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BossChief
10-20-2012, 12:42 AM
http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2013charlie.php

Kansas City Chiefs: Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
The Chiefs are a disgrace. Kansas City needs to clean house in the front office. Scott Pioli has had years to address the quarterback position, but has failed to land a good starter or capable backup. That has to change this offseason and Geno Smith would be a good place to start. He has completed 75.3 percent of his passes this season for 2,271 yards, 25 touchdowns and zero interceptions.

The 6-foot-3, 214-pounder has an excellent skill set. He is showing his intelligence and field vision by working through his progressions and looking off safeties. Smith has some natural accuracy with good arm strength to make all the throws. He can fire some fastballs into tight windows with phenomenal ball placement to hit receivers in stride.

Smith's plus mobility allows him to pick up first downs with his feet and bail out his offensive line. He will need to improve his footwork for the NFL. The senior needs to become more uniform with good feet to get in rhythm.

Smith had an excellent 2011 season for the Mountaineers, too. The junior completed 66 percent of his passes for 4,385 yards with 31 touchdowns and seven interceptions. He also ran for 180 yards and two scores. The West Virginia signal-caller played his heart out against LSU's talented defense with 463 yards passing.

Bump
10-20-2012, 12:48 AM
ITS OUR TIME!

Dayze
10-20-2012, 12:51 AM
I'd bet my spleen that we don't draft Geno....even if he's there/wherever we pick.

no fucking way. Chiefs are pussies. Always have, always will be.

BossChief
10-20-2012, 12:55 AM
FYI he also has Tyler Wilson dropping all the way to 20th overall and Bray going at 11.

Matt Barkley going first overall is a bit of a joke, though.

I think both Barkley and Wilson have hurt their stock thus far in 2012, but have plenty of time to rebound.

Bump
10-20-2012, 12:58 AM
with the #1 pick in the NFL draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select:

Barkevious Mingo of LSU



you guys have to know this is gonna happen. Pioli will never give up on Cassel.

KCtotheSB
10-20-2012, 01:01 AM
I don't give a shit if we end up having a mid-tier first round pick. These miserable fucks better find a way to move up and get Geno.

BigMeatballDave
10-20-2012, 01:02 AM
I'd bet my spleen that we don't draft Geno....even if he's there/wherever we pick.

no fucking way. Chiefs are pussies. Always have, always will be.

YOU RISK TAKER!

You can live without the spleen...

:)

RunKC
10-20-2012, 01:03 AM
While we're at it we should get one of Geno's receivers, Stedman Bailey or Tavon Austin.

Those guys are gonna be studs in the NFL.

L.A. Chieffan
10-20-2012, 01:08 AM
What would happen if Geno was on the board and Scott passed him up for a OL or a DB, something like that? Very bad things I'm thinking

Saccopoo
10-20-2012, 01:08 AM
While we're at it we should get one of Geno's receivers, Stedman Bailey or Tavon Austin.

Those guys are gonna be studs in the NFL.

They are studs because Geno is hitting them in stride 45 yards downfield.

Geno or bust.

Period.

Get Geno or get the fuck out.

Bump
10-20-2012, 01:09 AM
What would happen if Geno was on the board and Scott passed him up for a OL or a DB, something like that? Very bad things I'm thinking

it's gonna happen. CP Meltdown to the equivalent of a global apocalypse.

Saccopoo
10-20-2012, 01:10 AM
What would happen if Geno was on the board and Scott passed him up for a OL or a DB, something like that? Very bad things I'm thinking

I will drive to KC, drop my drawers and shit on the Arrowhead parking lot.

And then start reading a lot or something fucked up like that.

Dayze
10-20-2012, 01:11 AM
YOU RISK TAKER!

You can live without the spleen...

:)

well shit...
LMAO


I'd bet my.......hmmm...."special-fun-hand"


....sure as shit can't live without that.

RunKC
10-20-2012, 01:11 AM
They are studs because Geno is hitting them in stride 45 yards downfield.

Geno or bust.

Period.

Get Geno or get the **** out.

If we can't get Geno (because we're cursed and never get the #1 pick), I'd love Tyler Wilson.


Either way we better fucking draft a safety with our 2nd round pick. That position is loaded this year. Matt Elam, TJ McDonald, Eric Reid, Robert Lester. Holy shit man.

BossChief
10-20-2012, 01:12 AM
What would happen if Geno was on the board and Scott passed him up for a OL or a DB, something like that? Very bad things I'm thinkingIf he doesn't get fired, Pioli will trade down and take either

Star Loteioueetree

or

Landry Jones

Dayze
10-20-2012, 01:13 AM
If we can't get Geno (because we're cursed and never get the #1 pick), I'd love Tyler Wilson.


Either way we better ****ing draft a safety with our 2nd round pick. That position is loaded this year. Matt Elam, TJ McDonald, Eric Reid, Robert Lester. Holy shit man.

FYI. Chiefs will not draft a QB. Just letting you know now so you can stock up on bourbon.

Guru
10-20-2012, 01:15 AM
The draft party at the Arrowhead Practice Facility will entertaining as hell if they don't pick Geno if he is available.

The place erupted with boos when they picked Poe this year. I can only imagine what would happen if they didn't take a QB next year.

Dayze
10-20-2012, 01:18 AM
The draft party at the Arrowhead Practice Facility will entertaining as hell if they don't pick Geno if he is available.

The place erupted with boos when they picked Poe this year. I can only imagine what would happen if they didn't take a QB next year.

the free Snow Cones should take care of that.

