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scho63
10-04-2012, 05:33 AM
The biggest thing I took away from last night's debate was how tired and worn out Obama seemed. Over the last few months he seems lackluster, tired, and just maybe he really is starting to dislike or is worn out after everything he has dealt with over the last 4 years. It is a tough job.....

He never really had to work this hard and for such an extended period in his life and it seems to be taking a real toll on him. All Presidents age in office but Obama seems to be going downhill fast.

He really likes a light work load, being on TV with Oprah, Dave Letterman, and the ladies of the view, playing golf and basketball, hanging with Beyonce Jay Z and the celebs, and his family time and vacations.

Maybe he has decided that winning a second term isn't what it will be cracked up to be and his drive and desire is gone......

You can only be the first Black president just once...(although he really is bi-racial and everyone seems to forget he is 50% white)

qabbaan
10-04-2012, 05:44 AM
He's too small for the office.

blaise
10-04-2012, 05:49 AM
Sometimes I do think he'd rather be doing a TV, lecture and book circuit. Not that I blame him. I'm sure it's a lot more fun doing those things than being President.

La literatura
10-04-2012, 06:15 AM
Attributed to Martin van Buren:

"As to the Presidency, the two happiest days of my life were those of my entrance upon the office and my surrender of it."

Guru
10-04-2012, 06:17 AM
They all look worn after 4 years in office.

Direckshun
10-04-2012, 06:21 AM
They all look worn after 4 years in office.

Yeah.

Obama looks plenty energetic in most forums. Just, last night, he sure looked underprepared and like he'd rather be somewhere else.

KC-TBB
10-04-2012, 06:25 AM
He looked like Cassel when the pocket is colapsing...ARGGGHHHH

HonestChieffan
10-04-2012, 06:37 AM
Yeah.

Obama looks plenty energetic in most forums. Just, last night, he sure looked underprepared and like he'd rather be somewhere else.

Hopefully he gets his wish

BoneKrusher
10-04-2012, 06:38 AM
He looked like Cassel when the pocket is colapsing...ARGGGHHHH

yeah he threw a pick six last night.

Iowanian
10-04-2012, 07:28 AM
You know who Obama reminded me of last night?

He reminded me of the kid in HS who was called out to a fight, standing by his friends and knew he was going to get his ass kicked.

Obama looked more pale than Romney last night. Maybe it was bad Sushi or something.


And he DID get his ass kicked.

King_Chief_Fan
10-04-2012, 07:30 AM
I sure hope he doesn't.

mikey23545
10-04-2012, 07:33 AM
Yeah.

Obama looks plenty energetic in most forums. Just, last night, he sure looked underprepared and like he'd rather be somewhere else.

He ages fast on his days without a teleprompter.

CoMoChief
10-04-2012, 07:36 AM
The system has chosen him as a lame duck president.

He's the fallout guy...so Romney comes in as a savior just like Obama did in 2008 when people were fed up w/ Bush and the republican party.

It's going to be the same shit over and over again.....Romney will further ruin this country and then another democrat will come in as the savior and people will vote for them.

It's a stupid flawed 2-party system....they're both one of the same bought and paid for by the big banks. Until people realize that they're is no hope for this country to get back on it's feet.

scho63
10-04-2012, 07:39 AM
The system has chosen him as a lame duck president.

He's the fallout guy...so Romney comes in as a savior just like Obama did in 2008 when people were fed up w/ Bush and the republican party.

It's going to be the same shit over and over again.....Romney will further ruin this country and then another democrat will come in as the savior and people will vote for them.

It's a stupid flawed 2-party system....they're both one of the same bought and paid for by the big banks. Until people realize that they're is no hope for this country to get back on it's feet.

I really like your sense of optimism........;)

InChiefsHell
10-04-2012, 07:44 AM
Obama just seemed unable to debate. I believe that is because he has never been challenged in 4 years. I mean, he's all over the TV but fields softball questions from fawning fans. He's had like 4 press conferences during his presidency, but he's very visible so I don't think people realize how little substance we actually get from the man. Then last night Romney calmly and respectfully kicked his ass all over the stage, and we all saw that the Emperor has no clothes.

htismaqe
10-04-2012, 07:56 AM
The system has chosen him as a lame duck president.

He's the fallout guy...so Romney comes in as a savior just like Obama did in 2008 when people were fed up w/ Bush and the republican party.

It's going to be the same shit over and over again.....Romney will further ruin this country and then another democrat will come in as the savior and people will vote for them.

