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suds79
10-01-2012, 09:30 AM
I’m defining a blowout as a game where we lose by more than 14 points. Anything more than 14 just isn’t being competitive at all.

Just over 3 Years during the Pioli era, 18 blowouts. Look at the # per year.

2012
09/09/12 - L - 40,24 (Falcons)
09/16/12 - L - 35,17 (@ Bills)
09/30/12 - L - 37,20 (Chargers)
10/14/12 - L - 38,10 (@ Tampa Bay)
11/01/12 - L - 31,13 (@ San Diego)

2011
09/11/11 - L - 41,7 (@ Bills)
09/18/11 - L - 48,3 (@ Lions)
11/06/11 - L - 31,3 (Phins)
11/21/11 - L - 34,3 (@ Pats)
12/11/11 - L - 37,10 (@ Jets)

2010
11/14/10 - L - 49,29 (@ Broncos)
12/12/10 - L - 31,0 (@ Chargers)
01/02/11 - L - 31,10 (Raiders)
01/09/11 - L - 30,7 (Ravens) Playoff game… Awesome. Thanks)

2009
09/27/09 - L - 34,14 (@ Eagles)
10/25/09 - L - 37,7 (Chargers)
11/29/09 - L - 43,14 (@ Chargers)
12/06/09 - L - 44,13 (Broncos)

Count Zarth
10-01-2012, 09:33 AM
Add the games where we were dominated, but the scores were close for some BS reason.

2009 @ Ravens
2009 vs Giants

One common denominator:

http://www.footballnewsnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/matt_cassel_sm.jpg

scho63
10-01-2012, 09:36 AM
Iím defining a blowout as a game where we lose by more than 14 points. Anything more than 14 just isnít being competitive at all.

Just over 3 Years during the Pioli era, 16 blowouts. Look at the # per year. Typically 4 or 5. Looks like weíre going to buck that tend given we have 3 already this year.

2012
09/09/12 - L - 40,24 (Falcons)
09/16/12 - L - 35,17 (@ Bills)
09/30/12 - L - 37,20 (Chargers)

2011
09/11/11 - L - 41,7 (@ Bills)
09/18/11 - L - 48,3 (@ Lions)
11/06/11 - L - 31,3 (Phins)
11/21/11 - L - 34,3 (@ Pats)
12/11/11 - L - 37,10 (@ Jets)

2010
11/14/10 - L - 49,29 (@ Broncos)
12/12/10 - L - 31,0 (@ Chargers)
01/02/11 - L - 31,10 (Raiders)
01/09/11 - L - 30,7 (Ravens) Playoff gameÖ Awesome. Thanks)

2009
09/27/09 - L - 34,14 (@ Eagles)
10/25/09 - L - 37,7 (Chargers)
11/29/09 - L - 43,14 (@ Chargers)
12/06/09 - L - 44,13 (Broncos)

And if you factor in our playing catch-up during garbage time, the number is much higher!

Deberg_1990
10-01-2012, 09:41 AM
This team has been truly awful 5 out of the past 6 seasons. From 2007 on....

They should consider themselves lucky they still have a fanbase.

14-29 at home since 2007

:facepalm:

BryanBusby
10-01-2012, 09:41 AM
But hey, we got dat FRANCHISE NOSE TACKLE at least

fffffffffffffffffff

kaplin42
10-01-2012, 09:49 AM
And if you factor in our playing catch-up during garbage time, the number is much higher!

Yes, I wonder if we could see games where the score was 14 points or more up until 4th quarter garbage time. It seems that our #1 ranked offense tends to pad it's stats and make it look like the point deficit isn't as bad as it was when the opposing team starts picking fans out of the seats to play defense for them while the real team hits the showers.

KCUnited
10-01-2012, 09:50 AM
41-6 in 1st quarters this year.

PRIEST
10-01-2012, 09:52 AM
Gowd that's a whole season of getting blown out. When I go to work I am held responsible

for my performance , this jackass has 63 million tied to his ankle . Sink fatboy , what the

hell am I saying this turd is a floater .

HemiEd
10-01-2012, 09:56 AM
And if you factor in our playing catch-up during garbage time, the number is much higher!

