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jspchief
10-01-2012, 03:32 PM
Matt Cassel reportedly losing support among Chiefs (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000068379/article/matt-cassel-reportedly-losing-support-among-chiefs?module=HP11_headline_stack)
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With four subpar games under his belt, Kansas City Chiefs (http://www.nfl.com/teams/kansascitychiefs/profile?team=KC) quarterback Matt Cassel (http://www.nfl.com/player/mattcassel/2506562/profile) is catching heat for the team's ugly 1-3 start.


Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports reported (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--week-4-winners-losers--chiefs--matt-cassel-may-be-losing-grip-on-starting-job.html) the fourth-year starter is "losing confidence from players and many others in the organization." If Kansas City had someone more intriguing than Brady Quinn (http://www.nfl.com/player/bradyquinn/2495714/profile) at the No. 2 spot, Cassel would be destined for the bench, according to Cole.


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</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> "Look, there's a big reason why they went after Peyton Manning (http://www.nfl.com/player/peytonmanning/2501863/profile) as hard as they did this offseason," Cole was told by a source with knowledge of team president Scott Pioli's thinking. "What you're seeing from Cassel is pretty much what was expected. He's a really nice backup, not a starter."


Cassel has struggled with just five touchdowns against seven interceptions. His 70.4 quarterback rating exceeds only that of Mark Sanchez (http://www.nfl.com/player/marksanchez/79858/profile), Ryan Tannehill (http://www.nfl.com/player/ryantannehill/2532956/profile), Brandon Weeden (http://www.nfl.com/player/brandonweeden/2532970/profile) and Jay Cutler (http://www.nfl.com/player/jaycutler/2495824/profile).


Chants for Quinn and third-string sensation Ricky Stanzi (http://www.nfl.com/player/rickystanzi/2495233/profile) bubbled up at Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday during the Chiefs (http://www.nfl.com/teams/kansascitychiefs/profile?team=KC)' 37-20 loss (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012093002/2012/REG4/chargers@chiefs) to the San Diego Chargers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/sandiegochargers/profile?team=SD), but a switch at quarterback would require Pioli to admit defeat after years of insisting Cassel, his personal pick under center, had the goods. Cassel's 19-24 record has frustrated fans, as have his struggles against some of the league's weaker defenses this season. Cassel littered the field with three interceptions in Sunday's loss, but Romeo isn't budging.


"I could have taken (running back Jamaal) Charles out because of his struggles and his problems, but he's also the one who can run for a touchdown," Crennel said. "(Those are) some of the decisions a head coach has to make and you have to go with your gut feeling, and what you know about your team and then move forward with it."


What Crennel also knows about his team is that inserting Quinn into the starting role won't solve a larger problem in Kansas City. With young talent on both sides of the ball, the Chiefs (http://www.nfl.com/teams/kansascitychiefs/profile?team=KC) were an enticing pick in the AFC West before the season. Finding out you don't have a quarterback, however, tugs the entire operation back to square one.

Dicky McElephant
10-01-2012, 03:32 PM
RAC compares Charles to Cassel.

GTFO.

Von Dumbass
10-01-2012, 03:34 PM
My bad that was spchief not jspchief

Chiefspants
10-01-2012, 03:34 PM
You gave me an infraction for posting this same article last night.

How did you not know it was Q? LMAO

To be fair, he probably wouldn't have posted it had you not added your own spin/cut of the article.

Yus, beat your edit.

lcarus
10-01-2012, 03:35 PM
I lost faith in Matt Cassel after the playoff ass-raping against Baltimore. I wasn't very high on him before that either. Last season...I was SURE would be his last. Now I'm just done. Fuck this team until he's gone.

kcpasco
10-01-2012, 03:36 PM
RAC is a pussy
I have lost all respect

HemiEd
10-01-2012, 03:37 PM
I expected to see something about team mates losing faith in Cassel by the thread title. I am sure they have, but it is not in this article.

