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Deberg_1990
09-20-2012, 11:55 AM
Didnt see a thread. Anyone else watch?

Lisa (Blair)Whelchel from Facts of Life and Former MLB star Jeff Kent!!
I thought it was a good beginning. Thoughts?

OmahaChief
09-20-2012, 12:45 PM
I enjoyed the first episodebut the person that was booted probably played the dumbest 3days of survivor ever.

Deberg_1990
09-20-2012, 12:48 PM
I enjoyed the first episodebut the person that was booted probably played the dumbest 3days of survivor ever.

Heh, yea he didn’t seem too bright, but I enjoyed his personality. I was shocked by that one girl who noticed who Jeff Kent was.

Buck
09-20-2012, 01:09 PM
I'm glad they got rid of the white trash in the first episode.

Chiefnj2
09-20-2012, 01:43 PM
I don't like 3 tribes. I find the eye candy on yellow to be annoying. The blue tribe is weak.

Aries Walker
09-20-2012, 01:51 PM
Zed or Zack or whatever his name was wasn't just stupid, he was pathetically out of shape. I can't run wind sprints like I could when I was in high school either, but I'm not on a survival-themed game show where it's expected. He was the right choice to go . . .

But Russell isn't far behind. He's going out of his way to paint a giant target on his back. The redneck's brazen incompetence is the only reason he's still there.

I think Blair's going to melt down soon, or just voted off because 40-something women tend to get booted quickly in this game - usually at the hands of a coven of 20-something women.

I classify the Brazilian woman as Instantly Annoying, meaning she'll probably make final four. I like the sex therapist and the young black ministry woman, but they could both change in an instant. Penner is doomed, Skupin only slightly less so. The woman who made an alliance with Malcolm made the best play all day. I don't think Kent's knee is hurt nearly as badly as he seemed to think.

Deberg_1990
09-20-2012, 01:55 PM
I don't think Kent's knee is hurt nearly as badly as he seemed to think.
Agreed. Hes gone as soon as the rest find out who he really is and they will

frankotank
09-20-2012, 02:07 PM
I love this show!
Russell is a total dumbass! Nice call having Frankenstein do the running part. Very lucky to still be in the game.
Johnathan…..uggg…..he won’t be around long because he’s too big of an asshole.
The returning fire hands dude….WTF! How in the HELL can you hurt yourself so damn much?
I’ve wondered if anyone on the show has had sex during their tenure? You’d think after all these seasons that SOMEBODY must have done some bikini boinking!

I was shocked by that one girl who noticed who Jeff Kent was.

I couldn’t BELIEVE IT!!!!

I think Blair's going to melt down soon.

You’re only saying that because the previews for next week showed Blair melting down! :D

Chiefnj2
09-20-2012, 02:10 PM
tons of spoilers this year.

OmahaChief
09-20-2012, 03:24 PM
Heh, yea he didn’t seem too bright, but I enjoyed his personality. I was shocked by that one girl who noticed who Jeff Kent was.

I was shocked too. Hell most of the guys I know would have not known him. I am also shocked noone but Skupin recognized Blair. That might just be my age showing though.

Buck
09-20-2012, 04:02 PM
tons of spoilers this year.

Please do not post them.

Aries Walker
09-20-2012, 04:31 PM
I was shocked too. Hell most of the guys I know would have not known him. I am also shocked noone but Skupin recognized Blair. That might just be my age showing though.
More to the point, it shows the contestants' age. Someone who is 24 - which a lot of those contestants are, roughly - was born the year Facts of Life went off the air. Thinking back to when I was in my low 20's, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have recognized the older versions of anyone from, say, Rat Patrol or Daktari.

NJChiefsFan
09-21-2012, 01:08 AM
I don't like 3 tribes. I find the eye candy on yellow to be annoying. The blue tribe is weak.

I am not sure I agree. I think so far the best alliance I saw was Malcolm and the therapist. They both seemed fairly intelligent and aware of how the game works. I enjoyed the returning Australia contestant as well.

I always rooted for Russel in the first one but man he needs to chill. Everything he said about himself at tribal was right but he needs to actually put that in action. Damage may be done at this point. Hypothetically if Kent survives he better figure out a way to get the people that know him off the show without saying anything or on the jury.

Both the young girls on yellow annoyed me. The white guy on yellow seems to have a brick in his head. I also was impressed with the chick that knew who Jeff Kent was.

Chiefnj2
09-21-2012, 08:38 AM
[QUOTE=NJChiefsFan;8932371]I am not sure I agree. I think so far the best alliance I saw was Malcolm and the therapist. They both seemed fairly intelligent and aware of how the game works.

When I said weak I meant physically. They are the ones who blew the challenge for blue. They had a sizeable lead when it was their turn to row and they completely lost it.

