racist asshole. we black people are people too--same ****ing species and everything. **** off, you racist dickhead.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-30-2012, 12:39 PM
He said Cutler has "it". :hmmm:

I suppose herpes + suckage can constitute "it"...

ChiefsCountry
10-30-2012, 12:39 PM
I'm shocked anybody takes his opinions seriously. major league tard is black rob.

This. He has to be the stupidest fucker ever on here and that is saying something.

htismaqe
10-30-2012, 01:38 PM
It's not like he showed it the day before yesterday or anything ROFL. This is what "it" looks like on paper.

ROFL

"IT" looks like THIS:

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2012/02/05/Giants-rally-to-nip-Pats-in-Super-Bowl-C5UUD7E-x-large.jpg

Not this:

http://blog.leagueplus.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Cutler1.jpg

Woodchuck
10-30-2012, 01:45 PM
ROFL

"IT" looks like THIS:

Not this:



:facepalm: I finally understand you.

You are the guy that buys $1,000 worth of lottery tickets when the lottery gets over $200 million.

htismaqe
10-30-2012, 01:49 PM
:facepalm: I finally understand you.

You are the guy that buys $1,000 worth of lottery tickets when the lottery gets over $200 million.

Nope. Your analogy is dumb.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-30-2012, 01:50 PM
Nope. Your analogy is dumb.

I propose that the mods change his name to "Geno's Chocolate Penis".

Chocolate Hog
10-30-2012, 02:29 PM
Have we seen anything from any of these guys where we can say he has "it"?

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-30-2012, 02:31 PM
I propose that the mods change his name to "Geno's Chocolate Penis".

ROFL Seconded

Woodchuck
10-30-2012, 02:34 PM
Have we seen anything from any of these guys where we can say he has "it"?

Wilson has definately shown it the most out of the three. However, the more I read about Mike Glennon, QB NC State, the more I like. He looks like the most clutch of the three. He also looks like the best leader. He has shown "it" multiple times and has led them back in some big games. He converted two 4th downs and a TD in the final minute to beat #3 ranked Florida State this year. That's exactly the sort of thing we need. Check out yesterday's article by Bucky Brooks from .

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=265929

Sorter
10-30-2012, 02:59 PM
ROFL Seconded

Thirded

htismaqe
10-30-2012, 03:04 PM
Have we seen anything from any of these guys where we can say he has "it"?

No.

But we've certainly seen enough of Jay Cutler to know he doesn't have "it".

gohogs14
10-30-2012, 06:55 PM
I forgot this was a Wilson thread. As far as Tyler Wilson goes...the limited sample size that I've seen from him, he reminds me a bit of Christian Ponder.

I dont think thats a terrible comparison, but Wilson has a stronger arm

Mr_Tomahawk
11-03-2012, 10:28 AM
Game on.

Detoxing
11-03-2012, 10:42 AM
Game on.

He had a nice first drive.

NewChief
11-03-2012, 11:08 AM
Whoever says his toughness is questionable is fucking nuts. He's just been absolutely hammered in this game as well, and he just keeps getting up.

ILChief
11-03-2012, 11:17 AM
I keep going back and forth between Wilson, Geno, and Barkley. I guess it really depends on the coach/offense we have. If it's a west coast offense, then Barkley would be the best guy. If it's a wide open/spread offense, then Geno. Wilson would probably be OK in any type of offense. The other two really need a scheme to fit their strengths.

Mr_Tomahawk
11-03-2012, 11:26 AM
I keep going back and forth between Wilson, Geno, and Barkley. I guess it really depends on the coach/offense we have. If it's a west coast offense, then Barkley would be the best guy. If it's a wide open/spread offense, then Geno. Wilson would probably be OK in any type of offense. The other two really need a scheme to fit their strengths.

Genobators will light you up if they see this...

ILChief
11-03-2012, 11:28 AM
Genobators will light you up if they see this...

Probably.

O.city
11-03-2012, 11:30 AM
Wilson has stood in and delivered good throws against pressure. However a lot of his throws are short to wrs letting them make plays

NewChief
11-03-2012, 11:33 AM
Horrible throw for a pick. His stock is plummeting.

O.city
11-03-2012, 11:34 AM
Turrible throw there

Rausch
11-03-2012, 11:35 AM
I like him.

Footwork is good, nice drop back, average arm...

SNR
11-03-2012, 11:36 AM
The other two really need a scheme to fit their strengths.

Get a brain.