I remain convinced that Bowe is sick of him, but I am not aware of any words reflecting it.

lcarus
10-01-2012, 03:39 PM
I expected to see something about team mates losing faith in Cassel by the thread title. I am sure they have, but it is not in this article.

I saw the defense on the bench in the 4th quarter, yucking it up sort of. I thought they must be chatting about Cassel...but who knows.

scho63
10-01-2012, 03:42 PM
RAC is a pussy
I have lost all respect

Not that I want him to stick with Cassel but at this moment he has to at least PRETEND to be behind Cassel or all team confidence will be lost.

Head coaches can't be wishy-washy, even when they are wrong....I think Romeo wants to put Quinn in as well but God forbid it turns into Tyler Palko the Sequel-that would be a mitigated disaster!

ptlyon
10-01-2012, 03:42 PM
I saw the defense on the bench in the 4th quarter, yucking it up sort of. I thought they must be chatting about Cassel...but who knows.

Like they give a fuck... They get paid if they lose 100-0 or win 100-0

BryanBusby
10-01-2012, 03:43 PM
RAC is a pussy
I have lost all respect
Look at this guy, believing that this isn't Pioli trying to throw Crennel under the bus.

Sofa King
10-01-2012, 03:44 PM
Of course he's losing the locker room. The guy is a piece of shit. It would truly suck to be one of his wide receivers.

htismaqe
10-01-2012, 03:46 PM
ROFL

Pioli throwing old Romeo under the bus. His shame knows no bounds.

jspchief
10-01-2012, 03:46 PM
My bad that was spchief not jspchiefMaybe I missed it, but this doesn't appear to be the same article you posted.

Von Dumbass
10-01-2012, 03:49 PM
Maybe I missed it, but this doesn't appear to be the same article you posted.

The NFL.com article has quotes from the Yahoo Sports column I posted last night. .

Iowanian
10-01-2012, 03:49 PM
Romeo should have taken Cassel out because he sucks.


Romeo should have taken Charles out in the 4th quarter because it was completely out of reach to win, unnecessary to put the extra pointless hits on his body and would have been a good place to get some field experience for Gray.


The WR's should be losing confidence, because Cassel is going to get them all hurt.

No way Bowe signs back here next year.

Bane
10-01-2012, 03:50 PM
Best ever after 4 games /Pisoli

BigMeatballDave
10-01-2012, 03:51 PM
Um, JC scored 2 TDs, Romeo.

How much longer before the rest of the team quits on RAC?

bevischief
10-01-2012, 03:52 PM
The last 4 years he is 29-29 as a starter for the Keystone Chiefs.

Count Alex's Losses
10-01-2012, 03:53 PM
Kind of bare bones there. Wish it had a tiny bit of detail other than YO SOME PLAYERS DON'T SUPPORT CASSEL.

Bane
10-01-2012, 03:54 PM
Does this mean we not gonna be so DOMINATE?

HemiEd
10-01-2012, 03:54 PM
I saw the defense on the bench in the 4th quarter, yucking it up sort of. I thought they must be chatting about Cassel...but who knows.

Yucking it up, really? That speaks volumes right there, volumes.

jspchief
10-01-2012, 03:56 PM
Kind of bare bones there. Wish it had a tiny bit of detail other than YO SOME PLAYERS DON'T SUPPORT CASSEL.Agree, but at least the seed is planted. And on NFL.com, not just in local media. This story will grow like Jack's beanstalk.

Reerun_KC
10-01-2012, 03:58 PM
RAC is a pussy
I have lost all respect

He lost respect after he let Baltimore rape our souls in the playoffs. He can take his 7-11 defense and get the fuck out.

Count Alex's Losses
10-01-2012, 04:00 PM
The last 4 years he is 29-29 as a starter for the Keystone Chiefs.

What? No.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=261629

Matt Cassel is 19-25 in his 44 career starts with the Chiefs.

TEX
10-01-2012, 04:01 PM
The ironic thing is in "protecting" Cassel, Pioli has done more harm than good. He will NEVER be able to lead the team again once he's replaced.