Aries Walker
09-21-2012, 08:40 AM
I think that's a casting thing. Whenever they have a contestant who is mildly famous but wants to keep it secret, they always seem to put someone else in the game - if not on their team - who knows. When Gary Hogeboom was on and trying to keep his identity secret, they had Danni Boatwright right there, and she recognized him immediately. I don't think that's an accident.

Bump
09-27-2012, 12:14 AM
I watched my first episode of Survivor tonight. Gat DAMN that blonde chick is SMOKING

Fairplay
09-27-2012, 12:42 AM
I think that's a casting thing. Whenever they have a contestant who is mildly famous but wants to keep it secret, they always seem to put someone else in the game - if not on their team - who knows. When Gary Hogeboom was on and trying to keep his identity secret, they had Danni Boatwright right there, and she recognized him immediately. I don't think that's an accident.




I agree. Seems fishy to me. Recognizing Lisa yes, Jeff Kent doubtful.

NJChiefsFan
09-27-2012, 12:55 AM
I would enjoy a Russel, Malcolm, and therapist alliance.

Yellow, the blonde chick went a little crazy going nuts about her partner talking to another person. Not much else happened, although I do feel bad for Lisa even if she is in part doing it to herself. I usually am a sucker for the breakdowns, especially when its the older female for whatever reason.

Red, not sure how they bought that glasses story. That seems like the tribe most likely to stick together after a merge.

Aries Walker
09-27-2012, 02:56 AM
The quickest way to be the first person out is to be the one who doesn't fit in. For a self-avowed life-long superfan, Lisa sure is doing everything she can to get herself sent packin', and soon.

Fruit Ninja
09-27-2012, 03:58 AM
I agree. Seems fishy to me. Recognizing Lisa yes, Jeff Kent doubtful.

if you watched baseball as a casual fan you would know who Jeff Kent is. Dude was known as a huge douchebag and frequently arguing with Barry Bonds while they were on the same fucking team and back in the early 2000's Barry Bonds was ALWAYS on tv.

Deberg_1990
09-27-2012, 07:32 AM
I watched my first episode of Survivor tonight. Gat DAMN that blonde chick is SMOKING

She is, but shes really dumb..... "I want cookies" WTF????

IM guessing Russel kept her because he felt she was slighty better in the challenges than the other girl.

Chiefnj2
09-27-2012, 08:15 AM
She is, but shes really dumb..... "I want cookies" WTF????

IM guessing Russel kept her because he felt she was slighty better in the challenges than the other girl.

There was a lot of anger, jealousy and resentment in the ministry girl.

Just as bad as the "cookies" comment was the ministry girl saying she didn't drink enough water prior to the challenge so she couldn't go twice. It was raining 3 straight days and you are complaining of dehydration? Open your mouth and look up. This isn't old survivor where they didn't give you fire or potable water or other supplies to start the game off.

NJChiefsFan
09-27-2012, 01:34 PM
There was a lot of anger, jealousy and resentment in the ministry girl.

Just as bad as the "cookies" comment was the ministry girl saying she didn't drink enough water prior to the challenge so she couldn't go twice. It was raining 3 straight days and you are complaining of dehydration? Open your mouth and look up. This isn't old survivor where they didn't give you fire or potable water or other supplies to start the game off.

Yep. Russel also may see that going with Malcolm and the therapist is the way to go. I do find it silly of Malcolm to not have gone to the therapist and let her know that she was still his #1. Unless they just didn't show it.

frankotank
09-27-2012, 02:03 PM
There was a lot of anger, jealousy and resentment in the ministry girl.

Just as bad as the "cookies" comment was the ministry girl saying she didn't drink enough water prior to the challenge so she couldn't go twice. It was raining 3 straight days and you are complaining of dehydration? Open your mouth and look up. This isn't old survivor where they didn't give you fire or potable water or other supplies to start the game off.

well hells bells! I thought she said I drank plenty of water so I CAN go twice??
man every time somebody said ANYTHING Roxy would make a face like she just ate a turd. good frigging riddance. what a B. the chip on her shoulder over the hot blonde was the size of a cow patty. for GODS SAKE woman....jealous much?

NJChiefsFan
10-03-2012, 10:29 PM
Well the three I thought would make a cool alliance are the only three left on blue. I thought it was cool that the producers called out Angie by showing her say "I can't do this" on the captioning.

The Maria chick on yellow that got the idol seems like a bit of a nut job. Her buddy continues to show he is a meat head, despite what he keeps saying about himself. He does have the desire to control things, I will give him that.

Seems like there isn't going to be much sitting back and playing nice in this season. I like the thought of that. I figure if blue loses again they will split blue up and put them with the other tribes. That could make Malcolm and the therapist dangerous if they gain some friends and unite again during the merge. That's my crazy prediction of what happens.

Aries Walker
10-03-2012, 10:43 PM
Nope. They'll let in dwindle down to nothing. That happened one season - one team did so monumentally badly that they literally got wiped out to the last player.

