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Brainiac
10-20-2012, 09:52 PM
Who would have thought that a 69 year old coach could come out of retirement and immediately rebuild his former team back to their former glory days? I know I didn't think he could do it.

What Bill Snyder did at K-State was amazing when he was originally hired back in 1989, and it's equally amazing that he could duplicate that success when he came back in 2009. He never won the national championship, but I think the K-State fans are pretty happy he came back to try again.

Someone else is 69 right now.

Just sayin.

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Dallas Chief
10-20-2012, 09:54 PM
This should go over well...

Brainiac
10-20-2012, 10:00 PM
This should go over well...
Oh, I know. The Marty haters will lower the boom any minute.

They forget how much fun it was to be a Chiefs fan when Marty was the head coach. I miss those days. :(

Dallas Chief
10-20-2012, 10:01 PM
Shhhh don't tell anyone, but I miss the DV days even more. :\

dallaschiefsfan
10-20-2012, 10:04 PM
Vermeil is 75...Jimmy Johnson is 69...I'm sure we could dig up some other old dudes that had some success. Or not...

Brainiac
10-20-2012, 10:07 PM
101-58-1

BillSelfsTrophycase
10-20-2012, 10:07 PM
He still sees the gleam

Reerun_KC
10-20-2012, 10:07 PM
Oh, I know. The Marty haters will lower the boom any minute.

They forget how much fun it was to be a Chiefs fan when Marty was the head coach. I miss those days. :(

It was awesome as long as we didnt make the playoffs. Martha was fantastic when it didn't matter. Atrocious when you wanted to be a real contender.

Reerun_KC
10-20-2012, 10:08 PM
101-58-1

5-15

Bump
10-20-2012, 10:10 PM
hahaha

69

hahaha

DaneMcCloud
10-20-2012, 10:19 PM
:Lin:

Brainiac
10-20-2012, 10:20 PM
5-15
How many playoff games has this team won since Marty left?

Hint #1: He left 14 years ago.

Hint #2: 5 playoff wins in 10 years is better than ZERO playoff wins in 14 years.

tk13
10-20-2012, 10:20 PM
With the UFL folding, Kurt Schottenheimer should be available.

Brainiac
10-20-2012, 10:21 PM
With the UFL folding, Kurt Schottenheimer should be available.
Well, Marty's team did win the UFL championship last year.

Not Kurt's.

ChiefsCountry
10-20-2012, 10:23 PM
Your old girlfirend was fun, but that was the past. No need to reopen the relationship.

Mr. Laz
10-20-2012, 10:25 PM
marty did say recently that he left KC too soon.

:fire:

Brainiac
10-20-2012, 10:35 PM
marty did say recently that he left KC too soon.

:fire:
Actually, when he left it really was time for him to go. He had 9 good years, and then both he and the team sucked in his last year.

But I knew at the time that one day most of us would look back on those days and wish for just a little bit of fun again. Right now I just want to put a bag over my head like the fans of the Ain'ts and the Dolts used to do.

Reerun_KC
10-20-2012, 10:39 PM
How many playoff games has this team won since Marty left?

Hint #1: He left 14 years ago.

Hint #2: 5 playoff wins in 10 years is better than ZERO playoff wins in 14 years.

ROFL

Brainiac
10-20-2012, 11:18 PM
ROFL
Are you saying zero playoff wins in 14 years IS better than 5 playoff wins in 10 years?

KILLER_CLOWN
10-20-2012, 11:20 PM
Shhhh don't tell anyone, but I miss the DV days even more. :\

Yessir but i'm sure he's senile by now.

AustinChief
10-20-2012, 11:27 PM
No No No, you are interpreting this wrong... Bill Snyder is one of the great coaches because he is from St Joe... we just need to find a St Joe boy to coach the Chiefs!

Chris Tabor for Chiefs head coach! (well, at least our special teams would improve! and he is a former QB so he understands the importance of that position...)

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/coaches/chris-tabor/3949ec45-873c-4216-ae50-f0fb6f61b10e

DTLB58
10-20-2012, 11:29 PM
ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo

The Big 12 featured more touchdowns (48) than punts (47) on Saturday.

TheGuardian
10-20-2012, 11:38 PM
I think it's funny when a fan calls it "glory years" with zero national championships. hur hur hur.

RockChalk
10-21-2012, 01:30 AM
Thing is, I walked into this thread thinking it would be a "celebration" of Bill Snyder. It's not even close. In fact, Marty, couldn't hold Bill's jock strap. As a KU fan, it pains me to say that, but he is a legit a coach as these parts (the KC area) has ever seen.

I doubted that old man from the second he took over his second run with KSU. But my god, he can coach.

mikey23545
10-21-2012, 07:36 AM
Oh, I know. The Marty haters will lower the boom any minute.

They forget how much fun it was to be a Chiefs fan when Marty was the head coach. I miss those days. :(

There was nothing better than Raider week when Marty was coach...:evil:

I miss the feeling that I had every week, that no matter who we were playing we had a great chance at winning, and a lot of weeks I knew we were going to win.