BoneKrusher
10-01-2012, 04:02 PM
RAC is a pussy
I have lost all respect

he's Pioli's Big Puppet.

Rausch
10-01-2012, 04:08 PM
This organization doesn't seem to get it.

I'M NOT PAYING A DIME TO WATCH CASSEL QB THIS TEAM.

I don't care that we lose by 35 instead of 21 if he's benched. If he's the best we've got, and you idiots locked us into this situation because of that, that's YOUR fucking fault.

We are tired of seeing the same suck every fucking week. I will not pay to watch you waste our time repeating the same mistake every game. Perhaps Quinn isn't the best QB on this team. Fine.

Perhaps he turns into the best QB by the end of the season. Perhaps he leads the league in INT's. We don't know.

What we do know is exactly what we'll get after 4 years with Ca$$hole...

Hoover
10-01-2012, 04:10 PM
All this Manning talk is just Pioli covering his ass.

Rausch
10-01-2012, 04:12 PM
All this Manning talk is just Pioli covering his ass.

Well, it's stupid, because he failed at that too...

BoneKrusher
10-01-2012, 04:14 PM
All this Manning talk is just Pioli covering his ass.

yep, and why didnt Piloi convince Orton to stay in KC?
(because Orton was not gonna stoop as low as being a Backup to Cassel.);)

stonedstooge
10-01-2012, 04:15 PM
Pisoli trying to save his own ass. What a fucking loser this dude is. Poor old Romeo isn't smart enough to know he's being set up for the fall. Me thinks Pisoli would throw his own mother under the bus if it provided a small benefit to him

FAX
10-01-2012, 04:15 PM
I'm just weary of this FO treating the fans as though they are complete fools. Now, I won't argue the fact that some Chiefs fans are utterly devoid of anything resembling a thought process. Nonetheless, not all are and the FO's continued contempt for our intelligence and abuse of our loyalty is shameful.

FAX

Count Alex's Losses
10-01-2012, 04:16 PM
One guy that actually stood up for Cassel was Eric Winston.

That guy is a leader.

jspchief
10-01-2012, 04:20 PM
One guy that actually stood up for Cassel was Eric Winston.

That guy is a leader.Fuck Winston. He's had one good game in KC so far. I'll give a shit what he has to say as soon as he stops letting Kroy Biermann push his shit in.

Iowanian
10-01-2012, 04:21 PM
One guy that actually stood up for Cassel was Eric Winston.

That guy is a leader.

That's interesting because during the game his blocking and effort were so piss poor I thought he was trying to save the team by getting #7 hurt.

BoneKrusher
10-01-2012, 04:23 PM
**** Winston. He's had one good game in KC so far. I'll give a shit what he has to say as soon as he stops letting Kroy Biermann push his shit in.

he's a decent run blocker, Houston sure dont miss his ass.

BigMeatballDave
10-01-2012, 04:26 PM
One guy that actually stood up for Cassel was Eric Winston.

That guy is a leader.

Probably because he's the new guy.

saphojunkie
10-01-2012, 04:31 PM
Probably because he's the new guy.

That's what you do as an offensive lineman. Period. And QBs are never to blame OL for a pass rush.

It's the not-quite-unspoken rule of the nfl

TEX
10-01-2012, 04:34 PM
he's a decent run blocker, Houston sure dont miss his ass.

He is a very capable run blocker. The knock on him was his pass protection. He is only average there. The Texans wanted more pass protection with Schaub prone to injury. That's why they let him walk.

stonedstooge
10-01-2012, 04:35 PM
About time for a Casshole fake injury. Pisoli working on it

Dave Lane
10-01-2012, 04:36 PM
Look at this guy, believing that this isn't Pioli trying to throw Crennel under the bus.

Its called a pattern.

BryanBusby
10-01-2012, 04:40 PM
Its called a pattern.

It's actually a process.

siberian khatru
10-01-2012, 04:43 PM
So Cassel is just a backup, not a starter. But the only guy who could replace him is Peyton Manning? And failing to nab him ... YOU DO NOTHING ELSE TO IMPROVE THE POSITION.

