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pr_capone
10-23-2012, 01:02 AM
Seattle - trade dead weight in hopes that new scenery inspires them? Cassel for Flynn?

Jets - Sanchez is shaky and their OC is of Parcellian lineage. Get 6th.

Cardinals - Kolb is broken, Skelton is ok and there is no one else. Get a 6th.

Browns - Because they are stupid enough to draft a 29yr old rookie long shot in the first round. Get a 3rd.

jd1020
10-23-2012, 01:04 AM
ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

pr_capone
10-23-2012, 01:05 AM
ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

BryanBusby
10-23-2012, 01:05 AM
The Saskatchewan Roughriders

Bewbies
10-23-2012, 01:05 AM
How about GM beats off in rag and puts it in your mouth....And we keep Cassel.

AussieChiefsFan
10-23-2012, 01:06 AM
Be lucky to trade cassel to anyone

Bewbies
10-23-2012, 01:06 AM
Auburn needs help and they pay well...

BossChief
10-23-2012, 01:11 AM
We probably couldn't trade him if he was on league minimum pay.

With him due 17 million the next 2 years, we would be lucky if GODell let's us release him.

pr_capone
10-23-2012, 01:13 AM
I wonder if there is any chance that he would say... fuck it, and retire.

Guru
10-23-2012, 01:14 AM
I wonder if there is any chance that he would say... **** it, and retire.

He is NOT THAT stupid.

Phobia
10-23-2012, 01:15 AM
If Pioli trades Captain Turnover for a bag of soccer balls we're stuck with Pioli forever.

pr_capone
10-23-2012, 01:21 AM
He is NOT THAT stupid.

That "concussion" knocked him out of the NFL forever. He is tainted goods. He signs on somewhere else in 13, and barring injury, doesn't make their 53 man roster.

FAX
10-23-2012, 05:08 AM
St. Louis zoo?

"And here, ladies and gentlemen, is our Cassel enclosure where you can observe first hand the rare and increasingly endangered game manager quarterback captain as he works tremendously hard for no reason."

FAX

AussieChiefsFan
10-23-2012, 05:12 AM
LMAO

ChiefsNow
10-23-2012, 05:25 AM
It would be cool, we get him benched and still get a worthwhile trade out of him.

AussieChiefsFan
10-23-2012, 05:36 AM
It would be cool, we get him benched and still get a worthwhile trade out of him.

Would be nice, but doubt it.

Bewbies
10-23-2012, 06:33 AM
Any GM that wants to acquire Matt Cassel should be fired on the spot. That includes drafting him, or watching him suck for years in person and then trading for him to be your guy...

Woodchuck
10-23-2012, 06:35 AM
If anyone wanted Cassel, I think it would be a contender. Maybe the Jets or Cards? Someone like that. No crappy team is going to trade for him.

kepp
10-23-2012, 06:45 AM
St. Louis zoo?

"And here, ladies and gentlemen, is our Cassel enclosure where you can observe first hand the rare and increasingly endangered game manager quarterback captain as he works tremendously hard for no reason."

FAX

...as he throws his Chiefs hat at the bratty kid tapping on the glass wall...

theelusiveeightrop
10-23-2012, 06:46 AM
Hard to fathom a GM stupid enough to trade for Cassell. Just takes one however. After all, there was one GM stupid enough to sign him for 63 mil. America is great.

KC_Lee
10-23-2012, 06:51 AM
Auburn needs help and they pay well...

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Art Vader
10-23-2012, 06:51 AM
ROFL ROFL ROFL

Pestilence
10-23-2012, 07:09 AM
Jags

WV
10-23-2012, 07:14 AM
You know peeholy is sitting by his phone scanning his office for candy wrappers and fully expecting a flood of calls for his boy. KC has to be the issue, afterall he was great in NE. :)

Sure-Oz
10-23-2012, 07:17 AM
The guy will be a decent backup signing. zero value

Molitoth
10-23-2012, 08:09 AM
St. Louis zoo?

"And here, ladies and gentlemen, is our Cassel enclosure where you can observe first hand the rare and increasingly endangered game manager quarterback captain as he works tremendously hard for no reason."

FAX

OH MY GOD.

ROFL LMAO

scho63
10-23-2012, 08:23 AM
We will certainly try and trade him to someone dumber than Pioli-if that's even possible.

If not, he will be waived and we owe him nothing next year and a very small salary cap hit. We took the brunt of the SC hit on the front end

Woodchuck
10-23-2012, 08:23 AM
I definately think we could get something for him if we really try and trade him. The guy has had two winning seasons out of four. He has sucked worse than ever but back up QBs who have won that many games are rare. We could at least get a 7th.

thabear04
10-23-2012, 09:04 AM
Maybe he can back up Cam with the Panthers.

