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Holladay
10-03-2012, 12:37 PM
The wife has a friend from work that is staying with us a few days. Wife tells me not to talk about politics becasue friend doesnt know much about it.

My candid and tried answer is "Fine, how bout them Chiefs?" To which the friend answered that she was a die-hard Browns fan. My chin hit the floor.

#1 they exist...I thought they were like unicorns, big foot or Nessy.
#2 I'm talking to one.
#3 In my house with witnesses.
#4 I thought I had it bad.
#5 I guess I should appreciate being a Chiefs fan.

She lamented and I shared her pain. The discusion didn't last very long. What do you talk about, which team is crappier? I did ask when is the correct time to start wearing bags on our heads.

So, admittedly, I don't know much about the Browns and their history. When was their last playoff win? Have they won a Superbowl? Who are some of their better players in history? In the last 10 years, has their suckage been as bad as ours?

Help educate me so I can be more informed and have a better conversation tonight.

BTW, my wife was correct as to the politics stuff. She doesnt know crap. She's a HUGE Obama fan:)

tooge
10-03-2012, 12:40 PM
Here ya go;

So, you're a browns fan?
So you're kind of used to takin it in the tailpipe then?

Now move in for the threesome. Oh, also, Tits or GTFO

Bewbies
10-03-2012, 12:41 PM
The Browns have an amazing fan base. I think they have the largest fan club in the USA.

Lucky bastards got a new owner this year too.

Dicky McElephant
10-03-2012, 12:50 PM
Pics or GTFO

wazu
10-03-2012, 12:51 PM
Our playoff win drought is longer than theirs. They have 1st round QB starting for them and looking good. They should pity us.

Dr. Facebook Fever
10-03-2012, 12:55 PM
Tell her the old Browns are really good and won a Super Bowl not long ago. See if she swings at you.

L.A. Chieffan
10-03-2012, 12:57 PM
I think it's been the same amount of time for both franchises in terms of playoffs wins.

L.A. Chieffan
10-03-2012, 12:58 PM
And they've drafted a couple of first round qbs.

L.A. Chieffan
10-03-2012, 12:58 PM
And they got rid of RAC and Quinn who are now on our team

Molitoth
10-03-2012, 12:59 PM
Welp, the chiefs have better looking uniforms....

That's about it.

L.A. Chieffan
10-03-2012, 01:00 PM
And they've drafted a couple of first round qbs.

Actually I think they've drafted three first rounders since us.

Deberg_1990
10-03-2012, 01:00 PM
Cleveland 95 airs tonight on NFL Network!


http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/blitz/index.php/2012/10/03/early-look-at-cleveland-95/


Bill Belichick’s final season with the Browns will be documented tonight at 8 on NFL Network’s “Cleveland ‘95″ documentary.

Here are some Patriots-related snippets:



Belichick: “We wanted a tough, hard-nosed, blue-collar football team. That’s what Cleveland is and that’s what we wanted our football team to be.”

Belichick: “I felt bad for that team, the players and the coaches that were working so hard with less than no support. The owner was nowhere to be found; he was in Baltimore. It kind of felt like you were on a deserted island fending for yourself.”

Belichick: “We got better every year, our program improved every year. I wish that it would have turned out a bit differently, but we tried to do what we could and the best that we could for ourselves, for the team and for the city of Cleveland. I have no regrets about that.”

Eric Mangini: “There was that sense of we had turned the corner. All of that time, all of that work, all of that effort — we were poised to make that next jump.”

Scott Pioli: “Those years in Cleveland, those teams, those people impacted the NFL. It impacted a lot of football.”

Ozzie Newsome: “When I won in 2000 (with the Ravens), I owe a lot of that to Bill Belichick.”

Holladay
10-03-2012, 01:01 PM
As to the fanbase, she mentioned that there was 4 major Brown clubs/groups in Las Vegas. She lives 5 months and 29 days in Cleveland and 6 months and 1 day in Vegas.

I was surprised about the Vegas fan base.

So, you're a browns fan?
So you're kind of used to takin it in the tailpipe then?

Now move in for the threesome. Oh, also, Tits or GTFO

thought about that, but I haven't seen her in the daylight, she's 60 and a lil heavy.

tooge
10-03-2012, 01:01 PM
Damn you guys are off. Must be the banner hooplah. A n00b states that there is a chick staying at his house with he and the wifey and only one pics or gtfo? Sheesh.

IS SHE HOT?

Deberg_1990
10-03-2012, 01:03 PM
Actually I think they've drafted three first rounders since us.