It's a stupid flawed 2-party system....they're both one of the same bought and paid for by the big banks. Until people realize that they're is no hope for this country to get back on it's feet.

:bravo:

Now I need to go take a shower...

FishingRod
10-04-2012, 08:16 AM
The system has chosen him as a lame duck president.

He's the fallout guy...so Romney comes in as a savior just like Obama did in 2008 when people were fed up w/ Bush and the republican party.

It's going to be the same shit over and over again.....Romney will further ruin this country and then another democrat will come in as the savior and people will vote for them.

It's a stupid flawed 2-party system....they're both one of the same bought and paid for by the big banks. Until people realize that they're is no hope for this country to get back on it's feet.

I wish I didnít agree with this, but I do. I would just point to more than the banks being the problem.

stonedstooge
10-04-2012, 08:19 AM
I think he was worried about it being anniversary night and what Moochell was going to expect of him when he climbed between the sheets

CoMoChief
10-04-2012, 09:52 AM
I wish I didnít agree with this, but I do. I would just point to more than the banks being the problem.

There's more problems than just the banks....but they're the root of the problem.

The federal reserve is a private banking institution that's NEVER been audited. They control our money supply and currency value. That's some scary shit....another words, they're the most powerful organization in the country.

tooge
10-04-2012, 09:55 AM
he's looking forward to relaxing with his hookah, reading the Koran, chatting socialism on bulletin boards.

InChiefsHell
10-04-2012, 09:59 AM
The federal reserve is a private banking institution that's NEVER been audited. They control our money supply and currency value. That's some scary shit....another words, they're the most powerful organization in the world.

FYP

fan4ever
10-04-2012, 10:04 AM
Obama loves being President...the adoring crowds, hobbknobbing with Hollywood, getting his ass kissed at every turn . . . the responsibility, not so much.

What Romney did to Obama last night reminded me of the first Hollyfield/Tyson fight...Tyson was the Champ and Hollyfield came in, un-impressed, and treated Tyson like the punk-ass, one-dimensional fighter he was.

DementedLogic
10-04-2012, 10:33 AM
The man has never had a real job in his life, of course its taking its toll on him.

fan4ever
10-04-2012, 02:15 PM
I think he was worried about it being anniversary night and what Moochell was going to expect of him when he climbed between the sheets

Only half of him was afraid of "going down" if you know what I mean ;)

vailpass
10-04-2012, 02:22 PM
How do you get worn out by doing nothing for four years?

KC Dan
10-04-2012, 02:24 PM
How do you get worn out by doing nothing for four years?I travel for work a lot and it is tiring. I would guess after four years of traveling for campaign events, fund raisers and vacations have plain tuckered him out

vailpass
10-04-2012, 02:26 PM
I travel for work a lot and it is tiring. I would guess after four years of traveling for campaign events, fund raisers and vacations have plain tuckered him out

Good point. Finding different ways at bedtime to dodge that moose he married is probably taxing as well.

KC Dan
10-04-2012, 02:27 PM
Good point. Finding different ways at bedtime to dodge that moose he married is probably taxing as well.
Sometimes you just aren't right

vailpass
10-04-2012, 02:30 PM
Sometimes you just aren't right

Mousse?

Munson
10-04-2012, 02:39 PM
He loves hanging with celebrities, going on talk shows where they kiss his ass, enjoys the media that worships him, and having a fleet of aircraft that will take him anywhere in the world on the taxpayer's dime.

He can't stand doing any real, actual work. And he doesn't like anybody challenging him, especially when it comes to his record in office.

vailpass
10-04-2012, 02:47 PM
He loves hanging with celebrities, going on talk shows where they kiss his ass, enjoys the media that worships him, and having a fleet of aircraft that will take him anywhere in the world on the taxpayer's dime.

He can't stand doing any real, actual work. And he doesn't like anybody challenging him, especially when it comes to his record in office.

One of the hallmarks of narcissism.

TEX
10-04-2012, 02:59 PM
He's never really been pushed by the media. He was last night by Romney. He was rattled. No teleprompter - no anwers. He was just a guy with a community organizer background going up against a seasoned veteran politician that had answers. Who, by the way, is becoming very comfortable in front of the camera. Obama doesn't need to be President anymore - he's had his shot and failed. Let a guy with actual governing and business experience have a shot. That's what last night showed me.

vailpass
10-04-2012, 03:21 PM
He's never really been pushed by the media. He was last night by Romney. He was rattled. No teleprompter - no anwers. He was just a guy with a community organizer background going up against a seasoned veteran politician that had answers. Who, by the way, is becoming very comfortable in front of the camera. Obama doesn't need to be President anymore - he's had his shot and failed. Let a guy with actual governing and business experience have a shot. That's what last night showed me.