Saccopoo
10-20-2012, 01:19 AM
If he doesn't get fired, Pioli will trade down and take either

Star Loteioueetree

or

Landry Jones

I'm not fucking kidding.

I will shit right in the middle of the parking lot.

That being said, we are going to lose Dorsey no matter what unless they trade him in the next couple of weeks for a used jock bag. If that happens, how many people around here would have loved to have seen Brockers on this team versus Poe?

And that being said, Lotulelei is a stud. The guy can absolutely dominate. However, he's not a five tech. Brockers was the absolute perfect five tech.

But, if it's not Geno, I will seriously save up the most epic, massive beer shit in the history of beer shits and let loose on the middle of Clark's parking lot, wipe my ass with one of my Chiefs hats, drop it on the muddy pile and walk away from this franchise forever.

Dayze
10-20-2012, 01:19 AM
the sad thing is, Pioli has Smith ranked at 54.

Guru
10-20-2012, 01:19 AM
the free Snow Cones should take care of that.

They can all throw them at screen when it is announced.

Dayze
10-20-2012, 01:20 AM
I'm not ****ing kidding.

I will shit right in the middle of the parking lot.

That being said, we are going to lose Dorsey no matter what unless they trade him in the next couple of weeks for a used jock bag. If that happens, how many people around here would have loved to have seen Brockers on this team versus Poe?

And that being said, Lotulelei is a stud. The guy can absolutely dominate. However, he's not a five tech. Brockers was the absolute perfect five tech.

But, if it's not Geno, I will seriously save up the most epic, massive beer shit in the history of beer shits and let loose on the middle of Clark's parking lot, wipe my ass with one of my Chiefs hats, drop it on the muddy pile and walk away from this franchise forever.

LMAO
Dude...that's the ultimate all-in bet.

Can I steal that? not your Poo, but the bet.

RunKC
10-20-2012, 01:22 AM
The draft party at the Arrowhead Practice Facility will entertaining as hell if they don't pick Geno if he is available.

The place erupted with boos when they picked Poe this year. I can only imagine what would happen if they didn't take a QB next year.

It would be just like this.

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Saccopoo
10-20-2012, 01:23 AM
LMAO
Dude...that's the ultimate all-in bet.

Can I steal that? not your Poo, but the bet.

It's not a bet.

I will shit right in the middle of the parking lot.

Shit right on Clarks asphalt mortuary.

The reestiest, stanking, runny beer shit of all beer shits.

Guaranteed.

RunKC
10-20-2012, 01:24 AM
With the first pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select..Star Lotulelei DT Utah


We all know it's gonna happen

Guru
10-20-2012, 01:26 AM
It would be just like this.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/RaYgGSHJ5hM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Nope. It will be worse than that.

That is what it looked like when we took Poe.

Saccopoo
10-20-2012, 01:27 AM
With the first pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select..Star Lotulelei DT Utah


We all know it's gonna happen

It's a better pick than Poe in all honesty.

However, since he fucking picked Poe this past draft, who knows.

All I know, if Geno Smith is available when the Chiefs pick, and they don't take him, I will hippo shit all over the middle of the parking lot.

Dayze
10-20-2012, 01:29 AM
It's not a bet.

I will shit right in the middle of the parking lot.

Shit right on Clarks asphalt mortuary.

The reestiest, stanking, runny beer shit of all beer shits.

Guaranteed.

I love you man.
LMAO

BossChief
10-20-2012, 01:30 AM
I'm not fucking kidding.

I will shit right in the middle of the parking lot.

That being said, we are going to lose Dorsey no matter what unless they trade him in the next couple of weeks for a used jock bag. If that happens, how many people around here would have loved to have seen Brockers on this team versus Poe?

And that being said, Lotulelei is a stud. The guy can absolutely dominate. However, he's not a five tech. Brockers was the absolute perfect five tech.

But, if it's not Geno, I will seriously save up the most epic, massive beer shit in the history of beer shits and let loose on the middle of Clark's parking lot, wipe my ass with one of my Chiefs hats, drop it on the muddy pile and walk away from this franchise forever.

It sucks because you know that's what this dickhole would do. There is no chance Pioli would take Geno Smith and we all know it. I've been saying that for a month now. He will trade down and take a DL and take Landry Jones by trading back into the first to take him.

the rest of us fans that are still hanging on can safely start to move on at that point because it will be obvious that Clark will have appointed Pioli the defacto owner and there will be no reason to care.

BTW...unless I missed it, Charlie doesn't even have Landry Jones mocked in the first 3 rounds. I'm glad these draftniks are finally catching up to what Ive been saying for over a full year. Once Broyles went down, Jones sank to the bottom of the aids ocean.

BossChief
10-20-2012, 01:33 AM
It's a better pick than Poe in all honesty.

However, since he fucking picked Poe this past draft, who knows.

All I know, if Geno Smith is available when the Chiefs pick, and they don't take him, I will hippo shit all over the middle of the parking lot.

The right thing that should have been done is us trading a measly 3rd rounder to move up to 6 and taken Tannehill. Then, we could have taken Star, Teo or a number of other players and have been much better in the long run. Bowe would probably be willing to stick around if that move had been made, too...but, nope...we get Poe and more than likely a guy like Landry Jones.

FML

AussieChiefsFan
10-20-2012, 01:36 AM
What would happen if Geno was on the board and Scott passed him up for a OL or a DB, something like that? Very bad things I'm thinking

It would be the end.

