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CoMoChief
10-14-2012, 09:00 PM
At least in recent memory...I'm not old enough to remember the seasons of the 70's and 80's.

And it may be too early to tell since there's almost 2/3 of the season left to play.

But I can't remember a Chiefs season where they come into the season with such high hopes with the return of playmakers that had season ending injuries in 2011 and what seemed to be at the time a more stable coaching staff.

But then to completely shit the bed in epic proportions.

Getting blown out in just about every game we've played, having not led in a game at any point in the season, and on pace to smash the NFL record for most committed turnovers in a single season.

I don't think I've ever had so much hope for a team going into a season and for it to completely backfire. I mean I'm not sure it can get any worse at this point, and may be the reason why I didn't really care at all about the game today.

Maybe it's just getting to that point where the Chiefs are making me not care anymore.

Deberg_1990
10-14-2012, 09:01 PM
2008 was pretty awful.

Strongside
10-14-2012, 09:02 PM
Every season is the worst season ever. This football team is fucking Groundhog Day starring Bill Murray as Scott Pioli.

MatriculatingHank
10-14-2012, 09:02 PM
Cheer up. It's gonna get worse...

Reerun_KC
10-14-2012, 09:03 PM
Ranks up there with.everyone of Hermans seasons.

CoMoChief
10-14-2012, 09:03 PM
2008 was pretty awful.

True but there wasn't as much hype going into that season like there was going into this season.

I mean doesn't that make matters worse?

Demonpenz
10-14-2012, 09:06 PM
Bowe and Baldwin can do some things. Seems like there were games with Chambers and Smoosh Parker that were worse

Chiefnj2
10-14-2012, 09:07 PM
Who would have thought that fans would miss Muir calling the offense?

New World Order
10-14-2012, 09:07 PM
This season is worse than 08 because of the effort. I remember Herm's team that year atleast played hard, these guys just la de frickn da up and down the field

cdcox
10-14-2012, 09:07 PM
Seriously, with our QB situation, I didn't have any hopes for post season success. Going into the season I was just marking time. This season is one of the best possible outcomes, because I lost all confidence in Pioli between his doubling down on Cassel and wagering his career on RAC. The malpractice has been exposed, and that is a good thing.

Count Zarth
10-14-2012, 09:07 PM
Yes.

We had silly expectations that are being completely and hopelessly shorted.

This team is worse than even I had anticipated.

siberian khatru
10-14-2012, 09:08 PM
At least these days you have the Internet where you can commiserate with fellow fans and engage in gallows humor. It can kind of keep you interested, to see how nuts everyone goes.

In the 70s and 80s, it was boring because you just had the bad football.

Bugeater
10-14-2012, 09:08 PM
Only if everyone keeps their jobs.

Count Zarth
10-14-2012, 09:08 PM
2008 was pretty awful.

Thigpen made it fun. LMAO

Deberg_1990
10-14-2012, 09:09 PM
True but there wasn't as much hype going into that season like there was going into this season.

I mean doesn't that make matters worse?

I guess. To be honest, I thought they would be better but knew they wouldnt be all that great because of Crennel. I thought Cassel would play better. Good thing I'm not a GM.

cdcox
10-14-2012, 09:10 PM
Thigpen made it fun. LMAO

I have never seen "pointless" spelled that way before.

Brock
10-14-2012, 09:10 PM
Nothing a franchise QB, a new GM, and a new coach won't fix.

Bewbies
10-14-2012, 09:12 PM
2008 we looked at our team and knew we sucked. This year people looked at our roster and saw a playoff team...well, and a festering anal wart at QB.

Deberg_1990
10-14-2012, 09:13 PM
At least these days you have the Internet where you can commiserate with fellow fans and engage in gallows humor. It can kind of keep you interested, to see how nuts everyone goes.

In the 70s and 80s, it was boring because you just had the bad football.

Heh, people certainly get whipped up into more of a frenzy these days. I think it's because the NFL is so much bigger than it was then, and the sports media, Internet, radio, etc...theres so much more coverage of the NFL in today's world.

Reerun_KC
10-14-2012, 09:15 PM
Nothing a franchise QB, a new GM, and a new coach won't fix.

Absolutely.

