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stevenidol
10-18-2012, 06:11 PM
The Chargers let Vincent Jackson walk and got nothing. The Broncos traded Brandon Marshall to Miami and got two 2nd round picks. The Dolphins traded Marshall to the Bears and got two 3rd round picks.

What is Dwayne Bowe worth? I think if the Chiefs can get a 2nd round pick they should jump all over it, but a 3rd round it more likely. They can probably make the pick conditional on if he signs a new deal with the new team.

MIAdragon
10-18-2012, 06:11 PM
Nothing short of a 1st.

Sorter
10-18-2012, 06:13 PM
Ideally, 2 2nd round picks.

If I were a GM, I would be willing to settle for either 2 3rds, a 2nd and 4th, or a 2nd in 2013 and a 2nd in '14.

Pestilence
10-18-2012, 06:13 PM
1st and a 3rd but I would accept both of their 2nd round picks and a later pick.

Sorter
10-18-2012, 06:13 PM
Nothing short of a 1st.

You will not get that kind of compensation.

ChiefsandO'sfan
10-18-2012, 06:13 PM
No one is giving a First for Bowe.

Sorter
10-18-2012, 06:14 PM
The last WR traded for a 1st was Roy Williams, no? I think the highest pick a wr has been traded for since was Marshall for 2 2nds.

Scorp
10-18-2012, 06:14 PM
The best thing to do is to Franchise tag him again next year. Nobody is going to give up a 1st for Bowe.

SNR
10-18-2012, 06:14 PM
Dwayne Bowe is worth a first round pick.

Nobody will pay that for a receiver that they also have to dole out a new contract for.

Which is another reason why it's fucking dumb we're trading him. We're not going to get the proper value.

ChiefsandO'sfan
10-18-2012, 06:15 PM
The best thing to do is to Franchise tag him again next year. Nobody is going to give up a 1st for Bowe.

Maybe the New GM can get a deal done with him.

Molitoth
10-18-2012, 06:16 PM
round two and a round three.

MIAdragon
10-18-2012, 06:16 PM
You will not get that kind of compensation.

Then he stays and is tagged.

Scorp
10-18-2012, 06:16 PM
Maybe the New GM can get a deal done with him.

I am afraid there isn't going to be a new GM. :deevee:

L.A. Chieffan
10-18-2012, 06:18 PM
Let the GM walk

HemiEd
10-18-2012, 06:18 PM
1st and a 3rd but I would accept both of their 2nd round picks and a later pick.

This, similar to the Jared Allen deal.

mcaj22
10-18-2012, 06:19 PM
Then he stays and is tagged.

then Albert walks

either way you are losing at least ONE of the few decent players left on this team for nothing.

Pioli is not getting a long term deal done with anyone. especially at 1-5 going down.

you have to assume everyone on a 1 year deal or in the final year of their contract wants to test the market and get the fuck out here.

Sorter
10-18-2012, 06:20 PM
The best thing to do is to Franchise tag him again next year. Nobody is going to give up a 1st for Bowe.

If I knew there was no way of retaining Bowe, I would trade him for 2 2nds.

Hypothetically, we'd get the 2 compensatory 3rds for Carr and Orton. We could be looking at the #1 overall (Geno) + 3 2nds, 3 3rds to draft a fuck load of talent.

Think the ransom the Rams got, only getting RGIII as well.

mcaj22
10-18-2012, 06:22 PM
yea but Id like all that compensation to be drafted by any other GM not named Scott Pioli becauses hes just going to waste all those picks on midgets, special teamers, 5 techs and crappy TEs/CBs

petegz28
10-18-2012, 06:28 PM
No one is giving a First for Bowe.

This. I think we're lucky to get a 2nd and 4th or a 2nd and possible 2nd for the year after pending performance.

Sorter
10-18-2012, 06:28 PM
yea but Id like all that compensation to be drafted by any other GM not named Scott Pioli becauses hes just going to waste all those picks on midgets, special teamers, 5 techs and crappy TEs/CBs

Most definitely.

Bump
10-18-2012, 06:29 PM
No one is giving a First for Bowe.

why not?

teams with a legit QB would be creaming in their pants with a receiver like Bowe.

The Iron Chief
10-18-2012, 06:29 PM
I'd like to see at least two new threads on the subject daily til it comes true.
More than two would simply be a bonus.

