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J Diddy
10-14-2012, 06:51 PM
Is it legal to tape it, number and name showing, to the front of your businesses cash register?

Baconeater
10-14-2012, 06:55 PM
As long as it's not mine.

J Diddy
10-14-2012, 06:56 PM
It was mine. Just found out about it tonight. Business is closed tonight, obviously, but the last time I was in there was 3 weeks ago.

Baconeater
10-14-2012, 06:59 PM
Good lord.

Mr. Plow
10-14-2012, 07:23 PM
Yeesh. I'd be checking my credit pretty regularly.

lewdog
10-14-2012, 07:23 PM
Get a fraud alert going man. Thank is scary!

J Diddy
10-14-2012, 07:27 PM
Yeesh. I'd be checking my credit pretty regularly.

I plan on it. I am trying to figure out what steps I need to take, in case of legal implications, tomorrow when I go get it.

ClevelandBronco
10-14-2012, 07:28 PM
Was Obama using it?

Mr. Plow
10-14-2012, 07:31 PM
I plan on it. I am trying to figure out what steps I need to take, in case of legal implications, tomorrow when I go get it.

I won't comment on the legality of it because I really don't know, but it might be worth checking what you are able to do if you find it has some sort of negative affect on you or your credit.

Old Dog
10-14-2012, 07:34 PM
Damn, I read this four times and wondered WTF you were talking about. Am I the only one that didn't read "Let's say?

I don't know how it would be illegal for someone to do it, but I would think they would tape a sign or somethign with your name on it saying "Please contact management" or something such as that.

Fire Me Boy!
10-14-2012, 07:40 PM
Damn, I read this four times and wondered WTF you were talking about. Am I the only one that didn't read "Let's say?

I don't know how it would be illegal for someone to do it, but I would think they would tape a sign or somethign with your name on it saying "Please contact management" or something such as that.

It's probably not against the law, but if you have any negative impact on your credit, it might be criminally negligent.

chasedude
10-14-2012, 07:45 PM
Last time I went in to get a new one at the SS office they told me there's a lifetime limit of 3 times which copies can be made. :spock:

Of course the clerk couldn't give me a reason, so I have none to tell.

jspchief
10-14-2012, 07:48 PM
It's probably not against the law, but if you have any negative impact on your credit, it might be criminally negligent.

Criminally? No. rofl

You might have a civil claim in small claims to cover costs incurred for identity theft.

Stupid on the part of the business owner, but the true negligence is losing the SS card in the first place. I wouldn't get your hopes up.

FAX
10-14-2012, 08:12 PM
I don't know about the legality ... there may very well be a problem there.

If it had been my SS Card, though, that merchant had better be praying to God that I didn't suffer any problems with my credit either now or in the future. I would be on his dumb ass like Romeo on an egg roll. That was a very stupid move on his part.

FAX

Fire Me Boy!
10-14-2012, 08:32 PM
Criminally? No. rofl

You might have a civil claim in small claims to cover costs incurred for identity theft.

Stupid on the part of the business owner, but the true negligence is losing the SS card in the first place. I wouldn't get your hopes up.

Didn't intend to say criminal. But small claims max amount in MO is like $6K or something. Would be pretty easy to exceed small claims.

J Diddy
10-14-2012, 08:59 PM
I don't know about the legality ... there may very well be a problem there.

If it had been my SS Card, though, that merchant had better be praying to God that I didn't suffer any problems with my credit either now or in the future. I would be on his dumb ass like Romeo on an egg roll. That was a very stupid move on his part.

FAX

I've decided first thing in the morning I'm calling the SSA and see what they think. Either way, when I go in there, I'm taking a photo of it taped up.

ClevelandBronco
10-14-2012, 09:39 PM
I've decided first thing in the morning I'm calling the SSA and see what they think. Either way, when I go in there, I'm taking a photo of it taped up.

Good idea. Be sure to post it here just for backup.

cabletech94
10-14-2012, 10:30 PM
so what fine business am i going to avoid from now on diddy?

Bump
10-14-2012, 10:56 PM
I've decided first thing in the morning I'm calling the SSA and see what they think. Either way, when I go in there, I'm taking a photo of it taped up.

so wait, you lost your SS card at a store and then taped it to the cash register? lol, WUT?

KILLER_CLOWN
10-14-2012, 10:58 PM
Was Obama using it?

ROFL beat me to it!

3rd&48ers
10-15-2012, 04:58 AM
I doubt it's against the law, I suggest you go to www.annualcreditreport.com (free) and see if any accounts have been opened.

Don't be surprised if an Illegal is using your SS#

threebag02
10-15-2012, 05:52 AM
It's probably not against the law, but if you have any negative impact on your credit, it might be criminally negligent.

You couldn't prove they did anything wrong. The burden of proof is on you.

theelusiveeightrop
10-15-2012, 06:28 AM
Social Security. A pipe dream for those who still believe in something.

LiveSteam
10-15-2012, 11:48 AM
Social Security. A pipe dream for those who still believe in something.

I haven't paid a dime into SS for the last 15 years :thumb:

KC native
10-15-2012, 12:29 PM
Why the fuck were you carrying your SS card with you? Leave that shit in a safe at home. If you're not filling out employment shit or other stuff where you need to see it that day, you shouldn't carry it.

Valiant
10-15-2012, 12:44 PM
Does this place employ illegals or foreigners? If so, it is mostly your fault.

If your report comes back clean, go buy a lotto ticket. That sucks to the nth degree.

kysirsoze
10-15-2012, 01:18 PM
You couldn't prove they did anything wrong. The burden of proof is on you.

Wel,l he got a picture of it taped to the register.

3rd&48ers
10-15-2012, 01:44 PM
Wel,l he got a picture of it taped to the register.

So, you have to prove that is how your number was stolen and by whom, what they did with it and how much you are out as a result.

Caseyguyrr
10-15-2012, 01:54 PM
Was Obama using it?

hardy har

alnorth
10-15-2012, 02:13 PM
It is legal, in that it is not a crime.

However, that business could be liable if you suffer damages due to this act, and could be sued. May or may not be able to sue the owner or person responsible individually as well as the business.

You have to incur actual damage, you cant just walk into court and say "I'm afraid my identity may be stolen", they'll tell you to come back when something actually happens.

Until then, you could still reasonably make the argument that you now need to pay for a fraud alert and credit monitoring for years, and you could probably sue for the cost and time of doing that.

J Diddy
10-15-2012, 02:15 PM
So today went and retrieved it. Guy acted like he did me a favor. I bit my tongue, because he meant no harm, then I proceeded to explain to the older fellow just what can be done with having just that bit of information. He still didn't get it. Then I spent an hour on the phone with the SSA, next the police department to file a informational report, next the federal trade commision and next all 3 credit bureaus.

For the record, I know it shouldn't have been in my wallet, but I pulled it out of the lockbox when I was job hunting and forgot about it. The police stated that their primary concern was an illegal using it for employment. A stupid mistake on my part that has me very much on edge.

threebag02
10-15-2012, 03:50 PM
Get Lifelock or what ever that shit is

J Diddy
10-15-2012, 04:11 PM
Get Lifelock or what ever that shit is

No thanks. All I remember about lifelock is the owner putting his social security number up to show his faith and then he got burnt. I'll just sign up for some regular credit reports and review them.

3rd&48ers
10-15-2012, 04:24 PM
Naa just freeze your credit.... Google it