Strongside
10-14-2012, 09:17 PM
Nothing a franchise QB, a new GM, and a new coach won't fix.

Well, that and a vast reduction in game ticket and parking prices.

KCDC
10-14-2012, 09:17 PM
There were worse years like 2008; but, there were no high expectations. The problem is that this team has talent and expectations. They are failing miserably, making the fall from steeper heights, which makes it worse.

Bane
10-14-2012, 09:19 PM
Not sure if it's the worst season ever but it's probably the worst pile of shit that someone put together in 1 spot and called a team that I've seen in many years.

Rausch
10-14-2012, 09:19 PM
For me, yes. Worst I've watched as a fan...

KILLER_CLOWN
10-14-2012, 09:23 PM
The Frank Gansz year was pretty bad, was that the Paul Palmer year? I can't remember, years of suck seem to blend together anymore.

Flachief58
10-14-2012, 09:26 PM
The bad thing about this season is the "I just don't give a fuck" attitude that this team seems to have. I'm not sure if it's the worst season ever but, it's pretty fucking close

WV
10-14-2012, 09:30 PM
Nothing a franchise QB, a new GM, and a new coach won't fix.

:thumb:

Brock
10-14-2012, 09:30 PM
Anyway, this season is really no worse than last season, except for a brief popcorn fart of enthusiasm when Haley was fired and Palko was benched.

bricks
10-14-2012, 09:31 PM
Romeo Crennel is the worst coach I've seen.

I think this team has talent. They could win with a good staff.

The fact that we are losing big says a lot about our coaches. They have to be the worst in the league.

Count Zarth
10-14-2012, 09:31 PM
Anyway, this season is really no worse than last season, except for a brief popcorn fart of enthusiasm when Haley was fired and Palko was benched.

And Kyle Boller field trips.

qabbaan
10-14-2012, 09:32 PM
If Pioli is fired, Crennel is fired, and we draft a QB high in the first, this will be the greatest season to date. Well, since the Super Bowl.

DaneMcCloud
10-14-2012, 09:33 PM
It's certainly the worst Chiefs season of the "Internet Age".

I'm not sure anything can top 1977 or 1988.

Lbedrock1
10-14-2012, 10:05 PM
I think the worse season ever was when we let Gannon go because we were so close.

Backwards Masking
10-14-2012, 10:10 PM
If Pioli is fired, Crennel is fired, and we draft a QB high in the first, this will be the greatest season to date. Well, since the Super Bowl.

only if Clark (AKA Little Rich Boy) decides not to be 30 million under the cap again so he can buy new vacation homes

Deberg_1990
10-14-2012, 10:12 PM
The Frank Gansz year was pretty bad, was that the Paul Palmer year? I can't remember, years of suck seem to blend together anymore.

Ganz had two wonderful years.

Back to back 4 win seasons.

Exoter175
10-14-2012, 10:14 PM
It certainly is the wost season since 1983......and counting.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-14-2012, 10:16 PM
"Bill Kenney sure threw a perrty spiral" /Cassel

Brainiac
10-14-2012, 10:22 PM
I think the worse season ever was when we let Gannon go because we were so close.
That was the worst decision (although hiring Pioli seems awfully damn close right now), but overall it was a helluva lot better season than anything we've had under Pioli.

Phobia
10-14-2012, 10:23 PM
For me, yes. Worst ever. It's not even close. This team provides no hope whatsoever and it's frustrating because we all know they're better than this.

Count Zarth
10-14-2012, 10:31 PM
Chiefs teams that started 1-5:

1977 (2-12) QB Mike Livingston

1978 (4-12) QB Mike Livingston

1982 (3-6) QB Bill Kenney

1987 (4-11) QB Bill Kenney

1988 (4-11-1) QB Bill Kenney

2001 (6-10) QB Trent Green

2008 (2-14) QB Tyler Thigpen

2009 (4-12) QB Matt Cassel

2012 (1-5) QB Matt Cassel

One of these things...

Count Zarth
10-14-2012, 10:38 PM
we all know they're better than this.

Which players are not performing to their talent levels?

BryanBusby
10-14-2012, 10:47 PM
Which players are not performing to their talent levels?
It'd be easier to list the players that are: Charles, Succop, Colquitt, Houston

DaneMcCloud
10-14-2012, 10:53 PM
Which players are not performing to their talent levels?

