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J Diddy
09-21-2012, 05:38 PM
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Congrats to the best campaign---EVAH!!!

ChiTown
09-21-2012, 05:39 PM
Their campaign sucks dick. However, the truth is hardly what people in Obama's Welfare State want to hear, so.....

J Diddy
09-21-2012, 05:41 PM
Their campaign sucks dick. However, the truth is hardly what people in Obama's Welfare State want to hear, so.....

Are you saying Gram-Gram is a welfare queen?

:)

BucEyedPea
09-21-2012, 05:41 PM
Ryan is correct. Obummunist care does weaken Medicare. That's been analyzed by more independent sources not connected to either party. Just because they're ignorant doesn't mean anything.

Ignorance can be handled with education though.

J Diddy
09-21-2012, 05:47 PM
Ryan is correct. Obummunist care does weaken Medicare. That's been analyzed by more independent sources not connected to either party. Just because they're ignorant doesn't mean anything.

Ignorance can be handled with education though.

You would think so wouldn't you?

How does obamacare weaken medicare?

Baby Lee
09-21-2012, 05:51 PM
You would think so wouldn't you?

How does obamacare weaken medicare?

Sounds like you're asking why the clip ended when it did.

BucEyedPea
09-21-2012, 05:53 PM
You would think so wouldn't you?

How does obamacare weaken medicare?

Go read up on it with an independent source.

BucEyedPea
09-21-2012, 05:58 PM
From The Independent Institute

1) From Medicare to Mediscare

Recent discussions about Medicare and the Ryan nomination have kept healthcare economist John C. Goodman busy. In an op-ed for USA Today, the Independent Institute Research Fellow argued that differences between Paul Ryan’s Medicare plan and the Obama administration’s plan are smaller than many people believe. “Although Ryan favors an expansion of private Medicare plans, his budget implicitly endorses the same payment cuts that are incorporated in the health law,” Goodman and co-author Thomas R. Saving write. There are notable differences, however. “Ryan’s approach has the advantage of making the cuts less painful by allowing market-based reforms instead of suppressing provider fees.”

In a separate piece, Goodman challenges five claims about Medicare made by the Obama administration or its supporters. One is that health reform is good for seniors. According to Goodman, “Under ObamaCare, the average amount spent on [Medicare enrollees who turn 65 this year] over the remainder of their lives will fall by about $36,000 at today’s prices.” Goodman also cites a memorandum from the Medicare Office of the Actuary. It explains that cuts in Medicare spending mean that in a few years many hospitals will be forced to close, making it harder for seniors to obtain care.

Goodman also takes on the claim that health reform has made Medicare more solvent and that the new healthcare law is fully paid for. Lastly, he argues that the new law will not make Medicare more efficient—not unless one views a reduction of care for seniors as desirable. According to the Congressional Budget Office, the pilot programs and demonstration projects that were designed to make the healthcare system more cost effective either have not worked or have worked only very modestly. “In the absence of such efficiencies, the law basically mandates a reduction in provider fees,” Goodman concludes.

http://www.independent.org/publications/the_lighthouse/detail.asp?id=460

J Diddy
09-21-2012, 06:04 PM
It doesn't cut benefits and actually extends the life of medicare.

BucEyedPea
09-21-2012, 06:20 PM
"It" refers to what in your post?

J Diddy
09-21-2012, 06:23 PM
"It" refers to what in your post?

Obamacare

BucEyedPea
09-21-2012, 06:25 PM
Well then, you're drinking Obama's Kool-Aid.

J Diddy
09-21-2012, 06:27 PM
Well then, you're drinking Obama's Kool-Aid.

Nah, I'm going off of reports I've read. Don't be offended that I don't drink your guys koolaid just cause you said it was sweeter though.

BucEyedPea
09-21-2012, 06:40 PM
Nope you're wrong. You're an Obama-bot.

jjjayb
09-21-2012, 06:48 PM
AARP will make $1 billion dollars off of Obamacare. Any wonder they are booing?

http://waysandmeans.house.gov/uploadedfiles/aarp_report_final_pdf_3_29_11.pdf