Yep, and that is where those inflated stats are coming from for Matt Cassel that the front office keeps leaning on.

siberian khatru
10-01-2012, 09:58 AM
I wonder how that stands in context to the rest of the league. Are we blown out more than most lower-tier teams?

notorious
10-01-2012, 09:59 AM
If you failed at your job that badly, would you still be working there?



Oh, wait, Pioli's job isn't about winning, it's about $$$$$$.

TEX
10-01-2012, 10:17 AM
I wonder how that stands in context to the rest of the league. Are we blown out more than most lower-tier teams?

Yes. Just look at this year for a reference.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-01-2012, 10:24 AM
Add the games where we were dominated, but the scores were close for some BS reason.

2009 @ Ravens
2009 vs Giants

One common denominator:

http://www.footballnewsnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/matt_cassel_sm.jpg

May he continue sucking valiantly.

Dartgod
10-01-2012, 10:28 AM
This team has been truly awful 5 out of the past 6 seasons. From 2007 on....

They should consider themselves lucky they still have a fanbase.

14-29 at home since 2007

:facepalm:

LOUDEST STADIUM IN THE NFL!!!

Death2CasselFans
10-01-2012, 10:33 AM
2012
09/09/12 - L - 40,24 (Falcons)
09/16/12 - L - 35,17 (@ Bills)
09/30/12 - L - 37,20 (Chargers)

2011
09/11/11 - L - 41,7 (@ Bills)
09/18/11 - L - 48,3 (@ Lions)
11/06/11 - L - 31,3 (Phins)
11/21/11 - L - 34,3 (@ Pats)
12/11/11 - L - 37,10 (@ Jets)

Notice a difference in 2011 and 2012?

We took our beatings like a man in 2011.

Dr. Facebook Fever
10-01-2012, 10:33 AM
LOUDEST STADIUM IN THE NFL!!!

I saw on one of blowfish's pics in his 10 things thread that they're still scrolling that across the scoreboard at Arrowhead. It made me chortle.

ChiTown
10-01-2012, 10:34 AM
This team has been truly awful 5 out of the past 6 seasons. From 2007 on....

They should consider themselves lucky they still have a fanbase.

14-29 at home since 2007

:facepalm:


Definitely the fans fault that they have sucked in what was one of the greatest home-field advantages in Professional Sports. Way to completely fuck that one up, KC Chiefs!:bravo:

Bearcat
10-01-2012, 10:38 AM
Browns
2012: 0
2011: 2
2010: 2
2009: 6

Rams
2012: 1
2011: 8
2010: 3
2009: 8
(that's only one more game per year on average, and they won 3 games combined in 2011 and 2009)


The 2008, 0-16 Detroit Lions: 7

L.A. Chieffan
10-01-2012, 10:40 AM
Add the games where we were dominated, but the scores were close for some BS reason.

2009 @ Ravens
2009 vs Giants

One common denominator:

http://www.footballnewsnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/matt_cassel_sm.jpg

Its not badminton.

KCrockaholic
10-01-2012, 10:43 AM
Add the games where we were dominated, but the scores were close for some BS reason.

2009 @ Ravens
2009 vs Giants

One common denominator:

http://www.footballnewsnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/matt_cassel_sm.jpg

Brodie Croyle started @ Ravens. That one isn't on Cassel.

htismaqe
10-01-2012, 10:46 AM
You were entirely TOO lenient by going with a 2 TD mark.

Look at how many games they've lost by at least THREE TDs (21 points).

It's still ELEVEN GAMES and that's not counting the losses by 20.

That's absolutely unbelievable.

ChiTown
10-01-2012, 10:48 AM
You were entirely TOO lenient by going with a 2 TD mark.

Look at how many games they've lost by at least THREE TDs (21 points).

It's still ELEVEN GAMES and that's not counting the losses by 20.

That's absolutely unbelievable.

~ half of those at Arrowhead.

HemiEd
10-01-2012, 10:52 AM
~ half of those at Arrowhead.

not many nail biters.

CoMoChief
10-01-2012, 11:16 AM
There's fail everywhere you look when it comes to this franchise.

Count Zarth
10-01-2012, 11:34 AM
Brodie Croyle started @ Ravens. That one isn't on Cassel.

He also started @Chuggers 2010.

The rest are Cassel.

Common denominator.