Yep. Romney would eat obama alive in the corporate world, at the negotiating table, in a strategic planning session in the boardroom, anywhere.
obama's empty suit was on full display for the world to see last night. He couldn't even look Romney in the eye, kept his eyes down like the beat dog he was. That this is the kind of "leader" in our White House should give everyone great concern.

Pawnmower
10-04-2012, 03:29 PM
They all look worn after 4 years in office.

Yep...

TEX
10-04-2012, 03:32 PM
Yep. Romney would eat obama alive in the corporate world, at the negotiating table, in a strategic planning session in the boardroom, anywhere.
obama's empty suit was on full display for the world to see last night. He couldn't even look Romney in the eye, kept his eyes down like the beat dog he was. That this is the kind of "leader" in our White House should give everyone great concern.

You're right. This election is pretty darn easy for me anyway. The # 1 problem in the country is the economy in my book. Who is better at fixing it? IMHO, Romney by far. It isn't even close. Last night anyone listening with an open mind would get the same answer. Look, Romney might be a putz, BUT I'd much rather have him in charge of the economy than Obama. He needs to get the country back on track, because what Obama is doing is not working. Plain and simple.

stevieray
10-04-2012, 03:51 PM
You're right. This election is pretty darn easy for me anyway. The # 1 problem in the country is the economy in my book. Who is better at fixing it? IMHO, Romney by far. It isn't even close. Last night anyone listening with an open mind would get the same answer. Look, Romney might be a putz, BUT I'd much rather have him in charge of the economy than Obama. He needs to get the country back on track, because what Obama is doing is not working. Plain and simple.God Damn America never intended to fix the economy.

TEX
10-04-2012, 03:53 PM
God Damn America never intended to fix the economy.

You just may be right...

stevieray
10-04-2012, 03:58 PM
You just may be right...

btw, happy belated..can you believe we made it? lol

TEX
10-04-2012, 04:00 PM
btw, happy belated..can you believe we made it? lol

Yeah - I KNOW. Man -oh-man we're OLD!

Chiefspants
10-04-2012, 04:11 PM
Meh, Reagan looked unprepared, tired and uninspired when he got destroyed in the 84' debates. ***kickings happen, especially to incumbents.

Mrs. Loopner
10-04-2012, 04:22 PM
I'm a newbie so don't hang me out to dry just yet but, I thought this would be a fitting first post.
And all I have to say is, Really, really lame excuse.

"Gore blames Denver altitude for Obama's debate performance"
Published October 04, 2012
FoxNewsdotcom
It was the altitude. Yeah, that's it.
As liberal pundits cringed Wednesday night over President Obama's debate performance, Al Gore leapt to his defense with a curious explanation.
If Obama seemed like he had his head in the clouds, the former VP reasoned, perhaps it was because he was having trouble adjusting to the Mile-High City.
"I'm going to say something controversial here," Gore said on Current TV, the channel he helped found. "Obama arrived in Denver at 2 p.m. today, just a few hours before the debate started. Romney did his debate prep in Denver. When you go to 5,000 feet, and you only have a few hours to adjust, I don't know ..."
Gore trailed off with a chuckle, but his fellow co-hosts chimed in with agreement.
"Exactly," one of them said off-screen.
Co-host Cenk Uygur noted how when he came from Los Angeles, "You know what I did? I drank two cups of coffee before coming out here."
Another guest added: "It's really different. The first time I ever did stand up in Denver I had the same exact effect. I flew in that day and when your lungs aren't acclimated to that kind of air, yeah it makes you drawn. It makes you off. The president had an off-night."
Other Obama supporters weren't quite so willing to give the president a pass.
"I can't believe i'm saying this, but Obama looks like he DOES need a teleprompter," comedian and Obama supporter Bill Maher tweeted.

stevieray
10-04-2012, 04:25 PM
I'm a newbie so don't hang me out to dry just yet but, I thought this would be a fitting first post.
And all I have to say is, Really, really lame excuse.