And Abi-Marie is a horrible person. Not only that, but she's a bad player, and paranoid.

Chiefnj2
10-03-2012, 10:58 PM
I always thought it was silly for teams to talk about who to vote off next before challenges. Deep down wouldn't the team fight harder if everyone thought it was their neck on the line?

There aren't many people I like this year. Jeff Kent, an adult, really said his handshake didn't count because it was a 4 finger shake? Does he have a first grade mentality? And that Columbian girl is absolutely nuts. They yellow team needs to get sent to council just so her paranoia level can jump another 10 degrees.

I think it's an absolute joke the other teams have to sit players in challenges, and they can keep sitting their weakest players. There were enough puzzle pieces for everyone on the team to get one.

NJChiefsFan
10-20-2012, 02:36 AM
For the first time in a few seasons I finally have somebody I really want to win, Denise. I don't like Pete, but I give him props for planting the clue. Sucks the one chick had to leave for being sick, I didn't mind her.

NJChiefsFan
10-25-2012, 01:21 AM
I enjoyed when Carter asked Penner "Katie or Penner?". Little Freudian slip that Penner didn't seem to notice.

Aries Walker
10-25-2012, 01:39 AM
Carter is a zero. He's a seat-filler, he does absolutely nothing around camp, and apparently has a brain set permanently to 'follow'.

The yellow-tribe people who aren't part of the insufferable threesome - Abi, Pete, and whatever the black guy's name is - had better get their act together and solidify themselves against; otherwise, they're going to get picked off one by one.

NJChiefsFan
10-25-2012, 01:56 AM
Carter is a zero. He's a seat-filler, he does absolutely nothing around camp, and apparently has a brain set permanently to 'follow'.

The yellow-tribe people who aren't part of the insufferable threesome - Abi, Pete, and whatever the black guy's name is - had better get their act together and solidify themselves against; otherwise, they're going to get picked off one by one.

Agreed on all points. Carter would be a good person for Jeff to keep around. I would like to see Denise get Carter to join her and Malcolm at the merge. He is a vote and no threat to them.

As for yellow, thats exactly what I was thinking. Its pretty damn simple too. All they need to have happen is for Malcolm and the Facts of Life chick to join with the two on the "outs". Hard to tell how much of that conversation is going on with the producers really only showing serious strategy going on in the red tribe.

Chiefnj2
10-25-2012, 07:08 AM
Reaching an agreement before RC had a turn in the mud is criminal.

Maybe I missed it, but why didn't the red team tell the yellow team "Thanks for the food and the notes from home? Yeah, we all had letters waiting for us." Don't you think that would have gotten in their heads a bit?

I love it when people who don't participate in challenges complain about the people competing, especially this year when you don't have to rotate participants, etc.

KCUnited
10-25-2012, 07:50 AM
RC is a ring on her finger away from 200 lbs, but I bet she'd be a fun FWB.

WV
10-25-2012, 07:53 AM
Reaching an agreement before RC had a turn in the mud is criminal.

Maybe I missed it, but why didn't the red team tell the yellow team "Thanks for the food and the notes from home? Yeah, we all had letters waiting for us." Don't you think that would have gotten in their heads a bit?

I love it when people who don't participate in challenges complain about the people competing, especially this year when you don't have to rotate participants, etc.

Hopefully shes another one that can't cash in on her 5 minutes and turns to nudity.

DaKCMan AP
10-25-2012, 08:07 AM
Reaching an agreement before RC had a turn in the mud is criminal.


LMAO She's my favorite.

I can't stand the Brazilian chick. Her attitude is awful, she's annoying, and she acts like she's the hottest chick on the island while she's worthless around camp (other than cooking & complaining) and doesn't participate in 75% of the challenges.

Chiefnj2
10-25-2012, 11:24 AM
The yellow team is so lucky to have kept winning challenges. As a community they are a mess. Artis and Abi have to be two of the biggest negative people on the show ever. It's a shame they haven't had to go to tribal yet to stress those two.

Fruit Ninja
10-25-2012, 11:44 AM
im shocked at Jeff Kent doing so well. Well kinda, Im shocked that dude hasnt called out who he is yet.

i'd have to say its a decent season so far, but i think its gonna get better, we all know Penner is a snake that tries so hard not to portray himself as one. haha

Bump
10-25-2012, 12:02 PM
why do they keep getting rid of all the hot chicks?

Chiefnj2
10-25-2012, 01:38 PM
We are all hungry and have no rice. We will all sit on the beach while we watch Penner snorkel around. Then we will complain how hungry we are while leaning up against our boat and fishing gear.

OmahaChief
10-25-2012, 03:43 PM
We are all hungry and have no rice. We will all sit on the beach while we watch Penner snorkel around. Then we will complain how hungry we are while leaning up against our boat and fishing gear.

That part last night made me laugh. No one else was willing to do anything else to get food.