RunKC
10-20-2012, 01:37 AM
Ok on a serious note, there is hope that Pioli will take a QB in the first round.

I don't side with Pioli on anything, but I will here. In his interview with Petro, he said he hasn't really had an opportunity to draft a good QB so far. He said there are 1 or 2 that have been pretty good (Andy Dalton), but that's it.

I agree with him. Dirty Sanchez, Josh Freeman and Brandon Weeden aren't anything to write home about. Russell Wilson looks good, but I'd rather have a 1st round QB.
So basically Andy Dalton was it and I don't think anyone thought he would be as awesome as he is now.

We're gonna have a chance to draft Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson. If he somehow stays here and passes on them, he deserves to get dick punched repeatedly.

Saccopoo
10-20-2012, 01:37 AM
It sucks because you know that's what this dickhole would do. There is no chance Pioli would take Geno Smith and we all know it.

http://www.wittyworld.com/images/News%20Images/Javad.OceanOfTears.gif

Tribal Warfare
10-20-2012, 01:37 AM
It would be the end.

It will be the end if he survives this season without being fired.

WV
10-20-2012, 01:38 AM
All you Debbie's need to GTF out of here! We're getting GENO!

Tribal Warfare
10-20-2012, 01:40 AM
So basically Andy Dalton was it and I don't think anyone thought he would be as awesome as he is now.



I called it, if he was in the right situation he'd light it up.

Guru
10-20-2012, 01:40 AM
All you Debbie's need to GTF out of here! We're getting GENO!

Don't hold your breath on that.

Saccopoo
10-20-2012, 01:40 AM
All you Debbie's need to GTF out of here! We're getting GENO!

Because our new GM, Marc Ross, understands the importance of the QB, right? Right?

Right?

WV
10-20-2012, 01:41 AM
Don't hold your breath on that.

Gat Dammit....stop shitting all over our hope! Save it for the parking lot!

WV
10-20-2012, 01:42 AM
Because our new GM, Marc Ross, understands the importance of the QB, right? Right?

Right?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OXET0JKv5E8/Tzz3uLEme0I/AAAAAAAAEDU/cqdbe1SgSXw/s1600/correct.jpg

Saccopoo
10-20-2012, 01:42 AM
Gat Dammit....stop shitting all over our hope! Save it for the parking lot!

A big pile of steaming shit.

Right in the fucking middle of the parking lot.

Just ripping it loose.

Fuck you Chiefs if you don't draft Geno!

WV
10-20-2012, 01:44 AM
A big pile of steaming shit.

Right in the ****ing middle of the parking lot.

Just ripping it loose.

**** you Chiefs if you don't draft Geno!

Amen.

BossChief
10-20-2012, 01:47 AM
Ok on a serious note, there is hope that Pioli will take a QB in the first round.

I don't side with Pioli on anything, but I will here. In his interview with Petro, he said he hasn't really had an opportunity to draft a good QB so far. He said there are 1 or 2 that have been pretty good (Andy Dalton), but that's it.

I agree with him. Dirty Sanchez, Josh Freeman and Brandon Weeden aren't anything to write home about. Russell Wilson looks good, but I'd rather have a 1st round QB.
So basically Andy Dalton was it and I don't think anyone thought he would be as awesome as he is now.

We're gonna have a chance to draft Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson. If he somehow stays here and passes on them, he deserves to get dick punched repeatedly.
STFU

The guy has no balls to take a fucking chance and is clueless in regards to drafting/evaluating quarterbacks.

All you need to know is that the POS drafted Matt Cassel even though he never started at QB in college...then got to see him every day in NE for 4 years and made the decision to trade a premium pick for him and give him the biggest deal in franchise history.

Kevin Occonnel (3rd round)
Rohan Davey (4th round)
Cliff Kingsbury
Matt Cassel

The guy didnt want to draft Tom Brady, either...so dont try to put that fake feather in his cap.

The guy took a DL at 3rd overall that will be cut before his rookie contract years are over and took a second team division 2 DL at 11 when a team was shopping a franchise QB for a premium of a third rounder to move up and Pioli passed.

BossChief
10-20-2012, 01:49 AM
All you Debbie's need to GTF out of here! We're getting GENO!

If Pioli is fired, absolutely.

AussieChiefsFan
10-20-2012, 01:49 AM
Must happen.

RunKC
10-20-2012, 01:53 AM
STFU

The guy has no balls to take a ****ing chance and is clueless in regards to drafting/evaluating quarterbacks.

All you need to know is that the POS drafted Matt Cassel even though he never started at QB in college...then got to see him every day in NE for 4 years and made the decision to trade a premium pick for him and give him the biggest deal in franchise history.

Kevin Occonnel (3rd round)
Rohan Davey (4th round)
Cliff Kingsbury
Matt Cassel

The guy didnt want to draft Tom Brady, either...so dont try to put that fake feather in his cap.

The guy took a DL at 3rd overall that will be cut before his rookie contract years are over and took a second team division 2 DL at 11 when a team was shopping a franchise QB for a premium of a third rounder to move up and Pioli passed.

I agree, but the scary part about this is that if Geno comes in next year and Bowe is still on the team, we're a playoff contender. Good QB's make HC's and GM's look way better than they are.
Even with Romeo here next year, I bet Geno would get us to 8 or 9 wins. He's that good and the biggest reason we are 1-5 is because Matt Cassel is that bad.

BossChief
10-20-2012, 01:58 AM
If we are in position to draft Geno Smith, Pioli and Crennel are BOTH gone.