ChiefsCountry
10-01-2012, 11:38 AM
Look at the Patriots losses in 2008 with Cassel

38-13 to Miami
30-10 to San Diego
33-10 to Pittsburgh

The other two losses were field goals win by Jets and Colts.

alpha_omega
10-01-2012, 11:42 AM
Wow...i knew it was bad, but seeing those numbers makes it even worse.

Bearcat
10-01-2012, 11:48 AM
Look at the Patriots losses in 2008 with Cassel

38-13 to Miami
30-10 to San Diego
33-10 to Pittsburgh

The other two losses were field goals win by Jets and Colts.

And they've lost by more than 14 points just 3 times since (and one was to the Ravens in the wildcard round in 2009).

htismaqe
10-01-2012, 11:50 AM
Look at the Patriots losses in 2008 with Cassel

38-13 to Miami
30-10 to San Diego
33-10 to Pittsburgh

The other two losses were field goals win by Jets and Colts.

Wow. Now that's a find.

siberian khatru
10-01-2012, 11:58 AM
Look at the Patriots losses in 2008 with Cassel

38-13 to Miami
30-10 to San Diego
33-10 to Pittsburgh

The other two losses were field goals win by Jets and Colts.

:hmmm:

Deberg_1990
10-01-2012, 11:58 AM
Look at the Patriots losses in 2008 with Cassel

38-13 to Miami
30-10 to San Diego
33-10 to Pittsburgh

The other two losses were field goals win by Jets and Colts.

Without even looking, IM guessing his stats in those games are remarkably similar to most of his Chiefs stats.....

bowener
10-01-2012, 11:59 AM
And if you factor in our playing catch-up during garbage time, the number is much higher!

I would be curious to see a list of games that were lost where the Chiefs were trailing by 14 or more at halftime or midway through the 3rd quarter.

ChiefsCountry
10-01-2012, 12:04 PM
Without even looking, IM guessing his stats in those games are remarkably similar to most of his Chiefs stats.....

Miami - 19/31 131 yards 1 td 1 int
San Diego - 22/38 203 yards 0 td 1 int
Pittsburgh - 19/39 169 yards 0 td 2 int

ChiTown
10-01-2012, 12:05 PM
Without even looking, IM guessing his stats in those games are remarkably similar to most of his Chiefs stats.....

13-38 Miami Loss:
19-31 for 131 YDS. 1 TD 1 INT 68.1 QB Rating

10-30 SD Loss:
22-38 for 203 YDS. 0 TD 1 INT 61.6 QB Rating

10-33 PITT Loss:
19-39 for 169 YDS. 0 TD 2 INT's 39.4 QB Rating

JASONSAUTO
10-01-2012, 12:30 PM
lol and someone told me the other day that haley didnt have the highest % of blowout losses for a chiefs head coach...

Papi
10-01-2012, 12:48 PM
Good stats here. So sickening that we haven't even been competitive this year. Pathetic.

Richard_Cuckold
10-01-2012, 01:09 PM
Just awful. Pisses me off

Deberg_1990
10-01-2012, 01:10 PM
Miami - 19/31 131 yards 1 td 1 int
San Diego - 22/38 203 yards 0 td 1 int
Pittsburgh - 19/39 169 yards 0 td 2 int

13-38 Miami Loss:
19-31 for 131 YDS. 1 TD 1 INT 68.1 QB Rating

10-30 SD Loss:
22-38 for 203 YDS. 0 TD 1 INT 61.6 QB Rating

10-33 PITT Loss:
19-39 for 169 YDS. 0 TD 2 INT's 39.4 QB Rating


Wow, im a genius. thanks. : )

acesn8s
10-01-2012, 02:04 PM
Add the games where we were dominated, but the scores were close for some BS reason.

2009 @ Ravens
2009 vs Giants

One common denominator:

http://www.footballnewsnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/matt_cassel_sm.jpgI would say the common denominator is Pioli not Cassel.