Aries Walker
10-25-2012, 06:17 PM
If the three-person Evil Bastard alliance ends up winning out, I'm prepared to think Pete may be the most brilliant player in Survivor history. He's completely calling the shots there, and no one - up to and including his own allies - know it.

Fruit Ninja
10-25-2012, 06:26 PM
We are all hungry and have no rice. We will all sit on the beach while we watch Penner snorkel around. Then we will complain how hungry we are while leaning up against our boat and fishing gear.

Well, it was his fucking deal. He's the one that said he will go fishing he will catch fish. I mean eventually you gotta do something, but he's the one making deals that alot of people didnt want.

NJChiefsFan
10-25-2012, 08:54 PM
To be fair Penner did promise he would catch the fish if they made the deal. Still, if I was starving I would make a damn attempt at it. I agree that Abi is going to be a nut at tribal. When she goes off that alliance is going to be tested, and hopefully splintered.

I also am not sure how unaware people are of Pete. They just haven't had a reason to test or show the issues at yellow that deeply. I doubt RC and Mike don't see it. RC has already mentioned it. All they have to do is join Malcolm and the Facts of Life lady. They get Abi to blow up at her and boom, its 4 on 3 just like that.

DaKCMan AP
10-25-2012, 09:06 PM
Well, it was his fucking deal. He's the one that said he will go fishing he will catch fish. I mean eventually you gotta do something, but he's the one making deals that alot of people didnt want.

If they didn't want it then they should have said so. Not a single one of them spoke up.

Fruit Ninja
10-25-2012, 09:08 PM
If they didn't want it then they should have said so. Not a single one of them spoke up.

actually im sure a few did, the black guy spoke up, but he was like they arent listening anyways. haha It was also Penner and the people inside that were going to do the deal anyways, so it didnt matter.

Anyways, i hope more shit like that happens. chaos on tv is fun.

DaKCMan AP
10-25-2012, 09:16 PM
actually im sure a few did, the black guy spoke up, but he was like they arent listening anyways. haha It was also Penner and the people inside that were going to do the deal anyways, so it didnt matter.

Anyways, i hope more shit like that happens. chaos on tv is fun.

Penner is on the red tribe. Artis is on the other tribe.

NJChiefsFan
10-25-2012, 09:24 PM
actually im sure a few did, the black guy spoke up, but he was like they arent listening anyways. haha It was also Penner and the people inside that were going to do the deal anyways, so it didnt matter.

Anyways, i hope more shit like that happens. chaos on tv is fun.

Abi did the "do what you want to do" so that she could let them do something she didn't like and have the ability to bitch about it later.

Dartgod
10-27-2012, 11:03 PM
Abi did the "do what you want to do" so that she could let them do something she didn't like and have the ability to bitch about it later.

She's a fucking worthless twat who's not even a 1/10th as hot as she thinks she is.

NJChiefsFan
10-27-2012, 11:07 PM
She's a ****ing worthless twat who's not even a 1/10th as hot as she thinks she is.

Agreed.

DaKCMan AP
10-29-2012, 10:02 AM
She's a fucking worthless twat who's not even a 1/10th as hot as she thinks she is.

:clap:

Buck
10-29-2012, 10:47 AM
She's the same as that worthless Puerto Rican count from last year.

Aries Walker
10-31-2012, 09:29 PM
Welp, the Alliance of Evil has successfully eliminated the last truly smoking hot woman from the show.

Thanks a lot, Alliance of Evil.

KcMizzou
10-31-2012, 10:13 PM
Welp, the Alliance of Evil has successfully eliminated the last truly smoking hot woman from the show.

Thanks a lot, Alliance of Evil.I will miss that rack.

Bump
10-31-2012, 10:42 PM
I thought these shows are supposed to keep the eye candy

MagicHef
10-31-2012, 11:44 PM
I don't understand the move from Jeff or Carter's point of view. They had to know Penner would use the idol, especially when he heard them talking about voting him out. Therefore, choice A is someone that no one likes and is no threat to win immunity, while choice B is part of the majority alliance and is a big threat to win immunity.

Obviously, vote out choice A because you hate veterans so much.

Chiefnj2
11-08-2012, 12:00 PM
Good episode last night. Good vote out.

Fruit Ninja
11-08-2012, 07:37 PM
i like that they brought back water challenges. It makes it alot better. I wanted Kent to last a bit longer, but he was pretty good in challenges and got his ass voted out. hah

KcMizzou
11-08-2012, 11:47 PM
i like that they brought back water challenges. It makes it alot better. I wanted Kent to last a bit longer, but he was pretty good in challenges and got his ass voted out. hahIt'll be interesting at the end when they reveal that he was an MLB player.

Buck
11-08-2012, 11:47 PM
It'll be interesting at the end when they reveal that he was an MLB player.

I'm sure all the contestants are watching it as it airs.