Which are?

Brock
10-14-2012, 10:56 PM
Which players are not performing to their talent levels?

Other than Jamaal Charles, all of them.

DaWolf
10-14-2012, 10:56 PM
Yes. Especially because if there is any year where the league is ripe for picking, it is this year. A GM worth his salt would have had this team competing for the championship by now...

Count Zarth
10-14-2012, 10:56 PM
Which are?

I'd say the only two who aren't are Berry and Moeaki, due to injury.

The rest are who they are.

Derrick Johnson maybe.

DaneMcCloud
10-14-2012, 11:00 PM
I'd say the only two who aren't are Berry and Moeaki, due to injury.

The rest are who they are.

Bullshit.

Justin Houston has a been a beast that continues to improve. Hali isn't quite where he was last year, probably due to his suspension. But there is plenty of talent on this team and more than enough for a winning record.

It's all about schemes and coaching, two things that the Chiefs are sorely lacking. A great coach would have this team more competitive and it would have a winning record.

Of course, none of that means jackshit until they get a real QB but IF they get a QB and a competent coaching staff, this team will compete next year.

Look no further than the Miami Dolphins as proof. And their GM is a fucking bozo as well.

Phobia
10-14-2012, 11:00 PM
I think analyzing most player performances with the organization in a state of turmoil is pointless. Players play up and down based on the schemes, motivation, hope, and talent around them. They've all given up at this point. Except for brief moments, they're mailing it in and cashing checks which is problematic in and of itself.

Brock
10-14-2012, 11:01 PM
I saw players all over the place quitting on plays today. If they had a QB and a coach, they'd be fine. But for now, let's just stay the course plz

Count Zarth
10-14-2012, 11:06 PM
Bullshit.


I just don't think our DL is very good at all. Sub rush is garbage. Secondary has holes, esp. with Berry playing like Sammy Knight.

OL has a very rough spot with Jeff Allen who has not played well. Asamoah has had some off moments.

QBs all suck.

Baldwin, McCluster are not good.

Charles and Bowe is really all they got on offense.

Also, we have absolutely no one scary at kick or punt returner. The last good kick returner we had was Jamaal Charles. LMAO

This is probably an 8-8 team with good QB play. We've gotten league-worst QB play.

DaWolf
10-14-2012, 11:11 PM
Well prior to today the most the Bucs had beaten a team by since 2010 was 6 points.

We have become that team. Worst team in the league. Too bad this isn't last year, where you have your pick of Luck or Griffin...

DaneMcCloud
10-14-2012, 11:15 PM
I just don't think our DL is very good at all. Sub rush is garbage. Secondary has holes, esp. with Berry playing like Sammy Knight.

It's scheme. Look around the league: Outside of a few teams that invested first round picks (and got them right, I might add), most defensive lines are pedestrian. While I think there's room for improvement, it won't take much with the right scheme to turn around the defensive line.

IMO, Belcher is as big a liability as Dorsey or Jackson.

OL has a very rough spot with Jeff Allen who has not played well. Asamoah has had some off moments.

Allen's a rookie and Asamoah is still young. Both are learning. Asamoah was hampered by Pioli's decision to sit him for his rookie season.

The NFL is 90% confidence and 10% ability.

Baldwin, McCluster are not good.

This is silly. McCluster is fine. Should he be the focal point? Absolutely NOT. As a 4th option, yes.

As for Baldwin, he's definitely lived up to his pre-draft hype. He needs some serious life lessons and some serious coaching up. The talent is there, the body and speed are there, the focus isn't.

I'm disappointed but I'm not passing judgement just yet.

Charles and Bowe is really all they got on offense.

That's because the QB sucks. There's no way that Steve Breaston just fell off the planet Earth in one off-season. The receiving corp SHOULD be Top Ten. It's all on the QB.

Also, we have absolutely no one scary at kick or punt returner. The last good kick returner we had was Jamaal Charles. LMAO

I don't consider this to be a top-line issue. If the Chiefs had a QB, proper coaching and schemes, an adequate returner would do. The problem is, when everyone's sucking, everything is under the microscope.

