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RunKC
10-02-2012, 11:34 PM
God I hate this. Tired of waiting for this god damned team to develop. It's gonna take at least 3 more years even if we do get a good QB (best case scenario).
Plus it's gonna be even longer for us to get our new GM's "players" right? 3 more years of setting up the new GM's style, brand on the team, culture, blah blah.

Man I'm tired of waiting on this team to do something in January. I really hope Clark picks the right fucking guy this time around.

The first questions Clark should ask the new GM should be:

1. Will you draft a first round QB?
2. Are you subject to changes if need be or gambles to make the team better?
3. Do you hate the Patriots as much as we all do?

Bump
10-02-2012, 11:36 PM
if we get Geno Smith, it will be within 3 years.

mcaj22
10-02-2012, 11:37 PM
if we get Geno Smith, it will be within 3 years.

we will need a WR for him to throw to

and a ton of other talent to surround him with

aka three years

BigMeatballDave
10-02-2012, 11:44 PM
we will need a WR for him to throw to

and a ton of other talent to surround him with

aka three years

A new GM will realize how important Bowe is and re-sign him.

If Geno is the real deal, there aren't many pieces to replace.

2014 we're in the post-season.

Bump
10-02-2012, 11:44 PM
we will need a WR for him to throw to

and a ton of other talent to surround him with

aka three years

unless Bowe wants out even if we do get Geno, which we prob won't lets face it. But damn it would be nice. We'd still have Baldwin, Dex, Breaston and could grab one in later rounds. and 2 solid but injury prone TE's. Running backs for days and an o-line that could be good next year.

#1 Bronco's Fan
10-03-2012, 12:28 AM
God I hate this. Tired of waiting for this god damned team to develop. It's gonna take at least 3 more years even if we do get a good QB (best case scenario).
Plus it's gonna be even longer for us to get our new GM's "players" right? 3 more years of setting up the new GM's style, brand on the team, culture, blah blah.

Man I'm tired of waiting on this team to do something in January. I really hope Clark picks the right ****ing guy this time around.

The first questions Clark should ask the new GM should be:

1. Will you draft a first round QB?
2. Are you subject to changes if need be or gambles to make the team better?
3. Do you hate the Patriots as much as we all do?

Listen, if you get a great young QB the three year wait will be fun! Look at the Redskins. They will have a 3 year wait until they can win the division but they are going to have a blast until then.

Count Zarth
10-03-2012, 12:29 AM
The team has some talent. If we get the RIGHT rookie QB, we could be good. We could win a playoff game right away.

Other teams have done it. We could do it.

Chin up.

RunKC
10-03-2012, 12:41 AM
The team has some talent. If we get the RIGHT rookie QB, we could be good. We could win a playoff game right away.

Other teams have done it. We could do it.

Chin up.

I think a ton of it has to do with who the head coach is too. I think this team needs a guy to motivate these guys. Other than that we are close.

Hopefully we have a season like the Bengals did last year with their rookie QB.

I would love Geno Smith, but if we don't get a shot at him, I would dig Tyler Wilson or Aaron Murray. I like both of them too.

Hell if our team can push Cass-hole to 10 wins I'm sure they can do the same for a rookie QB.

Chris Meck
10-03-2012, 12:51 AM
Listen, Cassel is SO inept that a rookie QB could absolutely play better. I think Cam Newton, RGIII, Luck, and Dalton all show that it can be done.

What I really don't want to do is start all over with totally new systems requiring different personnel and have to do that build over.

Meaning, I want to stick with a 3-4 (hopefully a one gap, zone blitzing Pittsburgh style?) and I want to re-sign Bowe, Albert, and Dorsey.

Let's not go back to a 4-3, negating a lot of the talent we have on hand, for example.

splatbass
10-03-2012, 01:10 AM
God I hate this. Tired of waiting for this god damned team to develop. It's gonna take at least 3 more years even if we do get a good QB (best case scenario).
Plus it's gonna be even longer for us to get our new GM's "players" right? 3 more years of setting up the new GM's style, brand on the team, culture, blah blah.