KcMizzou
11-08-2012, 11:54 PM
I'm sure all the contestants are watching it as it airs.Eh, that's right. Sometimes I forget how this show works.

Fruit Ninja
11-09-2012, 12:03 AM
Eh, that's right. Sometimes I forget how this show works.

i need to check on the Ponderosa stuff on CBS.com, i havent yet this year. I wonder if he revealed it to them there!

HIs comments at the end were pretty funny. Its not even a million bucks, when OBama gets done with it, its more like 600k. haha

DaKCMan AP
11-09-2012, 07:21 AM
Good episode last night. Good vote out.

Yeah. Once there was a vote for Abi you knew that Pete was safe. I was waiting to see who jumped ship but I guess I should have known it was Penner, who was exacting revenge for the prior week.

Aries Walker
11-09-2012, 08:02 AM
Ponderosa stuff.

http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/video/Pq9S_kTnJP_2ONEepaO82wLX5L3y6gdU/survivor-philippines-ponderosa-rc-pt-1

It's no surprise that RC looks good, but she's coming across a little annoying. Also, if she keeps eating like that, she's not going to look good for long.

http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/video/2NMMy3veOJ7wRTlsvmmWc_SGLXfYOEpJ/survivor-philippines-ponderosa-jeff-pt-1

And Jeff is . . . well, Jeff.

Buck
11-30-2012, 01:53 AM
This season is good. And now that Abi isn't fat, she looks kinda hot.

Aries Walker
11-30-2012, 07:57 AM
She's still a horrible person.

Bump
11-30-2012, 12:20 PM
it seems like Abi is getting hotter. I want to bang that.

NJChiefsFan
12-04-2012, 02:11 AM
She's still a horrible person.

It is so funny how oblivious she is. When she cut off Carter talking about the reward I laughed so fucking hard. No she even gets pissed when people don't acknowledge how mean they were to her. This has been a fun season for me.

I wish Denise hadn't gone after Abby at tribal, she put a target on her back. Going to be tough for her to be Malcolm if they make it to the final 3. Scoupin could really help himself if he blindsided Malcolm this week.

DaKCMan AP
12-04-2012, 08:12 AM
This season is good. And now that Abi isn't fat, she looks kinda hot.

it seems like Abi is getting hotter. I want to bang that.

She's not pretty and, even while thinner, her body isn't great.

DaKCMan AP
12-05-2012, 07:31 PM
Is Lisa the most boring/annoying player that's made it this far? Her relationship with her younger bro is a little creepy.

Malcolm's bro has to be a huge stoner. ROFL

Aries Walker
12-05-2012, 08:58 PM
Dear God, no. Most seasons have at least one player, usually an older woman, who is just so bad a player - whether through desire to be nice, or naivete, or whatever - that she makes people like me want to chew through the TV screen. The worst that I remember offhand was named Lillian, and she made Lisa here look like Machiavelli.

I'm sure there were others which I am blocking out.

DaKCMan AP
12-06-2012, 07:19 AM
Dear God, no. Most seasons have at least one player, usually an older woman, who is just so bad a player - whether through desire to be nice, or naivete, or whatever - that she makes people like me want to chew through the TV screen. The worst that I remember offhand was named Lillian, and she made Lisa here look like Machiavelli.

I'm sure there were others which I am blocking out.

Lisa is a complete hypocrite. She says she votes one way in order to be loyal and not go back on her word (see Penner). Yet the next day she's talking about voting out Malcolm. Then she takes the all-time cop out if things don't go her way that it's "God's will" and either way it's a "win-win" situation. :Lin:

Chiefnj2
12-06-2012, 07:40 AM
Lisa is a complete hypocrite. She says she votes one way in order to be loyal and not go back on her word (see Penner). Yet the next day she's talking about voting out Malcolm. Then she takes the all-time cop out if things don't go her way that it's "God's will" and either way it's a "win-win" situation. :Lin:

Malcolm hit the nail on the head when he said he may of made a mistake letting Lisa's brother stay the night because he would have a calming effect on her and could get her to play intelligently.

If Malcolm was ever a real target because he is a strong player/popular, etc., why didn't the target move to Denise who seems to be in the exact same situation as Malcolm, plus she has/had the disadvantage of never having an idol?

Aries Walker
12-06-2012, 07:52 AM
Probably because Abi hates her so much. Assuming Abi will be on the jury by then, she'll vote for anyone but Denise to win the million dollars, and might even drag Artis and Pete to vote with her. Therefore, she's a much better choice to be sitting next to during the final council.

Malcolm, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have any enemies.

Chiefnj2
12-06-2012, 10:13 AM
Probably because Abi hates her so much. Assuming Abi will be on the jury by then, she'll vote for anyone but Denise to win the million dollars, and might even drag Artis and Pete to vote with her. Therefore, she's a much better choice to be sitting next to during the final council.