Quinn was signed just in case Cassel got hurt. Otherwise, there was NOBODY out there who could've pushed Cassel.

That's what they're trying to sell us? That they KNOW Cassel sucks, but there's nothing they can do about it?

sedated
10-01-2012, 04:53 PM
It’s a little bit insulting for Pioli to come out now and blame Romeo for them sticking with Cassel.

If my boss told me to do one thing and then went to his bosses and told them that it was completely my call, I would quit the next day.

Count Alex's Losses
10-01-2012, 04:54 PM
The way Pioli constantly insults our intelligence is embarrassing.

He's been doing it since Orton was not re-signed.

BoneKrusher
10-01-2012, 04:57 PM
taken from the ESPN Home Page on Matt Cassel's future as the KC Starter:

Cassel was showered with boos throughout the first half Sunday, but was greeted by something much worse by the time the fourth quarter rolled around: silence.

The vast majority of the crowd had already headed for the parking lots.

i love it.

King_Chief_Fan
10-01-2012, 05:01 PM
I'm just weary of this FO treating the fans as though they are complete fools. Now, I won't argue the fact that some Chiefs fans are utterly devoid of anything resembling a thought process. Nonetheless, not all are and the FO's continued contempt for our intelligence and abuse of our loyalty is shameful.

FAX

those paying the prices, attending games, season tickets...they are all fools and they deserve what they get.

Chocolate Hog
10-01-2012, 05:02 PM
The way Pioli constantly insults our intelligence is embarrassing.

He's been doing it since Orton was not re-signed.

Or telling us Tyson Jackson was Russell Maryland

MahiMike
10-01-2012, 05:05 PM
Put Sanchez in.

Chiefnj2
10-01-2012, 05:07 PM
An article about an article based on speculation. What garbage.

BoneKrusher
10-01-2012, 05:08 PM
An article about an article based on speculation. What garbage.

i speculate that Pissoli, Romeo and Cassel suck.

Sure-Oz
10-01-2012, 05:10 PM
Report: Chiefs losing confidence in QB Cassel

Jason Cole of Yahoo Sports reports that Matt Cassel is losing the confidence of "players and many others" in the Chiefs' organization with his dismal play of late.
Cassel, incredibly, is on pace for 40 turnovers. Head coach Romeo Crennel still has Cassel's back, but it remains to be seen how long it will last. "Look, there's a big reason why they went after Peyton Manning as hard as they did this offseason," a source with knowledge of GM Scott Pioli's thinking told Yahoo. "What you're seeing from Cassel is pretty much what was expected. He's a really nice backup, not a starter." The Chiefs should have re-signed Kyle Orton in the offseason. They're stuck with Brady Quinn and Ricky Stanzi behind Cassel on the depth chart. Stanzi was awful in the preseason.
Source: Yahoo Sports
Oct 1 - 2:44 PM

Phobia
10-01-2012, 06:15 PM
A couple of comments about this...

1. "He's a really good backup QB." - ummmm, the problem with backups is they become starters when your starter gets hurt and then you're back to square one. Backups should be development prospects who are ready and capable when their number is called. Cassel is not a good backup. I HATE it when anybody says that. Drives me crazy.
2. What if the players lost confidence in #7 from the very beginning? I've been searching for answers why this team sucks so horrifically from top to bottom when they're very talented on paper and the only thing I can come up with is that the other 52 don't believe in the guy leading the way so they're just going through the motions.

JASONSAUTO
10-01-2012, 06:20 PM
A couple of comments about this...

1. "He's a really good backup QB." - ummmm, the problem with backups is they become starters when your starter gets hurt and then you're back to square one. Backups should be development prospects who are ready and capable when their number is called. Cassel is not a good backup. I HATE it when anybody says that. Drives me crazy.
2. What if the players lost confidence in #7 from the very beginning? I've been searching for answers why this team sucks so horrifically from top to bottom when they're very talented on paper and the only thing I can come up with is that the other 52 don't believe in the guy leading the way so they're just going through the motions.
this and this again

Big Chief Homer
10-01-2012, 06:40 PM
2. What if the players lost confidence in #7 from the very beginning? I've been searching for answers why this team sucks so horrifically from top to bottom when they're very talented on paper and the only thing I can come up with is that the other 52 don't believe in the guy leading the way so they're just going through the motions.[/QUOTE]

I dont think they respect him anymore, if they ever did at all.

