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Sorter
09-27-2012, 05:43 PM
So far, I've broken down 7 games of Barkley in a row, including Syracuse, Hawaii and Stanford from this year. I can tell you right now that Smith and maybe Wilson (with a strong rest of the season) will be taken ahead of him if Barkley continues at his current rate.

Barkley's tape from last year looks much better last year as opposed to this year. USC is running a lot more WR screens which doesn't help him, but he looks significantly worse so far. He tends to lock on to receivers more this year than last, go to his checkdowns more, throws off his back foot more (product in part from not getting a quality drop and having to rush throws), and his accuracy down the field isn't as good as last year. His accuracy issues are in part to him mainly not driving off his back foot (which causes his passes downfield to sail a bit and his closer passes to be behind) and are also do to him not finishing his follow-through on his release (mainly due to pressure or his thought that it exists). His O-Line is not as good as last year and he is not adjusting as well as he should be. It isn't horrible (Bears) but it is having an outcome in his accuracy and quickness to check the ball down.

I'll have a complete breakdown by next week of every game from 2011 and through 2012, probably via Word Doc. if people are interested. I was mainly doing it for Billay since he asked but I figured you all would enjoy getting to analyze my own analysis and provide your thoughts. Plus, most of you are actually competent and will be able to provide feedback (positive/negative) that will help formulate a better opinion of Barkley for this upcoming draft.

Saccopoo
09-29-2012, 09:20 PM
Ya think?

Sorter
10-01-2012, 09:56 PM
Most teams still had Barkley at the top of their draft boards when I wrote this.

Granted, most teams probably have arrived at the same conclusion I did on Barkley, hopefully sooner.

Death2CasselFans
10-09-2012, 06:47 AM
i'm biased towards barkley as you can see from sig

Chiefnj2
10-09-2012, 10:32 AM
Most teams still had Barkley at the top of their draft boards when I wrote this.

Granted, most teams probably have arrived at the same conclusion I did on Barkley, hopefully sooner.

Teams don't have draft boards yet.

Sorter
10-09-2012, 01:02 PM
Teams don't have draft boards yet.



Most teams viewed Barkley as the consensus #1 pick in the 2013 NFL draft and had him rated as the best QB available.

Is that better?

BryanBusby
10-11-2012, 03:20 AM
Most teams viewed Barkley as the consensus #1 pick in the 2013 NFL draft and had him rated as the best QB available.

Is that better?

people that make mock drafts =! teams

Bewbies
10-14-2012, 08:39 PM
Scott Pioli has a 5 tech on top of his board. His highest rated QB is Landry Jones, in the 6th round.

theelusiveeightrop
10-15-2012, 10:47 AM
If Landry loses the porn stache, let's talk.

Woodchuck
10-16-2012, 08:02 AM
I think it's still to early to say. Smith is probably a little overrated right now and I agree that no team has a draft board yet. Smith was the "flavor of the month" in September in my opinion.

Chiefnj2
10-16-2012, 11:02 AM
Smith finally faced a decent defense and wasn't the same guy people thought he was against Baylor. He played well against Texas, but that's a team where some of the parts are better than the entire unit.

He has 3 more games against good D's - Kansas State (this week), Oklahoma and Iowa State, and one game against an okay D in TCU.

TT set up the gameplan to beat Smith - jam the receivers and run the risk that he beats you deep. So far, he isn't a good deep passer. He struggles when he has to put air under the ball.

The good thing about this season is that Smith has a half a season against good competition to cement being the #1 pick in the draft, or falling like every other QB this year.

Saccopoo
10-17-2012, 02:10 AM
Smith finally faced a decent defense and wasn't the same guy people thought he was against Baylor. He played well against Texas, but that's a team where some of the parts are better than the entire unit.

He has 3 more games against good D's - Kansas State (this week), Oklahoma and Iowa State, and one game against an okay D in TCU.

TT set up the gameplan to beat Smith - jam the receivers and run the risk that he beats you deep. So far, he isn't a good deep passer. He struggles when he has to put air under the ball.

The good thing about this season is that Smith has a half a season against good competition to cement being the #1 pick in the draft, or falling like every other QB this year.

Are you fucking high?

Geno Smith has been absolute gold putting air under the ball. He's been hitting receivers in stride deep all season. Guys in tight double coverage and he's hitting them in stride 40-50 yards downfield. What the fuck have you been not watching?

Have you even seen a single West Virginia game the past three seasons?

Nightfyre
10-17-2012, 11:58 PM
Smith finally faced a decent defense and wasn't the same guy people thought he was against Baylor. He played well against Texas, but that's a team where some of the parts are better than the entire unit.

He has 3 more games against good D's - Kansas State (this week), Oklahoma and Iowa State, and one game against an okay D in TCU.