WV
10-18-2012, 06:30 PM
Mother fuck you! I don't want to trade him at all!

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-18-2012, 06:30 PM
Nothing short of a 1st.

This.

And a new QB instead of this trade Bowe bullshit.

petegz28
10-18-2012, 06:30 PM
Can we include Pioli in the trade? We toss him in for a towel boy to be named at a later date?

qabbaan
10-18-2012, 06:35 PM
A similar deal to what Marshall brought would be fair, but they will have to invest in a long term deal.

All in all, if we got a second round pick for him we would probably be doing fine.

petegz28
10-18-2012, 06:37 PM
Perhaps I am missing something but why would any team invest a 1st into a player who will be an FA next year?

saphojunkie
10-18-2012, 06:39 PM
I want to trade Bowe to the Browns. That should also ensure that they don't have a higher pick than us.

A 2nd and a 3rd is most likely compensation.

Chocolate Hog
10-18-2012, 06:40 PM
Ideally, 2 2nd round picks.

If I were a GM, I would be willing to settle for either 2 3rds, a 2nd and 4th, or a 2nd in 2013 and a 2nd in '14.

This.

Get two 2nd's and sign Mike Wallace.

mcaj22
10-18-2012, 06:42 PM
Pioli and 2nd round picks in terms of trading has not been fortunate to us based on history

Pioli traded our 2nd for Cassel/Vrabel
Pioli traded Tony G for a 2nd which was essentially Javier Arenas

it is going to be depressing when he trades Bowe and just drafts some turd with the pick.

It all comes down to the god awful ****ing GM and what he can actually do with the haul/pieces he gets. And our GM has proven time and time again he is too inept in his own world to even improve this team on something as simple as trading a guy for a 2nd rounder and taking advantage of it. He tries way too hard because he thinks hes a smarter GM than everyone else in the league

KC Tattoo
10-18-2012, 06:43 PM
Pioli fired.


I don't give a fuck / Jason Whitlock

Sorter
10-18-2012, 06:45 PM
Perhaps I am missing something but why would any team invest a 1st into a player who will be an FA next year?

This.

saphojunkie
10-18-2012, 06:45 PM
St. Louis has some extra picks floating around and could sure use a legit wide receiver.

Oh, and any team trading for him would talk to his agent first about negotiating a long-term deal.

Sofa King
10-18-2012, 06:48 PM
Andrew Luck

tredadda
10-18-2012, 06:50 PM
I don't want to trade Bowe for any picks right now. I have no faith in this GM to use them wisely. He would waste them and we would lose a #1 WR in the process. Under a competent GM I would accept two 2nd rounders although I don't want to lose Bowe.

MIAdragon
10-18-2012, 06:51 PM
This.

Its a "win now" league, someone will pay.

Sorter
10-18-2012, 06:59 PM
Its a "win now" league, someone will pay.

Agree, just not that it will be a 1st. The last WR that got a 1st in compensation was Roy Williams. Since that trade, WRs have been devalued greatly by teams in trades.

petegz28
10-18-2012, 07:00 PM
Its a "win now" league, someone will pay.

I wouldn't waste a 1st on a player that may not even be on my team the next year.

ChiefsandO'sfan
10-18-2012, 07:05 PM
Its a "win now" league, someone will pay.

So you think a team is gonna give the chiefs a first round pick for a WR that they cant work on a new deal with? No team is gonna give a first up and hope they can sign him long term in off season.

WV
10-18-2012, 07:29 PM
I wouldn't waste a 1st on a player that may not even be on my team the next year.

So you think a team is gonna give the chiefs a first round pick for a WR that they cant work on a new deal with? No team is gonna give a first up and hope they can sign him long term in off season.

IF he is traded it will be contingent on him signing a long term deal, you can bet on that.

#1 Bronco's Fan
10-18-2012, 07:30 PM
then Albert walks

either way you are losing at least ONE of the few decent players left on this team for nothing.

Pioli is not getting a long term deal done with anyone. especially at 1-5 going down.

you have to assume everyone on a 1 year deal or in the final year of their contract wants to test the market and get the **** out here.

Why can't the Chiefs just sign them? Jesus Christ fork out some money for a change.

hometeam
10-18-2012, 07:32 PM
I would like to see a first.

I would feel ok about a 2nd with conditions to move into a 1st.

OctoberFart
10-18-2012, 07:32 PM
Dwayne Bowe is worth a first round pick.

Nobody will pay that for a receiver that they also have to dole out a new contract for.

Which is another reason why it's ****ing dumb we're trading him. We're not going to get the proper value.

When was the last time a WR fetched a first? Mike Wallace didn't even get a 1st. 2nd round pick plus a later pick is what Bowe is worth. We traded a first for Moss which was awful and he is a HOF player.

hometeam
10-18-2012, 07:33 PM
Why can't the Chiefs just sign them? Jesus Christ fork out some money for a change.

Lol.

First, we know from experience they wont pay.

Second, if you where a big money free agent, would you stick with this team?

Actually, dont answer that. Ill do it for you. NOPE

mcaj22
10-18-2012, 07:50 PM
Why can't the Chiefs just sign them? Jesus Christ fork out some money for a change.

you have no leverage halfway through the season when you are 1-5, and only looking to get worse.

Winning cures all. It would be different if we were 4-2, 3-3 and in the hunt. But we are not. The team is a mess and these guys are telling their agents probably not even to answer the phone if Pioli calls

Pioli has no leverage for guys like Bowe, Albert, Colquitt, etc. He has 1 Franchise Tag and that cant magically turn into 5 tags. He cant keep them all.

Dorsey walks, Albert walks, Bowe walks, Colquitt walks.

All possible scenarios. I know people are fine with letting guys like Dorsey walks. But its not every day teams let 5th overall picks that are only like 27/28 years old walk for nothing.

Pioli does, because hes a ****ing idiot.

KC Tattoo
10-18-2012, 08:00 PM
Lol.

First, we know from experience they wont pay.

Second, if you where a big money free agent, would you stick with this team?

Actually, dont answer that. Ill do it for you. NOPE

Exacty. Bowe don't want to be here Pioli peed on that deal. The longer Pioli is here the worst off we are regardless of who he would draft in next years class. He wont even draft us a first round QB I bet or none who we would want like Geno Smith. Pioli has his own agenda his own way to build a team and he tried to bring the scrap from NE as that was his comfort zone.

RunKC
10-18-2012, 08:19 PM
I pray to God this situation ends up the like the Matt Forte situation in Chicago.

Old GM wouldn't pay Forte and Forte got pissed, but then the old GM was canned and Phil Emery came in a gave him a contract.

hometeam
10-18-2012, 08:42 PM
I pray to God this situation ends up the like the Matt Forte situation in Chicago.

Old GM wouldn't pay Forte and Forte got pissed, but then the old GM was canned and Phil Emery came in a gave him a contract.

Honestly that is the ONLY way I can see Bowe staying, and part of that equation is Bowe is going to have to drink the koolaid of whoever comes in (GM and coach).

Psyko Tek
10-18-2012, 09:25 PM
If I knew there was no way of retaining Bowe, I would trade him for 2 2nds.

Hypothetically, we'd get the 2 compensatory 3rds for Carr and Orton. We could be looking at the #1 overall (Geno) + 3 2nds, 3 3rds to draft a fuck load of talent.

Think the ransom the Rams got, only getting RGIII as well.

so we could draft a whole DLine and another nickleback, a new project reciever, and new kickers?
sounds about right

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-18-2012, 09:29 PM
Nothing. I want them to open up the pocket books and pay the man.

CoMoChief
10-18-2012, 09:31 PM
He's a pro bowl WR at a skilled position in his prime.

If he's not worth a 1st rd pick, then what is?

petegz28
10-18-2012, 09:34 PM
He's a pro bowl WR at a skilled position in his prime.

If he's not worth a 1st rd pick, then what is?

If he had a couple years on his contract he would maybe garner a 1st. No one will give up a pick designed for long term investment on a player that is a FA at the end of the season.

Braincase
10-18-2012, 09:37 PM
It's a fire sale pick. If we can't trade him before the deadline, we get nada. Take a second, settle for a third. I'd rather not have to tag him for two years straight.

KC Tattoo
10-18-2012, 09:52 PM
It's a fire sale pick. If we can't trade him before the deadline, we get nada. Take a second, settle for a third. I'd rather not have to tag him for two years straight.

If we can happen to get a new GM in time I want Pioli to leave his ass alone and let the new GM tag him for another year.

mcaj22
10-18-2012, 09:55 PM
I pray to God this situation ends up the like the Matt Forte situation in Chicago.

Old GM wouldn't pay Forte and Forte got pissed, but then the old GM was canned and Phil Emery came in a gave him a contract.

should have fired Pioli and made Emery OUR GM. He would have at least drafted BPA and not made god awful picks like Pioli does

boogblaster
10-18-2012, 10:00 PM
if not a 1st .. then tagg him again ....

Buehler445
10-18-2012, 10:10 PM
It isn't even an option. You sign the best receiver this team has had in 40 years to a second contract. You fucking give him whatever he wants. If that includes stomping on Cassel's balls, let him stomp cassel's balls.

Molitoth
10-18-2012, 10:13 PM
Dorsey walks, Albert walks, Bowe walks, Colquitt walks

why would colquitt walk when he gets the most playtime in kc?


zing

SDChiefs
10-18-2012, 10:13 PM
Ill trade pioli for bowe. Hell ill throw in cassel and crennel to sweeten the pot.

WV
10-18-2012, 10:15 PM
It isn't even an option. You sign the best receiver this team has had in 40 years to a second contract. You fucking give him whatever he wants. If that includes stomping on Cassel's balls, let him stomp cassel's balls.

Yes Yes this....

jspchief
10-18-2012, 10:29 PM
There's no fucking way that the CBA keeps a franchised player from negotiating a new contract in the event of the trade. That rule makes no sense for any of the parties involved. Whoever is making that claim has their information wrong.

As for having no leverage to sign Albert, money is leverage.

Sorter
10-18-2012, 10:43 PM
so we could draft a whole DLine and another nickleback, a new project reciever, and new kickers?
sounds about right

You forgot LT. Duh.

CaliforniaChief
10-18-2012, 10:50 PM
1. I want a guarantee that Pioli will not be around to use the pick(s) we acquire.

2. I want a new GM/HC to make a legitimate offer and attempt to keep D Bowe here.

3. If the ship has sailed and too much water is under the bridge, I want either a first or a team's next 2 2nd's. Bowe comes with much less garbage than Marshall, and I submit would be just as good with a decent QB.

Bewbies
10-19-2012, 12:52 AM
I want to be the team that ends up with Bowe. Being on the other side of that trade is being on the wrong side.

AussieChiefsFan
10-19-2012, 12:57 AM
Id wouldn't be happy with less than 2 2nd round picks. Next april if we need to trade up for Geno, and we need to add him into the mix then maybe.

Bewbies
10-19-2012, 01:04 AM
Id wouldn't be happy with less than 2 2nd round picks. Next april if we need to trade up for Geno, and we need to add him into the mix then maybe.

The only way we'll be able to trade up is to trade into the 2012 draft.

BossChief
10-19-2012, 01:27 AM
If we can't get a first or the equivalent for Bowe, I'd just keep him and try our best to work out a deal for Albert and tag Bowe again in hopes of reaching a ltd with him once we draft Geno.

mcaj22
10-19-2012, 01:30 AM
If we can't get a first or the equivalent for Bowe, I'd just keep him and try our best to work out a deal for Albert and tag Bowe again in hopes of reaching a ltd with him once we draft Geno.

this is the most unlikely scenario sadly

spanky 52
10-19-2012, 05:46 AM
I'm thinking we'll get nothing for Bowe. He'll walk. What worries me is the thought of that arrogant pile of pig shit named Pioli will low ball Albert or that Albert wants out of town too.

Rausch
10-19-2012, 05:58 AM
I'm thinking if we had a legitimate QB playing here he wouldn't want out so badly...

Rausch
10-19-2012, 05:59 AM
I'm thinking we'll get nothing for Bowe. He'll walk. What worries me is the thought of that arrogant pile of pig shit named Pioli will low ball Albert or that Albert wants out of town too.

I think we'll overpay for Albert and pinch pennies with Bowe...

Ace Gunner
10-19-2012, 06:09 AM
Clark Hunt or ? I would welcome Miami with glee.

bevischief
10-19-2012, 07:26 AM
A new GM and a new head coach.

warrior
10-19-2012, 07:35 AM
A new GM and a new head coach.

This and two 2nd round picks.

Woodchuck
10-19-2012, 07:38 AM
If we could get the Dolphins to bite (which I don't think they will), I want Matt Moore and a 2nd.

Otherwise, at least a second. In reality that's all we would probably get. If we keep him and he walks at the end of the year, we will be looking at a 3rd round comp pick.

If we can't get a first or the equivalent for Bowe, I'd just keep him and try our best to work out a deal for Albert and tag Bowe again in hopes of reaching a ltd with him once we draft Geno.

This would be good as long as he has a good attitude. Supposibly, he wants out. How long will he be nice?

Micjones
10-19-2012, 08:37 AM
Bowe isn't going to fetch two picks.
We also aren't going to get a #1 for him. I'll settle for a #2.

htismaqe
10-19-2012, 09:13 AM
I'm thinking if we had a legitimate QB playing here he wouldn't want out so badly...

Yep.

scho63
12-30-2012, 08:42 AM
Would it be a smart move to franchise tag Bowe again for 2013 and then trade him if he wants out or we aren't willing to pay him what he is worth?

I would like to keep him but just asking.....

Pasta Giant Meatball
12-30-2012, 08:43 AM
Your soul

jd1020
12-30-2012, 08:44 AM
Would it be a smart move to franchise tag Bowe again for 2013 and then trade him if he wants out or we aren't willing to pay him what he is worth?

No... that wouldn't be smart at all!!!

It's much smarter to let him walk off the team and not even get a goodbye wave in return...

Pasta Giant Meatball
12-30-2012, 08:45 AM
How about just lock him up long term. You show him the money he'll stay.

GloryDayz
12-30-2012, 09:14 AM
http://allthingsd.com/files/2012/04/One-Billion-Dollars-16806.jpeg

Mr. Laz
12-30-2012, 09:46 AM
How about just lock him up long term. You show him the money he'll stay.
100 million like Calvin Johnson?

Mr. Laz
12-30-2012, 09:48 AM
according to people around here, He is the 2nd coming of Jerry Rice if he just had a good QB throwing to him. So that means at least a 1st round pick.

GloryDayz
12-30-2012, 09:58 AM
according to people around here, He is the 2nd coming of Jerry Rice if he just had a good QB throwing to him. So that means at least a 1st round pick.

He could be, but when you can put up the kind of yards we do and still lose games, it might take Jesus himself..

the Talking Can
12-30-2012, 10:05 AM
according to people around here, He is the 2nd coming of Jerry Rice if he just had a good QB throwing to him. So that means at least a 1st round pick.

with all the blood spurting out of your vajayjay, how do you get through the day?

bevischief
12-30-2012, 10:06 AM
Hookers and blow and several million dollars

boogblaster
12-30-2012, 10:57 AM
He needs replaced with another good WR ....

SNR
12-30-2012, 12:14 PM
100 million like Calvin Johnson?

You're really going to side with Scott fucking Pioli in these contract talks that took place this offseason? Pioli was the fucking reasonable one? Really?

For all we know Bowe's people wanted Vincent Jackson money and Pioli wouldn't sign him for anything less than chump change.

jd1020
12-30-2012, 12:15 PM
You're really going to side with Scott ****ing Pioli in these contract talks that took place this offseason? Pioli was the ****ing reasonable one? Really?

For all we know Bowe's people wanted Vincent Jackson money and Pioli wouldn't sign him for anything less than chump change.

Considering we know absolutely nothing about the negotiations, the Chiefs could have been offering Vincent Jackson money.

SNR
12-30-2012, 12:29 PM
Considering we know absolutely nothing about the negotiations, the Chiefs could have been offering Vincent Jackson money.
That's about as likely as Bowe's people wanting Vincent Jackson money. And about as unlikely as Bowe wanting Megatron/Fitz money.

Like you said, we know absolutely nothing about the negotiations. But people automatically assume that Bowe is the bad guy here. Just like he's the bad guy in every single situation ever since he's been here in Kansas City. I'm getting fucking tired of fans badmouthing the best WR this football team has ever had. Why the fuck do they do it? I don't get it. What makes so hateable?

"$100 million" indeed

NWTF
12-30-2012, 12:47 PM
Bowe might get a 4th rd pick at best.

SNR
12-30-2012, 12:50 PM
Bowe might get a 4th rd pick at best.

That's why if the Chiefs are going for maximum value in this situation, they need to just pay Bowe the money and keep him around.

The potential for Bowe to produce with a real QB >>>>> some try-hard college walk on CB

NWTF
12-30-2012, 12:54 PM
That's why if the Chiefs are going for maximum value in this situation, they need to just pay Bowe the money and keep him around.

The potential for Bowe to produce with a real QB >>>>> some try-hard college walk on CB

Thats what I would do (resign him). They wont get the appropriate value by trading him and he will be more productive with a QB upgrade, which is going to happen.

Mr. Laz
12-30-2012, 01:00 PM
You're really going to side with Scott fucking Pioli in these contract talks that took place this offseason? Pioli was the fucking reasonable one? Really?

For all we know Bowe's people wanted Vincent Jackson money and Pioli wouldn't sign him for anything less than chump change.
actually i'm not


but ... If Bowe wasn't asking for elite money then the chiefs would or signed him or another team would of traded for him.

1. either Bowe is asking for a ton

or

2. teams around the league don't think he's elite


This isn't about Pioli

The Chiefs preferred to pay Bowe 9 million on a 1-year tag then sign him to a long term contract. That means either Bowe wants significantly more than 9 million per or a huge signing bonus ... maybe Bowe doesn't want to be here at all.

The Chiefs didn't trade Bowe either which means that all the other teams in the league do not think that Bowe is worth the money he is asking for and a draft pick.

Now we don't know what Bowe is asking for or what the Chiefs are asking for in trade but just look at the situation. If any team thought that Bowe really was an elite WR they would of given up a 1st round pick and signed him.

mcaj22
12-30-2012, 01:04 PM
actually i'm not


but ... If Bowe wasn't asking for elite money then the chiefs would or signed him or another team would of traded for him.

1. either Bowe is asking for a ton

or

2. teams around the league don't think he's elite


This isn't about Pioli

The Chiefs preferred to pay Bowe 9 million on a 1-year tag then sign him to a long term contract. That means either Bowe wants significantly more than 9 million per or a huge signing bonus ... maybe Bowe doesn't want to be here at all.

The Chiefs didn't trade Bowe either which means that all the other teams in the league do not think that Bowe is worth the money he is asking for and a draft pick.

Now we don't know what Bowe is asking for or what the Chiefs are asking for in trade but just look at the situation. If any team thought that Bowe really was an elite WR they would of given up a 1st round pick and signed him.

or it means none of those things and it means Pioli has a massive ego and wants to play his own draft picks and continue to flush out the old regimes players, the ones in their prime and the only talent actually on the team so he can continue is 10 year rebuild plan.

Which is the most likely.

Brandon Carr was clearly not asking for a lot and we chose to go the cheaper route on that, and it blew up in the franchise face, we not only did we have the money to afford Carr, we should have paid him every bit of it. Just like Bowe in this current situation. Whatever he wants you pay him, there isnt a WR on this team close to Bowe's level to replace him, and in the span of one offseason there wont be one on the market or in the draft either.

Caseyguyrr
12-30-2012, 01:11 PM
no way in hell bowe is worth a first

KCFaninSEA
12-30-2012, 01:26 PM
or it means none of those things and it means Pioli has a massive ego and wants to play his own draft picks and continue to flush out the old regimes players, the ones in their prime and the only talent actually on the team so he can continue is 10 year rebuild plan.

Which is the most likely.

Brandon Carr was clearly not asking for a lot and we chose to go the cheaper route on that, and it blew up in the franchise face, we not only did we have the money to afford Carr, we should have paid him every bit of it. Just like Bowe in this current situation. Whatever he wants you pay him, there isnt a WR on this team close to Bowe's level to replace him, and in the span of one offseason there wont be one on the market or in the draft either.

Then they wouldn't have tagged him. He, right now, is being paid the average of the top 5 receivers in the league. I would assume the front office was willing to pay him close to that already or they would have let him walk. I can think of 8 WR's that, IMO, are better than him off the top of my head; Calvin, Brandon, Dez, AJ, Andre, Julio, Larry and Victor. There are probably another handfull who are as good, maybe better, maybe worse, but arguable either way. So if that is the case he is already being over paid. Don't get me wrong, I like Bowe and want him to stay but if he is arguing that he should be higher paid than my top 8, I beg to differ. Fitzgerald is better than him and probably has a worse QB situation than the Chiefs have so that shouldn't be part of the discussion.

Could Bowe be MUCH better with a QB that is somewhat competent? I think so but he doesn't help his situation when his history of drops is what it is. Hopefully we get a chance to find out.