"Gore blames Denver altitude for Obama's debate performance"
Published October 04, 2012
FoxNewsdotcom
It was the altitude. Yeah, that's it.
As liberal pundits cringed Wednesday night over President Obama's debate performance, Al Gore leapt to his defense with a curious explanation.
If Obama seemed like he had his head in the clouds, the former VP reasoned, perhaps it was because he was having trouble adjusting to the Mile-High City.
"I'm going to say something controversial here," Gore said on Current TV, the channel he helped found. "Obama arrived in Denver at 2 p.m. today, just a few hours before the debate started. Romney did his debate prep in Denver. When you go to 5,000 feet, and you only have a few hours to adjust, I don't know ..."
Gore trailed off with a chuckle, but his fellow co-hosts chimed in with agreement.
"Exactly," one of them said off-screen.
Co-host Cenk Uygur noted how when he came from Los Angeles, "You know what I did? I drank two cups of coffee before coming out here."
Another guest added: "It's really different. The first time I ever did stand up in Denver I had the same exact effect. I flew in that day and when your lungs aren't acclimated to that kind of air, yeah it makes you drawn. It makes you off. The president had an off-night."
Other Obama supporters weren't quite so willing to give the president a pass.
"I can't believe i'm saying this, but Obama looks like he DOES need a teleprompter," comedian and Obama supporter Bill Maher tweeted.

Al Gore: it was climate change!!!....

Munson
10-04-2012, 04:30 PM
I'm a newbie so don't hang me out to dry just yet but, I thought this would be a fitting first post.
And all I have to say is, Really, really lame excuse.

"Gore blames Denver altitude for Obama's debate performance"
Published October 04, 2012
FoxNewsdotcom
It was the altitude. Yeah, that's it.
As liberal pundits cringed Wednesday night over President Obama's debate performance, Al Gore leapt to his defense with a curious explanation.
If Obama seemed like he had his head in the clouds, the former VP reasoned, perhaps it was because he was having trouble adjusting to the Mile-High City.
"I'm going to say something controversial here," Gore said on Current TV, the channel he helped found. "Obama arrived in Denver at 2 p.m. today, just a few hours before the debate started. Romney did his debate prep in Denver. When you go to 5,000 feet, and you only have a few hours to adjust, I don't know ..."
Gore trailed off with a chuckle, but his fellow co-hosts chimed in with agreement.
"Exactly," one of them said off-screen.
Co-host Cenk Uygur noted how when he came from Los Angeles, "You know what I did? I drank two cups of coffee before coming out here."
Another guest added: "It's really different. The first time I ever did stand up in Denver I had the same exact effect. I flew in that day and when your lungs aren't acclimated to that kind of air, yeah it makes you drawn. It makes you off. The president had an off-night."
Other Obama supporters weren't quite so willing to give the president a pass.
"I can't believe i'm saying this, but Obama looks like he DOES need a teleprompter," comedian and Obama supporter Bill Maher tweeted.

Your first post is in DC, showing how Al Gore is a dumbass?

I like it. :thumb:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrasv3Ghae1r1wfdzo1_500.gif

KCTitus
10-04-2012, 04:37 PM
I'm a newbie so don't hang me out to dry just yet but, I thought this would be a fitting first post.
And all I have to say is, Really, really lame excuse...

Welcome...but that's all they got. Give him a break...when their world view is destroyed, they refuse to do any introspection, it has to be something...the weather, the moderator, the lights, the fans, the podium, lack of teleprompter...etc.

mlyonsd
10-04-2012, 04:40 PM
Welcome...but that's all they got. Give him a break...when their world view is destroyed, they refuse to do any introspection, it has to be something...the weather, the moderator, the lights, the fans, the podium, lack of teleprompter...etc.
...the opponent tricking them by not being himself.

KCTitus
10-04-2012, 04:46 PM
...the opponent tricking them by not being himself.

Yeah, that's weird and seems to be the talking points from Obama today. I guess there's a point in there somewhere, but it's delusional. There are two Romney's...the one Obama claims and the one that was actually in front of him.

So what I guess Obama is trying to tell people is 'dont believe what he actually said, believe I what I say he is...' That's insane.

mlyonsd
10-04-2012, 04:50 PM
Yeah, that's weird and seems to be the talking points from Obama today. I guess there's a point in there somewhere, but it's delusional. There are two Romney's...the one Obama claims and the one that was actually in front of him.

So what I guess Obama is trying to tell people is 'dont believe what he actually said, believe I what I say he is...' That's insane.
Obama spent all summer building Romney into something they can attack. When it doesn't work out when they're face to face I suppose it might still work at rallies.

KCTitus
10-04-2012, 05:02 PM
Obama spent all summer building Romney into something they can attack. When it doesn't work out when they're face to face I suppose it might still work at rallies.