Frosty
10-23-2012, 09:13 AM
Jags

Yeah, Jags and Cardinals are the only real, albeit miniscule, possibilities.

KChiefer
10-23-2012, 09:17 AM
If we fire Piollllli and he somehow lands a job next year, he could fleece us by offering a 3rd rd pick. That's our only hope.

Rausch
10-23-2012, 09:24 AM
Yeah, Jags and Cardinals are the only real, albeit miniscule, possibilities.

No one would give us a thing for this POS...

htismaqe
10-23-2012, 09:27 AM
Nobody is going to trade for Cassel.

htismaqe
10-23-2012, 09:28 AM
No one would give us a thing for this POS...

Especially considering that they'd have to pay him north of $15M for the next 2 years.

SNR
10-23-2012, 09:30 AM
Pioli can keep his job if he flies to Boston, incapacitates Belichick, and physically abuses him with his penis until Belichick agrees to take Cassel back in exchange for Brady and a 1st round pick.

the Talking Can
10-23-2012, 09:32 AM
Scott: "Hey, we're looking to unload Cassel...we'll take pretty much anything"

Scott: "hmmm, he's the 32nd ranked QB in the league...we couldn't go higher than a 4th"

Scott: "[!!!!!]wow...um...well...we were hoping for more but I'll take it...deal"

Scott: "Great, that was easy"

Scott: "Yup, enjoyed negotiating with you...it's like how I imagine it in my dreams"

Scott: "Weird...you sound familiar"

Scott: "hmm...yeah, you do too...wait"

Scott: "Scott?"

Scott: "shit...[hangs up]"

Pestilence
10-23-2012, 09:32 AM
No one would give us a thing for this POS...

I don't want to trade him.....I just want him to go there.

Sorter
10-23-2012, 09:34 AM
If Asante Samuel, an actually productive player, goes for only a 7th, then I can't imagine that Cassel will net us anything.

I think AZ would rather start Lindley than Cassel. Jags might bite for a 7th if Henne is an abomination but I doubt it.

Rain Man
10-23-2012, 09:37 AM
How I hope the conversation goes.


(Ring, ring.)

Pioli: Hello?

Other GM: Hi, Scott, this is -

Pioli: You have a deal! Cassel will be on the next plane!

Bane
10-23-2012, 09:39 AM
Any GM that would even think about trading for Casshole should be terminated yesterday.

Sorter
10-23-2012, 09:40 AM
How I hope the conversation goes.


(Ring, ring.)

Other GM: Hello?

Pioli: Hi, this is Scott Pioli and I wanted to see if you were interested in Matt Cas -

Other GM: *click*

Pioli: Hello?


FYP

Douche Baggins
10-23-2012, 09:40 AM
Bills.

kaplin42
10-23-2012, 09:46 AM
Be lucky to trade cassel to anyone

This is how the trade would go.

We give:

Cassel
Cover his salary and bonus for the next two years.
3rd round draft pick

They give:

Not one fuck.

Chief Roundup
10-23-2012, 09:51 AM
No one would give a bag of dog shit for Cassel.

DaWolf
10-23-2012, 11:19 AM
The Chiefs should probably do what the Donx did last year and cut Cassel in a few weeks. Go with two QB's and if Quinn gets hurt or continues to suck, ride out the rest of the season with Stanzi and see what he can do. Leave no questions for next year. The only downside is that you have a GM and a coach who are fighting for their jobs, not the No 1 draft pick, so that scenario won't happen...

bevischief
10-23-2012, 12:01 PM
To a gay whore house maybe.

whoman69
10-23-2012, 01:11 PM
Nobody is going to trade for Cassel expecting him to be their starter. The trade market for a backup QB can't be that much.

ndws
10-23-2012, 01:47 PM
trade him to SD for clipboard Jesus. They have enough former Chiefs on the offensive side, why not one more?

CoMoChief
10-23-2012, 02:32 PM
Bills.

I doubt Gailey wants any part of that mess.

DBOSHO
10-23-2012, 02:38 PM
How pissed would Bowe be if he got his wish and was traded, only to have cassel traded to that same team

Woodchuck
10-23-2012, 02:54 PM
I doubt Gailey wants any part of that mess.

He's a lame duck coach and they aren't trading for Cassel imo.

Flachief58
10-23-2012, 03:03 PM
Casshole is going to ride off into the sunset with the cash he stole from Kansas City by licking Pussholy's taint. Noone is stupid enough to offer him a glass of piss if he were dying of thirst

Flachief58
10-23-2012, 03:04 PM
How pissed would Bowe be if he got his wish and was traded, only to have cassel traded to that same team

ROFL

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PGM
10-23-2012, 03:05 PM
Cassel to the Jets would be EPIC

Molitoth
10-23-2012, 04:35 PM
Cassel to the Jets would be EPIC

I actually may feel sorry for Cassel's family at that point.