ILChief
11-03-2012, 11:37 AM
Wilson will be the third QB taken, probably in the 10-15 range. If we end up with him it is because we traded down

ILChief
11-03-2012, 11:38 AM
Get a brain.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--umsTrXBdgA/TyJ1f3S-G1I/AAAAAAAADsk/iEelFCoyxWc/s400/4e77b7ed_get-a-brain-morans.jpg

You forgot Moran :)

Mr_Tomahawk
11-03-2012, 12:13 PM
Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71
Wilson shows some arm strength on that hitch route.

Mr_Tomahawk
11-03-2012, 01:43 PM
Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71
Tyler Wilson with a good strike, then under thrown deep ball WR adjusted and a quick strike on the screen. 60+ yds in 3 plays.

Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71
OH MY!! Tyler Wilson gets lit up by a free blitz but good throw and conversion. Unreal! Pops back up and ready to go next play.

Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71
You want to know how dumb Arkansas coaching staff is? QB has been killed on every PA attempt. So they run a PA/Boot wheel route.

Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71
Tyler Wilson knocked down 8 times in the game. 1 sack.

Sorter
11-03-2012, 01:53 PM
Arkansas's coaching staff is solely responsible for Wilson's lack of improvement this season, IMO.

Mr_Tomahawk
11-03-2012, 01:58 PM
Arkansas's coaching staff is solely responsible for Wilson's lack of improvement this season, IMO.

No shit.

NewChief
11-03-2012, 02:24 PM
Arkansas's coaching staff is solely responsible for Wilson's lack of improvement this season, IMO.

Uhhh. Yeah. Another year under Bobby Petrino, and Wilson is probably the top QB pick of the draft.

gohogs14
11-04-2012, 12:17 AM
With South Carolina and LSU coming up im not sure if i want to see how hard he's going to be hit against those DL's...i think him playing hurt is affecting him too

Cobi Hamilton is money though

ncCHIEFfan
11-04-2012, 06:22 AM
Uhhh. Yeah. Another year under Bobby Petrino, and Wilson is probably the top QB pick of the draft.


No doubt in my mind

Woodchuck
11-04-2012, 07:42 AM
Uhhh. Yeah. Another year under Bobby Petrino, and Wilson is probably the top QB pick of the draft.

Absolutely

Chief Roundup
11-04-2012, 07:44 AM
Cobi Hamilton is money though

That guys bears watching. He is getting a lot of Andre Johnson comparisons.

Detoxing
11-04-2012, 10:20 AM
Get a brain.

I know you are a big time Geno Ball Washer, but if you're honest with yourself, Geno was not the best QB yesterday. He looked the most raw of the three. Every game that goes by, i think both Barkely and Wilson are making a case that they should be drafted ahead of Geno.

Geno looks lost in the pocket. When his recievers are blanketed, he starts looking like Cassel.

Yeah, i said it. Like Cassel. He does not play well under pressure.

KILLER_CLOWN
11-04-2012, 10:22 AM
I'm starting to warm up a bit to Tyler Wilson, some really good arguments being made for him.

Detoxing
11-04-2012, 10:25 AM
I'm starting to warm up a bit to Tyler Wilson, some really good arguments being made for him.

Gotta watch the games. Hell, i didn't believe in Barkely till i actually sat down and watched him these last few weeks. Previously i had just been listening to people here.

Big Mistake.

Three horse race right here. All 3 have Warts, all 3 have Elite potential.

htismaqe
11-04-2012, 12:09 PM
I said it a couple of weeks ago - I've warmed up considerably to the idea of drafting Wilson.

I have real concerns about his leadership but it is pretty obvious he is in a situation that doesn't allow one to demonstrate much leadership.

Geno's footwork REALLY worries me.

rabblerouser
11-04-2012, 12:22 PM
Geno Smith vs Tyler Wilson.

I'd rather have a root canal than either one.

Messier
11-04-2012, 12:29 PM
I'd rather have a root canal than either one.

Who would you like as the Chiefs QB next season?

Chiefnj2
11-04-2012, 12:47 PM
All 3 have Warts, all 3 have Elite potential.

I'm not sure of the "elite" potential for any of them.

suds79
11-04-2012, 12:51 PM
Watched the Tulsa game yesterday.

Saw a lot of things I liked. He's tough. Accurate & has a strong arm.

One consistent thing I saw that I didn't like was he throws off his back foot alot when facing pressure up the middle.