Malcolm, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have any enemies.

I'm was talking about Skupin and Lisa switching the vote to Denise. Why do they think they could beat her at jury, or even at challenges?

MagicHef
12-06-2012, 10:22 AM
I'm was talking about Skupin and Lisa switching the vote to Denise. Why do they think they could beat her at jury, or even at challenges?

I didn't understand that either.

I also am surprised at how confident they are that Abi could never win. She's the underdog now, she was in an alliance (that was betrayed by Lisa, etc.) with a number of the jury members, and the jury gets to see her roasted every tribal council, while they don't see her actions back at camp. I wouldn't be too surprised to see her get more votes than expected, if she makes it to FTC.

KChiefer
12-06-2012, 02:05 PM
Can you imagine how bad the jury questioning of Abi would go? That in itself would keep Abi from winning.

Order of most pobable to win:
Malcom
Skupin
Denise
Lisa
Abi

Chiefnj2
12-06-2012, 03:02 PM
The ONLY reason to keep Abi around last night over Carter is each and every one of the "FOUR" is having second thoughts about their alliance and want to bring Abi to the final 3 because everyone hates her.

And what the heck is the deal with moms wrapping their legs around their kids when getting hugged?

MagicHef
12-06-2012, 03:37 PM
Can you imagine how bad the jury questioning of Abi would go? That in itself would keep Abi from winning.

Order of most pobable to win:
Malcom
Skupin
Denise
Lisa
Abi

I remember a season where the loudmouth lady that was pretty rude to everyone was looked at as a very safe goat to bring to the finals. Wait, it was actually 2 seasons with the same loudmouth rude lady.

Aries Walker
12-06-2012, 06:23 PM
The ONLY reason to keep Abi around last night over Carter is each and every one of the "FOUR" is having second thoughts about their alliance and want to bring Abi to the final 3 because everyone hates her.
The other reason would be the quite reasonable fear that Carter would win every single remaining challenge.

NJChiefsFan
12-06-2012, 08:36 PM
The other reason would be the quite reasonable fear that Carter would win every single remaining challenge.

Indeed. That and him maybe getting the votes as the one nobody disliked or was jealous of.

Malcolm hit the nail on the head when he said he may of made a mistake letting Lisa's brother stay the night because he would have a calming effect on her and could get her to play intelligently.

If Malcolm was ever a real target because he is a strong player/popular, etc., why didn't the target move to Denise who seems to be in the exact same situation as Malcolm, plus she has/had the disadvantage of never having an idol?

I thought it would be the automatic play.

Lisa is a complete hypocrite. She says she votes one way in order to be loyal and not go back on her word (see Penner). Yet the next day she's talking about voting out Malcolm.

I don't know. She has been pretty open about not knowing what she is doing. Going back and forth would show that. She wanted to go with Penner and he told her he didn't want to make an alliance. I don't really see that as going against her word. Voting out Malcolm came after her brother told her to play the game inside the rules of the game, not the rules of society(in her eyes).

If Denise wants to win she needs to get Malcolm out or something. She will be fighting the "follower" card in the final 3 if she doesn't. I would think they will go after Denise if she doesn't win immunity this week.

I also agree even if Abby gets her 2 alliance votes she could never handle herself in front of the jury. She really hasn't gotten roasted aside from the one time. The rest has been her being dramatic.

MagicHef
12-07-2012, 09:47 AM
RC is the only person that Abi had any hand in putting in the jury. Everyone else was put there by the current power alliance. The jury doesn't forget that. The final vote isn't about who played the best or who deserves it the most, even as much as they like to pretend it is. It's about getting revenge on whoever kicked you out.

Sandra was the same "grumpy around camp/she'll never get votes" type player, and she won.

Twice.

Deberg_1990
12-07-2012, 09:50 AM
Did Lisa ever get "outed" yet as a former Star? I remember the older guy was the only guy who recognized who she was at first.

I say this because if the others knew, usually they are more inclined to vote someone like that out early.

NJChiefsFan
12-07-2012, 03:17 PM
RC is the only person that Abi had any hand in putting in the jury. Everyone else was put there by the current power alliance. The jury doesn't forget that. The final vote isn't about who played the best or who deserves it the most, even as much as they like to pretend it is. It's about getting revenge on whoever kicked you out.

Sandra was the same "grumpy around camp/she'll never get votes" type player, and she won.

Twice.

Abby's alliance had a say in some of them, I don't think they would look it only being Mike that did it to them. She was a bitch to a lot of them and her alliance ruled like obnoxious dick heads all the while voting some of the jury out. The jury doesn't always vote with spite, it really depends. Carter even seemed semi-understanding during his confessional after he got voted out. I can't see her ever having enough votes.

NJChiefsFan
12-07-2012, 03:18 PM
Did Lisa ever get "outed" yet as a former Star? I remember the older guy was the only guy who recognized who she was at first.