There's a few whiny ****s on here that like to bitch about Marty's postseason record, and of course, we would all have liked to have had a couple of Super Bowl wins in that era...But to pretend that all the playoff losses can be laid at Marty's doorstep is ridiculous. He was one of the most hard luck playoff coaches I've ever seen.

And of course the most accomplished QB he ever had to work with in his time at KC was a 90 year old Montana...

Molitoth
10-21-2012, 07:54 AM
I wonder how Snyder would do coaching a modern day NFL team...

Saulbadguy
10-21-2012, 08:01 AM
I wonder how Snyder would do coaching a modern day NFL team...

He would be a good offensive coordinator.

Other than that, bad. He doesn't have the mindset (or desire) to deal with an NFL roster.

bevischief
10-21-2012, 08:02 AM
How much did you drink last night?

Saulbadguy
10-21-2012, 08:06 AM
How much did you drink last night?

The build up for games like this kill my nerves, so I don't drink before or during them. Thought about cracking a celebratory Weihenstephaner after the game but went to bed instead.

Gonzo
10-21-2012, 08:07 AM
Fuck, at this point I don't give a flying fuck. Marty, Cowher, Vermeil, Haley, anything...
This franchise is a fucking laughing stock. Imagine what a real coach could do with the talent on this team. Marty would have the defense ranked the top ten...

As far a Snyder goes... He may go down as one of the top ten coaches in CFB history if his team keeps playing like this. I've never seen anything like it. I was skeptical when he came back. I thought there was a good chance he'd tarnish his rep and be forced out by 2013. Man, he is (IMO) the greatest coach I have ever seen in CFB in the last 20 years at least. Put that program back in contention two years, then have them fighting for a National Championship in three? Amazing.

WhiteWhale
10-21-2012, 08:21 AM
Marty has a short shelf life so there's no chance he'd be here 10 years. Maybe 5.

Hell, I wouldn't be pissed, and I'll tell you why... Marty knows how to build teams and he knows how to get to the playoffs. Does he struggle to win there? Obviously that is well known.

However Marty turns bad teams into teams that win. After 4-5 years he'd ride off into the sunset and as long as we don't 'Norv Turner' our coach selection we'll be positioned to win for a while.

Still, the best path would just be hiring a good coach who can transform the team and coach for 10+ years and give this team some needed stability.

Count Zarth
10-21-2012, 08:22 AM
You have to be seriously retarded to entertain the notion that a guy who will be 70 next September is going to come here and fix this franchise.

Did we learn nothing from hiring Romeo Crennel's old, soon-to-be-retired ass?

Reerun_KC
10-21-2012, 08:27 AM
Are you saying zero playoff wins in 14 years IS better than 5 playoff wins in 10 years?

Do you know your football or not? Martha didn't win 5 playoff games during his failed.run in kc.

He beat the raiders in 91 and Montana forced him to 2 wins 93. Other than that. Nadda damn thing was won.

KC Tattoo
10-21-2012, 08:30 AM
Can we just dig up Hank Stram? He is the only one to bring us Super Bowl glory.. Yeah lets dig up Hank and with technology available today use his DNA bring him back alive. 65 toss power trap SaveOurChiefs.com

Guru
10-21-2012, 08:43 AM
Marty can just be an interim GM/HC for this year with the understanding we are going another way for next year.

That is the most I could accept.

Predarat
10-21-2012, 08:46 AM
If you hire Marty you will also need a "Playoff Coordinator" as well.

Art Vader
10-21-2012, 08:52 AM
St. Joe FTW! lol

Brainiac
10-21-2012, 08:55 AM
You have to be seriously retarded to entertain the notion that a guy who will be 70 next September is going to come here and fix this franchise.

Did we learn nothing from hiring Romeo Crennel's old, soon-to-be-retired ass?
You completely missed the point. Fixing franchises is what Marty is a genius at, and he does it very quickly. Bill Snyder has proven pretty conclusively that it CAN be done at that age.

You have to be seriously retarded to compare Romeo Crennel to Marty Schottenheimer.

Chiefshrink
10-21-2012, 09:00 AM
Snyder is doing it even better the 2nd time around much quicker because of his rep, with an actual chance to win the Nat'l Championship because he has a legit Nat'l Championship caliber team to do it with.:clap:

Deberg_1990
10-21-2012, 09:10 AM
Marty's not coming back. He already won a professional championship.

Brainiac
10-21-2012, 09:20 AM
Do you know your football or not? Martha didn't win 5 playoff games during his failed.run in kc.

He beat the raiders in 91 and Montana forced him to 2 wins 93. Other than that. Nadda damn thing was won.
Excuse me for saying 5 when I should have said 3.

It doesn't change the fact that Schottenheimer took over a team that was far worse than the team we have right now. He immediately turned it into a team that had 9 consecutive winning seasons, making the playoffs 7 of those 9 years.

Would I have liked more playoff wins and a Super Bowl or two? Yes. Do I think a couple of those 13-3 teams choked in the playoffs? Yes. Was I infuriated when Marty chose to start Grbac over Gannon against Denver in the 1997 playoff game. Yes.