Man I'm tired of waiting on this team to do something in January. I really hope Clark picks the right ****ing guy this time around.

The first questions Clark should ask the new GM should be:

1. Will you draft a first round QB?
2. Are you subject to changes if need be or gambles to make the team better?
3. Do you hate the Patriots as much as we all do?

New GM? When did he fire Pioli?

Aren't you jumping the gun a little?

RunKC
10-03-2012, 01:54 AM
New GM? When did he fire Pioli?

Aren't you jumping the gun a little?

He better fire Pioli. He literally has no choice. I don't think the fans have ever been this livid with the Chiefs.

And who is Pioli gonna hire if he is forced to fire Romeo? Nobody wants to work with him and the only legit people who he could hire would be Josh McDaniels or Kirk Ferentz which nobody will support.

It's over for Pioli. Now it's time for him to face the music and watch as this team continues to blow up in his face.

Guru
10-03-2012, 01:58 AM
Yep, Clark all but has to fire Pioli. There is no way in hell he is going to give Pioli a chance to pick a 3rd head coach in only 4 years and another QB.

but, then again, this is the life of a Chiefs fan.

BigMeatballDave
10-03-2012, 02:05 AM
New GM? When did he fire Pioli?

Aren't you jumping the gun a little?

:facepalm:

NJChiefsFan
10-03-2012, 02:08 AM
We were in the playoffs in our 2nd year with this regime. Replace Cassel with Geno Smith or another young QB with potential. Who knows how it ends up. Atleast there is a chance. Thats all I want. I want to go into the season believing there is a chance without knowing deep down I'm kidding myself. Having to watch the team fall apart to get better is destroying my soul as a sports fan.

Count Zarth
10-03-2012, 02:13 AM
We were in the playoffs in our 2nd year with this regime.

Fool's gold, as the playoff game proved.

NJChiefsFan
10-03-2012, 02:18 AM
Fool's gold, as the playoff game proved.

My point is that with a QB like Geno that may not have been such a joke of a game. You don't need 4 years to turn around a franchise, especially one with a good QB. If you can get to a playoff game in year 2 with a crap QB, what can you do with a real one?

KC_Lee
10-03-2012, 05:02 AM
The team has some talent. If we get the RIGHT rookie QB, we could be good. We could win a playoff game right away.

Other teams have done it. We could do it.

Chin up.

This AND a competent, young and hungry coaching staff. You put a Geno Smith on this team with the current coaching staff and we would waste a great talent. I really don't see anything or anybody on Grand Pa RAC's staff that could develop a young QB.

However, you surround a young QB with a good staff and help develop and grow his skill set the sky is the limit.

splatbass
10-03-2012, 01:09 PM
I really don't see anything or anybody on Grand Pa RAC's staff that could develop a young QB.



Jim Zorn.

MagicHef
10-03-2012, 01:12 PM
Watching a young QB develop is fun whether you're winning or not. Cutler was fun, and he never even took Denver to the playoffs.

3rd&48ers
10-03-2012, 01:13 PM
if we get Geno Smith, it will be within 3 years.

To get Geno the Chiefs will have to trade up and you know as well as I do the Cheaps won't do that... Why do you guys subject yourself to this pain every year?

KC_Lee
10-03-2012, 01:22 PM
Jim Zorn.

Yeah cause he's done wonders with Stanzi.

suds79
10-03-2012, 01:27 PM
Watching a young QB develop is fun whether you're winning or not. Cutler was fun, and he never even took Denver to the playoffs.

Yep. Never know when something crazy might happen. If I'm remembering right, Big Ben won it all in his 2nd year.

The idea of more years of waiting really doesn't bother me. I've since long been resigned to that the Chiefs are years away from being relevant until they draft a QB in the 1st round. And if anyone saw it differently, I don't know if you fully appreciate just how much this league is all about your HC & QB.

splatbass
10-03-2012, 01:34 PM
Yeah cause he's done wonders with Stanzi.