If Obama does anything well, it's setting up straw men and knocking them down. Many of his key points are about things that no one is even talking about.

A good example is raising taxes on the middle class...that's absurd on its face. If any taxes are getting raised on the middle class it's his policies. Extending the tax rates from the Bush years, isnt raising tax rates, it's leaving the tax rate that have been in place for 12 years. Allowing that to expire and going back to the old rates, DOES increase the rates on the middle class, and Romney wants to leave them where they are. Why would anyone want to increase taxes during a recession...as Obama himself stated in 2010.

RedNeckRaider
10-04-2012, 05:40 PM
I'm a newbie so don't hang me out to dry just yet but, I thought this would be a fitting first post.
And all I have to say is, Really, really lame excuse.

"Gore blames Denver altitude for Obama's debate performance"
Published October 04, 2012
FoxNewsdotcom
It was the altitude. Yeah, that's it.
As liberal pundits cringed Wednesday night over President Obama's debate performance, Al Gore leapt to his defense with a curious explanation.
If Obama seemed like he had his head in the clouds, the former VP reasoned, perhaps it was because he was having trouble adjusting to the Mile-High City.
"I'm going to say something controversial here," Gore said on Current TV, the channel he helped found. "Obama arrived in Denver at 2 p.m. today, just a few hours before the debate started. Romney did his debate prep in Denver. When you go to 5,000 feet, and you only have a few hours to adjust, I don't know ..."
Gore trailed off with a chuckle, but his fellow co-hosts chimed in with agreement.
"Exactly," one of them said off-screen.
Co-host Cenk Uygur noted how when he came from Los Angeles, "You know what I did? I drank two cups of coffee before coming out here."
Another guest added: "It's really different. The first time I ever did stand up in Denver I had the same exact effect. I flew in that day and when your lungs aren't acclimated to that kind of air, yeah it makes you drawn. It makes you off. The president had an off-night."
Other Obama supporters weren't quite so willing to give the president a pass.
"I can't believe i'm saying this, but Obama looks like he DOES need a teleprompter," comedian and Obama supporter Bill Maher tweeted.

That debate could have been held in my driveway or in an oxygen chamber, the result would have been the same. This phony embarrassment got his shitbag ass kicked by a weak opponent. I have been dreading casting a vote for Romney. After seeing the two men face off it will be much easier. Anyone who still clings to hope and change and supports the worst president in our history is either a loyal leftwing voter for whoever is the democrat or an idiot...at this point idiot describes both adequately~

petegz28
10-04-2012, 05:51 PM
Obama just seemed unable to debate. I believe that is because he has never been challenged in 4 years. I mean, he's all over the TV but fields softball questions from fawning fans. He's had like 4 press conferences during his presidency, but he's very visible so I don't think people realize how little substance we actually get from the man. Then last night Romney calmly and respectfully kicked his ass all over the stage, and we all saw that the Emperor has no clothes.

He is really good and talking shit when it's just him and a crowd of supportive media. I mean let's look at the facts; the majority of the media has made excuse after excuse for him and anyone who opposes him for any reason is instantly labled a racist, rich guy, that doesn't care about anyone else.

RedNeckRaider
10-04-2012, 05:56 PM
He is really good and talking shit when it's just him and a crowd of supportive media. I mean let's look at the facts; the majority of the media has made excuse after excuse for him and anyone who opposes him for any reason is instantly labled a racist, rich guy, that doesn't care about anyone else.

Ok you got me...I hate him because he is a buffoon. Is buffoon a race? If it is I am a racist against buffoons~

Saul Good
10-04-2012, 07:25 PM
Yeah, that's weird and seems to be the talking points from Obama today. I guess there's a point in there somewhere, but it's delusional. There are two Romney's...the one Obama claims and the one that was actually in front of him.

So what I guess Obama is trying to tell people is 'dont believe what he actually said, believe I what I say he is...' That's insane.

Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?

King_Chief_Fan
10-05-2012, 11:49 AM
Ok you got me...I hate him because he is a buffoon. Is buffoon a race? If it is I am a racist against buffoons~

If raiders are a race
and buffoons are a race

raiders are buffoons

Fish
10-05-2012, 11:53 AM
Yeah, I'm sure Obama is just "Mehh. Don't matter. Just the presidency...." That sounds likely...

J Diddy
10-05-2012, 01:40 PM
If raiders are a race
and buffoons are a race

raiders are buffoons

My logic teacher cries.

aaa-2 syllogisms aren't valid