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petegz28
10-15-2012, 05:35 PM
Bill Maas pretty much laid it at the feet of the coaches. Said too many of the "little things" are just not being done. One example was receivers having their hands palm up when catching as opposed to palms out.

Bashed DJ for not getting into Vincent Jackson coming off the line when Jackson scored a TD.

Bashed on Lewis on 2 plays for not "looking like he wants to hit someone"

Got on Berry for being too far off of Vincent Jackson on a TD play

Said opposing defenses have to do only two things to shut down our offense..

1. Stack the box against the run
2. Roll pass coverage towards Bowe

Good things he said...

Said some good things about Houston

Said Daboll looks like he is trying to be a little creative to get the ball in the hands of other people, pointed out the TE screen to Maneri on that one

Said Quinn did some good things even though he doesn't buy the "rusty" excuse. But he showed Quinn talking to the line on the sidelines and not just gong and sitting down by himself (Shot at CasseLLLLLLLLL)

Said Quinn had some good passes and though he did say Quinn is not the answer he pretty much thinks he can be better than CasseLLLLLLLLL

Mitch Holthus pointed out that Quinn was getting the ball out quick and avoiding the negative pass plays.

Maas also pretty much bashed the front office and eluded to PioLLLLLi being a cancer when coaches and players don't want to come to this team because of who the GM is

Pestilence
10-15-2012, 05:39 PM
Kendrick Lewis fucking sucks. We need a real FS.

petegz28
10-15-2012, 05:41 PM
Maas also pointed that Pioli "may" be good at scouting talent on the field but that's not enough, it has to be about chemistry

jd1020
10-15-2012, 05:42 PM
One example was receivers having their hands palm up when catching as opposed to palms out.

Am I reading this wrong?

scott free
10-15-2012, 05:43 PM
I agree with most of that, but defending Dumboll is a bridge too far... creative?

LMMFAO... thats why he threw to dex on 3rd & 15, or ran it on 2nd & 1 from the buc 30, after quinn had completed some decent passes on the drive.

No guts, buh bye dumboll.

petegz28
10-15-2012, 05:44 PM
Am I reading this wrong?


No, his point was when you have your plams up it leads to pased being tipped up as opposed to having your palms facing out

petegz28
10-15-2012, 05:45 PM
I agree with most of that, but defending Dumboll is a bridge too far... creative?

LMMFAO... thats why he threw to dex on 3rd & 15, or ran it on 2nd & 1 from the buc 30, after quinn had completed some decent passes on the drive.

No guts, buh bye dumboll.

Yeah, I thought it was a bit of a reach. He wasn't praising him or anything but did mention that

jd1020
10-15-2012, 05:47 PM
No, his point was when you have your plams up it leads to pased being tipped up as opposed to having your palms facing out

I get the point, but wouldn't you want your palms in?

Woodchuck
10-15-2012, 05:48 PM
I can't give Quinn any credit. He looked just like Cassel to me. Overthrowing and underthrowing receivers. Even on screen passes.

petegz28
10-15-2012, 05:50 PM
I get the point, but wouldn't you want your palms in?

I think it's more of an inbetween you want your palms mostly facing the ball

petegz28
10-15-2012, 05:50 PM
I can't give Quinn any credit. He looked just like CasseLLLLL to me. Overthrowing and underthrowing receivers. Even on screen passes.

Meh, it was his first game in a few years. I'll cut him a touch of slack. And regardless, I'd rather watch him than Cassel.

notorious
10-15-2012, 05:52 PM
Kendrick Lewis ****ing sucks. We need a real FS.

We will have a top 5 pick, and the HoneyBadger will probably be available from LSU......

brorth
10-15-2012, 05:55 PM
I think it's more of an inbetween you want your palms mostly facing the ball

So the ball doesn't bounce off the back of your hands?

petegz28
10-15-2012, 05:56 PM
So the ball doesn't bounce off the back of your hands?

heh?

Pestilence
10-15-2012, 05:57 PM
We will have a top 5 pick, and the HoneyBadger will probably be available from LSU......

:spock:

notorious
10-15-2012, 05:58 PM
:spock:

Oh, he's not a D-Lineman.



Mark him off the list. ;)

brorth
10-15-2012, 06:12 PM
heh?

It's not so much in between, your palms face out so the soft part of your hands is the first thing to touch the ball.
If your palms face in, the ball would hit the backs of your hands. Palms up means you are trying to trap the ball in your chest, and often results in the ball being batted up.
It's high school receiver type stuff.

petegz28
10-15-2012, 06:16 PM
It's not so much in between, your palms face out so the soft part of your hands is the first thing to touch the ball.
If your palms face in, the ball would hit the backs of your hands. Palms up means you are trying to trap the ball in your chest, and often results in the ball being batted up.
It's high school receiver type stuff.