2012
09/09/12 - L - 40,24 (Falcons) Cassel
09/16/12 - L - 35,17 (@ Bills) Cassel
09/30/12 - L - 37,20 (Chargers) Cassel

2011
09/11/11 - L - 41,7 (@ Bills) Cassel
09/18/11 - L - 48,3 (@ Lions) Cassel
11/06/11 - L - 31,3 (Phins) Cassel
11/21/11 - L - 34,3 (@ Pats) Palko
12/11/11 - L - 37,10 (@ Jets) Palko

2010
11/14/10 - L - 49,29 (@ Broncos) Cassel
12/12/10 - L - 31,0 (@ Chargers) Croyle
01/02/11 - L - 31,10 (Raiders) Cassel
01/09/11 - L - 30,7 (Ravens) Cassel

2009
09/13/09 - L - 38,24 (@ Ravens) Croyle
09/27/09 - L - 34,14 (@ Eagles) Cassel
10/04/09 - L - 27,16 (Giants) Cassel
10/25/09 - L - 37,7 (Chargers) Cassel
11/29/09 - L - 43,14 (@ Chargers) Cassel
12/06/09 - L - 44,13 (Broncos) Cassel

78% Cassel
11% Croyle
11% Palko

pimpchief
10-01-2012, 02:11 PM
I would say the common denominator is Pioli not Cassel.


2012
09/09/12 - L - 40,24 (Falcons) Cassel
09/16/12 - L - 35,17 (@ Bills) Cassel
09/30/12 - L - 37,20 (Chargers) Cassel

2011
09/11/11 - L - 41,7 (@ Bills) Cassel
09/18/11 - L - 48,3 (@ Lions) Cassel
11/06/11 - L - 31,3 (Phins) Cassel
11/21/11 - L - 34,3 (@ Pats) Palko
12/11/11 - L - 37,10 (@ Jets) Palko

2010
11/14/10 - L - 49,29 (@ Broncos) Cassel
12/12/10 - L - 31,0 (@ Chargers) Croyle
01/02/11 - L - 31,10 (Raiders) Cassel
01/09/11 - L - 30,7 (Ravens) Cassel

2009
09/13/09 - L - 38,24 (@ Ravens) Croyle
09/27/09 - L - 34,14 (@ Eagles) Cassel
10/04/09 - L - 27,16 (Giants) Cassel
10/25/09 - L - 37,7 (Chargers) Cassel
11/29/09 - L - 43,14 (@ Chargers) Cassel
12/06/09 - L - 44,13 (Broncos) Cassel

78% Cassel
11% Croyle
11% Palko

Go back further than that then with blowouts, I wonder if we go back six years, what cassels percentage still is. Did thig and huard get blown out alot?

Chiefspants
10-01-2012, 02:25 PM
Go back further than that then with blowouts, I wonder if we go back six years, what cassels percentage still is. Did thig and huard get blown out alot?

Thig was actually quite the baller, we lost a ton of games, but by some miracle they all came down to the wire (with a couple of exceptions, of course.)

acesn8s
10-01-2012, 02:38 PM
Go back further than that then with blowouts, I wonder if we go back six years, what cassels percentage still is. Did thig and huard get blown out alot?
2004 No blowout losses

2005
09/26 (Denver) Green

2006
10/15 (Steelers) Huard

2007
09/03 (Houston) Huard
11/11 (Denver) Croyle
12/02 (San Diego) Huard
12/09 (Denver) Croyle

2008
09/14 (Oakland) Thigpen
09/21 (Atlanta) Thigpen
10/05 (Carolina) Huard
10/19 (Tennessee) Huard
11/23 (Buffalo) Thigpen

Count Zarth
10-01-2012, 02:38 PM
78 percent Cassel.

Most common denominator for sure.

Croyle and Palko are shittier versions of Cassel and therefore get us buttfucked to a greater degree.

jspchief
10-01-2012, 02:42 PM
I know that Cassel's complete ineptitude plays a huge role in these games turning into blowouts, but the defense hasn't done much to help.

Week 1: Falcons TD on opening drive
Week 2: Bills TD on 2nd drive
Week 3: Saints TD on opening drive
Week 4: Chargers TD on opening drive

This defense was supposed to be a strength. So far this season they have stunk up the joint, and the stinking has started well before the offense's failure can be used as an excuse.

Cassel is a huge problem, but this team has more problems than just QB.

Chiefspants
10-01-2012, 02:46 PM
I know that Cassel's complete ineptitude plays a huge role in these games turning into blowouts, but the defense hasn't done much to help.

Week 1: Falcons TD on opening drive
Week 2: Bills TD on 2nd drive
Week 3: Saints TD on opening drive
Week 4: Chargers TD on opening drive

This defense was supposed to be a strength. So far this season they have stunk up the joint, and the stinking has started well before the offense's failure can be used as an excuse.

