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pr_capone
10-23-2012, 12:07 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/goodell-nfl-could-drop-pro-234556848--nfl.html

NEW YORK (AP) -- The NFL will consider dropping the Pro Bowl if the level of play doesn't improve, Commissioner Roger Goodell said Monday night.

Appearing on SiriusXM NFL Radio's ''Town Hall,'' Goodell agreed with host Michael Strahan that last January's Pro Bowl ''was embarrassing.''

''If we cannot accomplish that kind of standard (of high play), I am inclined to not play it,'' Goodell said. ''It is really tough to force competition, and after a long season, to ask those guys to go out and play at the same level they played is really tough.''

The league still would select a Pro Bowl team through voting by players, coaches and fans, because it is an honor, but ''just not play the game,'' he said.

The Pro Bowl will take place in January, a week before the Super Bowl, after the players lobbied to keep it, promising to upgrade their performances. Goodell and others were disappointed in the quality of last year's Pro Bowl, won 59-41 by the AFC and missing any semblance of hard hitting.

A Salt Weapon
10-23-2012, 12:28 AM
Wouldn't break my heart to see it disappear. Keep the selection process as a reward but skip the game. I haven't watched a pro-bowl in the last 6-8 years or so.
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pr_capone
10-23-2012, 12:29 AM
Wouldn't break my heart to see it disappear. Keep the selection process as a reward but skip the game. I haven't watched a pro-bowl in the last 6-8 years or so.
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Yup

Trophy and a vacation. Done. No reason to put anything on TV.

cdcox
10-23-2012, 12:30 AM
And not a shit was given.

KCrockaholic
10-23-2012, 12:34 AM
Have them take the pads off and make it a flag football game.

Or....Do the "competitions" they used to air on NFLN with the QB's and such running drills and earning points.

The Pro Bowl game itself is a joke. But players should still be rewarded IMO.

jd1020
10-23-2012, 12:35 AM
Fuck the NFL for shitting all over Cassels resume!

AussieChiefsFan
10-23-2012, 12:41 AM
I've actually not minded watching the pro bowl recently. Although it woudn't be that sad to see it gone. Just hope they keep the voting on players part.

Guru
10-23-2012, 12:53 AM
Please kill it.

Baconeater
10-23-2012, 12:54 AM
Haven't they "considered" this every year for the last 5 years? Put a bullet in it already.

Psyko Tek
10-23-2012, 12:58 AM
silver bullet and a stake through the heart
it ain't going anywhere

HMc
10-23-2012, 01:07 AM
Wouldn't break my heart to see it disappear. Keep the selection process as a reward but skip the game. I haven't watched a pro-bowl in the last 6-8 years or so.
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BigMeatballDave
10-23-2012, 01:08 AM
I'd like to see a skills competition.

They used to do it. What happened?

BryanBusby
10-23-2012, 01:10 AM
I would be happy if the NFL replaced the pro bowl with a skills competition.

http://somehow-someday.com/images/sa/sports/lol_joey.gif

Probably the best play Joey Harrington ever made.

A Salt Weapon
10-23-2012, 01:11 AM
I like the idea of a skills comp, replace the pro-bowl with that.
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DaneMcCloud
10-23-2012, 01:11 AM
I'd like to see a skills competition.

They used to do it. What happened?

Near death injury to Patriots running back Robert Edwards.

The guy nearly lost his leg in a pre-game festivity.

DaneMcCloud
10-23-2012, 01:13 AM
I like the idea of a skills comp, replace the pro-bowl with that.
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Agents will never allow their players to participate in such "competitions" ever again, especially QB's.

AussieChiefsFan
10-23-2012, 01:14 AM
A skills competition would be awesome.

BigMeatballDave
10-23-2012, 01:15 AM
Near death injury to Patriots running back Robert Edwards.

The guy nearly lost his leg in a pre-game festivity.Oh Shit. I forgot about that.

BigMeatballDave
10-23-2012, 01:20 AM
His knee was bent like 90' the wrong way.

Gruesome.

AussieChiefsFan
10-23-2012, 01:22 AM
His knee was bent like 90' the wrong way.

Gruesome.

I just looked it up. Oh god, feel sorry for the guy.

DaneMcCloud
10-23-2012, 01:24 AM
I just looked it up. Oh god, feel sorry for the guy.

I remember when it happened. The doctors initially thought that they would have to amputate his leg because there was so much damage to his femoral artery.

BryanBusby
10-23-2012, 01:26 AM
Oh god, I remember that now. Yeah that was nasty as hell.