That's what I was saying but really you don't have your palms facing squarely to the ball. I was always taught you form kind of a funnel with your hands. I think we are splitting hairs here.

MotherfuckerJones
10-15-2012, 06:19 PM
IMO Quinn was far better than Cassel. Still had poor oline play not allowing Quinn much time to throw. WRs suck!! Baldwin continues to try acrobatic catches. Bowe still dropping balls. DMC still giving the ball up

Sorter
10-15-2012, 06:22 PM
We will have a top 5 pick, and the HoneyBadger will probably be available from LSU......

First, the "Honey Badger" doesn't play FS. He will only play inside as a nickel or dime back. Additionally, his man coverage skills are more dismal than Javier Arenas. If you feel like using a top 5 pick on a punt returner/overrated nickel/dime back, go right ahead Matt Millen.

MahiMike
10-15-2012, 06:24 PM
I agree with most of that, but defending Dumboll is a bridge too far... creative?

LMMFAO... thats why he threw to dex on 3rd & 15, or ran it on 2nd & 1 from the buc 30, after quinn had completed some decent passes on the drive.

No guts, buh bye dumboll.

Yes, you have to be extremely creative to figure out how to throw 30 times in 7 yards or less.

#1 Bronco's Fan
10-15-2012, 06:27 PM
Bill Maas pretty much laid it at the feet of the coaches. Said too many of the "little things" are just not being done. One example was receivers having their hands palm up when catching as opposed to palms out.

Bashed DJ for not getting into Vincent Jackson coming off the line when Jackson scored a TD.

Bashed on Lewis on 2 plays for not "looking like he wants to hit someone"

Got on Berry for being too far off of Vincent Jackson on a TD play

Said opposing defenses have to do only two things to shut down our offense..

1. Stack the box against the run
2. Roll pass coverage towards Bowe

Good things he said...

Maas also pretty much bashed the front office and eluded to PioLLLLLi being a cancer when coaches and players don't want to come to this team because of who the GM is

So that loser Bill Maas is still around? I remember a few years ago he took a Woody Paige article practically verbatim and tried to pass it off as his own.

Maas lifted whole sections of a column he wrote for the Kansas City Sports Weekly directly from a piece written by Denver Post columnist Woody Paige. As if that weren't bad enough, the Kansas City Star ran the Paige column on the front of its sports section on Jan. 3.

From Maas: "...Who is the best running back from Lincoln High in San Diego, KC's Marcus Allen or Denver's Tyrell (sic) Davis? Who is the King, Elvis or Elway? Will it be a turnover that wins this game or a "Vanover" that wins it?"
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/stories/1998/01/12/tidbits.html?page=all

theelusiveeightrop
10-15-2012, 06:36 PM
We will have a top 5 pick, and the HoneyBadger will probably be available from LSU......


Kansas City needs more drug users on the team

Psyko Tek
10-15-2012, 06:41 PM
It's not so much in between, your palms face out so the soft part of your hands is the first thing to touch the ball.
If your palms face in, the ball would hit the backs of your hands. Palms up means you are trying to trap the ball in your chest, and often results in the ball being batted up.
It's high school receiver type stuff.

high school hell
I think my dad taught me that before I could walk
then I was from Nebraska
where football IS the state religion

jd1020
10-15-2012, 06:58 PM
It's not so much in between, your palms face out so the soft part of your hands is the first thing to touch the ball.
If your palms face in, the ball would hit the backs of your hands. Palms up means you are trying to trap the ball in your chest, and often results in the ball being batted up.
It's high school receiver type stuff.

How so? We are talking about making a catch. I'm not talking about your palms in as in towards your body. I'm talking about palms in in relation to the ball. Up - I'm trying to trap the ball against my body. In - I'm creating an "O" with my index fingers and thumbs and letting the ball slide in. Out, to me, sounds like you are signaling someone to stop or something.

petegz28
10-15-2012, 07:00 PM
How so? We are talking about making a catch. I'm not talking about your palms in as in towards your body. I'm talking about palms in in relation to the ball. Up - I'm trying to trap the ball against my body. In - I'm creating an "O" with my index fingers and thumbs and letting the ball slide in. Out, to me, sounds like you are signaling someone to stop or something.

But by creationg hte "O" your palms are facing out, for all intents and purposes