Cassel is a huge problem, but this team has more problems than just QB.

I would say the defensive problems are rooted in Crennel's lack of organization, preparedness, and competence as a head coach/gameplanner.

Cassel, however, would be getting happy feet against KU's defense with the way he's been playing.

htismaqe
10-01-2012, 02:47 PM
I know that Cassel's complete ineptitude plays a huge role in these games turning into blowouts, but the defense hasn't done much to help.

Week 1: Falcons TD on opening drive
Week 2: Bills TD on 2nd drive
Week 3: Saints TD on opening drive
Week 4: Chargers TD on opening drive

This defense was supposed to be a strength. So far this season they have stunk up the joint, and the stinking has started well before the offense's failure can be used as an excuse.

Cassel is a huge problem, but this team has more problems than just QB.

The defense's biggest problem is that their coach is a softie and runs an outdated, passive scheme.

The REASON he's the coach, however, is because he was willing to accept Pioli's favorite child at QB.

So in the end, Cassel is STILL the problem.

jspchief
10-01-2012, 02:50 PM
I would say the defensive problems are rooted in Crennel's lack of organization, preparedness, and competence as a head coach/gameplanner.

Cassel, however, would be getting happy feet against KU's defense with the way he's been playing.Ultimately the result would likely be the same. Last year we saw the defense play well in the first half of games only to eventually succumb to blowouts because our O simply could not sustain drives. Over the span of Cassel's career, he is indeed very responsible for this trend.

I just want people to recognize that this year, the team's problems extend beyond QB. We might be a better team with a different QB, but the defense so far this year has been very bad. We all believe the individual talent is there. Romeo Crennel is tripping over his own dick at the one thing he's supposedly good at.

acesn8s
10-01-2012, 04:18 PM
I would say the common denominator is Pioli not Cassel.


2012
09/09/12 - L - 40,24 (Falcons) Cassel
09/16/12 - L - 35,17 (@ Bills) Cassel
09/30/12 - L - 37,20 (Chargers) Cassel

2011
09/11/11 - L - 41,7 (@ Bills) Cassel
09/18/11 - L - 48,3 (@ Lions) Cassel
11/06/11 - L - 31,3 (Phins) Cassel
11/21/11 - L - 34,3 (@ Pats) Palko
12/11/11 - L - 37,10 (@ Jets) Palko

2010
11/14/10 - L - 49,29 (@ Broncos) Cassel
12/12/10 - L - 31,0 (@ Chargers) Croyle
01/02/11 - L - 31,10 (Raiders) Cassel
01/09/11 - L - 30,7 (Ravens) Cassel

2009
09/13/09 - L - 38,24 (@ Ravens) Croyle
09/27/09 - L - 34,14 (@ Eagles) Cassel
10/04/09 - L - 27,16 (Giants) Cassel
10/25/09 - L - 37,7 (Chargers) Cassel
11/29/09 - L - 43,14 (@ Chargers) Cassel
12/06/09 - L - 44,13 (Broncos) Cassel

78% Cassel
11% Croyle
11% PalkoWith the exception of one game the opposition scored at least 30 points. Something the Chiefs haven't done since 12/26/2010.

Rausch
10-01-2012, 04:23 PM
When this team wins it seems to barely win.

When this team loses it seems to get prison raped...

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-01-2012, 04:48 PM
Thanks PeeWee

Mr. Flopnuts
10-01-2012, 05:33 PM
An entire fucking season of games in which we gave up 30+ points and scored double digits in less than 6. Holy fucking wow! 1/3 of the time we get our fucking shit pushed in. CLEAN THE FUCKING HOUSE, CLARK! YOU'RE LIVING LIKE A BUM!

suds79
11-01-2012, 09:57 PM
And the hits just keep on coming.

Tied our record of 5 blowouts from last year. :clap:

Don't settle fore tying that record boys. Go get it.

Count Zarth
11-01-2012, 10:21 PM
19 blowouts in 57 games.

MORE LOSSES BY 14+ POINTS THAN ANY 4-YEAR STRETCH IN TEAM HISTORY.

KCrockaholic
11-01-2012, 10:26 PM
19 blowouts in 57 games.

MORE LOSSES BY 14+ POINTS THAN ANY 4-YEAR STRETCH IN TEAM HISTORY.

