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mlyonsd
10-12-2012, 12:20 PM
White House moves to insulate Biden, Obama on Libya security question

Oct 12, 2012 1:59 PM EDT

The White House scrambled Friday to explain Vice President Biden's confusing statement that "we weren't told" of requests for more diplomatic security in Libya, claiming he was referring only to "himself" and President Obama.

Biden, during Thursday's debate, had made the controversial statement in response to criticism from Paul Ryan about the protection of diplomatic posts in Libya in the run-up to the Sept. 11 terror attack.

Moderator Martha Raddatz pressed him: "And they wanted more security there."

But Biden responded: "Well, we weren't told they wanted more security there. We did not know they wanted more security again."

The comment drew swift rebukes from Republicans who pointed out that State Department officials just one day earlier had acknowledged they knew about, and turned down, requests for more security. Ryan, minutes later in the debate, corrected the vice president, saying "there were requests for extra security; those requests were not honored."

But White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Biden "wasn't talking about the administration writ large," just the White House.

"He was speaking directly for himself and for the president. He meant the White House," Carney said. He claimed it was "very clear" in context, while continuing to accuse Republicans of twisting the tragedy into a "political attack."

In doing so, Carney not only came to the defense of Biden, but used his clarification to effectively insulate the White House from questions about the decision-making process. While refusing to say whether Obama and Biden were ever briefed on the security requests in Benghazi, Carney made clear that decisions on personnel were handled below them, at the State Department level.

"These kinds of issues are handled in the State Department," he said.

"What I'm saying is that matters of security personnel are appropriately discussed and decided upon at the State Department."

Biden, though, was not explicit Thursday in saying he was only talking about his and Obama's personal knowledge of the security requests.

Mitt Romney, at a campaign rally Friday afternoon in Virginia, still asserted that Biden had "directly contradicted" State Department testimony.

"He's doubling down on denial, and we need to understand exactly what happened," Romney said.

In addition to raising eyebrows over that comment, the vice president went a step further Thursday and threw the intelligence community under the bus -- putting the blame squarely on their shoulders for the faulty narrative, pushed for more than a week by the administration, that the attack was a protest spun out of control.

"That was exactly what we were told by the intelligence community. The intelligence community told us that. As they learned more facts about exactly what happened, they changed their assessment," Biden said.

State Department officials who testified Wednesday suggested as well that when U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice claimed the Sunday after the attack that protests over an anti-Islam film were to blame, she was merely basing her comments on the intelligence at the time.

However, lawmakers by that point had been publicly challenging the notion that the protests were a factor. And sources have since confirmed that some in the intelligence community were pointing to terrorism within 24 hours of the attack.
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HonestChieffan
10-12-2012, 12:25 PM
Hillary is gonna get run over

Radar Chief
10-12-2012, 12:25 PM
*Guffaw* /Biden

qabbaan
10-12-2012, 01:04 PM
It seemed like he was just making that up on the spot.

blaise
10-12-2012, 01:05 PM
um, George Bush!

Chief Faithful
10-12-2012, 01:06 PM
Remember this was Ryan's fault for proposing to cut a budget that never existed.

So the intelligence community knew within 24 hours this was a terrorist attack.

HonestChieffan
10-12-2012, 01:18 PM
Obama doing everything he can to compartmentalize this massive fuckup. No way will the buck stop with him

mikey23545
10-12-2012, 02:56 PM
Thank goodness we only have a few more weeks of these idiots in the White House.

headsnap
10-12-2012, 03:12 PM
The White House scrambled Friday to explain Vice President Biden's confusing statement that "we weren't told" of requests for more diplomatic security in Libya, claiming he was referring only to "himself" and President Obama.

Maybe, just maybe, Barry might have known about it if he attended the intelligence briefings!!!:doh!:

stevieray
10-12-2012, 04:54 PM
Hannity! Beck! Rush! Tea Party! rwnj's!

/Kotter

petegz28
10-12-2012, 04:55 PM
Obama: Good morning, everyone. I am President Barrack Obama

Biden: And I am Vice President Joe Biden

Obama & Biden in unison: And we don't know shit!

Munson
10-12-2012, 05:21 PM
They're playing stupid. And it looks like they're throwing Hillary under the bus.

stonedstooge
10-12-2012, 05:25 PM
Concerning Hillary--"It's not nice to fool Mother Nature" Older farts will remember

qabbaan
10-12-2012, 05:43 PM
Don't discount the possibility of Clinton, angling for 2016, dealing some sort of damage to the Clown in Chief in the final weeks in return for him selling the state dept out for his campaign.

LiveSteam
10-12-2012, 06:33 PM
Hillary is gonna get run over

& then Obama disappears ?

patteeu
10-13-2012, 07:39 AM
So their argument is that their administration is incompetent and dysfunctional rather than dishonest? I think the answer is closer to all of the above.

And Susan Wright is from the State Department so Jay Carney's attempt to save the VP doesn't even add up.

LiveSteam
10-13-2012, 09:07 AM
Barry blaming the state department. LOL This should get real interesting. The Clintons VS Barry & his lil bastards.

qabbaan
10-13-2012, 10:49 AM
So their argument is that their administration is incompetent and dysfunctional rather than dishonest? I think the answer is closer to all of the above.

And Susan Wright is from the State Department so Jay Carney's attempt to save the VP doesn't even add up.

Their only hope at this point is stonewalling until after the election, at which point it doesn't matter if the public realizes they were lying or not, and nor would they care.

HonestChieffan
10-13-2012, 01:07 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rYknkJlFFFs/UHlbU11no2I/AAAAAAABjKM/Bed8xOZsLQY/s400/theo5.jpg

Chiefshrink
10-13-2012, 09:14 PM
Don't discount the possibility of Clinton, angling for 2016, dealing some sort of damage to the Clown in Chief in the final weeks in return for him selling the state dept out for his campaign.

;)