4

Kosar
Couch
Quinn
Wheedon

tooge
10-03-2012, 01:03 PM
As to the fanbase, she mentioned that there was 4 major Brown clubs/groups in Las Vegas. She lives 5 months and 29 days in Cleveland and 6 months and 1 day in Vegas.

I was surprised about the Vegas fan base.



thought about that, but I haven't seen her in the daylight, she's 60 and a lil heavy.

Forget everything I've posted in this thread please.

alpha_omega
10-03-2012, 01:04 PM
At least they had the guts to take a QB in the 1st.

Oh, and how bout them Indians?

and...how bout them Cavaliers?

vailpass
10-03-2012, 01:05 PM
See if she swings.

fixed

L.A. Chieffan
10-03-2012, 01:05 PM
Oh ya forgot about Kosar

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-03-2012, 01:08 PM
Our playoff win drought is longer than theirs. They have 1st round QB starting for them and looking good. They should pity us.

Weeden LMAO

SNR
10-03-2012, 01:09 PM
Tell her Lebron James left Cleveland because she's ugly

Trevo_410
10-03-2012, 01:11 PM
youd think a 60 year old would be wiser than to like obama....

chiefzilla1501
10-03-2012, 01:12 PM
Know lots of browns fans. Awesome fan base. While Bengal fans disappear if the team is . 500 browns fans show up in droves to watch every game.

The browns hVe had it way worse. They've had three super bowl runs cut short by either incredibly stupid coaching or an elway 97 yard drive. Add in model selling out the team then watching that team win the super bowl a few years later in Baltimore. Add in that no Cleveland team has won ANYTHING in what, 50 years? That includes baseball,football,basketball.

So when you think kc is bad, remeber... Surprisingly it could be worse. Way worse.

Holladay
10-03-2012, 01:15 PM
I was grinning at all the piihb quips and thread sucks without pics.

Like I said, best light that I saw her was fire light and 60. I guess she'd be ok if you like grandma.

If you REALLY want, guess I could get a pic.

L.A. Chieffan
10-03-2012, 01:15 PM
Chiefs slogan next season:

AT LEAST WE'RE NOT CLEVELAND

theelusiveeightrop
10-03-2012, 01:17 PM
Can't believe anyone admits they live in Cleveland, even part-time.

Holladay
10-03-2012, 01:18 PM
Lots of good info. I've miss remembered a lot of it.

youd think a 60 year old would be wiser than to like obama....


What's the quote? If you are less 40, you are a liberal. If you are over 40 and not a conservative, you are stupid?

King_Chief_Fan
10-03-2012, 01:21 PM
misery loves company....sounds like two people in the house have nothing to talk about when it comes to football

Predarat
10-03-2012, 01:23 PM
Both have been through the pain of one Marty Schottenheimer.

whoman69
10-03-2012, 01:26 PM
Nessie exists.

Amnorix
10-03-2012, 01:30 PM
So, admittedly, I don't know much about the Browns and their history. When was their last playoff win? Have they won a Superbowl? Who are some of their better players in history? In the last 10 years, has their suckage been as bad as ours?



In order, and off the top of my head so don't hold it against me...

Last playoff win is probably 1994 against the Patriots. Belichick beats his old mentor Parcells. In 1995 the season falls apart when, after the third or fourth game, owner Art Modell announces the team is moving to Baltimore. In 1996, after BB is fired and using a pick he had got when he did his patented trading down, the Ravens pick Ray Lewis, then go on to win the Super Bowl in 2000. Then the Pats (with the Browns' old coach) win 3 out of 4.

So basically imagine this:

Hunt says he's moving the team to Los Angeles, then fires Romeo.

In 2013, using a pick that the 2012 Chiefs used when still in KC, draft possibly the best linebacker ever. In 2016 they win the Super Bowl.

Meanwhile, Romeo Crennel, now HC of a different team, wins 3 out of 4 Super Bowls in another city.

Oh, and 15 years later (2027) you still haven't been to the playoffs, Crennel is commonly regarded as the best HC in football, if not the best ever, and is ALWAYS in the playoffs.

THAT is what it means to be a Browns fan...

(side note: I always used to laugh at die-hard Red Sox fans over the misery and woe. They don't know misery. Look at the Chicago Cubs you self-centered bastards. Not only no WS in a longer period of time, but a helluva lot less talent and playoff/WS appearances).


Browns never won a SB. Never even BEEN to the SB I don't believe. The Browns were THE dominant NFL team in the 50s and into the early 60s, with guys like Otto Graham (50s) and Jim Brown (60s). Head coach was Paul Brown (who the team was named after), who was probably THE best HC in football history (college and pro, he dominated). (side note: Art Modell FIRED both Paul Brown and Bill Belichick, both of whom would probably make the top 10, if not top 5, all time best HC list of just about anybody).