I have to wonder what other team besides KC has been blown out this many times over a 4 year span. We have to be in the top 5 I'd assume.

Count Zarth
11-01-2012, 10:26 PM
I'd have to mine the Bucs or Saints reference pages, I'm sure.

petegz28
11-01-2012, 10:36 PM
41-6 in 1st quarters this year.

That's up to 64-6 now

KCrockaholic
11-01-2012, 10:36 PM
I'd have to mine the Bucs or Saints reference pages, I'm sure.

Rather than that, go to the pro football reference page and sort the team stats by "MoV" Margin of victory... Prior to this game we're ranked -12.7.

The 76 Bucs were at -20

We're on pace to be the worst Chiefs team of all time.

New World Order
11-01-2012, 10:41 PM
78 percent Cassel.

Most common denominator for sure.

Croyle and Palko are shittier versions of Cassel and therefore get us butt****ed to a greater degree.



During Pioli's tenure he has acquired Palko, Cassel, Quinn, and Stanzi. What a big pile of steaming dog shit that is.

Rams Fan
11-01-2012, 10:44 PM
I'd have to mine the Bucs or Saints reference pages, I'm sure.

Rams had 27 14+ point losses in a 57 game stretch from 2007-2010.

Reerun_KC
11-01-2012, 10:45 PM
And people think crennel is a good DC? Jfc people.

Guru
11-02-2012, 12:38 AM
Where is the post game press conference with Romeo saying he doesn't understand how we could suck this bad?

Fruit Ninja
11-02-2012, 12:45 AM
i cant find a press conference. KCchiefs.com cut it down to under a minute. Fuckers.

Count Zarth
11-02-2012, 12:51 AM
OP is missing the 2009 season opener, BTW.

We lost by 14, and were dominated in total yards.

Make no mistake, that was a blowout of sorts. Only thing that kept it close was a blocked punt and an INT return. Team was dominated.

keg in kc
11-02-2012, 01:06 AM
The team has (arguably) been soft going back as far as 1999 (when I moved here, I didn't watch them closely before that). It's amazing how many old school coaches, and how many defensive coaches, have come through here, but none of them have been able to turn this franchise into a knock-you-on-your-ass kind of team. They just get physically dominated. It happened under Goonther, it happened under Vermeil when they ran a finesse offense but struggled in late game short-yardage (and just got obliterated on defense...), it happened under Herm and Haley, and now they're even softer now under Crennell. It just boggles the mind. Sometimes, going back at least that far, it just seems like there's no pride, no heart, no desire, just guys out there getting paid to play a game. Which makes it really difficult as a fan. And it's worse now than it's ever been, even after overhauling so much of the roster since 2008.

Count Zarth
11-02-2012, 01:22 AM
The two things I learned from Browns fans were:

A) Inmates ran the asylum.

B) Soft ass football team.

Haley actually put some toughness in this team, IMO. Firing him was the right move, but made us worse because Crennel is awful.

Count Zarth
11-02-2012, 01:24 AM
:facepalm:

Sorry about that- seeing Romeo's latest presser reminded me why the Browns dumped him.

The majority of Browns fans knew Quinn was a total bust when we dumped him. He's gone on to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt our estimation of his talent level was correct. I haven't seen enough of Cassell to comment on his (lack of) talent- but if he got benched in favor of Quinn, he has to suck beyond belief.

Fear not- your consolation prize is going to be the pick of the litter qbs in the 2013 draft.


How's the QB "controversy" working out for you guys? Crennel going to Quinn was hardly surprising given all the negativity surrounding Matt Cassell but I don't think either QB is the answer. (Just as neither Quinn nor Derek Anderson were the answer when Crennel couldn't decide between them when he coached the Browns.)

Guru
11-02-2012, 01:24 AM
The two things I learned from Browns fans were:

A) Inmates ran the asylum.

B) Soft ass football team.

Haley actually put some toughness in this team, IMO. Firing him was the right move, but made us worse because Crennel is awful.

Crennel is so bad I miss Haley. I never even wanted Haley here.

htismaqe
11-02-2012, 06:42 AM
The two things I learned from Browns fans were:

A) Inmates ran the asylum.

B) Soft ass football team.

Haley actually put some toughness in this team, IMO. Firing him was the right move, but made us worse because Crennel is awful.