There was his first throw of the day (I believe) where he stood in there, stepped into this throw, took a massive shot but threw a pretty ball down the sideline. It was great. The rest of the game though? Would consistently throw off his back foot fading away against pressure up the middle and relying on his arm to hit those short crossing routes... Completed a lot of them but on the ones where it would be short, it was easy to see why.

Mr_Tomahawk
11-04-2012, 12:53 PM
Watched the Tulsa game yesterday.

Saw a lot of things I liked. He's tough. Accurate & has a strong arm.

One consistent thing I saw that I didn't like was he throws off his back foot alot when facing pressure up the middle.

There was his first throw of the day (I believe) where he stood in there, stepped into this throw, took a massive shot but threw a pretty ball down the sideline. It was great. The rest of the game though? Would consistently throw off his back foot fading away against pressure up the middle and relying on his arm to hit those short crossing routes... Completed a lot of them but on the ones where it would be short, it was easy to see why.

Geno wouldn't be able to handle half the shots Wilson has taken thus far this season...

rico
11-04-2012, 12:55 PM
Wilson = Ponder.

Mr_Tomahawk
11-04-2012, 12:56 PM
Wilson = Ponder.

How...?

suds79
11-04-2012, 12:56 PM
Geno wouldn't be able to handle half the shots Wilson has taken thus far this season...

Maybe so. I mean that 1st shot to talked about was about as big of a hit as you could take. But to his credit, he stood in there.

I don't know if that shot effected him the rest of the game but just relaying what I saw.

Overall I liked what I saw.

suds79
11-04-2012, 12:56 PM
Wilson = Ponder.

I don't think Ponder has the arm Wilson has.

NewChief
11-04-2012, 12:57 PM
Watched the Tulsa game yesterday.

Saw a lot of things I liked. He's tough. Accurate & has a strong arm.

One consistent thing I saw that I didn't like was he throws off his back foot alot when facing pressure up the middle.

There was his first throw of the day (I believe) where he stood in there, stepped into this throw, took a massive shot but threw a pretty ball down the sideline. It was great. The rest of the game though? Would consistently throw off his back foot fading away against pressure up the middle and relying on his arm to hit those short crossing routes... Completed a lot of them but on the ones where it would be short, it was easy to see why.

This is the second game in a row where he's taken a big shot early then been somewhat rattled the rest of the game (last week, he actually got diagnosed with a hip pointer after the game, I believe). It's strange, because he took shots last year (the 'Bama game last year was UGLY) and kept on stepping in and delivering the ball. I think the hopelessness of this team has gotten to him. On top of that, there's no Bobby Petrino to hold their feet to the fire when they **** up. I'm not making excuses, but I can't really figure out why he seems to get more rattled this year than he did last year from those hard hits. He's still tough as shit, though.

Mr_Tomahawk
11-04-2012, 12:57 PM
I don't think Ponder has the arm Wilson has.

He does'nt.

I don't know why people make this comparison.

If anything, I would compare Wilson to Rivers.

Sorter
11-04-2012, 12:58 PM
He doesn't.

O.city
11-04-2012, 12:58 PM
Last years luck and griffin have some what blinded people about prospects.


Most years the top guys aren't locks like they were. Newton, Ryan , Big Ben, Eli etc had some question marks. Not all big ones but some questions

rico
11-04-2012, 01:09 PM
How...?

In almost every facet of the game, imo. Same size. He's a gunslinger with intangibles and ability to complete the throws necessary to succeed in the NFL. However, he has similar durability concerns as Ponder and the questionable decisions he makes every once in a while seem Ponder-esque to me. I consider him a mid-to-late 1st round pick...where Ponder should have been. Comparing him to Ponder isn't necessarily a bad thing...Ponder has flashed and he may improve... I just don't think Wilson is worth a top 1-5 pick where I am assuming the Chiefs will be selecting.

milkman
11-04-2012, 01:11 PM
In almost every facet of the game, imo. Same size. He's a gunslinger with intangibles and ability to complete the throws necessary to succeed in the NFL. However, he has similar durability concerns as Ponder and the questionable decisions he makes every once in a while seem Ponder-esque to me. I consider him a mid-to-late 1st round pick...where Ponder should have been. Comparing him to Ponder isn't necessarily a bad thing...Ponder has flashed and he may improve... I just don't think Wilson is worth a top 1-5 pick where I am assuming the Chiefs will be selecting.

Wilson has durability concerns?

rico
11-04-2012, 01:12 PM
He does'nt.

I don't know why people make this comparison.

If anything, I would compare Wilson to Rivers.