Molitoth
10-03-2012, 01:34 PM
For some stupid reason, if the Chiefs moved to LA... I would still follow them.

I wonder how many Browns fans became Ravens fans.
It sure would have paid off.

Amnorix
10-03-2012, 01:37 PM
Cleveland 95 airs tonight on NFL Network!


http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/blitz/index.php/2012/10/03/early-look-at-cleveland-95/


Bill Belichick’s final season with the Browns will be documented tonight at 8 on NFL Network’s “Cleveland ‘95″ documentary.

Here are some Patriots-related snippets:



Belichick: “We wanted a tough, hard-nosed, blue-collar football team. That’s what Cleveland is and that’s what we wanted our football team to be.”

Belichick: “I felt bad for that team, the players and the coaches that were working so hard with less than no support. The owner was nowhere to be found; he was in Baltimore. It kind of felt like you were on a deserted island fending for yourself.”

Belichick: “We got better every year, our program improved every year. I wish that it would have turned out a bit differently, but we tried to do what we could and the best that we could for ourselves, for the team and for the city of Cleveland. I have no regrets about that.”

Eric Mangini: “There was that sense of we had turned the corner. All of that time, all of that work, all of that effort — we were poised to make that next jump.”

Scott Pioli: “Those years in Cleveland, those teams, those people impacted the NFL. It impacted a lot of football.”

Ozzie Newsome: “When I won in 2000 (with the Ravens), I owe a lot of that to Bill Belichick.”


The members of the Front office and some of the coaches of those Browns teams was just a crazy list of future success in the NFL and/or college:

Belichick
Nick Saban
Ozzie Newsome
Pat Hill
Kirk Ferentz

Assistants: Jim Schwartz (HC - Detroit Lions) and Eric Mangini (no introduction necessary)

Holladay
10-03-2012, 01:40 PM
Thank you Amnorix. Detailed as always. I'll share your analogy with her tonight.

Wup, better not. Might make her cry. You bout made me too.

R8RFAN
10-03-2012, 01:41 PM
Tell her that you thought Brian Sipe was good

Bump
10-03-2012, 01:41 PM
instead of explaining how amazed you are that you found a browns fan in your home. You should be asking the best way to approach the possibility of a Ménage à trois

Dicky McElephant
10-03-2012, 01:45 PM
I was grinning at all the piihb quips and thread sucks without pics.

Like I said, best light that I saw her was fire light and 60. I guess she'd be ok if you like grandma.

If you REALLY want, guess I could get a pic.

Post it. Omaha likes those types.

Deberg_1990
10-03-2012, 01:52 PM
The members of the Front office and some of the coaches of those Browns teams was just a crazy list of future success in the NFL and/or college:

Belichick
Nick Saban
Ozzie Newsome
Pat Hill
Kirk Ferentz

Assistants: Jim Schwartz (HC - Detroit Lions) and Eric Mangini (no introduction necessary)

Dont forget our very own Scott Pioli was there as well!

Phobia
10-03-2012, 01:53 PM
Yeah - go ahead and post some pictures. See if you can get her in the shower or something.

R8RFAN
10-03-2012, 01:55 PM
We will play the guess her muff game

Otter
10-03-2012, 01:58 PM
You guys should get drunk and cry on each others shoulder.

Bump
10-03-2012, 01:59 PM
You guys should get drunk and cry on each others shoulder.

yes, get her emotional. That often leads to sex.

Amnorix
10-03-2012, 02:01 PM
Dont forget our very own Scott Pioli was there as well!


I intentionally omitted him as I figured the consensus on here would be that he dragged down the impressiveness of the list. :D

Otter
10-03-2012, 02:02 PM
yes, get her emotional. That often leads to sex.

I was just referring to Chiefs fan and Browns fan sharing pain but I like your style. Can we raise the stakes to a threesome after a couple drinks?

R8RFAN
10-03-2012, 02:02 PM
Let her put on a strap on and drive you up like a cow stob

T-Town
10-03-2012, 03:13 PM
Browns fan's are all over Ohio. Most live in cardboard boxes but some actually have homes. One of my Browns friends actually told me after the win over the Saints that we were lucky to have a QB like Matt Cassel. LMAO

Mile High Mania
10-03-2012, 03:52 PM
Browns and Chiefs fans have a lot in common...

Marty.
Romeo.
Diehard fans of both equally hate Elway.

Chiefs last playoff win was 1993. 3-10 in Playoffs since 1990. Last trip 2010.
Browns last playoff win was 1994. 1-2 in Playoffs since 1990. Last trip was 2002.

Brady Quinn.