Maybe Stanzi just sucks. Matt Hasselbeck and Joe Flacco did well under him.

Molitoth
10-03-2012, 01:36 PM
If I'm remembering right, Big Ben won it all in his 2nd year

Yep and Dan Marino went to the SB his sophmore season as well.

TEX
10-03-2012, 01:56 PM
God I hate this. Tired of waiting for this god damned team to develop. It's gonna take at least 3 more years even if we do get a good QB (best case scenario).
Plus it's gonna be even longer for us to get our new GM's "players" right? 3 more years of setting up the new GM's style, brand on the team, culture, blah blah.

Man I'm tired of waiting on this team to do something in January. I really hope Clark picks the right ****ing guy this time around.

The first questions Clark should ask the new GM should be:

1. Will you draft a first round QB?
2. Are you subject to changes if need be or gambles to make the team better?
3. Do you hate the Patriots as much as we all do?

New GM? Bet Clark keeps this one. We'll definately get a whole new coaching staff next season though.

TEX
10-03-2012, 01:57 PM
Maybe Stanzi just sucks. Matt Hasselbeck and Joe Flacco did well under him.

He does. Stanzi doesn't belong on a NFL roster. He's practice squad material at best.

DaneMcCloud
10-03-2012, 02:08 PM
Jim Zorn.

No.

Lonewolf Ed
10-03-2012, 02:08 PM
The team has some talent. If we get the RIGHT rookie QB, we could be good. We could win a playoff game right away.

Other teams have done it. We could do it.

Chin up.

Yes, other teams have done it, but they are not in the same group as the Chiefs. KC is in with the likes of Cleveland, the Bengals, and other sad sack wrecks.

splatbass
10-03-2012, 02:44 PM
No.

Why? He has a good record before the Chiefs gave him crap QBs.

Spott
10-03-2012, 02:50 PM
3 years is just a drop in the bucket. Went to my first game in 79 as a little kid and we haven't gotten a good QB since.

saphojunkie
10-03-2012, 02:51 PM
God I hate this. Tired of waiting for this god damned team to develop. It's gonna take at least 3 more years even if we do get a good QB (best case scenario).
Plus it's gonna be even longer for us to get our new GM's "players" right? 3 more years of setting up the new GM's style, brand on the team, culture, blah blah.

Man I'm tired of waiting on this team to do something in January. I really hope Clark picks the right ****ing guy this time around.

The first questions Clark should ask the new GM should be:

1. Will you draft a first round QB?
2. Are you subject to changes if need be or gambles to make the team better?
3. Do you hate the Patriots as much as we all do?

Three year wait for what?

Hope? Andrew Luck
Entertainment? Robert Griffin III
Competitiveness after ineptitude? Cam Newton
Playoffs? Andy Dalton
Playoff victory? Mark Sanchez
Super Bowl appearance? Ben Roethlesberger

Quit whining!

mcaj22
10-03-2012, 02:52 PM
A new GM will realize how important Bowe is and re-sign him.

If Geno is the real deal, there aren't many pieces to replace.

2014 we're in the post-season.

this would require Clark to fire Pioli the day/week this current season ends.

If he is flip flopping for a new GM by January/February then Bowe is gone. If he keeps Pioli then Bowe is also gone.

There is a really high chance of no Bowe, unless he is tagged again. and if Bowe gets tagged again I am sure he will not like that.


also to even have a shot at Geno I believe Pioli has to go. Scott Pioli drafting Geno Smith? Pioli putting his ego and Pats Tree bullshit aside to do something different? No way that happens.

saphojunkie
10-03-2012, 02:54 PM
Yes, other teams have done it, but they are not in the same group as the Chiefs. KC is in with the likes of Cleveland, the Bengals, and other sad sack wrecks.