Mr. Laz
12-30-2012, 01:57 PM
or it means none of those things and it means Pioli has a massive ego and wants to play his own draft picks and continue to flush out the old regimes players, the ones in their prime and the only talent actually on the team so he can continue is 10 year rebuild plan.

Which is the most likely.

Brandon Carr was clearly not asking for a lot and we chose to go the cheaper route on that, and it blew up in the franchise face, we not only did we have the money to afford Carr, we should have paid him every bit of it. Just like Bowe in this current situation. Whatever he wants you pay him, there isnt a WR on this team close to Bowe's level to replace him, and in the span of one offseason there wont be one on the market or in the draft either.
he got overpaid all to hell by the cowboys ... even Jerry Jones said as much.



ahh .. the ol' Pioli is Dr. Evil stance

texaschiefsfan
12-30-2012, 02:10 PM
They can use whatever pick they get to draft a McCluster clone.

bevischief
12-30-2012, 02:13 PM
Hookers for life and millions.

Cave Johnson
12-30-2012, 03:10 PM
A 3-way with your mom and sister.

mcaj22
12-30-2012, 03:15 PM
he got overpaid all to hell by the cowboys ... even Jerry Jones said as much.



ahh .. the ol' Pioli is Dr. Evil stance

he clearly did not get overpaid lol

Buehler445
12-30-2012, 03:17 PM
Nothing. They have to keep him or I kill everybody. I've stated that from the beginning.

mcaj22
12-30-2012, 03:19 PM
the thing with Carr is we had Flowers

the problem with Bowe is, we have nobody else after him. Not one talented WR to pick up that production. Flowers can still hold is own and clearly Carr wasnt missed that badly.

They tagged Bowe because of the massive crap they put at WR not progressing to resemble any NFL talent. And thought 1 more year of Bowe would buy them time. They (Pioli) went into this season with high hopes just like all of us did

Bowe on a 1 year rental, hoping that Baldwin and McCluster and Moeaki break out. Then it is easier to buffer losing Bowe after this season. But not anymore.

it blew up in his face, and now hes at a stalemate with guys like Albert, Bowe, etc and only one franchise tag to give out, as surely their agents probably wont even answer the phone being that their chance to hit the market is only months away

KCFaninSEA
12-30-2012, 08:03 PM
the thing with Carr is we had Flowers

the problem with Bowe is, we have nobody else after him. Not one talented WR to pick up that production. Flowers can still hold is own and clearly Carr wasnt missed that badly.

They tagged Bowe because of the massive crap they put at WR not progressing to resemble any NFL talent. And thought 1 more year of Bowe would buy them time. They (Pioli) went into this season with high hopes just like all of us did

Bowe on a 1 year rental, hoping that Baldwin and McCluster and Moeaki break out. Then it is easier to buffer losing Bowe after this season. But not anymore.

it blew up in his face, and now hes at a stalemate with guys like Albert, Bowe, etc and only one franchise tag to give out, as surely their agents probably wont even answer the phone being that their chance to hit the market is only months away

I agree to an extent. The management of this franchise could end up overpaying for a player based on need. Again, I like Bowe but paying him top WR money does not make for a good franchise. They need to keep him or get equal talent for less money. They may have to pay him top tier money just to keep him which is a management mistake. If they hard ball him I don't think anybody out on the open market will pay him top WR money and he probably should have secured a deal last year. Easy to say that now but I think Bowe hurt himself, and once again Pioli hurt the Chiefs. Nobody is gonna be a winner here.

TribalElder
12-30-2012, 08:05 PM
I want bowe to sign and return so Geno has a vet receiver so fuck a trade

HonestChieffan
12-30-2012, 08:11 PM
I want bowe to sign and return so Geno has a vet receiver so **** a trade

Geno wouldnt hit him and if he did Bowe would drop it

#1 Bronco's Fan
12-30-2012, 08:23 PM
Bowe for Decker straight up, otherwise suck it.

BossChief
12-30-2012, 08:24 PM
Bowe and Wallace have the same agent and Wallace has already said he expects to be paid like the third highest WR in the game. CJ signed for over 130 million and LF signed for well over 115 million.

Colts
Texans
Browns
Redskins
Rams
Jaguars
Jets

That's just the start of the list of teams that would LOVE to have a Dwayne Bowe.

Our only hope here is a new gm that makes Bowe, Albert and Colquit priorities.