RunKC
10-20-2012, 02:00 AM
If we are in position to draft Geno Smith, Pioli and Crennel are BOTH gone.

I hope with every being in my soul that this is true, but I won't believe it until Clark pulls the trigger.

AussieChiefsFan
10-20-2012, 02:01 AM
If we are in position to draft Geno Smith, Pioli and Crennel are BOTH gone.

Yea, If we have the #1 or even a pick in the top 3, they'd ALL be gone by draft day.

Guru
10-20-2012, 02:03 AM
Gat Dammit....stop shitting all over our hope! Save it for the parking lot!

When have the Chiefs EVER given you reason to hope about anything? Just sayin.:D

Death2CasselFans
10-20-2012, 02:07 AM
What would happen if Geno was on the board and Scott passed him up for a OL or a DB, something like that? Very bad things I'm thinking

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs4/4117580_o.gif

AussieChiefsFan
10-20-2012, 02:08 AM
http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs4/4117580_o.gif

And nothing less.

Guru
10-20-2012, 02:13 AM
Wonder if they will even throw the STH draft party this year. If they don't, then you know they are NOT taking a QB. LMAO

NJChiefsFan
10-20-2012, 02:24 AM
Wonder if they will even throw the STH draft party this year. If they don't, then you know they are NOT taking a QB. LMAO

While not taking a QB would probably drive me more towards not giving a shit anymore, I would love to see a riot happen at that draft party. They have enough warning with recent events to just not throw it if they aren't taking a QB. It actually could be a decent indicator.

Fish
10-20-2012, 02:26 AM
I don't know... sounds risky....

bevischief
10-20-2012, 02:38 AM
Not with these a**clowns in place not going going to happen.

Unsmooth-Moment
10-20-2012, 02:40 AM
Geno or bust

NJChiefsFan
10-20-2012, 02:40 AM
Not with these a**clowns in place not going going to happen.

Well hopefully, if you are in a position to take Geno, that means Pioli took the fall for the horrible record. Hopefully.

keg in kc
10-20-2012, 02:43 AM
It ain't happening. Not here. Hope is a lie.

RunKC
10-20-2012, 03:05 AM
Like I said, I'll believe it when I see it.

I'll believe that Clark isn't like his father when he actually fires Pioli and I'll believe that this franchise will draft a first round QB when it actually happens.

Rausch
10-20-2012, 04:09 AM
It ain't happening. Not here. Hope is a lie.

As valuable as a top 3 pick is now I find it hard to believe Pioli wouldn't trade down...

mdchiefsfan
10-20-2012, 04:20 AM
What would happen if Geno was on the board and Scott passed him up for a OL or a DB, something like that? Very bad things I'm thinking

http://gifsoup.com/view4/1756903/amazing-mushroom-cloud-o.gif

mdchiefsfan
10-20-2012, 04:25 AM
What will be truly hilarious is if Pioli drafts Geno, he will never receive credit for it. CP will be saying shit like, "The 'Chiefs Way' is Geno Smith, not Pioli." It's very true, but none-the-less will be quite amusing; that a man so desperate for approval will never receive it here, if he is still here.

Guru
10-20-2012, 04:49 AM
http://gifsoup.com/view4/1756903/amazing-mushroom-cloud-o.gif

Think bigger

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100305063032/halo/images/9/98/Unknown_planet_blowing_up.jpg

mdchiefsfan
10-20-2012, 04:50 AM
Think bigger

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100305063032/halo/images/9/98/Unknown_planet_blowing_up.jpg

:clap:

Guru
10-20-2012, 04:51 AM
What will be truly hilarious is if Pioli drafts Geno, he will never receive credit for it. CP will be saying shit like, "The 'Chiefs Way' is Geno Smith, not Pioli." It's very true, but none-the-less will be quite amusing; that a man so desperate for approval will never receive it here, if he is still here.

Well, what good is drafting Geno if he isn't going to give him any tools to work with. Look at all of his drafts man.

Plus, he won't draft Geno.

mdchiefsfan
10-20-2012, 04:56 AM
Well, what good is drafting Geno if he isn't going to give him any tools to work with. Look at all of his drafts man.

Plus, he won't draft Geno.

Look at RGIII with merely Josh Morgan, Leonard Hankerson, and Santana Moss (con't say merely about him though) in the slot. Not to mention his depleted O-line. He does have Alfred Morris but overall he is lighting it up. With this O-line, our RB, even if its Steve Breaston and Jon Baldwin we could make some noise. The QB makes the receiver not the other way around.

I really hope he isn't here next year so we won't have to even worry about his drafts anymore, but I just have a bad feeling about it.

EDIT: I should add in Fred Davis as one of RGIII's targets as well.

AussieChiefsFan
10-20-2012, 04:58 AM
Think bigger

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100305063032/halo/images/9/98/Unknown_planet_blowing_up.jpg

Think Even bigger

http://www.newswise.com/images/uploads/2009/11/2/CigarGalaxy.jpg

AussieChiefsFan
10-20-2012, 04:59 AM
Look at RGIII with merely Josh Morgan, Leonard Hankerson, and Santana Moss (con't say merely about him though) in the slot. Not to mention his depleted O-line. He does have Alfred Morris but overall he is lighting it up. With this O-line, our RB, even if its Steve Breaston and Jon Baldwin we could make some noise. The QB makes the receiver not the other way around.