How many times has he throw them under the bus(the grading out comment comes to mind).

He's constantly getting his receivers lit up with high throws.

The stupid interceptions (screen pass madness)

Everyone on the team is held accountable or has competetion except Cassel.

the guy cant even celebrate with his team mates with out making a total ass of himself. He reminds me of the waterboy when they score.

cdcox
10-01-2012, 06:49 PM
Finding out you don't have a quarterback, however, tugs the entire operation back to square one.

BRAND NEW INFORMATION

Bwana
10-01-2012, 06:51 PM
Well yeah.........

Molitoth
10-01-2012, 07:09 PM
A couple of comments about this...

1. "He's a really good backup QB." - ummmm, the problem with backups is they become starters when your starter gets hurt and then you're back to square one. Backups should be development prospects who are ready and capable when their number is called. Cassel is not a good backup. I HATE it when anybody says that. Drives me crazy.
2. What if the players lost confidence in #7 from the very beginning? I've been searching for answers why this team sucks so horrifically from top to bottom when they're very talented on paper and the only thing I can come up with is that the other 52 don't believe in the guy leading the way so they're just going through the motions.

and Phobia nails it.

Marcellus
10-01-2012, 07:13 PM
The way Pioli constantly insults our intelligence is embarrassing.

He's been doing it since Orton was not re-signed.

The fact you think Orton is the answer is an insult to everyone on CP's intelligence.

If you are going to bitch about not getting a QB, make it a worth while QB, say one from the draft or something and not just another gutless pussy.

Idiot.

boogblaster
10-01-2012, 07:16 PM
Of course he's losing the locker room. The guy is a piece of shit. It would truly suck to be one of his wide receivers.

^
this

Stumplifter
10-01-2012, 10:04 PM
That's interesting because during the game his blocking and effort were so piss poor I thought he was trying to save the team by getting #7 hurt.

This..... I had the same thought on a couple of those plays.... it looked like "The Longest Yard" on a couple...

Dayze
10-02-2012, 12:05 AM
Reportedly, poop tastes like shit. Reportedly

kcchiefsus
10-02-2012, 12:21 AM
I expected to see something about team mates losing faith in Cassel by the thread title. I am sure they have, but it is not in this article.

I remain convinced that Bowe is sick of him, but I am not aware of any words reflecting it.

Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports reported the fourth-year starter is "losing confidence from players and many others in the organization."

There are no direct quotes, but how is that not something about teammates losing faith in Cassel? Read much?

L.A. Chieffan
10-02-2012, 12:24 AM
Franchise leader in yards. I wouldnt call that subpar

Brock
10-02-2012, 12:24 AM
Franchise leader in yards. I wouldnt call that subpar

Who'd he beat out? Bill Kenney?

L.A. Chieffan
10-02-2012, 12:26 AM
Who'd he beat out? Bill Kenney?

Ever heard of Trent Green or Joe Montana?

You must be a new fan

Chiefs Pantalones
10-02-2012, 12:29 AM
Franchise leader in yards. I wouldnt call that subpar

After the first four weeks of the season, not overall in franchise history. And he got those yards in garbage time against soft zone defenses.

L.A. Chieffan
10-02-2012, 12:30 AM
After the first four weeks of the season, not overall in franchise history. And he got those yards in garbage time against soft zone defenses.

http://www.enchantedlearning.com/sgifs/Sheep_bw.GIF

Brock
10-02-2012, 12:32 AM
Ever heard of Trent Green or Joe Montana?