AussieChiefsFan
10-23-2012, 01:26 AM
I remember when it happened. The doctors initially thought that they would have to amputate his leg because there was so much damage to his femoral artery.

wow yea. All these RBs that blow out their knees in the NFL knowadays can usually have surgery and not have too many big permanent pain/injury. Take JC, he's baclk to being a beast again. Mustve been exremely bad for Robert Edwards.

AussieChiefsFan
10-23-2012, 01:28 AM
Actually anyone remember exactly how it happened when he was playing flag football? His foot get caught on someone/thing or something?

DaneMcCloud
10-23-2012, 01:30 AM
Actually anyone remember exactly how it happened when he was playing flag football? His foot get caught on someone/thing or something?

IIRC, his foot got caught in the sand.

AussieChiefsFan
10-23-2012, 01:31 AM
IIRC, his foot got caught in the sand.

ouch, poor guy

DaneMcCloud
10-23-2012, 01:39 AM
ouch, poor guy

The best part about the story, other than the doctors saving his leg and his brief return to the NFL, is that Robert Kraft immediately said that he'd cover Edwards' rookie contract, regardless of whether or not he ever played again.

Say what you will about the Patriots but I thought that was a class move all the way.

AussieChiefsFan
10-23-2012, 01:42 AM
The best part about the story, other than the doctors saving his leg and his brief return to the NFL, is that Robert Kraft immediately said that he'd cover Edwards' rookie contract, regardless of whether or not he ever played again.

Say what you will about the Patriots but I thought that was a class move all the way.

:thumb: Good to hear

BryanBusby
10-23-2012, 01:50 AM
The best part about the story, other than the doctors saving his leg and his brief return to the NFL, is that Robert Kraft immediately said that he'd cover Edwards' rookie contract, regardless of whether or not he ever played again.

Say what you will about the Patriots but I thought that was a class move all the way.
As much as people here hate the Patriot Way, I think they'd kill to have an owner like Robert Kraft.

theelusiveeightrop
10-23-2012, 07:13 AM
Exhibition football is never exciting.

notorious
10-23-2012, 07:36 AM
WTF is the "Pro Bowl"?

Discuss Thrower
10-23-2012, 07:38 AM
If the NFL is so hellbent on putting a game in London, they should throw some loyal fans a bone in giving the military one regular season game a year.

Select a matchup closest to Veterans Day in Novemeber, put the game at Aloha Stadium, and give free or drastically reduced price tickets to active duty or retired personnel and their families for the game.

theelusiveeightrop
10-23-2012, 07:41 AM
I just looked it up. Oh god, feel sorry for the guy.

Anyone provide a link. My search has been fruitless. Please and Thank you.

Bwana
10-23-2012, 07:56 AM
Wouldn't break my heart to see it disappear. Keep the selection process as a reward but skip the game. I haven't watched a pro-bowl in the last 6-8 years or so.
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Exactly. The game itself is a complete joke and a waste of TV time. After watching last year, I will never tune in again. I'm not sure what I was watching, but it didn't have much to do with football.

Gonzo
10-23-2012, 07:58 AM
I remember watching the pro bowl as a kid and it was actually pretty good. I seem to remember one, 91 I think? Nick Lowery hit the game winner and I was actually excited.

I don't see the players ever really getting in to it again unless they have an incentive to win. Winning team gets a couple million to split amongst the players or something like that.

okoye35chiefs
10-23-2012, 07:59 AM
i used to like the skills competition as well.

Gonzo
10-23-2012, 08:01 AM
Maybe they should do a game where the best rookies go against the players coming out of college right after the draft or something. Or they can do a game before the draft with potential rookies... I'd watch the hell outta that.

Aries Walker
10-23-2012, 08:01 AM
What if they moved it to the beginning of the season? Before pre-season, like the Hall of Fame bowl. Last year's best players kick off this year's play, that sort of thing. The Super Bowl players could take part, and by then people are aching for football anyway.

InChiefsHell
10-23-2012, 08:06 AM
Skills competition, otherwise a trip to Hawaii for the players. The game is just another invitation for injury. Either that or make it flag football. The game is a waste of time.

AussieChiefsFan
10-23-2012, 08:07 AM
Actually how about bringing a game to Australia lol

One day

Woodchuck
10-23-2012, 08:08 AM
There's no need for it anymore. It would be cool if they had an All Pro team voted on by the players and coaches. Similar to the Top 100 on NFL Network. They should just cut the fans out of it imo.

AussieChiefsFan
10-23-2012, 08:10 AM
There's no need for it anymore. It would be cool if they had an All Pro team voted on by the players and coaches. Similar to the Top 100 on NFL Network. They should just cut the fans out of it imo.