But to refer to that as a "failed run in KC" is simply retarded. The Scott Pioli regime is the failed run in KC. The Chiefs were relevant and exciting when Marty was the head coach. Today they are pathetic and completely irrelevant.

Brainiac
10-21-2012, 09:24 AM
Marty's not coming back. He already won a professional championship.
I bet if Clark Hunt fired Pioli and offered Marty a job as either head coach or GM or some type of consultant, Marty would accept it without hesitation.

Chocolate Hog
10-21-2012, 09:26 AM
Marty and bill Snyder the 2 best runner ups in football.

rageeumr
10-21-2012, 09:28 AM
Marty was on the radio here recently. He was on Kietzman's show if my memory serves me correctly. He seemed incredibly wistful about his time in KC. He said multiple times that he made a huge mistake leaving KC. Honestly sounded like he was on the verge of tears. (Also sounded like he may have had a couple of drinks before the interview)

Brainiac
10-21-2012, 09:28 AM
Marty and bill Snyder the 2 best runner ups in football.
Right now I'd take it. Being runner-up beats the hell out of having the worst record in the NFL.

Oh, and K-State would crush your beloved Huskers if they played them. Luckily for the Huskers they ran away from the Big 12.

Brainiac
10-21-2012, 09:30 AM
Marty was on the radio here recently. He was on Kietzman's show if my memory serves me correctly. He seemed incredibly wistful about his time in KC. He said multiple times that he made a huge mistake leaving KC. Honestly sounded like he was on the verge of tears. (Also sounded like he may have had a couple of drinks before the interview)
I blame that damn Tanner's waitress who seduced him. She didn't just fuck Marty. She fucked every Chiefs fan. :mad:

Chocolate Hog
10-21-2012, 09:41 AM
Right now I'd take it. Being runner-up beats the hell out of having the worst record in the NFL.

Oh, and K-State would crush your beloved Huskers if they played them. Luckily for the Huskers they ran away from the Big 12.

I would rather finish last get a good QB and hire a coach who can win a super bowl.

Probably. Nebraska isn't any good this year but Snyder's record overall against Nebraska is horrible.

Spott
10-21-2012, 11:00 AM
When you said someone else is 69, I thought you were gonna say Skip.

Rausch
10-21-2012, 11:20 AM
I loved Marty.

I grew up with Marty.

I'd never known another coach for my entire formative years.

He is, by far, the best HC we've had in 30 years. Until the day I die he will probably be my favorite at heart.

That said he wasn't THE coach. He didn't get us there. We wanted enough for him and Lamar to go to hire someone to take us to the next level.

Instead we got clowns. Clowns with huge shoes who took everything that was good about Arrowhead and ruined it while saying "but we're good people and we're trying REALLY hard."

We can't bring back Marty any more than I can make your HS girlfriend love you again...

mikey23545
10-21-2012, 11:31 AM
I loved Marty.

I grew up with Marty.

I'd never known another coach for my entire formative years.

He is, by far, the best HC we've had in 30 years. Until the day I die he will probably be my favorite at heart.

That said he wasn't THE coach. He didn't get us there. We wanted enough for him and Lamar to go to hire someone to take us to the next level.

Instead we got clowns. Clowns with huge shoes who took everything that was good about Arrowhead and ruined it while saying "but we're good people and we're trying REALLY hard."

We can't bring back Marty any more than I can make your HS girlfriend love you again...


Well, you've undoubtedly never heard stories about high school sweethearts that went their separate ways only to meet again years later and ended up marrying and finding everything they ever wanted... :p

mikey23545
10-21-2012, 11:39 AM
Seriously, though, I am old enough to have rooted for the Chiefs in Super Bowl IV. It seemed like almost immediately they went from the outhouse to the penthouse. I remember all too well the late 70's, the 1980's, all those years of having my heart ripped out Sunday after Sunday, of being humiliated to even admit I was a Chiefs fan (especially down here in Dolphin territory).

Dammit, Marty restored my faith, and I still refuse to lay blame for all those playoff failures on him. If I really thought he was incapable of winning it all, I would never want to see the man again.

But I don't. So sue me.

Rausch
10-21-2012, 11:40 AM
Well, you've undoubtedly never heard stories about high school sweethearts that went their separate ways only to meet again years later and ended up marrying and finding everything they ever wanted... :p

:spock:

Brainiac
10-21-2012, 11:49 AM
Seriously, though, I am old enough to have rooted for the Chiefs in Super Bowl IV. It seemed like almost immediately they went from the outhouse to the penthouse. I remember all too well the late 70's, the 1980's, all those years of having my heart ripped out Sunday after Sunday, of being humiliated to even admit I was a Chiefs fan (especially down here in Dolphin territory).

Dammit, Marty restored my faith, and I still refuse to lay blame for all those playoff failures on him. If I really thought he was incapable of winning it all, I would never want to see the man again.

But I don't. So sue me.

EXACTLY!

Nightfyre
10-21-2012, 08:05 PM
Guys, I've got it figured out - Hire Marty as head coach, then have him hire Al Saunders as Offensive Coordinator and give complete control of the offensive play-calling to Al.