This is probably an 8-8 team with good QB play. We've gotten league-worst QB play.

Nah, no way. Regardless of opponents, this team with a good QB would be 3-2 now at worst and if it were a young QB (Griffin, Luck, Tannehill), it would be an ascending 3-2.

The current state of the Chiefs suckiness falls on the shoulders of one man:

Scott Pioli.

Von Dumbass
10-14-2012, 11:16 PM
Well prior to today the most the Bucs had beaten a team by since 2010 was 6 points.

We have become that team. Worst team in the league. Too bad this isn't last year, where you have your pick of Luck or Griffin...

You guys were worse last year and things turned around...

DaneMcCloud
10-14-2012, 11:17 PM
You guys were worse last year and things turned around...

No

BryanBusby
10-14-2012, 11:24 PM
You guys were worse last year and things turned around...
Not at all. This years squad is much worse.

Count Zarth
10-14-2012, 11:35 PM
As for Baldwin, he's definitely lived up to his pre-draft hype.

I agree, I love all the deep balls he's been hauling in. LMAO

Come on man.

He had 2 catches for 19 yards today.

1 for 26 last week.

Living up to the hype? My ass.


McCluster is "fine" I guess, if you think marginal No. 4 WRs playing the slot and making absolutely ZERO big plays is "fine."

Guys like Dex aren't drafted in the 2nd...they're drafted in the 6th.

These guys are not very good.

Count Zarth
10-14-2012, 11:36 PM
There's no way that Steve Breaston just fell off the planet Earth in one off-season.

He's not even on the field anymore.

Pioli.

He'd rather have his marginal 5-7 draft bust and Mike Williams Part II out there.

Breaston is better than both...but he's a Haley guy.

bobbything
10-14-2012, 11:38 PM
This might be the worst Chiefs team I've ever seen (thus far). Even the Thigpen-led squad made games competitive while managing to find great ways to lose games (IIRC, that team lost 3 or 4 games by less than 3 points) . This team, good grief, is just awful in all aspects. I mean, I know it's been repeated incessantly here, but they have not had a lead at any point in any game during regulation? That's some serious awfulness right there. What do we have, 20+ turnovers? That has to be some kind of record.

What is so amazing is the dumpster fires that continue to pop up around this team in the wake of the on-field suckage...Crennel saying all the wrong things, Winston waving his own lit farts in the fans direction, stories surfacing about a contract extension for arguably the worst GM in the NFL, then subsequently suppressing them.

This team is a complete and utter debacle from the top right on down to the custodians.

KCtotheSB
10-14-2012, 11:47 PM
Worst team? Do we consider the head coach, GM, and owner as part of the "team"? If so, then f*** and yes.

DaneMcCloud
10-14-2012, 11:50 PM
I agree, I love all the deep balls he's been hauling in. LMAO

Come on man.

He had 2 catches for 19 yards today.

1 for 26 last week.

Living up to the hype? My ass.

You're missing the point: He's a fucking diva in need of serious coaching and maturation.


McCluster is "fine" I guess, if you think marginal No. 4 WRs playing the slot and making absolutely ZERO big plays is "fine."

He's a third down guy. Nothing more, nothing less.

Guys like Dex aren't drafted in the 2nd...they're drafted in the 6th.

I'd say fifth, like Jacquizz Rogers. But I've acknowledged on several occasions that Pioli fucked up the 2010 second round.

He's a better player than Arenas.

Count Zarth
10-14-2012, 11:51 PM
I agree that he's something of a diva.

But I just don't think that he's very good, at all.

I don't think he has the quickness to consistently get open against good corners.

He should go play basketball.

DaneMcCloud
10-15-2012, 12:01 AM
I agree that he's something of a diva.

But I just don't think that he's very good, at all.

I don't think he has the quickness to consistently get open against good corners.

He should go play basketball.

He certainly wouldn't have been my choice but with proper coaching and a good QB, he has a chance to be an effective red zone and third down weapon.

But with these coaches and QB's? Not a chance.

New World Order
10-15-2012, 12:08 AM
I agree that he's something of a diva.

But I just don't think that he's very good, at all.

I don't think he has the quickness to consistently get open against good corners.

He should go play basketball.



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