I remember posting the comments from a former Patriot who attended training camp with the Browns.

And I remember getting ATTACKED with stuff like "he was only there for a couple days, how would he know?"

Obviously he DID know because this team is EVERY BIT as soft as those fucking Browns teams.

Deberg_1990
11-02-2012, 06:44 AM
Crennel is so bad I miss Haley. I never even wanted Haley here.

Crennel makes me long for Herm and Frank Ganz

Pasta Giant Meatball
11-02-2012, 11:40 AM
Absolutely pathetic.

Sweet Daddy Hate
11-02-2012, 11:44 AM
Crennel makes me long for Herm and Frank Ganz

LMAO

Pasta Giant Meatball
11-02-2012, 11:45 AM
Hermy had the team better prepared than this shit.

King_Chief_Fan
11-02-2012, 11:48 AM
The two things I learned from Browns fans were:

A) Inmates ran the asylum.

B) Soft ass football team.

Haley actually put some toughness in this team, IMO. Firing him was the right move, but made us worse because Crennel is awful.

I disagree about firing Haley as the right move. I agreed at the time, but now that we know the rest of the story, I would have kept him. Isn't 20/20 hindsight a wonderful thing?

Discuss Thrower
11-02-2012, 11:49 AM
I disagree about firing Haley as the right move. I agreed at the time, but now that we know the rest of the story, I would have kept him. Isn't 50/50 hindsight a wonderful thing?

FYP

BigMeatballDave
11-02-2012, 12:00 PM
A 14 pt deficit is not a blow out.

I'd say 17 is close. Certainly 20.

Just about all of these qualify.

Well done, Scott.

FAX
11-02-2012, 12:11 PM
A 14 pt deficit is not a blow out.

I'd say 17 is close. Certainly 20.

Just about all of these qualify.

Well done, Scott.

I don't disagree, but we've squat-walked our way through ball games that were absolute blowouts in the sense that we were dominated throughout. But when we score in GT against 3rd stringers, it makes the score look better.

You can be totally dominated and lose by 10 ... we're actually pretty good at that.

FAX

Reerun_KC
11-02-2012, 12:12 PM
Crennel is so bad I miss Haley. I never even wanted Haley here.

Crennel has been a God awful DC here in KC...

The league has passed him by...

Reerun_KC
11-02-2012, 12:13 PM
Watching Crennel coach a defense makes me miss GROB...

King_Chief_Fan
11-02-2012, 12:14 PM
FYP

i see what you did thereLMAO

suds79
11-02-2012, 12:27 PM
A 14 pt deficit is not a blow out.

I'd say 17 is close. Certainly 20.

Just about all of these qualify.

Well done, Scott.

I agree. But I actually said by more than 14. So really 15 or more.

The way I see it, if you score two standard TDs and still lose? That's a blowout.

Now last time I updated this list, I think I was looking for just 14. Will recheck now and update.

Flachief58
11-02-2012, 12:29 PM
There is so much fail with this team, Clark needs to blow this shit up now to let prospective GMs & HCs know that the jobs are available & he is serious about fixing this mess

Count Zarth
11-02-2012, 12:31 PM
A 14 pt deficit is not a blow out.

I'd say 17 is close. Certainly 20.

Just about all of these qualify.

Well done, Scott.

It depends on the game.

14 points is not competitive in a lot of games.

So just STFU.

whoman69
11-02-2012, 12:38 PM
Watching Crennel coach a defense makes me miss GROB...

Let's not get crazy here.

htismaqe
11-02-2012, 12:41 PM
It depends on the game.

14 points is not competitive in a lot of games.

So just STFU.

Time to bust out the stat on 18+ point losses, dude. ;)

BigMeatballDave
11-02-2012, 01:12 PM
Watching Crennel coach a defense makes me miss GROB...

Hyperbole, much?

Now, Crennel needs to be fired. No doubt.

However, the reason for these blow outs is due to turnovers.

This D isn't good, but it's no where near the level of suck as his D.

Pasta Giant Meatball
11-02-2012, 05:29 PM
Hyperbole, much?

Now, Crennel needs to be fired. No doubt.

However, the reason for these blow outs is due to turnovers.

This D isn't good, but it's no where near the level of suck as his D.

Nearly 2 TD's worth of points a game allowed off of turnovers this season :eek: