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luv
10-02-2012, 11:18 AM
I am by no means a Cassel fan. He's a starting backup, at best. However, in looking at what's on the bench, I'm not convinced he isn't the best we've got (and that's really saying something about Quinn and Stanzi). IMO, it's almost like we're caught in a catch 22.

Also, let's say, by some miracle, Pioli actually drafts a QB in the first round. Who would you want?

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-02-2012, 11:19 AM
GENO OR DEATH!

lcarus
10-02-2012, 11:20 AM
GENO OR DEATH!

THIS OR DEATH

alpha_omega
10-02-2012, 11:20 AM
.... He's a starting backup, at best..

What's a starting backup?

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-02-2012, 11:21 AM
THIS OR DEATH


LMAO

lcarus
10-02-2012, 11:21 AM
What's a starting backup?

Someone who starts the game on the bench with a baseball cap on. Assuming he can get it on. He's gotten better at it though.

luv
10-02-2012, 11:22 AM
What's a starting backup?

An oximoron...lol. I'd say backup quality, but in the starting role.

KC Tattoo
10-02-2012, 11:23 AM
Geno Smith > Dieing in Aids fire > Matt Cassell & Brady Quinn

Saulbadguy
10-02-2012, 11:23 AM
This has yet to be discussed.

lcarus
10-02-2012, 11:24 AM
An oximoron...lol. I'd say backup quality, but in the starting role.

I think he's a starting CFL 2nd stringer, but that's just me.

siberian khatru
10-02-2012, 11:24 AM
NEW THREAD TOPIC

Buckweath
10-02-2012, 11:24 AM
Why bench Cassell? You keep going with him and if he continues his dreadful play, you end up with a great draft pick to pick a top QB prospect. If he turns it around, you might compete for the playoffs.

luv
10-02-2012, 11:25 AM
This has yet to be discussed.

Just neg rep me and get it over with. :p

Also, I haven't been on all that much lately, so I don't have a pulse on who is the popular pick for QB among CP brethren.

Deberg_1990
10-02-2012, 11:27 AM
IMO hes most likely the best QB on the team (heh, as if thats saying much...)

The problem is, he appears to have regressed from 2010, lost confidence and lost the team overall.

If im HC, id have to bench him and see how the team reacts to that.

I dont think Orton was the answer by any means, but look how much better the overall team played with him in there.

bevischief
10-02-2012, 11:28 AM
GENO OR DEATH!

This.

BoneKrusher
10-02-2012, 11:31 AM
It'sa Geno or bust.

luv
10-02-2012, 11:31 AM
GENO OR DEATH!

THIS OR DEATH

Geno Smith > Dieing in Aids fire > Matt Cassell & Brady Quinn

This.

Good. I was afraid someone would say Matt Barkley.

CoMoChief
10-02-2012, 11:32 AM
At least Quinn can lead a fucking WR and not leave them out to die.

Not saying Quinn is good....but at least he can throw that fucking football and will stand in the pocket and not shit his pants when pressure arrvies from opposing defenses.

CoMoChief
10-02-2012, 11:33 AM
Good. I was afraid someone would say Matt Barkley.

MATT BARKLEY!!!

suds79
10-02-2012, 11:34 AM
Also, let's say, by some miracle, Pioli actually drafts a QB in the first round. Who would you want?

I don't think Pioli has earned the right or shown the ability to pick a QB. You can't let him make that decision.

He's got to go.

And then get Geno.

And as to your point about not benching Cassel because there isn't a good plan B... Who cares? Throw us a bone and just get rid of the guy so we can feel better about that 1 thing in this miserable season.

If Quinn is worse? Fine. That just gives us a higher draft pick. But rid us of Cassel.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-02-2012, 11:36 AM
I don't think Pioli has earned the right or shown the ability to pick a QB. You can't let him make that decision.

He's got to go.

And then get Geno.

l.

I support this fantasy!

Sofa King
10-02-2012, 11:37 AM
Cassel is beaten before the game even starts, that's the problem.

Molitoth
10-02-2012, 11:38 AM
I'm not convinced he isn't the best we've got (and that's really saying something about Quinn and Stanzi)

How do you KNOW?

When has Stanzi or Quinn been in a Regular season game as the leader of the Starters on THIS Chiefs team?

Chemistry and leadership is key here.
The team MAY just rally around one of these guys. The best thing to do is FIND OUT. If not, cut them this offseason.

Frosty
10-02-2012, 11:39 AM
You just know that IF Pioli is here next year and IF he takes a QB, it's going to be Landry Jones.

Bane
10-02-2012, 11:41 AM
I wouldn't bench him.I'd just cut his worthless ass.

Sofa King
10-02-2012, 11:43 AM
Your backup needs to be ready to play if your starting qb is incapable of doing the job. Cassel is incapable. Try Quinn. It's not like we need to keep Cassel in to protect our record, which is currently positioning us as the dead last AFC West team yet again.

TEX
10-02-2012, 11:47 AM
Bench him. Don't look back. Move on.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-02-2012, 11:48 AM
Keep him, TANK(!), fire Peeholi.

The deal is done.

Predarat
10-02-2012, 11:48 AM
Those cheap ass shit headed bastards should have fucking kept Orton!

Bane
10-02-2012, 11:49 AM
Bench him. Don't look back. Move on.

He'll cause too much drama/bullshit on the bench.If he's not the starter he has to go,which I'm all for anyway.

patteeu
10-02-2012, 11:50 AM
What's a starting backup?

It's like a first second string guy.

Predarat
10-02-2012, 11:51 AM
And Orton is no Joe Montana by any means, but at least a good alternative and did well last year.

tooge
10-02-2012, 11:53 AM
I think if I was the head coach, at this point, I'm goin with Brady. Not sure Brady has much or not, but he's never been the qb of a team with this much weaponry around him. Maybe, just maybe he can develop into a decent or better qb. No point in watching Cassel anymore tho

qabbaan
10-02-2012, 11:53 AM
People are thinking we should bench Cassel?

Dayze
10-02-2012, 12:14 PM
THIS OR DEATH

cake or death...

Easy 6
10-02-2012, 12:14 PM
With any luck, Quinn would pull a Kolb & magically start playing respectably once the bullets are real... its highly doubtful but who knows, but there is no chance it could be any worse than castle, theres literally nothing to lose.

I understand, in principle, many wanting to lose out... but i personally dont want to take a kick to the teeth like that every week, get quinn in there & just SEE what happens, again, there is nothing to lose & maybe it would spark the team.

whoman69
10-02-2012, 02:18 PM
I'm all for the execution of our quarterbacks.

BigMeatballDave
10-02-2012, 02:36 PM
I think most of us who want Cassel benched, isn't because Quinn would be better.

It's because we would FINALLY be moving on from Cassel.

rockymtnchief
10-02-2012, 02:45 PM
Find somebody who hasn't played in four years, talk him off his dads tractor, start him this Sunday. Same outcome. Same stats.

notorious
10-02-2012, 02:46 PM
Find somebody who hasn't played in four years, talk him off his dads tractor, start him this Sunday. Same outcome. Same stats.

Colt McCoy?

rockymtnchief
10-02-2012, 02:51 PM
Colt McCoy?

Too young. Make sure he's old and shell shocked.

notorious
10-02-2012, 02:53 PM
Too young. Make sure he's old and shell shocked.

Billy Joe Tolliver?

rockymtnchief
10-02-2012, 02:56 PM
Billy Joe Tolliver?

Sounds good to the Chiefs. League minimum.

J Diddy
10-02-2012, 03:01 PM
I'm all for Stanzi. Get him in a game, a real game, and see what he's got. A handfull of snaps with the 2's and 3's in preseason isn't an accurate test in my opinion.

Best case scenario is he lights it up and the worst is that he stinks it up. Either way we're good in the worst case scenario we will have an accurate feel for who we have and we'll suck bad enough to draft the quarterback we will want.

WV
10-02-2012, 05:27 PM
See if that Sanu kid from the Bengals is available, he threw a nice deep ball compared to Casshole.

Count Alex's Wins
10-02-2012, 08:16 PM
I'd give Cassel two more games. If he loses them both, put in Quinn. If he sucks, put in Stanzi.

You have to evaluate what you have at the QB position when your starter is a lost cause.

We won't do that.

We'll roll with Casshole for the rest of the season.

If Pioli isn't fired, Casshole will start in 2013.

BigMeatballDave
10-02-2012, 08:25 PM
I'd give Cassel two more games. If he loses them both, put in Quinn. If he sucks, put in Stanzi.

You have to evaluate what you have at the QB position when your starter is a lost cause.

We won't do that.

We'll roll with Casshole for the rest of the season.

If Pioli isn't fired, Casshole will start in 2013.

If the Chiefs are 1-5 going into the bye, there is NO WAY Kasl starts the next game.

Especially if he tosses 2 or 3 more INTs in the next 2.

Count Alex's Wins
10-02-2012, 08:49 PM
If the Chiefs are 1-5 going into the bye, there is NO WAY Kasl starts the next game.


It's Pioli.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Frazod
10-02-2012, 08:55 PM
Can anybody think of anyone we could pluck off the scrap heat as an alternative to the trio of turds we have at QB right now? I mean, obviously we're dealing in degrees of suck of here, but there must be one of two out there better than what we've got.

Rausch
10-02-2012, 08:55 PM
If Romeo is 1-5 he knows his ass is gone. At that point he might as well make a change...

KcMizzou
10-02-2012, 08:59 PM
Can anybody think of anyone we could pluck off the scrap heat as an alternative to the trio of turds we have at QB right now? I mean, obviously we're dealing in degrees of suck of here, but there must be one of two out there better than what we've got.Garrard maybe? If he's even healthy.

I'd rather see them roll with what we've got, and do whatever it takes to draft a stud. But that's not going to happen when people are trying to save their jobs.

Rausch
10-02-2012, 09:01 PM
Garrard maybe? If he's even healthy.

I'd rather see them roll with what we've got, and do whatever it takes to draft a stud. But that's not going to happen when people are trying to save their jobs.

I agree. I'd prefer to audition the other two QB's just to see if either is worth keeping on the roster next year...

Frazod
10-02-2012, 09:01 PM
Garrard maybe? If he's even healthy.

I'd rather see them roll with what we've got, and do whatever it takes to draft a stud. But that's not going to happen when people are trying to save their jobs.

Yeah, I thought about him. Collins, maybe? Ugh. Beyond that (and I won't even say the "F" word), I've got nothing.

KcMizzou
10-02-2012, 09:01 PM
Heh, Stanzi. Now that would get us the kind of draft position we need.

WV
10-02-2012, 09:04 PM
Can anybody think of anyone we could pluck off the scrap heat as an alternative to the trio of turds we have at QB right now? I mean, obviously we're dealing in degrees of suck of here, but there must be one of two out there better than what we've got.

At this point I don't want anyone any better. I refuse to root for them to lose, but this group of QB's gives us the best shot at Geno Smith!!!

KcMizzou
10-02-2012, 09:06 PM
At this point I don't want anyone any better. I refuse to root for them to lose, but this group of QB's gives us the best shot at Geno Smith!!!We just might... be... bad enough.

WV
10-02-2012, 09:07 PM
We just might... be... bad enough.

That's the spirit! o:-)

Hoover
10-02-2012, 09:23 PM
Benching the turd means we will flush the turd. If the others suck, it means we will get a top pick in the draft. Its a win/win

luv
10-02-2012, 10:43 PM
At this point I don't want anyone any better. I refuse to root for them to lose, but this group of QB's gives us the best shot at Geno Smith!!!

Is Geno Smith a senior? If not, do we know that he's coming out after this year?

Count Alex's Wins
10-02-2012, 10:46 PM
If Romeo is 1-5 he knows his ass is gone. At that point he might as well make a change...

I'd like to see Romeo grow a beard and starting pulling out bags of fast food during the game, munching on a double quarter pounder between defensive series. Mustard falling down his shirt.

Might as well have a snack while Cassel fails, not like your coaching is gonna do shit.

mr. tegu
10-02-2012, 10:58 PM
I can't believe people still think Cassel is better than Quinn...

pr_capone
10-02-2012, 10:59 PM
This has yet to be discussed.

LMAO

crazycoffey
10-02-2012, 11:03 PM
Thoughts I'll have when he's benched? About fucking time!

Ebolapox
10-02-2012, 11:04 PM
we should stick with cassel. you know, because we wouldn't want to end the pain any time soon.

Saccopoo
10-03-2012, 12:34 AM
I am by no means a Cassel fan. He's a starting backup, at best. However, in looking at what's on the bench, I'm not convinced he isn't the best we've got (and that's really saying something about Quinn and Stanzi). IMO, it's almost like we're caught in a catch 22.

Also, let's say, by some miracle, Pioli actually drafts a QB in the first round. Who would you want?

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