Blue Collar towns with amazingly strong fan bases in spite of ownership screwing with them the last few decades.

R8RFAN
10-03-2012, 03:59 PM
Browns and Chiefs fans have a lot in common...

Marty.
Romeo.
Diehard fans of both equally hate Elway.

Chiefs last playoff win was 1993. 3-10 in Playoffs since 1990. Last trip 2010.
Browns last playoff win was 1994. 1-2 in Playoffs since 1990. Last trip was 2002.

Brady Quinn.

Blue Collar towns with amazingly strong fan bases in spite of ownership screwing with them the last few decades.

You better quit fucking with these people, they are already pissed off

rockymtnchief
10-03-2012, 04:15 PM
I work with a Browns fan. He's pretty quiet on Monday mornings and hates Elway with a passion. We seem to have a lot in common.

Mile High Mania
10-03-2012, 04:41 PM
You better quit ****ing with these people, they are already pissed off

I hear ya, but I really didn't go overboard there... there are a lot of similarities. Many recall both being strong early on in the NFL... then there was a string of success in the late 80s for CLE and then in the 90s for KC.

The paths since 1993/1994 have been different - yet somewhat similar in a few areas. I think the fanbases actually have more in common than most other combos.

R8RFAN
10-03-2012, 04:47 PM
I hear ya, but I really didn't go overboard there... there are a lot of similarities. Many recall both being strong early on in the NFL... then there was a string of success in the late 80s for CLE and then in the 90s for KC.

The paths since 1993/1994 have been different - yet somewhat similar in a few areas. I think the fanbases actually have more in common than most other combos.


You know the difference between the Donks and a bucket of shit?












































the bucket

Holladay
10-03-2012, 05:20 PM
Just saw her in the daylight.....mmmmm nope. Nice gal thou. I have enough ammo/conversational material to have us both crying. THANKS A LOT:( At least it will be entertaining (mentally).

As to pics...you don't wanna know.

We will play the guess her muff game


answer = grey

htismaqe
10-03-2012, 05:39 PM
Like I said, best light that I saw her was fire light and 60. I guess she'd be ok if you like grandma.

LMAO

The phrase "if you like grandma" without the use of the word "the" or a capital "G" makes it read like you're talking about food...

"I guess lizard would taste ok if you like rotten chicken."

LMAO

Holladay
10-03-2012, 05:40 PM
you guys are all sick puppies...what else do I expect from the CP.


sigh...eating grandma's

demented

R8RFAN
10-03-2012, 05:41 PM
Grandmas need love too

Holladay
10-03-2012, 05:49 PM
True dat...just not from me.

Cut and pasted some of the responses into one doc. Hope we don't both cry.

This will be fun...she seems like a nice lady. I'll bring these opinions out, the go down and show her the Sean Hannity video of Bery '07 speech to preachers. Then show her the viral "1 sentence" opener from the lady that's running for senate in Ill.

Much fun.

Thanks for your help.


As always, CP rules

JoeyChuckles
10-03-2012, 07:20 PM
This brings up a good question. Would you rather be the Chiefs not drafting a QB early in years, or the Browns striking out 3 times so far?

Rausch
10-03-2012, 07:26 PM
sigh...eating grandma's

demented

Not if you're a grandpa...

R8RFAN
10-03-2012, 07:26 PM
The only way to win in the NFL is have a good qb + find a few great football players from the good football player pile.

This is where the quality GM comes in and this is where I am hoping Reggie learned that skill as a member of the Packers management

Time will tell

R8RFAN
10-03-2012, 07:26 PM
Not if you're a grandpa...

No Shit, Granpa gets a blue pill in him and he will lick a blister on it

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-03-2012, 07:36 PM
Grandmas need love too

Must be a Faider thing

R8RFAN
10-03-2012, 07:38 PM
Must be a Faider thing

Oh you know you would too

lcarus
10-03-2012, 07:39 PM
The Browns have an amazing fan base. I think they have the largest fan club in the USA.

Lucky bastards got a new owner this year too.

I kinda like the Browns. I empathize with them in a way I guess. We're both sort of the red-headed stepchildren of the NFL in the eyes of the national media. I also don't think their uniforms are terrible like a lot of people. It takes balls to wear shit brown.

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-03-2012, 07:41 PM
Oh you know you would too

Not 60. Guess for a Faider it's an upgrade from tossin some inmates salad with syrup though :p

R8RFAN
10-03-2012, 07:43 PM
Not 60. Guess for a Faider it's an upgrade from tossin some inmates salad with syrup though :p


If she was hot and nobody would find out and you were single.... You would

MahiMike
10-03-2012, 08:03 PM
Did you watch 'A Football Life' together and point at Marty?