I can see that. Minus the odd delivery. Kind of a Rivers/Cutler combo, as ironic as that is considering those 2 hate each other.

htismaqe
11-04-2012, 01:12 PM
He does'nt.

I don't know why people make this comparison.

If anything, I would compare Wilson to Rivers.

That's not a good thing, IMO.

htismaqe
11-04-2012, 01:13 PM
I can see that. Minus the odd delivery. Kind of a Rivers/Cutler combo, as ironic as that is considering those 2 hate each other.

They're both giant douchebags, so yeah.

Mr_Tomahawk
11-04-2012, 01:14 PM
Wilson has durability concerns?

No.

The opposite if anything.

He had a concussion earlier this year...and as others have stated, he is a tough son of a bitch. The shots he takes would put most QBs in this draft out of the game. Wilson gets up when you want him to stay down for his own good...

He is durable.

Mr_Tomahawk
11-04-2012, 01:15 PM
That's not a good thing, IMO.

And people are floating Jason Campbell comparisons around in regards to Geno...

htismaqe
11-04-2012, 01:16 PM
And people are floating Jason Campbell comparisons around in regards to Geno...

Who said anything about Geno?

Mr_Tomahawk
11-04-2012, 01:18 PM
Who said anything about Geno?

Bucky Brooks,

"Geno Smith- Jason Campbell

He is a big guy, not necessarily the most nimble athlete you see playing most spread systems. He is someone that is going to beat you with his arm. I like his accuracy. I like his leadership. I like his poise. I also wouldn't dismiss the comparison to Alex Smith. He has that kind of game. He could be a top 10 pick and I think scouts are going to fall in love with him."

htismaqe
11-04-2012, 01:20 PM
Bucky Brooks,

"Geno Smith- Jason Campbell

He is a big guy, not necessarily the most nimble athlete you see playing most spread systems. He is someone that is going to beat you with his arm. I like his accuracy. I like his leadership. I like his poise. I also wouldn't dismiss the comparison to Alex Smith. He has that kind of game. He could be a top 10 pick and I think scouts are going to fall in love with him."

Again, we were talking about Tyler Wilson. So do you have a point or are you just naturally defensive for no reason?

Mr_Tomahawk
11-04-2012, 01:23 PM
Again, we were talking about Tyler Wilson. So do you have a point or are you just naturally defensive for no reason?

Pointing out that when questionable comparisons are made, it is better to read between the lines than to take it 1:1...

Tyler Wilson is NOT Rivers...but I see more Rivers in Wilson than I see Ponder. Just like Geno isn't Jason Campbell...but I can see the comparisons. FWIW, I do not see the Alex Smith comparison.

rico
11-04-2012, 01:25 PM
Wilson has durability concerns?

Depends on who you ask and how you look at it. The shots he has taken have proven him to be tough, but have led to the durability concerns in my opinion. I wouldn't say the durability concerns are totally glaring, but I'd say they are moderate. To be honest, less glaring then Ponder, which contradicts my statements regarding their comparison, "every facet of the game," "Wilson = Ponder," etc.

I'm not totally low on the guy....just not totally high on the guy...I think we can do better with where we'll be selecting. Could be wrong though. I wouldn't be heartbroken if we selected him, but would feel apprehensive.

htismaqe
11-04-2012, 01:26 PM
Pointing out that when questionable comparisons are made, it is better to read between the lines than to take it 1:1...

Tyler Wilson is NOT Rivers...but I see more Rivers in Wilson than I see Ponder. Just like Geno isn't Jason Campbell...but I can see the comparisons. FWIW, I do not see the Alex Smith comparison.

I was reading between the lines.

The only big question mark about Wilson has to do with what's in his CHEST.

That's why the comparisons to Rivers are unfortunate - Rivers has a giant vagina in his.

htismaqe
11-04-2012, 01:28 PM
Depends on who you ask and how you look at it. The shots he has taken have proven him to be tough, but have led to the durability concerns in my opinion. I wouldn't say the durability concerns are totally glaring, but I'd say they are moderate. To be honest, less glaring then Ponder, which contradicts my statements regarding their comparison, "every facet of the game," "Wilson = Ponder," etc.

I'm not totally low on the guy....just not totally high on the guy...I think we can do better with where we'll be selecting. Could be wrong though. I wouldn't be heartbroken if we selected him, but would feel apprehensive.

Who would you say is better?

Geno has REALLY come back to the pack. Are you that high on Barkley?