Although if its voted on by players guys like ray lewis will get in each year due to everyones respect for him. Not a huge problem but I'm just sayin

Chiefnj2
10-23-2012, 08:13 AM
Each team submits 5 players to partake in a skills competition. Draft order depends on how well your team scores.

The Iron Chief
10-23-2012, 08:15 AM
Have them take the pads off and make it a flag football game.

Or....Do the "competitions" they used to air on NFLN with the QB's and such running drills and earning points.

The Pro Bowl game itself is a joke. But players should still be rewarded IMO.

This^

Just make it a fun competition instead of a joke.

I seem to remember Tony G getting hurt one yr in a catching challenge and I was like no F'en way..but then it turned out to be minor.

Sure-Oz
10-23-2012, 08:16 AM
I don't give a shit about it honestly. End it.

notorious
10-23-2012, 08:18 AM
End it, but still give out the awards.

Deberg_1990
10-23-2012, 08:19 AM
What if they moved it to the beginning of the season? Before pre-season, like the Hall of Fame bowl. Last year's best players kick off this year's play, that sort of thing. The Super Bowl players could take part, and by then people are aching for football anyway.

Never gonna happen and it if did, same results. Todays players are never going to go "all out" for a meaningless exhibition game. Also, imagine if a teams star player got hurt/out for season during the Pro Bowl a few weeks before the regular season?

loochy
10-23-2012, 08:24 AM
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Molitoth
10-23-2012, 09:08 AM
When douchebags like Cassel can back into the Pro Bowl, it shouldn't exist.

Most of the time, your Super Bowl teams are going to have a good amount of players that should be playing in the pro bowl. Just put it back to AFTER the Super Bowl.

scho63
10-23-2012, 09:46 AM
This event is the dumbest and worst of all major all-star games by a wide margin. Hockey is getting close with their 16-14 scores and no goal tending or defense but the NFL guys play games and do silly shit the whole time during the game.

I don't need this game and quite honestly who wants to watch a guy get seriously hurt in this stupid event.

Vote for the All Pro's and send them and their families to Hawaii or some nice place for a week. Film all the pro's during the week and make it an hour show. People will like it more than the stupid Pro Bowl

DaFace
10-23-2012, 10:11 AM
I think the NHL does a good job with their all star game (weekend), though scho63 is right that no one takes it seriously. It's in the middle of the season, so players are clearly not going to play all-out, and I don't think they should be expected to.

The game is really just part of a full event with (do I hear an echo in here?) a skills competition, a rookie game, and a variety of other things like that. If the NFL would just stop taking itself so seriously and make the event fun for everyone, it might be worth keeping.

Or they could just can the whole thing. That's fine too.

Rausch
10-23-2012, 10:24 AM
Exhibition football is never exciting.

This. Have an awards show or something...

Valiant
10-23-2012, 10:39 AM
Do away with probowl and honors. Have divisional skills competions by points.

Qb, wr, te, rb, ol, dt, de, lb, s, c, k, p. Best of each division goes up against another division points wise during skills test.

Winner goes on. Two days worth of tv.

Rain Man
10-23-2012, 10:51 AM
Do away with probowl and honors. Have divisional skills competions by points.

Qb, wr, te, rb, ol, dt, de, lb, s, c, k, p. Best of each division goes up against another division points wise during skills test.

Winner goes on. Two days worth of tv.


I was about to post a similar concept, but I like yours better. Stuff like this is a lot of fun to watch, as opposed to a very bad exhibition game. And I suspect that player egos would keep it competitive.

CaliforniaChief
10-23-2012, 11:02 AM
The awards show concept would be interesting, sort of like the ESPY's but in addition to naming the All-Pro's, have your coach of the year, MVP, rookie of the year, comeback player of the year, most outstanding play, etc.

Detoxing
10-23-2012, 11:04 AM
Still think it should just be a skills competition.

40 Yard Dashes, High Jumps, QB Drills...that kinda shit.

Rain Man
10-23-2012, 11:27 AM
When douchebags like Cassel can back into the Pro Bowl, it shouldn't exist.

Most of the time, your Super Bowl teams are going to have a good amount of players that should be playing in the pro bowl. Just put it back to AFTER the Super Bowl.

The other issue for owners is that, when 8 guys drop out of the pro bowl with hangnails, you end up with the Matt Cassels going. Now when it comes time to do contract negotiations, there are nine guys all claiming they were in the pro bowl.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-23-2012, 11:32 AM
Good.

HemiEd
10-23-2012, 11:34 AM
And not a fuck was given. I don't even give a darn if this is a repost, because I am not going to read a thread about the probowl.

Give each player an award and don't bother with the game.