I say this because if the others knew, usually they are more inclined to vote someone like that out early.

I think only Skupin and Penner know. Maybe Jeff, I can't remember. I doubt either Skupin or Penner would. Penner did get mad at her for bailing on her alliance but he also did say that it was his fault for not choosing a side. In the end I would be surprised if he blew up her spot.

MagicHef
12-07-2012, 03:30 PM
Abby's alliance had a say in some of them, I don't think they would look it only being Mike that did it to them. She was a bitch to a lot of them and her alliance ruled like obnoxious dick heads all the while voting some of the jury out. The jury doesn't always vote with spite, it really depends. Carter even seemed semi-understanding during his confessional after he got voted out. I can't see her ever having enough votes.

RC was first, and she actually only went because Penner played his idol.

Jeff was next, and he went home because Penner didn't vote the way he said he would, which screwed up the numbers.

The next out was Artis, which was the blindside that ended any power Abi had.

2 people can blame Abi for their leaving, and those are stretches, to be honest. By comparison, every person on the jury can blame Skupin and Lisa for putting them there, and all but Jeff can blame Malcolm and Denise.

NJChiefsFan
12-07-2012, 08:31 PM
RC was first, and she actually only went because Penner played his idol.

Jeff was next, and he went home because Penner didn't vote the way he said he would, which screwed up the numbers.

The next out was Artis, which was the blindside that ended any power Abi had.

2 people can blame Abi for their leaving, and those are stretches, to be honest. By comparison, every person on the jury can blame Skupin and Lisa for putting them there, and all but Jeff can blame Malcolm and Denise.

True. I still can not see them voting for her. In the end I see Penner and Jeff voting for the deserving player(unless Jeff is looking at Skupin being that). Jury members don't always vote for people that didn't vote them out. Depends on the person and the feel of the season. I really don't see Abi beating anybody.

DaKCMan AP
12-09-2012, 07:54 AM
I don't know. She has been pretty open about not knowing what she is doing. Going back and forth would show that. She wanted to go with Penner and he told her he didn't want to make an alliance. I don't really see that as going against her word. Voting out Malcolm came after her brother told her to play the game inside the rules of the game, not the rules of society(in her eyes).


Here reason for NOT voting with Penner was that she wanted to keep her word to Malcolm & Denise. Then the very next week she wanted to vote out Malcolm. Brother or not, that's hypocritical. You're either the playing the game or you aren't.

NJChiefsFan
12-09-2012, 11:22 PM
Here reason for NOT voting with Penner was that she wanted to keep her word to Malcolm & Denise. Then the very next week she wanted to vote out Malcolm. Brother or not, that's hypocritical. You're either the playing the game or you aren't.

She has been all over the map, no doubt about it. I still think she has been honest enough to their faces that she would have a chance of surviving that in the jury questioning. I'm sure she would be grilled about it but I don't think it would cost her going up against Abi. However, she might lose to the other person because of it.

NJChiefsFan
12-14-2012, 02:22 AM
Thought Denise was going to go home. Abi taking the strategy to a new level with the name calling. If neither Denise or Malcolm win immunity its going to be a very interesting scramble. I have enjoyed this season. Certainly has had some unique people.

MagicHef
12-14-2012, 09:01 AM
I was amazed at one of Skupin's comments, about Carter getting voted off: "He really took it personal."

Poor grammar aside, his did he expect Carter to take it? He's been out there for 30-some days trying to make it to the end, of course he would take it personally when someone ends that chance for him.

I think that people really never think about the cost of blindsides in the game. When you get control of the game and vote out your "enemies," it's expected, and they often can end up respecting you and voting for you if you make the final 2/3. When you turn on your friends and vote them out before it's completely necessary, you are making enemies on the jury far worse. Everyone talks about "bitter juries" but it's human nature to seek revenge on someone who betrayed you.

NJChiefsFan
12-14-2012, 03:07 PM
Well they did tell Carter that the one thing going against him was he was a threat at challenges. My issue is that it seemed like Carter sat back and said "well I deserve to be here, you better not vote for me". It's survivor, he knows damn well the value of keeping Abi. He should have fought a little harder, tried something. I liked the guy despite his lack of apparent brain power, but nothing is deserved on that show. It is ironic that they then turned around and voted out Abi though. I would think if you were getting rid of Carter because he was a threat you would do so with Denise as well.

MagicHef
12-14-2012, 03:11 PM
Well they did tell Carter that the one thing going against him was he was a threat at challenges. My issue is that it seemed like Carter sat back and said "well I deserve to be here, you better not vote for me". It's survivor, he knows damn well the value of keeping Abi. He should have fought a little harder, tried something. I liked the guy despite his lack of apparent brain power, but nothing is deserved on that show. It is ironic that they then turned around and voted out Abi though. I would think if you were getting rid of Carter because he was a threat you would do so with Denise as well.