You must be a new fan

He's not the franchise leader in yards by any meaningful measure. He's barely top 10 in single season yards. He's a sack of shit, but then you already know this.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-02-2012, 12:32 AM
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/sgifs/Sheep_bw.GIF

Lol I know you're just trolling but I'm just pointing out the facts.

BossChief
10-02-2012, 12:32 AM
This team would be a superbowl contender with Trent Green.

L.A. Chieffan
10-02-2012, 12:34 AM
He's not the franchise leader in yards by any meaningful measure. He's barely top 10 in single season yards. He's a sack of shit, but then you already know this.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lupg946u5S1qe0eclo1_r5_500.gif

clyde05
10-02-2012, 12:36 AM
I just want to see my team win, is that too much to ask for? How can Pioli or Hunt defend themselves over all these years of not winning? Enough is enough! I get excited every Sunday to root for a Chiefs win, but that excitement is gone now cuz I know what most likely will be outcome. We all know Crennel, Pioli and Hunt know Cassel isn't a starting qb, but they don't care, that's pathetic!

Dayze
10-02-2012, 12:44 AM
Trent was the best QBwe've had since Lenny. Imo

Sorter
10-02-2012, 01:06 AM
^^^Without a doubt. Who else can possibly compete?

Montana, but it was a short period in the poor side of his career.

J Diddy
10-02-2012, 01:16 AM
^^^Without a doubt. Who else can possibly compete?

Montana, but it was a short period in the poor side of his career.

But he not only excelled, he ignited the fan base.

Sorter
10-02-2012, 01:29 AM
Yup. Green would have this team at 4-0 IMO.

Chiefspants
10-02-2012, 01:32 AM
Yup. Green would have this team at 4-0 IMO.

I would say we would be 2-2 or 3-1. Atlanta is a tossup in my mind, Trent always competed in shootouts, but it's hard to know where that one would have gone. (I'd like to think we would have pulled it out at home) I still think we would have dropped against Buffalo, the game started badly, was on the road, and nothing seemed to go right at any position. We would have destroyed New Orleans, many of those field goals would have been touchdowns. I also think we would have pulled it out against the Chargers, Green wouldn't have had those turnovers and would have capitalized from the opportunities that SD gave him.

/It's only a fantasy

Sorter
10-02-2012, 01:38 AM
I would say we would be 2-2 or 3-1. Atlanta is a tossup in my mind, Trent always competed in shootouts, but it's hard to know where that one would have gone. (I'd like to think we would have pulled it out at home) I still think we would have dropped against Buffalo, the game started badly, was on the road, and nothing seemed to go right at any position. We would have destroyed New Orleans, many of those field goals would have been touchdowns. I also think we would have pulled it out against the Chargers, Green wouldn't have had those turnovers and would have capitalized from the opportunities that SD gave him.

/It's only a fantasy

Certainly.

I do think that Green would have victimized their SS and LCB, while also utilizing Boss/Moeaki down the seam as the Bills have struggled there.

Only fantasy though.

Sorter
10-02-2012, 01:38 AM
By their, I mean the Bills.

Sorter
10-02-2012, 01:38 AM
Although that could apply to the Falcons.

PornChief
10-02-2012, 05:05 AM
http://i51.tinypic.com/2nty1rt.jpg

New World Order
10-02-2012, 05:14 AM
Yup. Green would have this team at 4-0 IMO.



3-1, remember how bad our d played against Atlanta?

suzzer99
10-02-2012, 10:40 AM
It's obvious to anyone who knows this team that they've lost faith in Castle since the beginning of the year. I think in 2010 they were willing to give them the benefit of the doubt because he has decent leadership qualities, and he was improving almost every game. But for some reason in 2011 he seem to lost all his confidence and regressed. Maybe it was after that playoff game. But whatever reason it's obvious to anyone with a brain that this team was discouraged to go into the season with Matt Cassel as their only option.

FAX
10-02-2012, 10:45 AM
It's obvious to anyone who knows this team that they've lost faith in Castle since the beginning of the year. I think in 2010 they were willing to give them the benefit of the doubt because he has decent leadership qualities, and he was improving almost every game. But for some reason in 2011 he seem to lost all his confidence and regressed. Maybe it was after that playoff game. But whatever reason it's obvious to anyone with a brain that this team was discouraged to go into the season with Matt Cassel as their only option.

He is on his 45th offensive coordinator in just 5 years. Plus, he doesn't have an o-line that is good enough to protect him. Also, he doesn't have the kind of skill players around him to take advantage of his natural talent. And, on top of that, the defenses we're playing are acting all mean right at the very beginning of games.

FAX

Radar Chief
10-02-2012, 10:46 AM
It's obvious to anyone who knows this team that they've lost faith in Castle since the beginning of the year. I think in 2010 they were willing to give them the benefit of the doubt because he has decent leadership qualities, and he was improving almost every game. But for some reason in 2011 he seem to lost all his confidence and regressed. Maybe it was after that playoff game. But whatever reason it's obvious to anyone with a brain that this team was discouraged to go into the season with Matt Cassel as their only option.

In 2010 Cassel had an offensive coordinator that understood the concept of hiding his deficiencies while playing up his few capabilities. Since then, not so much.

Brock
10-02-2012, 10:47 AM
3-1, remember how bad our d played against Atlanta?

They might have still lost, but it would have been 40-39.

suzzer99
10-02-2012, 10:49 AM
What happened to Jim Zorn's magic that he was going to work? Is he still even on the team?

InChiefsHell
10-02-2012, 10:57 AM
What happened to Jim Zorn's magic that he was going to work? Is he still even on the team?

I don't think Zorn or anyone for that matter could make chicken salad out of this chicken shit.

FAX
10-02-2012, 10:59 AM
In 2010 Cassel had an offensive coordinator that understood the concept of hiding his deficiencies while playing up his few capabilities. Since then, not so much.

And someone who would literally spank his ass every time he threw an INT.

FAX

FAX
10-02-2012, 11:00 AM
What happened to Jim Zorn's magic that he was going to work? Is he still even on the team?

That's a good question. Where is Zorn? I don't recall seeing him on the sidelines working with Cassel and evaluating situations and massaging his calves and guiding his thought processes and preparing his psyche for the next series.

FAX

Radar Chief
10-02-2012, 11:04 AM
I don't think Zorn or anyone for that matter could make chicken salad out of this chicken shit.

Someone here told a story that when Zorn first arrived he put a trash can in the back corner of the endzone and had the quarterbacks stand at the 20 and try to throw passes into the trash can. Of the three QBs, IIRC they were Cassel, Thigy and Brokey, the only one that could make the throw was Zorn.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-02-2012, 11:05 AM
Shocking.

notorious
10-02-2012, 11:06 AM
Someone here told a story that when Zorn first arrived he put a trash can in the back corner of the endzone and had the quarterbacks stand at the 20 and try to throw passes into the trash can. Of the three QBs, IIRC they were Cassel, Thigy and Brokey, the only one that could make the throw was Zorn.

That is a basic drill that college QB's run daily. :facepalm:

Frosty
10-02-2012, 11:09 AM
Someone here told a story that when Zorn first arrived he put a trash can in the back corner of the endzone and had the quarterbacks stand at the 20 and try to throw passes into the trash can. Of the three QBs, IIRC they were Cassel, Thigy and Brokey, the only one that could make the throw was Zorn.

Zorn has only been here since last year. It would have had to have been Cassel, Palko and Stanzi.

Pushead2
10-02-2012, 11:11 AM
Cassel will be the reason Bowe does not resign with us.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-02-2012, 11:12 AM
Geno will be the reason Bowe wins us a Championship.

There we go.

Radar Chief
10-02-2012, 11:13 AM
Zorn has only been here since last year. It would have had to have been Cassel, Palko and Stanzi.

Ah, thought I was off on that. Thanks.
If I could remember who posted it I'd go dig up the quote but all I remember is reading that during the offseason and having the same reaction notorious had.

lcarus
10-02-2012, 11:23 AM
So is Zorn still here?

bevischief
10-02-2012, 11:26 AM
So is Zorn still here?