Predarat
10-23-2012, 12:57 PM
What is the Pro Bowl?

morphius
10-23-2012, 01:08 PM
You want hard hitting, but you make them play straight up with no blitz's and I think no stunts. If you make the rules completely on the side of the offense, then how does he expect it to be a good game?

Ace Gunner
10-23-2012, 01:14 PM
"and after a long season, to ask those guys to go out and play at the same level they played is really tough.''


Ah, but Goodell is all for adding two more games to the season. asshat has two sides to mouth.

Bump
10-23-2012, 01:22 PM
Agents will never allow their players to participate in such "competitions" ever again, especially QB's.

how about a dick-swinging contest instead?

Dicky McElephant
10-23-2012, 01:27 PM
Anyone provide a link. My search has been fruitless. Please and Thank you.

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whoman69
10-23-2012, 02:08 PM
The game has always lacked something, but at least they played harder in the past. I would think none of those guys want to embarrass themselves like they did last year.

Rain Man
10-23-2012, 02:15 PM
I'd never actually seen footage of the Robert Edwards injury (Post 64). That's just about the most gruesome knee injury I've ever seen. If he was a horse they would've shot him on the spot. Such a shame.

Graystoke
10-23-2012, 02:18 PM
Still think it should just be a skills competition.

40 Yard Dashes, High Jumps, QB Drills...that kinda shit.

That is a good idea.
The Pro Bowl is just sht the way it is.

DaneMcCloud
10-23-2012, 02:23 PM
When douchebags like Cassel can back into the Pro Bowl, it shouldn't exist.

Most of the time, your Super Bowl teams are going to have a good amount of players that should be playing in the pro bowl. Just put it back to AFTER the Super Bowl.

The Pro Bowl lost all validity when they allowed the fans to vote.

The only post-season honor that's worth a shit, IMO, is an All-Pro designation.

DaneMcCloud
10-23-2012, 02:25 PM
Do away with probowl and honors. Have divisional skills competions by points.

Qb, wr, te, rb, ol, dt, de, lb, s, c, k, p. Best of each division goes up against another division points wise during skills test.

Winner goes on. Two days worth of tv.

Again, agents would never go for it. Players could be injured and teams could use those results against players come contract negotiation time.

Isn't a 16 game season with a playoff and championship game enough competition?

Dicky McElephant
10-23-2012, 02:28 PM
Just give them the honors and that's it. There's no need for any of the other bullshit.

Although I think it'd be cool to still have the ProBowl "get together" where fans can come meet the players.

Rain Man
10-23-2012, 06:49 PM
Again, agents would never go for it. Players could be injured and teams could use those results against players come contract negotiation time.

Isn't a 16 game season with a playoff and championship game enough competition?

I figure this is your conjecture and not your actual opinion, but it's still a good opportunity for me to say, "Screw the agents. The agents can go to H-E-double-toothpicks".

I'd like to see this type of competition. I would think the odds of injury in these types of events would be very low. Edwards' injury was in a flag football game and was a huge fluke (or maybe not if the sand was an issue). I'd like to see stuff like who can do the most pushups or who can bench the most or who can run a mile the fastest or who can throw the most footballs through a tire. These are things that the players would be doing anyway as part of their training.

JoeyChuckles
10-23-2012, 10:08 PM
Actually how about bringing a game to Australia lol

One day

Don't you all have Rugby?

DaneMcCloud
10-23-2012, 11:22 PM
I figure this is your conjecture and not your actual opinion, but it's still a good opportunity for me to say, "Screw the agents. The agents can go to H-E-double-toothpicks".



Actually, I am friends with a few agents (one could be considered a "Super Agent") and they've told me they'll never allow their clients to compete or participate in any type of non-paid, non-insured event for many reasons, not limited to contract negotiations/re-negotiations.

This is a contact sport that's different from baseball (Home Run Derby) or basketball (Slam Dunk competition). These guys are pushing their bodies to the break point every single day.

MOST aren't natural athletes and have to use supplements, eat 10,000 calories a day, etc. Guys try to make weight with Star Caps and diuretics. Many of these guys train year-round just to compete for a job.

There's no way that their agents, the guys that are supposed to have their backs, are going to allow them to participate in some half-assed, Made-For-TV extravaganza that pays them nothing while 2 million viewers the weekend after Easter Sunday tune in.

Bottom line: Simple economics.

DaFace
10-24-2012, 12:06 AM
This kind of makes me sad.

http://i.imgur.com/5hOS3.png

AussieChiefsFan
10-24-2012, 12:16 AM
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damn that was ugly

Bob Dole
11-27-2012, 01:21 PM
Just got the email about voting for 2013.

Submitted a lone vote.

For Mark Castle.