Yeah, voting Abi out the very next tribal council looks pretty bad.

NJChiefsFan
12-14-2012, 03:17 PM
Yeah, voting Abi out the very next tribal council looks pretty bad.

I thought the best part of the last episode was Skupin's face when Abi said "I guess he doesn't care about my vote".

MagicHef
12-14-2012, 03:21 PM
I thought the best part of the last episode was Skupin's face when Abi said "I guess he doesn't care about my vote".

LMAO

I get the impression that there's a lot of stuff going on in this game that has never occurred to Skupin.

Buck
12-14-2012, 03:21 PM
I hope that Denise or Malcolm win immunity and kick Lisa off. She's annoying. She hasn't done anything worthy of winning.

Malcolm and Denise have. They joined the merge with only them 2 left from their original tribe and have survived all the way here. Skupin was playing stupid near the beginning, but he's won challenges lately.

Chiefnj2
12-14-2012, 07:02 PM
Can you imagine how angry everyone on the jury is now that Abi is with them and they are forced to listen to her once again?

Fruit Ninja
12-14-2012, 10:18 PM
Can you imagine how angry everyone on the jury is now that Abi is with them and they are forced to listen to her once again?

go watch the ponderosa video's the only one that was butthurt was RC. The others are hanging out with Abi and seem to have no problem with her outside of RC.

NJChiefsFan
12-15-2012, 12:22 AM
I hope that Denise or Malcolm win immunity and kick Lisa off. She's annoying. She hasn't done anything worthy of winning.

Malcolm and Denise have. They joined the merge with only them 2 left from their original tribe and have survived all the way here. Skupin was playing stupid near the beginning, but he's won challenges lately.

Denise also was at every single tribal council if I remember correctly.

Buck
12-15-2012, 12:19 PM
Denise also was at every single tribal council if I remember correctly.

Yep...only 1 more than Malcolm though because that thing got sick and had to leave.

NJChiefsFan
12-16-2012, 01:47 AM
I am interested in seeing what Abi and JC say about Mike screwing with their idol when Jeff brings it up.

Passepartout
12-16-2012, 08:02 PM
Abi really was a you know what. Glad that she is finally gone! Glad for the final four!

Fairplay
12-16-2012, 08:08 PM
My money is on Denise to win this.

I always cry and start blubbering like a school girl who broke up with her first love when the final four tribe members walk past the torches of past tribe members who fell before them.

DaKCMan AP
12-16-2012, 09:53 PM
I always cry and start blubbering like a school girl who broke up with her first love when the final four tribe members walk past the torches of past tribe members who fell before them.

Most boring part of the show. I hate that they do that and always switch the channel until it's over.

DaKCMan AP
12-16-2012, 09:53 PM
I really hope Lisa doesn't win.

Fairplay
12-16-2012, 10:04 PM
Most boring part of the show. I hate that they do that and always switch the channel until it's over.



Heh, i think that is the lamest part of the show also.

Fairplay
12-16-2012, 10:05 PM
My money is on Denise to win this.




I called it. Fairplay the predictor.

DaKCMan AP
12-16-2012, 10:24 PM
Lisa blabbering in a bunch of nonsensical circles during the reunion show.

NJChiefsFan
12-17-2012, 04:48 AM
Lisa blabbering in a bunch of nonsensical circles during the reunion show.

Yeah she was. Been a while since my favorite won. I thought it was a cool season, then again I always do in some sense or the other. I enjoyed Penner's speech during tribal. A little surprised he ended up calling Lisa on the past, but I guess he knew it wasn't going to affect the votes, or maybe he didn't care or hoped it did.

Chiefnj2
12-17-2012, 06:59 AM
I thought the tribal questioning was one of the more bitter groups in memory. None of them seemed to accept the fact that they made mistakes and that is why they were out.

DaKCMan AP
12-17-2012, 08:16 AM
Not thrilled that next season will be another Fans vs. Favorites - but I'll watch anyway. :sulk:

NJChiefsFan
12-17-2012, 06:32 PM
Not thrilled that next season will be another Fans vs. Favorites - but I'll watch anyway. :sulk:

Yeah they never really get me too excited but in the end I always enjoy it.

Bump
12-18-2012, 02:09 PM
This was the first time I ever watched a season of survivor. It's really been on 25 seasons? jesus

MagicHef
12-18-2012, 02:56 PM
This was the first time I ever watched a season of survivor. It's really been on 25 seasons? jesus

This one wasn't exactly top-shelf in my opinion, make sure to watch some of the old seasons.

Fruit Ninja
12-18-2012, 06:20 PM
Russel's first season is a must, season 19. lol

Bump
12-19-2012, 12:53 PM
that facts of life chick is bat shit crazy.

NJChiefsFan
12-19-2012, 07:24 PM
This was the first time I ever watched a season of survivor. It's really been on 25 seasons? jesus

Two a year.