NY would rip him a third asshole.


Then again, the nation would finally feel our pain and stop labeling him as a "pro bowl QB".

HMc
10-23-2012, 07:46 PM
How pissed would Bowe be if he got his wish and was traded, only to have cassel traded to that same team

and they hire pioli as a consultant

RustShack
10-23-2012, 08:00 PM
Trade him back to the Patriots and McDaniels?

Chief_For_Life58
10-23-2012, 08:01 PM
is this spost to be some kind of sick joke thread?

JoeyChuckles
10-23-2012, 09:10 PM
I hear there's good money in Alabama real estate.

Setsuna
10-23-2012, 09:39 PM
Jags

Fuck you.

listopencil
10-23-2012, 11:06 PM
Especially considering that they'd have to pay him north of $15M for the next 2 years.


What exactly is his contract breakdown? I mean, how much has he already been paid (by year) and how much is he contracted for (by the year) still?

listopencil
10-23-2012, 11:10 PM
I'm wondering because Manning got 18, 20, 20, 19 and 19. Only that first 18 is guaranteed. Pending a physical next year, the 20's becomes guaranteed.

FAX
10-23-2012, 11:11 PM
How pissed would Bowe be if he got his wish and was traded, only to have cassel traded to that same team

ROFL

I'd say ... pretty pissed.

FAX

Chief_For_Life58
10-23-2012, 11:12 PM
I'm wondering because Manning got 18, 20, 20, 19 and 19. Only that first 18 is guaranteed. Pending a physical next year, the 20's becomes guaranteed.

its too much math for your little simple denver brain to handle

FAX
10-23-2012, 11:17 PM
its too much math for your little simple denver brain to handle

One should never laugh at or deride the handicapped, Mr. Chief_For_Life58.

Besides, Mr. listopencil doesn't have a little, simple, denver brain. He has a giant melon brain that was merely overheated when his nanny stuffed him in the oven for a couple of hours while she went out to sell her underarm hair to the local sweater shop.

FAX

listopencil
10-23-2012, 11:18 PM
Help me out if I'm wrong here. In July of 2009 he signs a six year deal. It's worth $63 MIL with $28 MIL guaranteed. So you can say $10.5 per year. He was paid $40.5 MIL for 2009, 2010 and 2011 (I assume) to cover the guaranteed part of the contract. That leaves $22.5 MIL over the next three years that KC is contracted to pay him, but they can still cut him with little to no penalty because they have already paid out his guaranteed money. Right?

listopencil
10-23-2012, 11:18 PM
its too much math for your little simple denver brain to handle

You're a dumbass.

listopencil
10-23-2012, 11:19 PM
One should never laugh at or deride the handicapped, Mr. Chief_For_Life58.

Besides, Mr. listopencil doesn't have a little, simple, denver brain. He has a giant melon brain that was merely overheated when his nanny stuffed him in the oven for a couple of hours while she went out to sell her underarm hair to the local sweater shop.

FAX

That's better. At least it took some effort on your part.

FAX
10-23-2012, 11:20 PM
Help me out if I'm wrong here. In July of 2009 he signs a six year deal. It's worth $63 MIL with $28 MIL guaranteed. So you can say $10.5 per year. He was paid $40.5 MIL for 2009, 2010 and 2011 (I assume) to cover the guaranteed part of the contract. That leaves $22.5 MIL over the next three years that KC is contracted to pay him, but they can still cut him with little to no penalty because they have already paid out his guaranteed money. Right?

I think that's right. Although, part of the additional monies were in the form of a roster bonus that was paid in 2011, if I'm not mistaken. So, I'm not sure if he's owed as much as 7m per year at this point ...

FAX

FAX
10-23-2012, 11:22 PM
That's better. At least it took some effort on your part.

I wouldn't say "effort", Mr. listopencil ... I just copied and pasted that from an Orange Mane post.

FAX

listopencil
10-23-2012, 11:24 PM
I think that's right. Although, part of the additional monies were in the form of a roster bonus that was paid in 2011, if I'm not mistaken. So, I'm not sure if he's owed as much as 7m per year at this point ...

FAX

OK, and his cap hit is still 10.5 per.

listopencil
10-23-2012, 11:25 PM
I wouldn't say "effort", Mr. listopencil ... I just copied and pasted that from an Orange Mane post.

FAX


You shouldn't go there. I don't. Haven't been in well over a year.

FAX
10-23-2012, 11:25 PM
OK, and his cap hit is still 10.5 per.

Ah ... the balance of the contract plus the guaranteed amortized over the life of the deal, right?