The Bengals went to the playoffs with Dalton in his rookie year.

mcaj22
10-03-2012, 02:55 PM
yea the Bengals went out and finally did it differently and they are set for the next decade with Dalton+AJ Green to be competitive.

They had to shed all those cancers like Palmer and Ocho to do it

3rd&48ers
10-03-2012, 03:00 PM
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Lonewolf Ed
10-03-2012, 03:01 PM
The Bengals went to the playoffs with Dalton in his rookie year.

True, but the suckage before that point was Chiefs level!

ChiefsCountry
10-03-2012, 03:02 PM
If the Chiefs get a franchise quarterback this year, we are potentially looking at two really good runs with him. The first is now, the talent is in place for him to come in and look pretty damn good as a game manger. The second is when he hits his peak around age 28/29 etc when the team will need to be rebuilt.

DeezNutz
10-03-2012, 03:03 PM
Get a franchise QB and there's no such thing as rebuilding, just reloading.

BigMeatballDave
10-03-2012, 03:03 PM
this would require Clark to fire Pioli the day/week this current season ends.

If he is flip flopping for a new GM by January/February then Bowe is gone. If he keeps Pioli then Bowe is also gone.

There is a really high chance of no Bowe, unless he is tagged again. and if Bowe gets tagged again I am sure he will not like that.


also to even have a shot at Geno I believe Pioli has to go. Scott Pioli drafting Geno Smith? Pioli putting his ego and Pats Tree bullshit aside to do something different? No way that happens.1st of all, Duh.

Secondly, FA doesn't begin until March.

mcaj22
10-03-2012, 03:14 PM
1st of all, Duh.

Secondly, FA doesn't begin until March.

that doesn't give you much time to work out a new deal, especially if the other side is not budging.

example Brandon Carr. They had to make a jump on Routt in February because Pioli knew his fears come March was Brandon Carr testing FA and not budging on any deal from Piolis end.

The same will happen with at least one of Bowe, Dorsey, Albert, if not two of them. Only one tag to go around and as it stands right now Pioli has NO leverage to get any of these guys to sign long term, unless he severely overpays them. And he's not doing that.

saphojunkie
10-03-2012, 03:19 PM
that doesn't give you much time to work out a new deal, especially if the other side is not budging.

example Brandon Carr. They had to make a jump on Routt in February because Pioli knew his fears come March was Brandon Carr testing FA and not budging on any deal from Piolis end.

The same will happen with at least one of Bowe, Dorsey, Albert, if not two of them. Only one tag to go around and as it stands right now Pioli has NO leverage to get any of these guys to sign long term, unless he severely overpays them. And he's not doing that.

I could get a deal done with Bowe in 24 hours if I had the power to do so. It's not difficult. It's just stubborn GMs being stubborn assholes in their stubbornness and stubborn stubbornity.

mcaj22
10-03-2012, 03:21 PM
I could get a deal done with Bowe in 24 hours if I had the power to do so. It's not difficult. It's just stubborn GMs being stubborn assholes in their stubbornness and stubborn stubbornity.

it doesnt help that the team sucks now, the season is a mess and it's going to be hard to sell Bowe on staying here with crap like Romeo, Cassel, etc. Unless Pioli can give promises of improvement. Why wouldnt Bowe want to go play for a better team?

BigMeatballDave
10-03-2012, 03:26 PM
that doesn't give you much time to work out a new deal, especially if the other side is not budging.

example Brandon Carr. They had to make a jump on Routt in February because Pioli knew his fears come March was Brandon Carr testing FA and not budging on any deal from Piolis end.

The same will happen with at least one of Bowe, Dorsey, Albert, if not two of them. Only one tag to go around and as it stands right now Pioli has NO leverage to get any of these guys to sign long term, unless he severely overpays them. And he's not doing that.

If Pioli isn't fired, I don't care what happens after that.

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-03-2012, 05:02 PM
Chocolate Snake would have this team not only going to, but winning a playoff game Year 1.