TT set up the gameplan to beat Smith - jam the receivers and run the risk that he beats you deep. So far, he isn't a good deep passer. He struggles when he has to put air under the ball.

The good thing about this season is that Smith has a half a season against good competition to cement being the #1 pick in the draft, or falling like every other QB this year.
That's an awful lot of text for an uninformed opinion based on one game.

Chiefnj2
10-18-2012, 09:19 AM
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Chiefnj2
10-23-2012, 09:34 AM
That's an awful lot of text for an uninformed opinion based on one game.

Two games, and three more against decent D's. Time will tell.

Right now, he's still a good prospect, but:
1) When he has to get air under the ball he struggles.
2) When he has to move in the pocket, or outside, he panics a bit.

Nightfyre
10-23-2012, 03:29 PM
Two games, and three more against decent D's. Time will tell.

Right now, he's still a good prospect, but:
1) When he has to get air under the ball he struggles.
2) When he has to move in the pocket, or outside, he panics a bit.

What in the hell are you watching? This is absolutely inconsistent with my observations. He has a more accurate deep ball than RG3 and terrific poise in the pocket even under pressure. He RARELY stares at the rush, typically only when someone comes completely free. I have watched several hours of this kid and I can tell that you are completely off-base here.

aturnis
10-23-2012, 10:32 PM
What in the hell are you watching? This is absolutely inconsistent with my observations. He has a more accurate deep ball than RG3 and terrific poise in the pocket even under pressure. He RARELY stares at the rush, typically only when someone comes completely free. I have watched several hours of this kid and I can tell that you are completely off-base here.

Nevermind. I read his air under ball comments as touch passes, but then I read some earlier posts. He's dead wrong.

Chiefnj2
10-24-2012, 12:19 PM
What in the hell are you watching? This is absolutely inconsistent with my observations. He has a more accurate deep ball than RG3 and terrific poise in the pocket even under pressure. He RARELY stares at the rush, typically only when someone comes completely free. I have watched several hours of this kid and I can tell that you are completely off-base here.

You are a completely wrong. Better and more accurate deep ball than RGIII?

Poise in the pocket? Did you watch the last two games when he was under pressure?

Nightfyre
10-24-2012, 01:08 PM
You are a completely wrong. Better and more accurate deep ball than RGIII?

Poise in the pocket? Did you watch the last two games when he was under pressure?

I watched both games and I saw someone who was consistently looking downfield unless someone came completely free. I saw him taking hits to deliver throws. I have watched his LSU youtube video three times and seen the exact same stuff. You are wrong about this.

Chiefnj2
11-04-2012, 01:49 PM
I watched both games and I saw someone who was consistently looking downfield unless someone came completely free. I saw him taking hits to deliver throws. I have watched his LSU youtube video three times and seen the exact same stuff. You are wrong about this.

Changing your mind yet?

Saccopoo
11-04-2012, 09:22 PM
Changing your mind yet?

Not one bit.

Nightfyre
11-04-2012, 10:35 PM
Changing your mind yet?

Why would I? Do you even watch the games?

Chiefnj2
11-05-2012, 01:17 PM
Why would I? Do you even watch the games?

Yes. Which is why I said wait until the year is over and he actually plays some teams with decent defenses.

Woodchuck
11-05-2012, 03:35 PM
So far, I've broken down 7 games of Barkley in a row, including Syracuse, Hawaii and Stanford from this year. I can tell you right now that Smith and maybe Wilson (with a strong rest of the season) will be taken ahead of him if Barkley continues at his current rate.

Barkley's tape from last year looks much better last year as opposed to this year. USC is running a lot more WR screens which doesn't help him, but he looks significantly worse so far. He tends to lock on to receivers more this year than last, go to his checkdowns more, throws off his back foot more (product in part from not getting a quality drop and having to rush throws), and his accuracy down the field isn't as good as last year. His accuracy issues are in part to him mainly not driving off his back foot (which causes his passes downfield to sail a bit and his closer passes to be behind) and are also do to him not finishing his follow-through on his release (mainly due to pressure or his thought that it exists). His O-Line is not as good as last year and he is not adjusting as well as he should be. It isn't horrible (Bears) but it is having an outcome in his accuracy and quickness to check the ball down.

I'll have a complete breakdown by next week of every game from 2011 and through 2012, probably via Word Doc. if people are interested. I was mainly doing it for Billay since he asked but I figured you all would enjoy getting to analyze my own analysis and provide your thoughts. Plus, most of you are actually competent and will be able to provide feedback (positive/negative) that will help formulate a better opinion of Barkley for this upcoming draft.

:popcorn:

Sorter
11-05-2012, 10:23 PM
Why don't you watch those games and see if you come away with the same conclusion, dumbass.


LMAO, did you eat paint chips as a kid?