FAX

FAX
10-23-2012, 11:26 PM
You shouldn't go there. I don't. Haven't been in well over a year.

Actually, I've never been there. I kinda made that up.

To tell the truth, the little man who lives in my thumb dictated that post to me.

FAX

listopencil
10-23-2012, 11:29 PM
Ah ... the balance of the contract plus the guaranteed amortized over the life of the deal, right?

FAX

I think the cap hit is laid out when the contract is signed. $63 MIL over six years is 10.5 per regardless of how much he is actually paid during each season. It changes if guys get cut with guaranteed money left on the tab or, of course, if they restructure. It's been a while since I looked at the rules though.

htismaqe
10-24-2012, 06:15 AM
I think the cap hit is laid out when the contract is signed. $63 MIL over six years is 10.5 per regardless of how much he is actually paid during each season. It changes if guys get cut with guaranteed money left on the tab or, of course, if they restructure. It's been a while since I looked at the rules though.

Only the signing bonus is prorated over the life of the contract.

The cap hit for any given year = base salary for THAT year + any current, applicable bonuses (roster, participation, etc.) + prorated portion of signing bonus.

EDIT: In other words, the chances of someone trading for Cassel is less than zero because he's hitting the two highest base salary years of his contract.

el borracho
10-24-2012, 07:45 AM
Should have traded him after his "pro bowl" season. Might have gotten a 4th, then. Now he has no trade value. At all.

theelusiveeightrop
10-24-2012, 07:46 AM
Should have traded him after his "pro bowl" season. Might have gotten a 4th, then. Now he has no trade value. At all.

Pro Bowl. Priceless.

KC Tattoo
10-24-2012, 09:01 AM
How about HELL? I mean I'd rather trade his soul to the debil for the guarantee at taking a #1QB in the draft than my own. So I think Hell would be a good suiter.


If I could think of a loop hole to get out of it I'd do it myself, but for right now I'd like to keep my soul in hopes to go to heaven. However come towards the end of my time and we not win a Super Bowl maybe there would be more consideration. I'd sell my brothers soul to the debil for a Super Bowl but he is a raitard fan so he is already going to Hell.

listopencil
10-24-2012, 09:06 AM
Only the signing bonus is prorated over the life of the contract.

The cap hit for any given year = base salary for THAT year + any current, applicable bonuses (roster, participation, etc.) + prorated portion of signing bonus.

EDIT: In other words, the chances of someone trading for Cassel is less than zero because he's hitting the two highest base salary years of his contract.

OK that makes sense. I had forgotten about signing bonuses, and the article I read didn't mention one.

MahiMike
10-24-2012, 09:59 AM
Cassel will go to a playoff team in need of a good backup (which he is). He'll end up with a SB ring before our team.

Same crap happened w/Jags and Brunell and Leftwich.

GoChiefz
10-24-2012, 10:57 AM
Trade for Tebow

KCBOSS1
10-24-2012, 01:22 PM
New England... They still have confidence in Cassel.. Get Mallett strait up. Draft Wilson.... let the hillbillies battle it out for the starting spot.

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-24-2012, 01:30 PM
The Retardian and King will trade thier Sean Cassidy-style, teen-love posters of Matt Cassel to have Matt come to thier houses and wash thier cars.

Woodchuck
10-24-2012, 01:38 PM
New England... They still have confidence in Cassel.. Get Mallett strait up. Draft Wilson.... let the hillbillies battle it out for the starting spot.

That would be awesome but, I think we'd have to give a draft pick along with Cassel.

BourbonMan
10-24-2012, 01:44 PM
New England... They still have confidence in Cassel.. Get Mallett strait up. Draft Wilson.... let the hillbillies battle it out for the starting spot.

THIS!!!!

Sweet Daddy Hate
10-24-2012, 01:45 PM
New England wouldn't take a crate of bananas for that shit-stick. Get real.

dedicatedfan
10-24-2012, 01:52 PM
LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOIf Pioli trades Captain Turnover for a bag of soccer balls we're stuck with Pioli forever.

Joe Seahawk
10-24-2012, 07:15 PM
Cassel for Flynn? ROFL ROFL

How about Bowe for Flynn and a 3rd.

whoman69
10-24-2012, 07:46 PM
Only the signing bonus is prorated over the life of the contract.

The cap hit for any given year = base salary for THAT year + any current, applicable bonuses (roster, participation, etc.) + prorated portion of signing bonus.

EDIT: In other words, the chances of someone trading for Cassel is less than zero because he's hitting the two highest base salary years of his contract.

This site says his most expensive years were 2009-2011. This year and next year are the cheapest while 2014 is a year with a higher cap hit.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/matt-cassel/

He's still too expensive for a team not trading for a starter. I can't see any team in the league interested in that.