This is what I was saying in another thread. IMO KC (as far as players go) is a dream situation for a high 1st round QB. The Chiefs have many more pieces in place (again, as far as players go) than the typical front runner for the #1 pick.

Guru
10-20-2012, 05:21 AM
Think Even bigger

http://www.newswise.com/images/uploads/2009/11/2/CigarGalaxy.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ZYJDZ.gif

AussieChiefsFan
10-20-2012, 05:23 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ZYJDZ.gif

LMAO Best GIF!

mdchiefsfan
10-20-2012, 05:39 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ZYJDZ.gif

ROFL never fails

the Talking Can
10-20-2012, 06:23 AM
The Chiefs are a disgrace. Kansas City needs to clean house in the front office. Scott Pioli has had years to address the quarterback position, but has failed to land a good starter or capable backup.

http://internetjedi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/must-not-fap1.jpg

Art Vader
10-20-2012, 06:42 AM
poor coaching and lack of quality player development along with KC being very low on the list of destinations for outsiders with real football skills to want to dedicate their time... I'm gonna go ahead and say it doesn't matter wtf they draft.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-20-2012, 07:44 AM
I remember thinking my first car was going to be a Porsche as well, it turned out to be a 73 Impala. I was disappoint.

SNR
10-20-2012, 10:44 AM
Everyone needs to shut the fuck up.

We're getting Geno.

So calm the fuck down, wait out the season, and then start the countdown until draft day

Mr. Laz
10-20-2012, 10:48 AM
I'll take some bets that the Chiefs don't pass on Geno, if he's there ... UNLESS they decide the like Barkley better.

getting the 1st pick and selecting Barkley instead of Geno isn't 'passing' imo.

SNR
10-20-2012, 10:50 AM
I'll take some bets that the Chiefs don't pass on Geno, if he's there ... UNLESS they decide the like Barkley better.

getting the 1st pick and selecting Barkley instead of Geno isn't 'passing' imo.

Well, you're a fucking idiot, so there ya go.

Dicky McElephant
10-20-2012, 10:53 AM
Oh....and Q.

Dicky McElephant
10-20-2012, 10:53 AM
I'll take some bets that the Chiefs don't pass on Geno, if he's there ... UNLESS they decide the like Barkley better.

getting the 1st pick and selecting Barkley instead of Geno isn't 'passing' imo.

The fuck it isn't.

Dicky McElephant
10-20-2012, 10:53 AM
This is not a Andrew Luck/Robert Griffin 1A or 1B argument.

Geno Smith is clearly #1 and Barkley is clearly #2.

O.city
10-20-2012, 10:54 AM
I could actually see what Laz said playing out.


Pioli might think that Barkley can reach his ceiling faster, be it lower than Geno's, and will help him win back fans.

SNR
10-20-2012, 10:54 AM
This is not a Andrew Luck/Robert Griffin 1A or 1B argument.

Geno Smith is clearly #1 and Barkley is clearly #2.

And Tyler Wilson is the #4b used cum rag

chiefscafan
10-20-2012, 10:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC
So basically Andy Dalton was it and I don't think anyone thought he would be as awesome as he is now.
I called it, if he was in the right situation he'd light it up.



I have to say I've been right bout dalton too I kept saying chiefs should pick him in that draft I would of taken him over Baldwin.

SNR
10-20-2012, 10:59 AM
I could actually see what Laz said playing out.


Pioli might think that Barkley can reach his ceiling faster, be it lower than Geno's, and will help him win back fans.

That's still inexcusable and unacceptable. Completely. Consider me 100% sickened if that's what plays out.

It's not good enough to just draft a QB, any ol' QB when the Chiefs are this fucking terrible. I expect that the Chiefs will probably be picking #1 overall this year, and when they do, Geno Smith is the QB they have to take. This isn't a matter of preference, or "I like what this guy does better than this guy."

I told myself earlier that if Pioli was still here I'd quit the team. No, that's actually not it. I'll stick around and give Pioli a shot to draft Geno Smith. If he doesn't, THEN I'm fucking out the door.

O.city
10-20-2012, 11:01 AM
Smith's ceiling is potentially Aaron Rodgers. Or atleast that's what I've read from multiple people.


With Barkley, I think the absolute best you get is Matt Ryan.

Not that that is necessarily a bad thing, but if you have your pick of the litter, you go with the highest ceiling guy.

Canofbier
10-20-2012, 11:05 AM
FYI he also has Tyler Wilson dropping all the way to 20th overall and Bray going at 11.

Matt Barkley going first overall is a bit of a joke, though.

I think both Barkley and Wilson have hurt their stock thus far in 2012, but have plenty of time to rebound.

Even if we have some kind of miracle turn-around season, it seems like there should be a legitimate QB prospect available where we pick. It would be an absolute joke if we don't come out of this next draft with one.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-20-2012, 11:14 AM
Everyone needs to shut the **** up.

We're getting Geno.

So calm the **** down, wait out the season, and then start the countdown until draft day

I hate losing. It sucks. But what I do to make it all better is I think about the possibility of getting a player like Geno Smith or Matt Barkley (preferably Smith) then I get excited knowing that it's about to get better. If we are drafting in the top three in April I'll be so excited knowing that this franchise is about to get on track I won't be able to sleep all leading up to the draft and the rest of the offseason. As much as losing sucks this is what has been needed for a long time for us. Every day that goes by is another day closer to change and renewed optimism for this franchise. There's a gleam men...a gleam.................................let's get the gleam alright. lol

boogblaster
10-20-2012, 11:15 AM
we need a QB .. but needs are LBs and pass-rushers and some decent back-ups .....

Brock
10-20-2012, 11:17 AM
we need a QB .. but needs are LBs and pass-rushers and some decent back-ups .....

what?

O.city
10-20-2012, 11:22 AM
Don't sit here and say we are years away from anything.

If you draft a franchise QB, resign your own fa's, hire a new GM and coaching staff that knows what the fuck is goin on, you are a year away.


In today's NFL it doesnt take years to build.

With our core players, 1 good draft, 1 good free agent period, a GM that knows what the hell is going on and a good coaching staff and see what happens.

TBH, this is something that isn't really being talked about that should be and is a MAJOR Major firing point of Pioli.

Even the proven talent on this team is underperforming. DJ, Flowers, Hali, Bowe, Charles etc have had flashes but they've been inconsistent.

The coaching on this team is absolutely awful.

So, start new and fresh top down.


And that starts with Geno.

milkman
10-20-2012, 11:25 AM
what?

My dumbass decoder ring translates that post to, we still have the same exact needs we had 4 years ago.

chiefscafan
10-20-2012, 11:30 AM
So true we aren't any better really than 4 yrs ago that's why pioli must go.



I'm really scared that if he's here he spins some crap that cassel just needs more time in the pocket. If he had more time it would just take longer for him to crap his pants lol.

Chiefs Pantalones
10-20-2012, 11:33 AM
Don't sit here and say we are years away from anything.

If you draft a franchise QB, resign your own fa's, hire a new GM and coaching staff that knows what the **** is goin on, you are a year away.


In today's NFL it doesnt take years to build.

With our core players, 1 good draft, 1 good free agent period, a GM that knows what the hell is going on and a good coaching staff and see what happens.

TBH, this is something that isn't really being talked about that should be and is a MAJOR Major firing point of Pioli.

Even the proven talent on this team is underperforming. DJ, Flowers, Hali, Bowe, Charles etc have had flashes but they've been inconsistent.

The coaching on this team is absolutely awful.

So, start new and fresh top down.


And that starts with Geno.

Drafting a QB high isn't like it used to be. College QBs are more ready for the NFL now than ever before. Sitting a QB for a year these days will get you fired. The fans want the investment on the field NOW and so should the owner. It's a win-win situation. More ticket sales to see the player, on the job training by the QB gets the development period started right away. The fans will be more patient if their team is losing playing the high pick instead wondering what could be going on if the QB is playing.

The question is do we want Pioli and this coaching staff being in charge of drafting our QB? Hell no. He doesn't believe in drafting a QB high anyway and his coaching staff he has assembled rival the three stooges.

mdchiefsfan
10-20-2012, 11:37 AM
Drafting a QB high isn't like it used to be. College QBs are more ready for the NFL now than ever before. Sitting a QB for a year these days will get you fired. The fans want the investment on the field NOW and so should the owner. It's a win-win situation. More ticket sales to see the player, on the job training by the QB gets the development period started right away. The fans will be more patient if their team is losing playing the high pick instead wondering what could be going on if the QB is playing.

The question is do we want Pioli and this coaching staff being in charge of drafting our QB? Hell no. He doesn't believe in drafting a QB high anyway and his coaching staff he has assembled rival the three stooges.

I wouldn't mind if and only if Pioli picks him and stays, but I damn sure don't want Zorn, Crennel, or Daboll getting their hands on him.

GoChiefz
10-20-2012, 11:42 AM
We wont draft a QB next year just watch Matt will still be here.

SNR
10-20-2012, 11:46 AM
We wont draft a QB next year just watch Matt will still be here.

Clay mult?

Bewbies
10-20-2012, 11:46 AM
We wont draft a QB next year just watch Matt will still be here.

Welcome to the planet, fuck you.

milkman
10-20-2012, 11:50 AM
I wouldn't mind if and only if Pioli picks him and stays, but I damn sure don't want Zorn, Crennel, or Daboll getting their hands on him.

If Pioli isn't fired, then I will be hard pressed to care what else this fucked franchise does.

CoMoChief
10-20-2012, 11:52 AM
Not drafting Geno Smith when he's there available for the pickins would be the FINAL straw for me as a Chiefs fan.

I'd start rooting for Chicago.

Bewbies
10-20-2012, 11:54 AM
I see KC like San Fran was a few years ago with Herm Jr at coach. Get our current mouth breathers in the front office and coaching staff out and replaced with competent NFL talent, draft Geno Smith and all of the sudden we'd look good.

qabbaan
10-20-2012, 12:31 PM
It's stupid for us to sit here and say, "if they don't draft this one particular player I am done with them."

If they drafted Barkley first, ok. If they draft any QB in the first round I am probably fine with whomever they choose, whomever they feel has the best chance to be a Super Bowl winning QB someday. I could even be ok with them moving down and generating another first round pick or package of picks as long as they still draft whatever QB they feel is their best franchise QB target.

The point, whomever the GM is, is that Cassel is gone and we start over with a true franchise QB candidate.

milkman
10-20-2012, 12:44 PM
It's stupid for us to sit here and say, "if they don't draft this one particular player I am done with them."

If they drafted Barkley first, ok. If they draft any QB in the first round I am probably fine with whomever they choose, whomever they feel has the best chance to be a Super Bowl winning QB someday. I could even be ok with them moving down and generating another first round pick or package of picks as long as they still draft whatever QB they feel is their best franchise QB target.

The point, whomever the GM is, is that Cassel is gone and we start over with a true franchise QB candidate.

If Pioli is still in charge, I have no faith in his ability to identify a franchise QB in a scenario where he trades down.

And the bottom line is that QB is the single most important position in all of teams sports.

You don't trade down and take the next best, or the third best, available prospect.

You take the best available.

qabbaan
10-20-2012, 12:57 PM
If Pioli is still in charge, I have no faith in his ability to identify a franchise QB in a scenario where he trades down.

And the bottom line is that QB is the single most important position in all of teams sports.

You don't trade down and take the next best, or the third best, available prospect.

You take the best available.

The supposed best QB in 2011 was Cam Newton. I bet a lot of Panthers fans wish they'd have moved down about ten spots and taken one of the other three QBs that went in the top half of the first. Not many years ago Alex Smith was the consensus #1, while Aaron Rodgers slid down the draft board. Even Stafford - he's an alright QB, but has proven to be injury prone and not worth the #1 that was invested in him.

Your point about not trusting Pioli is well taken. However, what I am saying is that I am fine with (generic replacement GM) deciding that they think Barkley (or whomever) has a better chance to win Super Bowls and be in the Hall of Fame someday, and taking that guy instead. It could be because of durability, makeup, accuracy, intangibles, whatever. The best QBs often don't have the best measurable or college numbers.

Luck could turn out to win more Super Bowls than Griffin. It could also turn out the other way. GMs have to make their bet on who has the makeup to lead a team to that, not who looks like they will put up the best numbers in the regular season.

The point isn't "We must remain in our original draft position and pick Mel Kiper's best QB available." It's that we get the best Super Bowl QB prospect.

Go back to Newton, or even Russell a few years ago. You could have sold those guys on draft day as #1 overall picks, but not as the guys most likely in the first round to win Super Bowls. Leading a franchise to greatness is about more than arm strength or how many TDs you threw on college DBs.

BossChief
10-20-2012, 01:01 PM
If Pioli isn't fired, then I will be hard pressed to care what else this fucked franchise does.If he drafts Geno Smith and cuts Cassel and finds a competant head coach, I'd be fine with him staying.

The chances of all that happening is slim to none, though.
The supposed best QB in 2011 was Cam Newton. I bet a lot of Panthers fans wish they'd have moved down about ten spots and taken one of the other three QBs that went in the top half of the first. Not many years ago Alex Smith was the consensus #1, while Aaron Rodgers slid down the draft board. Even Stafford - he's an alright QB, but has proven to be injury prone and not worth the #1 that was invested in him.

Your point about not trusting Pioli is well taken. However, what I am saying is that I am fine with (generic replacement GM) deciding that they think Barkley (or whomever) has a better chance to win Super Bowls and be in the Hall of Fame someday, and taking that guy instead. It could be because of durability, makeup, accuracy, intangibles, whatever. The best QBs often don't have the best measurable or college numbers.

Luck could turn out to win more Super Bowls than Griffin. It could also turn out the other way. GMs have to make their bet on who has the makeup to lead a team to that, not who looks like they will put up the best numbers in the regular season.

The point isn't "We must remain in our original draft position and pick Mel Kiper's best QB available." It's that we get the best Super Bowl QB prospect.

Go back to Newton, or even Russell a few years ago. You could have sold those guys on draft day as #1 overall picks, but not as the guys most likely in the first round to win Super Bowls. Leading a franchise to greatness is about more than arm strength or how many TDs you threw on college DBs.
This whole post is dumb as shit.

qabbaan
10-20-2012, 01:02 PM
This whole post is dumb as shit.

Says the guy with the Ricky Stanzi avatar.

O.city
10-20-2012, 01:03 PM
Yeah stafford is over rated



Said no one ever

Chiefs Pantalones
10-20-2012, 01:05 PM
IMO, you take the best QB available where you draft at. Don't trade down to pick up some more draft picks. Take the best. Just me though. Now it's up to the Chiefs which one they think is best.

BossChief
10-20-2012, 01:10 PM
Says the guy with the Ricky Stanzi avatar.

Sick burn

If we are talking about lesser positions like 5 th receiver or 3rd qb..."good enough" is a good argument...not when you are talking franchise quarterback.

Dumbass

Reaper16
10-20-2012, 01:13 PM
Yeah stafford is over rated



Said no one ever

I think at least one person said it. It was just a few posts ago.

Dicky McElephant
10-20-2012, 01:13 PM
The supposed best QB in 2011 was Cam Newton. I bet a lot of Panthers fans wish they'd have moved down about ten spots and taken one of the other three QBs that went in the top half of the first. Not many years ago Alex Smith was the consensus #1, while Aaron Rodgers slid down the draft board. Even Stafford - he's an alright QB, but has proven to be injury prone and not worth the #1 that was invested in him.

Your point about not trusting Pioli is well taken. However, what I am saying is that I am fine with (generic replacement GM) deciding that they think Barkley (or whomever) has a better chance to win Super Bowls and be in the Hall of Fame someday, and taking that guy instead. It could be because of durability, makeup, accuracy, intangibles, whatever. The best QBs often don't have the best measurable or college numbers.

Luck could turn out to win more Super Bowls than Griffin. It could also turn out the other way. GMs have to make their bet on who has the makeup to lead a team to that, not who looks like they will put up the best numbers in the regular season.

The point isn't "We must remain in our original draft position and pick Mel Kiper's best QB available." It's that we get the best Super Bowl QB prospect.

Go back to Newton, or even Russell a few years ago. You could have sold those guys on draft day as #1 overall picks, but not as the guys most likely in the first round to win Super Bowls. Leading a franchise to greatness is about more than arm strength or how many TDs you threw on college DBs.

ROFL.....you'd be hard pressed to find a Panthers fan who would want anyone but Cam Newton. The reason the Panthers suck is because they have no defense and they're GM was retarded enough to put $70-$80 million into 3 RBs......all while not finding viable receiving targets for Newton.

Bill Brasky
10-20-2012, 01:25 PM
Not drafting Geno Smith when he's there available for the pickins would be the FINAL straw for me as a Chiefs fan.

This has honestly crossed my mind. I'll wait until the entire offseason is over, but I'm going to re-evaluate my nfl affiliation if the QB isn't adequately addressed. Not that anyone cares, but lets face it, the chiefs aren't even fun to watch.

I *really* hope we take Geno, or at least a QB higher that the sixth round...

milkman
10-20-2012, 01:38 PM
The supposed best QB in 2011 was Cam Newton. I bet a lot of Panthers fans wish they'd have moved down about ten spots and taken one of the other three QBs that went in the top half of the first. Not many years ago Alex Smith was the consensus #1, while Aaron Rodgers slid down the draft board. Even Stafford - he's an alright QB, but has proven to be injury prone and not worth the #1 that was invested in him.

Your point about not trusting Pioli is well taken. However, what I am saying is that I am fine with (generic replacement GM) deciding that they think Barkley (or whomever) has a better chance to win Super Bowls and be in the Hall of Fame someday, and taking that guy instead. It could be because of durability, makeup, accuracy, intangibles, whatever. The best QBs often don't have the best measurable or college numbers.

Luck could turn out to win more Super Bowls than Griffin. It could also turn out the other way. GMs have to make their bet on who has the makeup to lead a team to that, not who looks like they will put up the best numbers in the regular season.

The point isn't "We must remain in our original draft position and pick Mel Kiper's best QB available." It's that we get the best Super Bowl QB prospect.

Go back to Newton, or even Russell a few years ago. You could have sold those guys on draft day as #1 overall picks, but not as the guys most likely in the first round to win Super Bowls. Leading a franchise to greatness is about more than arm strength or how many TDs you threw on college DBs.

I don't have access to these guys like scouts and GMs, so I can only speculate about leadership and character based on what I see from their actions on the field.

Newton appears to have a ton of charisma, but he also appears to be somewhat immature.

I also know that he worked hard to cement his spot as the #1 overall going into the draft.

When he grows up, with his charisma, this is a guy that should have the ability to lead, and lead is the correct word, his team to mutiple SBs.

I wouldn't take any of the QBs in that class ahead of him, and Panther fans would be stupid to quit on him this early in his career.

When I watch Geno Smith, I see a guy with a lot of talent, and I also hear him when he deflects praise and turns it to his receivers.

I also read and hear about the amount of work he puts into his game.

That suggests leadership, character, and team player to me.

That's a guy you don't pass on.

Brock
10-20-2012, 01:40 PM
Yeah stafford is over rated



Said no one ever

zilla said it about a hundred times.

BossChief
10-20-2012, 01:47 PM
I don't have access to these guys like scouts and GMs, so I can only speculate about leadership and character based on what I see from their actions on the field.

Newton appears to have a ton of charisma, but he also appears to be somewhat immature.

I also know that he worked hard to cement his spot as the #1 overall going into the draft.

When he grows up, with his charisma, this is a guy that should have the ability to lead, and lead is the correct word, his team to mutiple SBs.

I wouldn't take any of the QBs in that class ahead of him, and Panther fans would be stupid to quit on him this early in his career.

When I watch Geno Smith, I see a guy with a lot of talent, and I also hear him when he deflects praise and turns it to his receivers.

I also read and hear about the amount of work he puts into his game.

That suggests leadership, character, and team player to me.

That's a guy you don't pass on.

Outside the park homerun.

SNR
10-20-2012, 02:11 PM
The point isn't "We must remain in our original draft position and pick Mel Kiper's best QB available." It's that we get the best Super Bowl QB prospect.
And that's Geno Smith.

So what's the point of the rest of your post?

SNR
10-20-2012, 03:12 PM
Is qabbaan seriously suggesting that the Panthers should picked one of those other shitty shmucks rather than Newton?

"You shouldn't pick Mel Kiper's best available QB. You should pick the guy who can lead you to a championship"

What the fuck does that even mean? Are you saying only Mel Kiper and other draft gurus on ESPN are the ones who think Geno Smith should go #1 overall? Or are you saying Geno Smith is less likely to win a Super Bowl than Barkley or Wilson?

I don't fucking understand it, but of all the possible combinations I've looked into, they're all fucking stupid.

the Talking Can
10-20-2012, 03:17 PM
QBs make chiefs fans say weird things

JASONSAUTO
10-20-2012, 03:33 PM
Idiocy rules chiefsplanet lately
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evolve27
10-20-2012, 04:16 PM
This has honestly crossed my mind. I'll wait until the entire offseason is over, but I'm going to re-evaluate my nfl affiliation if the QB isn't adequately addressed. Not that anyone cares, but lets face it, the chiefs aren't even fun to watch.

I *really* hope we take Geno, or at least a QB higher that the sixth round...

I care.

MahiMike
10-20-2012, 06:02 PM
LOL, my 2 teams picking 1 and 2.