Yes.

WhiteWhale
10-02-2012, 12:26 PM
3-1, remember how bad our d played against Atlanta?

The D was terrible, but that was par for the course for Trent Green.

The offense DID turn it over on 3 consecutive possessions. Even if the defense plays well you don't usually win if you do something that stupid.

I don't know what our record would be with Trent, but I can assure you the offense wouldn't be embarrassing itself every week.

BossChief
10-02-2012, 12:31 PM
So is Zorn still here?

He thinks as much of Cassel as we do.

pr_capone
10-02-2012, 02:11 PM
http://i.imgur.com/uW68p.jpg

whoman69
10-02-2012, 02:17 PM
I think the defense has turned the page on this team, but you can't expect them to be a team that will stop the other guys if they get a consistent short field.

BigMeatballDave
10-02-2012, 04:16 PM
I think the defense has turned the page on this team, but you can't expect them to be a team that will stop the other guys if they get a consistent short field.

I agree.

Cassel was given the opportunity to get back into the game.

He failed.

Per usual.

BoneKrusher
10-02-2012, 04:26 PM
Cassel was given the opportunity to get back into the game.

He failed.

Per usual.

the one thing MC's good at.

whoman69
10-02-2012, 05:15 PM
I agree.

Cassel was given the opportunity to get back into the game.

He failed.

Per usual.

the one thing MC's good at.

From now on he shall be referred to as Matt "Fail" Cassel

BoneKrusher
10-02-2012, 07:53 PM
From now on he shall be referred to as Matt "Fail" Cassel

or Matt Fassel LMAO

BossChief
10-02-2012, 08:12 PM
the one thing MC's good at.

He leads the NFL in turnovers with 10 through 4 games.

Coogs
10-02-2012, 08:13 PM
He leads the NFL in turnovers with 10 through 4 games.

Been a bit fortunate not to have more than 10 too!

Dayze
10-02-2012, 08:15 PM
Hey, Could be worse/Pioli

whoman69
10-02-2012, 08:25 PM
Hey, Could be worse/Pioli

He set the record for passing yards in the first four games/Pioli

FAX
10-02-2012, 08:28 PM
Matt The Hoople.

FAX

BossChief
10-02-2012, 08:30 PM
10 turnovers in the first 4 games has to be another Chiefs record, doesn't it?

petegz28
10-02-2012, 08:34 PM
I agree.

Cassel was given the opportunity to get back into the game.

He failed.

Per usual.

That't not Cassel's fault though. Did anyone really expect anything else?

tredadda
10-02-2012, 09:48 PM
The D was terrible, but that was par for the course for Trent Green.

The offense DID turn it over on 3 consecutive possessions. Even if the defense plays well you don't usually win if you do something that stupid.

I don't know what our record would be with Trent, but I can assure you the offense wouldn't be embarrassing itself every week.

Sadly we are scoring more this year than last.

BoneKrusher
10-02-2012, 09:52 PM
He leads the NFL in turnovers with 10 through 4 games.

i know, that's pathetic for a rookie but a QB that's been starting for 5 years.. LMAO

Coach
10-02-2012, 09:53 PM
Matt the Fail.

Coogs
10-02-2012, 09:53 PM
Sadly we are scoring more this year than last.

Once we get down by 20 or 30, yeah we are.

Inmem58
10-02-2012, 09:58 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/03/enuvetuz.jpg

Oh Snap
10-02-2012, 10:38 PM
RAC compares Charles to Cassel.

GTFO.

Apples to oranges.

Charles has a reputation as a bad motherfucker. Whats Cassels? lol this is just more and more proof that Romeo is in over his head.

FAX
10-02-2012, 11:24 PM
Apples to oranges.

Charles has a reputation as a bad mother****er. Whats Cassels? lol this is just more and more proof that Romeo is in over his head.

I don't know, Mr. Oh Snap. It looks to me as though he's just altering the question in order to avoid the answer.

I can't bring myself to believe that Roleo is that stupid.

FAX